Re: [VOTE] Accept RocketMQ into the Apache Incubator

2016-11-10 Thread Rob Davies
+1 (non-binding) > On 10 Nov 2016, at 16:41, Bruce Snyder wrote: > > Subsequent to the discussion on RocketMQ, I would like to call a vote on > accepting RocketMQ into the Apache Incubator. > > [ ] +1 Accept RocketMQ into the Apache Incubator > [ ] +0 Abstain. > [ ] -1 Do not accept RocketMQ in

Re: Post mortem request for the handling of the Corinthia podling (was Re: FYI, I have subscribed to this list and to your private list)

2016-01-18 Thread Rob Vesse
PMC status and if they were to be granted committer status then the ASF requires they have a ICLA on file Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [VOTE] Accept Milagro into the Incubator

2015-12-15 Thread Rob Vesse
+1 (binding) Good luck Rob On 15/12/2015 08:56, "Nick Kew" wrote: >I should like to call a vote to accept Milagro into >the Incubator. The full proposal is available at >https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MilagroProposal >as well as below. > >Note that the proj

Re: Websites at podling.apache.org

2015-12-01 Thread Rob Vesse
Niall Thanks for digging up the reference I knew INFRA had made the change for a reason but couldn't remember the reasoning Rob On 01/12/2015 16:18, "Niall Pemberton" wrote: >On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 4:46 AM, Marvin Humphrey >wrote: > >> Greets, >> &

Re: Websites at podling.apache.org

2015-12-01 Thread Rob Vesse
mer etc I don't see that the IPMC necessarily needs to continue enforcing the subdomain requirement? Rob On 01/12/2015 07:21, "Sergio Fernández" wrote: >They used to have a redirects. But you' re right, looks like not >anymore... >So we should ask INFRA to get a 307

Re: [VOTE] Accept Kudu into the Apache Incubator

2015-11-25 Thread Rob Vesse
+1 (binding) Rob On 24/11/2015 19:32, "Todd Lipcon" wrote: >Hi all, > >Discussion on the [DISCUSS] thread seems to have wound down, so I'd like >to >call a VOTE on acceptance of Kudu into the ASF Incubator. The proposal is >pasted below and also

Re: [VOTE] Accept S2Graph into Apache Incubation

2015-11-24 Thread Rob Vesse
+1 (binding) Good luck Rob On 24/11/2015 00:53, "Hyunsik Choi" wrote: >Hello folks, > >Thanks for all the feedback on the S2Graph Proposal. > >I would like to call for a [VOTE] on S2Graph joining the ASF as an >incubation project. > >The vote is open for a

Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)

2015-11-17 Thread Rob Vesse
the project e.g. ./pr-stats apache hadoop Fairly basic tool but should give you enough to gauge where things are Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e

Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)

2015-11-17 Thread Rob Vesse
re is room for them at the ASF. Probably the key takeaway from this thread should be that we should trust podlings (and TLPs) to have the RTC vs CTR debate within their own communities and allow them to decide what works best for them as a community without an outside body like the Incubator mandati

Re: IP clearance for properly licensed code

2015-11-09 Thread Rob Vesse
any external code incorporated into the code base needs to be under Apache compatible licenses and appropriately attributed Rob On 09/11/2015 18:11, "Todd Lipcon" wrote: >Hi all, > >Another hopefully simple question: > >The Mentor guide contains the following text: > &

Re: CommonsRDF petering out

2015-11-03 Thread Rob Vesse
lder on this very note which I really should get around to sending Thanks for reminding me, Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Should Apache VOTEs be in a first-come, first-serve queue?

2015-09-15 Thread Rob Vesse
plex approval process that can take 2-3 months in order to get the legal approval just to release products that happen to depend on open source code (let alone open source our own code). Compared to that experience I'll happily take the Apache release vote proce

Re: [VOTE] Accept Rya into the Apache Incubator

2015-09-14 Thread Rob Vesse
+1 On 14/09/2015 16:17, "Adam Fuchs" wrote: >Thanks again for the healthy discussion on Rya. With that, I would like to >call a VOTE for accepting Rya as a new incubator project. > >The proposal text is included below, and is posted on the wiki here: >https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RyaProposa

Re: [DISCUSS] Rya Incubator Proposal

2015-09-07 Thread Rob Vesse
es at rdf4j.org (though I'll admit to not understanding what I'm supposed to call it anymore either!) Similarly the documentation section mentions papers but doesn't provide links, while both can be found online easily enough it would be nice to add the links in Regards, Rob On 03/0

Re: ODF Toolkit may need help

2015-09-03 Thread Rob Weir
the (albeit small) community. They would probably just set up on github and continue with the same pace of activity, with a lighterweight process, outside of Apache. So, personally, I don't think the Attic would be the death of the ODF Toolkit. Regards, -Rob -

Re: Shepherd notes for ODF Toolkit

2015-09-03 Thread Rob Weir
On Wednesday, September 2, 2015, John D. Ament wrote: > All, > > I'm adding some shepherd notes for ODF Toolkit. I think my main concern is > lack of mentor participation on the project. Rob Weir (I swear every time > I type his name I type the d) has taken a mentor role

Re: [DISCUSS] Apex Incubation Proposal

2015-08-12 Thread Rob Vesse
se I see no reason not to allow them that and there are other precedents for that (e.g. Apache Commons) Rob On 11/08/2015 18:03, "Chris Nauroth" wrote: >One thing to consider is that release version numbers are tied to specific >JIRA projects. If the intention is for Apex and

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Ignite from the Incubator

2015-07-30 Thread Rob Vesse
+1 (binding) Rob On 28/07/2015 21:03, "Konstantin Boudnik" wrote: >Following discussions [1],[2] about its current status, the Ignite >community >has voted [3] to graduate from the Incubator. The vote passed [4] with 14 >(non-binding) +1s: > > 1. Yakov Zhdan

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Brooklyn 0.7.0-incubating [rc1]

2015-07-22 Thread Rob Vesse
making a new major release and don't need to provide backwards compatibility we are finally updating package names to be org.apache.jena based Rob On 22/07/2015 15:21, "Cédric Champeau" wrote: >> * renaming of packages from brooklyn.* to org.apache.brooklyn.* will be >&

Re: [DISCUSS] Communicating intent around non-release, downstream integration binary artifacts

2015-06-25 Thread Rob Vesse
iately distinguish them from ASF actions and releases. However if individuals start publishing stuff to popular public central repository services then clearly there is a danger of confusion as to the source of the package(s). Rob > >Markus > >

Re: [DISCUSS] Communicating intent around non-release, downstream integration binary artifacts

2015-06-24 Thread Rob Vesse
and report a bug which we then want to ask them to test a fix for then they are clearly in the developer category (or more accurately they are a contributor) and I would have no problem to pointing them to the nightly builds so they could do this. However putting stuff out there on an exter

Re: Serveral legal question about donating project to Apache?

2015-06-18 Thread Rob Vesse
ong to ASF or still be our company? > > The ASF owns the copyright for the collective work Individual contributors retain copyright to their individual contributions (note that contributions are not necessarily just code), through Clause 2 Grant of Copyright License of the Apache License 2

Can we teach brand management/vendor neutrality better?

2015-05-26 Thread Rob Vesse
ings when they get it wrong is the best we can do in this area but I'd love to know if people have any ideas of how we could do this better? Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Question about Apache's voting procedures

2015-05-13 Thread Rob Vesse
SE-2.0) includes explicit terms for this in Clause 2 Essentially in non-lawyer speak: - Contributors retain the copyright to their contribution - Contributors grant a copyright license to all downstream users of their contributions that permits redistribution, modificati

Re: Helping Neo4j Release an Apache2 API for Apache Projects

2015-04-30 Thread Rob Vesse
plementation as part of the core? Is this not favouring one vendor over another? If Neo4j provides the implementation they can do so under whatever license terms they prefer and Apache Tinkerpop does not have to worry about this Rob

Re: [VOTE] Accept Geode into the Apache Incubator

2015-04-20 Thread Rob Vesse
+1 (binding) Rob On 19/04/2015 22:46, "Roman Shaposhnik" wrote: >Following the discussion earlier in the thread: > http://s.apache.org/Oxt > >I would like to call a VOTE for accepting Geode >as a new incubator project. > >The proposal is available at: >

Re: [VOTE] Accept Groovy into the Apache Incubator

2015-03-19 Thread Rob Vesse
+1 (binding) Rob On 19/03/2015 08:20, "Benedikt Ritter" wrote: >+1 non-binding > >2015-03-19 9:07 GMT+01:00 Romain Manni-Bucau : > >> +1 >> Le 19 mars 2015 09:07, "Ashish" a écrit : >> >> > +1 non-binding >> &g

Re: [VOTE] Accept CommonsRDF into the Apache Incubator

2015-03-02 Thread Rob Vesse
+1 Rob On 27/02/2015 19:19, "Lewis John Mcgibbney" wrote: >Hi general@, > >Over the last while a number of individuals have been putting together a >proposal and gathering interest in proposing Commons RDF for acceptance >into the Apache Incubator. Having worked our

Re: [VOTE] Accept Myriad into the Apache Incubator

2015-02-23 Thread Rob Vesse
+1 (binding) Rob On 22/02/2015 05:34, "Adam Bordelon" wrote: >Hello friends, > >After receiving a positive response on the discussion thread, and even a >new Mentor (Luciano), I would like to call a VOTE to accept Myriad into >the >Apache Incubator. I will end the

Re: [DISCUSS] Commons RDF to join the Apache Incubator

2015-02-11 Thread Rob Vesse
ularly want to) and thus would only want to be a mentor. As you said this would probably be a relatively easy mentoring gig with most of the effort being around just keeping an eye on the community to sign off and comment on reports and to review release as and when they come around. Rob On 10

Re: Draft Report February 2015 - please review

2015-02-10 Thread Rob Vesse
-1 then that should be treated as a veto and you need to go back to the drawing board and/or discuss further until their concerns are addressed and the -1 is withdrawn http://apache.org/foundation/voting.html#votes-on-code-modification If your community is small then hopefully it should be easy to re

Re: CCLA's and SGA's

2015-02-09 Thread Rob Vesse
originally developed then in one previous case I've seen it be agreed that an SGA was unnecessary. For example see this legal-discuss thread: http://s.apache.org/YPe Rob On 08/02/2015 18:10, "Roman Shaposhnik" wrote: >On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 6:09 PM, John D. Ament >wrote: >>

Re: Podling Name Searches

2015-01-26 Thread Rob Vesse
lings case? Rob On 25/01/2015 06:45, "Branko Čibej" wrote: >On 25.01.2015 14:08, John D. Ament wrote: >> All, >> >> If a podling had its name and codebase donated from a company, which had >> already secured rights to the name, > >The term "sec

Re: Incubating with Apache Commons as champion?

2015-01-20 Thread Rob Vesse
er time so that the project they are charged with managing does not stagnate. It's worth remembering that the Incubator itself does not provide much in the way of help in terms of growing communities since that is something that really only the incubating projects themselves can do. Rob On 2

Re: Incubating with Apache Commons as champion?

2015-01-20 Thread Rob Vesse
rface module that will remain stable what does it gain (other than brand association) by coming to the ASF? Rob On 20/01/2015 14:28, "Stian Soiland-Reyes" wrote: >The discussion on dev@commons about coming-to-Apache Commons-RDF >(https://github.com/commons-rdf/commons-rdf/) se

When is an ICLA needed?

2015-01-20 Thread Rob Vesse
the list to remind them about this regardless. I've seen that there are several people who've made considerable sustained contributions which in any other ASF project I've been involved in would have earned them sufficient merit to be offer

Re: [Proposal] TinkerPop: A Graph Computing Framework

2014-12-18 Thread Rob Vesse
o gracefully migrate users to the new infrastructure by giving them plenty of notice and information about what was happening and this didn't require huge amounts of effort on our part. Rob On 18/12/2014 16:36, "Daniel Gruno" wrote: > >On 2014-12-18 17:28, Sam Ruby wrote: &

Re: [VOTE] accept corinthia into incubator

2014-12-04 Thread Rob Weir
ng > of developers, testers, and people who know the standards in depth. > That sounds about right. I think that attracting more users of the code could help with this as well. Regards, -Rob . . . > The project is aware that this is w

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Argus Proposal

2014-07-15 Thread Rob Vesse
help bootstrap the community? Rob On 15/07/2014 03:16, "Selvamohan Neethiraj" wrote: >Apache Argus Proposal (http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ArgusProposal) > >== Abstract == > >Argus is a framework to enable, monitor and manage comprehensive data >security across the

Re: Wiki Access

2014-07-09 Thread Rob Weir
o I am able to fill in the Apache ODF > Toolkit project podling report? > Anyone? Thanks! -Rob > Thanks, > Svante > > 1. https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/July2014 > > > - > To unsubscribe

Re: [DISCUSS] Incubator exit criteria

2014-07-09 Thread Rob Vesse
hat would be much more murky as to who they are acting for and may indeed have legal implications for the ASF Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ODF Toolkit 0.6.1-incubating

2014-06-25 Thread Rob Weir
ere: http://markmail.org/message/yuentl3tzc3o3i3v Regards, -Rob > Only there was a release announcement about 3 weeks ago for > 0.6.1-incubating: > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-odf-dev/201406.mbox/%3CCAP-ksogYbfCPx%2B7cfp6GEM%2BkOXa-xeT3rE6cd

Re: [DISCUSS] Incubator exit criteria

2014-06-24 Thread Rob Weir
required a lot of bug fixing before it was ready for GA. 3) The SGA'ed code had a good number of copyleft dependencies that had to be replaced, as well as other unique things (at the time) that required review on legal-discuss. 4) Our priority (even over a rel

Re: [VOTE][RESULTS] Release Apache ODF Toolkit 0.6.1-incubating

2014-05-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> No other votes were received so the release is approved. > > Congratulations, and many thanks to the Apache ODF Toolkit podling for > sticking it out throug

[VOTE][RESULTS] Release Apache ODF Toolkit 0.6.1-incubating

2014-05-29 Thread Rob Weir
Including the earlier PPMC phase of the vote (noted in the release manifest [1]) we have a total of 4 binding votes: +1 PPMC Oliver Rau (olira) +1 IPMC/PPMC Rob Weir (robweir) +1 PPMC Svante Schubert (svanteschubert) +1 IPMC Justin Mclean (jmclean) No other votes were received so the release is

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] IP Clearance for Apache Jena Hadoop RDF Tools donation from Cray

2014-05-27 Thread Rob Vesse
With no objections the vote passes by lazy consensus Thanks, Rob On 22/05/2014 12:12, "Rob Vesse" wrote: >Cray is proposing to donate a set of libraries called Hadoop RDF Tools to >the Apache Jena project - the details of the code base can be viewed at >https://issues.apa

[VOTE] IP Clearance for Apache Jena Hadoop RDF Tools donation from Cray

2014-05-22 Thread Rob Vesse
applies. If no -1 votes are cast within the next 72 hours, the vote passes. Thanks, Rob

[VOTE] Release Apache ODF Toolkit 0.6.1-incubating

2014-05-21 Thread Rob Weir
RC4 for the ODF Toolkit 0.6.1-incubating release is available at: http://people.apache.org/~robweir/odftoolkit-release/odftoolkit-0.6.1-incubating/ The release candidate is a zip archive of the sources in: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/odf/tags/odftoolkit-0.6.1-incubating-RC4/ We'r

[Proposal] Add me as Mentor for ODF Toolkit Podling

2014-05-20 Thread Rob Weir
we're unable to move forward, since that requires Mentor sign off on the release manifest/checklist. I am able and willing to help here. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For

[VOTE][RESULTS] Pre-clear ODF Toolkit Podling to use Alternate Release Voting Process

2014-04-24 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > The process is described here: > > http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Releases > > Please vote: > > [ ] +1 Yes, to pre-clear the ODF Toolkit Polding to use the Alternate > Release Voting Proce

[VOTE] Pre-clear ODF Toolkit Podling to use Alternate Release Voting Process

2014-04-21 Thread Rob Weir
Voting Process This majority vote will run for 72 hours. Votes cast by members of the Incubator PMC are binding. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail

Is a Software Grant Agreement always needed for IP Clearance?

2014-04-05 Thread Rob Vesse
sufficient? Thanks, Rob Vesse

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache ODF Release situation

2014-04-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> I'll upgrade my vote to +1 (binding) >> >> That gives us two +1's from the IPMC. Need one more to release. >> >> I realize many are bus

Re: [DISCUSS] Proposal for a Black Duck POC

2014-03-31 Thread Rob Vesse
it I would be willing to help out with a POC Cheers, Rob On 31/03/2014 01:52, "Roman Shaposhnik" wrote: >Hi! > >a few recent discussions around IP management >in the Incubator have lead to an interesting dialogue >between the fine folks from Black Duck Software and

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ODF Toolkit 0.6.1-incubating

2014-03-24 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > We've had a vote within the PPMC which passed: > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-odf-dev/201402.mbox/%3CCAP-ksogUFy-OkDkdJcNYDjnn8wUf%3DxcJX%2BG2xxQLKzp5PGKEgA%40mail.gmail.com%3E > > > We'r

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ODF Toolkit 0.6.1-incubating

2014-03-12 Thread Rob Weir
ders. > > Nothing to block this release. > > +1 (binding IPMC) > Great, thanks! -Rob > Regards, > Dave > > > On Mar 5, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Henry Saputra >> wrote: >>> Hi Rob, the result

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ODF Toolkit 0.6.1-incubating

2014-03-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Henry Saputra wrote: > Hi Rob, the result Vote within PPMC [1] did not indicate mentor Vote. > > Is there any mentor Vote in favor within ODF dev list Vote thread? > No, there were no votes from mentors. That's one of our problems, lack of ac

[VOTE] Release Apache ODF Toolkit 0.6.1-incubating

2014-02-19 Thread Rob Weir
We've had a vote within the PPMC which passed: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-odf-dev/201402.mbox/%3CCAP-ksogUFy-OkDkdJcNYDjnn8wUf%3DxcJX%2BG2xxQLKzp5PGKEgA%40mail.gmail.com%3E We're now looking for review and approval by the IPMC. Rega

Re: Github pull request hooks

2014-02-10 Thread Rob Vesse
on my personal profile I had to add my Apache email as an email address to my GitHub profile Rob On 10/02/2014 15:03, "Sergio Fernández" wrote: >BTW, where is the mapping file between asf ids and github ones? >I've seen some members of the apache organization there, but it looks

Re: Instead of a Bill how about a Booklet? (was Re: [DISCUSS] PodlingBillOfRights)

2013-06-20 Thread Rob Vesse
discussing here Rob On 6/20/13 12:22 PM, "Upayavira" wrote: >11. In certain circumstances, there are specific people charged with >certain responsibilities. Over time you can expect to learn who they >are, and where they hang out. Your mentor should be able to guide you >

Incubator Write Access

2013-06-20 Thread Rob Vesse
Could someone please grant me write access to the Incubator wiki My username is RobVesse Thanks, Rob

Re: Instead of a Bill how about a Booklet? (was Re: [DISCUSS] PodlingBillOfRights)

2013-06-20 Thread Rob Vesse
in your timezone may arrive in the middle of the night for the recipient(s) so be prepared to wait for a response. I think those of us who work in the US or for multi-national companies get used to dealing with timezones and tend to forget that a lot of people come from countries where there is onl

Re: [PROPOSAL] OData Proposal for Incubator

2013-06-17 Thread Rob Vesse
alternative to the MS/Oasis OData standard. Rob On 6/17/13 8:35 AM, "Klevenz, Stephan" wrote: >Dear ASF members, > >We would like to propose the OData project to the Incubator. > >The OData Proposal is available at: >https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ODataProposal >

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ODF Toolkit 0.6-incubating(RC5)

2013-05-23 Thread Rob Weir
> > > Thanks, so far I got the impression that the most important place to put my > key is at https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/ > I am not sure yet how to upload files to the dist folder but I'll figure > that out. > > As those cha

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ODF Toolkit 0.6-incubating(RC4)

2013-05-02 Thread Rob Weir
ry is >> f505f7c607098cdd77797417485584**49918b0b45 >> >> The changes can be found at here: >> >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/incubator/odf/tags/0.6-** >> incubating-rc4/CHANGES.txt<https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/odf/tags/0.6-incubating-rc4

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-28 Thread Rob Weir
code and core code modifications to exist, and there are indeed "real users" in this ecosystem who thrive on such extensions. Regards, -Rob > Regards, > Andrea. > > > ---

Re: Preparing for the October reports

2012-10-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Jukka Zitting >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Thanks for the reviews, Benson! I added you as a signer-off on t

Re: Preparing for the October reports

2012-10-11 Thread Rob Weir
n June, there were no mentor sign-offs on the ODF Toolkit report > and I see little mentor activity on odf-dev@. Do we need more/new > mentors for the project? > An additional pair of eyes on the podling is always welcome. Regards, -Rob > BR, > > Jukka Zitting > >

Re: [VOTE] [PMC] Starting Membership for Apache OpenOffice PMC

2012-10-02 Thread Rob Weir
ir identity, in their iCLA [1]. But the form also allows them (optionally) to indicate an additional "public name", essentially a pseudonym they use on the mailing lists, etc. -Rob [1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt >> Regards, >> Dave >> >> Begin f

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > Re adding ooo-dev@ since this is STILL an AOO issue. > > On Aug 27, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: >>> >>> On Aug 27, 2012, at 8:56

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Rob Weir
ect. We don't > know everything. But we *do* deserve consideration to make things Right. > AOO is an awesome opportunity or us all, and we should do what we can for > their success. It must happen with an old, and with a new, community > w

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 8:56 AM, wrote: > Jim Jagielski wrote on 08/27/2012 08:43:35 AM: > >> From: Jim Jagielski >> To: general@incubator.apache.org, Joe Schaefer >> , Rob Weir , >> Cc: "ooo-...@incubator.apache.org" >> Date: 08/27/2012 08:

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Rob Weir
ved by the PMC's 2) distributed on Apache mirrors 3) linked to as ASF products by project websites 4) accompanied by PGP/GPG detached signatures ...what additional liability do we believe comes from the technological change from one signature mechanism to another? O

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > On Aug 26, 2012, at 7:46 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > >> AOO doesn't need to change anything to their current release processes >> other than to stop pointing source downloads at svn (which is the sole >> reason I won't vote for AOO candidates).

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 7:26 AM, Branko Čibej wrote: > On 26.08.2012 13:15, Tim Williams wrote: >> Marvin gave the link earlier in this thread. 4th para is the relevant bit. >> >> http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#what > > The relevant part is in the last paragraph. However, that says > "conv

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-25 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >> I can give the IPMC a hand here, if my point is too obscure. A policy >> might look like this: >> >> Resolved: An Apache project's release consists o

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-25 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 7:42 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >> Or if someone who cared sufficiently about this policy area took >> ownership and proposed a wording of the policy, either as a Board >> resolution, or on legal-

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-24 Thread Rob Weir
etc., that are provided for the convenience of the user. These non-source artifacts must must be buildable from the canonical source artifact. Additional 3rd party libraries may be included solely in compliance with license policies defined by Apache Leg

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-24 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Marvin Humphrey > wrote: >> Returning to this topic after an intermission... >> >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz >> wrote: >>> On Tue, A

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-24 Thread Rob Weir
only to AOO, but to other podlings and to TLP's as well. Until that happens, I hear only opinions. But opinions, even widely held opinions, even Roy opinions, are not the same as policy. -Rob >> OTOH I don't think anybody said the ASF will never allow projects to >> distribut

[VOTE][RESULTS] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-22 Thread Rob Weir
The community vote has passed. Vote reference: http://s.apache.org/5GA +1 RGB-ES Rory O'Farrell Carl Marcum Reizinger Zoltan Keith N. McKenna Kay Schenk Roberto Galoppini Imacat Andrea Pescetti Regina Henschel Graham Lauder Jürgen Lange T.J. Frazier Rob Weir Dave Fisher Peter Junge Chri

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Rob Weir
elease, with only a handful of carefully reviewed patches, and that since AOO 3.4.0 was thoroughly reviewed and approved, that we could concentrate our effort on reviewing the delta between the two releases. Of course, if we do this we'll never find pre-existing errors, and it is clear now t

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Thilo Goetz wrote: >>> On 21/08/12 13:59, Branko Čibej wrote: >>>> On 21.08.2012 12:52, sebb wrote: >>>>

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Rob Weir
mpare the results. I'd bet any amount that all four NOTICE files will differ in substantive ways, and that there would be disagreement, both within the groups, and across the groups, on which was "correct". -Rob > Just trying to help here, so no flak my way please :-) > > BTW, I th

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Rob Weir
ake is that > both project don't move the output in the output directory of the > module. That is the default behaviour in all modules, generated output > during the build process goes into the module output directory. > Or said otherwise, these two JAR's are built from

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Rob Weir
that distinguishes their binaries as different from ours in status? I'm honestly trying to find out what, if anything, we need to change. Or whether we're just arguing semantics rather than code and bits. -Rob > -

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Rob Weir
ased a binary containing a virus or a trojan? And how many users have downloaded Apache source and built it? And how many of those users then found that their servers were compromised due to a security flaw in the Apache source? In theory source code can be inspected. In pr

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:33 PM, Greg Stein wrote: >> On Aug 20, 2012 8:33 PM, "Rob Weir" wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Greg Stein wrote: >>>... >>> > I wou

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:33 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Aug 20, 2012 8:33 PM, "Rob Weir" wrote: >> >> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Greg Stein wrote: >>... >> > I would also state that continuing to argue is symptomatic of a >> > failure

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Rob Weir
fice binaries and rebuilding the install set with different extensions, templates, etc. This is far easier than rebuilding from source. > Finally this is a well known brand now, it would be hard to believe that > if AOO did not release binaries the void would not be filled by others.

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Rob Weir
additional interest in the source drives more investment into the ecosyste, Regards, -Rob Regards, -Rob > Cheers, > -g > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Marvin Hu

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Rob Weir
st arguing about what color the bike shed is for angels dancing on a head of pin. It is a distinction without a difference, or at least not one that has been stated, -Rob > There has been disagreement about whether binaries should be official or not. > To the best of my knowledge, e

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Marvin Humphrey > wrote: >> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> Per the IPMC's "Guide to Successful Graduation" [1] this is the >>> optional, but

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-20 Thread Rob Weir
release package. Release votes are on verified open source artifacts. > Binary packages are separate from source packages. One cannot vote to > approve a release containing a mix of source and binary code because the > binary is not open source and cannot be verified to be safe for r

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >> Per the IPMC's "Guide to Successful Graduation" [1] this is the >> optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our >> willingness/rea

Fwd: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-19 Thread Rob Weir
-- Forwarded message -- From: Rob Weir Date: Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:52 AM Subject: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote To: ooo-...@incubator.apache.org Per the IPMC's "Guide to Successful Graduation" [1] this is the optional, but recommended, com

Re: References to "Apache OpenOffice"

2012-06-23 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 3:55 PM, drew wrote: > On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 15:42 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 2:59 PM, drew wrote: >> > On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 19:43 +0100, Nick Kew wrote: >> >> On 23 Jun 2012, at 19:37, Nick Kew wrote: >

Re: References to "Apache OpenOffice"

2012-06-23 Thread Rob Weir
e along with the post title. Se here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/114598373874764163668/posts/ZiRcwog5cDJ . If you try to fix it in the content itself, then you end up with suboptimal results for Google+ and other places that do bring the blog titl

[ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Released

2012-05-08 Thread Rob Weir
The Apache OpenOffice Podling Project Management Committee is pleased to announce the release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4, available on Windows, MacOS and Linux. Downloads are available at: http://download.openoffice.org The full release announcement can be read here: http://www.openoffice.org/news/

Re: Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-05-02 Thread Rob Weir
e reviews we've done have found and addressed many issues. It is far better than doing nothing. In the end, I'll take diligence over negligence any day. -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

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