On Oct 29, 2004, at 4:43 PM, Paul Russell wrote:

Guys,

On 26 Oct 2004, at 09:02, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
On Oct 26, 2004, at 3:27 AM, Matthieu Riou wrote:
Very practically, what is the conclusion of this discussion ? :)
Not sure if one is required. I don't think solving the TLP problem is a good idea now because we're going to learn a lot more as time goes on. I'm optimistic that we'll go that way at the end, but lets decide that later. If we have enough size and strength to be a TLP, we do it. If not, we don't. Until then, lets try and build some really great software and a great community.
I do think that working to have BPEL implementation at the ASF is a great idea, and while I'm 100% committed to seeing it a part of Agila, it doesn't have to only be in Agila. For example, we could have a BPEL engine as part of the project that can be used standalone or inside Agila.

Indeed! I might have missed some mails on this (personal infrastructure problems -- was dropping lots of mails the beginning half of this week), so forgive me if I'm covering old ground, but I'd advocate a 'test and learn' approach here -- Why don't we incubate the two projects separately for a while. It'll become obvious if they should be merged or not, and I can't see any reason why merging two projects in the incubator would be a problem?


Does that seem reasonable, or am I being dumb?

I'd do it the other way :) We'd have better strength in numbers as a community, and we don't have to glom the codebases together, so neither identity is "lost" to the other. We can always split later....


geir


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