On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Marvin Humphrey <mar...@rectangular.com> wrote: > On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: >> Per the IPMC's "Guide to Successful Graduation" [1] this is the >> optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our >> willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then >> we continue by drafting a charter, submitting it for IPMC endorsement, >> and then to the ASF Board for final approval. Details can be found >> in the "Guide to Successful Graduation". >> >> Everyone in the community is encouraged to vote. Votes from PPMC >> members and Mentors are binding. This vote will run 72-hours. >> >> >> [ ] +1 Apache OpenOffice community is ready to graduate from the >> Apache Incubator. >> [ ] +0 Don't care. >> [ ] -1 Apache OpenOffice community is not ready to graduate from the >> Apache Incubator because... > > In my opinion, the issue of binary releases ought to be resolved before > graduation. > > If the podling believes that ASF-endorsed binaries are a hard requirement, > then it seems to me that the ASF is not yet ready for AOO and will not be > until suitable infrastructure and legal institutions to support binary > releases (sterile build machines, artifact signing, etc) have been created > and a policy has been endorsed by the Board. > > One possibility discussed in the past was to have downstream commercial > vendors release binaries a la Subversion's example, which would > obviate the need for all the effort and risk associated with providing support > for ASF-endorsed binaries. For whatever reason, the AOO podling seems not to > have gone this direction, though. >
Let's look at the the TLP's that the IPMC has recommended, and the ASF Board has approved in recent months. Notice that a fair number of them releae source and binaries, as does the OpenOffice podling: Apache Lucene.Net -- releases source and binaries Apache DirectMemory -- releases source only Apache VCL -- releases source only Apache Hama -- releases source and binaries Apache MRUnit -- releases source only Apache Giraph -- releases source only Apache ManifoldCF -- releases source and binaries So I'm not quite sure in what way the ASF "is not ready" for a TLP that releases binaries, or what additional legal or procedural work needs to be done to enable this. As far as I can tell ASF projects release binaries today. I agree, sterile buildbots and code signing are good things to have, and we are working with Infra on this today, and would continue to peruse these avenues as a TLP. In any case, shouldn't the question be whether the podling is ready for the ASF rather than whether the ASF is ready for the poding? ;-) -Rob > Marvin Humphrey > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
