I proposed to combine Twister into Agila to avoid overlapping. I thought the main goal of Agila was to develop a BPEL engine. Now if you think it's more appropriate, I wouldn't mind contributing Twister as itself.
A workflow engine and a web service orchestration engine have a bit of overlap but are usually used in different use cases, architecture and offer different features. So if Agila is meant as a workflow engine more than a web service orchestration solution, it may make sense to have two separate projects. What do everybody else think? Geir? On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 18:59:31 +0900, íìì Uijin Hong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is another '+1' for having a BPEL engine inside Apache domain. > BTW, is it legitimately possible to combine Twister(which is not > proposed and review by Apache PMC) into Agila? > How about proposing contribution of Twsiter as itself? > > On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:24:23 -0500, Aleksander Slominski > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: > > > > >+1 for merging in BPEL support using Twister. > > > > > >Geir, I'd like to understand the BPEL plans for Agila a bit > > >more. I'm a co-author of the BPEL spec and have done an impl > > >of it in IBM (BPWS4J- which was released via alphaworks a while > > >back). My intuition is that a solid impl of BPEL needs to work > > >very closely with the Web service layer. AFAIK there hasn't been > > >that kind of interaction between Agila and the Axis community > > >yet. Dims and I can easily support/facilitate that! > > > > > >Matthieu- how does Twister do its SOAP, WSDL etc. stuff? Do > > >you support non-SOAP bindings? (BPWS4J used WSIF, for example.) > > > > > > > > i think Mathieu is already aware of this but current WSIF needs upgrade ... > > http://smartcomps.kgbinternet.com/confluence/display/twister/2004/08/13/WSIF+and+adding+bindings+to+WSDL > > > > alek > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Geir Magnusson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 7:20 PM > > >Subject: Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>This is great. We're really interested in getting BPEL into Agila. > > >>I'll take a look. > > >> > > >>We originally decided to not go w/ BPEL as the core language, as we > > >>wanted to support all kinds of activities in a workflow, being able to > > >>make a workflow that mixes them. So it was planned that we'd get BPEL > > >>support, and allow you to incorporate BPEL into a regular Agila > > >>workflow using a namespace or something. Of course, we can decide if > > >>we want to change that plan here, but I think there are some compelling > > >>arguments for that kind of approach... > > >> > > >>geir > > >> > > >>On Oct 20, 2004, at 5:52 AM, Matthieu Riou wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>Hello, > > >>> > > >>>I'm the project leader of Twister, an open source WS-BPEL engine. More > > >>>can be found about Twister here: > > >>> > > >>>http://www.smartcomps.org/twister > > >>> > > >>>I'm sending this e-mail to suggest a donation of Twister to the Apache > > >>>Group and a merge with the incubated Apache Agila project. I believe > > >>>that Twister and the Gluecode engine could be assembled to a better > > >>>solution, using the strengths of both implementations. This would also > > >>>be beneficial for the BPM Open Source community and would bring more > > >>>users and contributors to Agila. > > >>> > > >>>Regards, > > >>> > > >>>Matthieu Riou > > >>> > > >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>-- > > >>Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437 > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > > >> > > >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > The best way to predict the future is to invent it - Alan Kay > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -- > Uijin Hong (íìì) > http://runeconsulting.com/heartbit/ > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
