Re: GCC 3.3.6 has been released

2005-05-29 Thread Gerald Pfeifer
On Sun, 29 May 2005, Brian Dessent wrote: > Also, the link "GCC Frontend HOWTO" on readings.html is 404 compliant. Thanks, I just installed your patch. Keep this patches coming! :-) Gerald

Re: What is wrong with Bugzilla? [Was: Re: GCC and Floating-Point]

2005-05-29 Thread Joe Buck
On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 01:22:55PM +0300, Michael Veksler wrote: > Haren Visavadia wrote on 29/05/2005 10:51:00: > > > > You can search Bugzilla as well, so you do not fill in > > duplicate bug report. > > Unfortunately, this is not 100% correct. Recently I have filed several > duplicates, *after*

Re: bug or not ? ada loop in gcc-4.1-20050528

2005-05-29 Thread Andrew Pinski
On May 29, 2005, at 4:08 PM, Marc Espie wrote: I've got my build on OpenBSD-i386 stuck in a loop compiling stage2/xgcc -Bstage2/ -B/usr/local/i386-unknown-openbsd3.7/bin/ -c -O2 -g -fomit-frame-pointer -gnatpg -gnata -I- -I. -Iada -I/spare/ports/lang/gcc/4.1/w-gcc-4.1-20050528/gcc-4.1-

bug or not ? ada loop in gcc-4.1-20050528

2005-05-29 Thread Marc Espie
I've got my build on OpenBSD-i386 stuck in a loop compiling stage2/xgcc -Bstage2/ -B/usr/local/i386-unknown-openbsd3.7/bin/ -c -O2 -g -fomit-frame-pointer -gnatpg -gnata -I- -I. -Iada -I/spare/ports/lang/gcc/4.1/w-gcc-4.1-20050528/gcc-4.1-20050528/gcc/ada /spare/ports/lang/gcc/4.1/w-gcc-4.1

Re: Sine and Cosine Accuracy

2005-05-29 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 08:59:00PM +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote: > Marc Espie wrote: > >Sorry for chiming in after all this time, but I can't let this pass. > > > >Scott, where on earth did you pick up your trig books ? > > Sorry, too, but why one earth do modern time mathematics scholars > think th

Re: Sine and Cosine Accuracy

2005-05-29 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
Georg Bauhaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Marc Espie wrote: | > Sorry for chiming in after all this time, but I can't let this pass. | > Scott, where on earth did you pick up your trig books ? | | Sorry, too, but why one earth do modern time mathematics scholars | think that sine and cosine are

Re: Sine and Cosine Accuracy

2005-05-29 Thread Georg Bauhaus
Marc Espie wrote: Sorry for chiming in after all this time, but I can't let this pass. Scott, where on earth did you pick up your trig books ? Sorry, too, but why one earth do modern time mathematics scholars think that sine and cosine are bound to have to do with an equally modern notion of r

Re: What is wrong with Bugzilla? [Was: Re: GCC and Floating-Point]

2005-05-29 Thread Haren Visavadia
--- "Joseph S. Myers" wrote: > On Sun, 29 May 2005, Giovanni Bajo wrote: > > > You are mistaken, we think GCC isn't buggy about > 323 because the C/C++ > > standards do not tell us to do better than this. > If you have higher > > expectations about floating point and C/C++, you > should file a bu

Re: What is wrong with Bugzilla? [Was: Re: GCC and Floating-Point]

2005-05-29 Thread Joseph S. Myers
On Sun, 29 May 2005, Giovanni Bajo wrote: > You are mistaken, we think GCC isn't buggy about 323 because the C/C++ > standards do not tell us to do better than this. If you have higher > expectations about floating point and C/C++, you should file a bugreport > against the C/C++ standards. This i

Re: GCC 3.3.6 has been released

2005-05-29 Thread Brian Dessent
Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > yes, if you spot any inconsistency I'm very happy to accept a patch > ;-) Also, the link "GCC Frontend HOWTO" on readings.html is 404 compliant.--- readings.html.orig 2005-05-29 11:23:38.405875000 -0700 +++ readings.html 2005-05-29 11:24:03.405875000 -0700 @@ -75,

Re: What is wrong with Bugzilla?

2005-05-29 Thread Russ Allbery
William Beebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > OK, then let me explain it to you. The problem with the GCC Bugzilla > reporting system is that it's a system that only other developers can > tolerate, let alone love. Setting aside for the moment that GCC is a software package *targetted* at developer

Re: GCC 3.3.6 has been released

2005-05-29 Thread Brian Dessent
Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > yes, if you spot any inconsistency I'm very happy to accept a patch > ;-) I noticed that on it states: "A port of GCC 2.95.2 and 3.x is included with the Cygwin environment." However, the Cygwin project had to remove i

Re: Need GCC 3.3.6 PGP Signing Public Key

2005-05-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Gerald Pfeifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For example, I could easily create a key for Gabriel Dos Reis > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and upload it to the key servers, or some evil hacker > could do something similar. And, in fact, people do; this is not just theoretical. There is an extra (unsigned)

Re: What is wrong with Bugzilla? [Was: Re: GCC and Floating-Point]

2005-05-29 Thread William Beebe
On 29 May 2005 11:37:00 +0200, Kai Henningsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Robert Ladd) wrote on 28.05.05 in > > In my experience, people don't file Bugzilla reports because it feels > > impersonal and unresponsive. The form is not very user-friendly (as in > > friendly t

Re: What is wrong with Bugzilla? [Was: Re: GCC and Floating-Point]

2005-05-29 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Robert Ladd) wrote on 28.05.05 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Uros Bizjak wrote: > > At this point, I wonder what is wrong with Bugzilla, that those > > programmers don't fill a proper bug report. > > In my experience, people don't file Bugzilla reports because it feels > impe

Re: GCC and Floating-Point

2005-05-29 Thread Marc Espie
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: > http://csdl.computer.org/dl/mags/co/2005/05/r5091.pdf > "An Open Question to Developers of Numerical Software", by > W. Kahan and D. Zuras Doesn't look publically accessible from my machine...

Re: Sine and Cosine Accuracy

2005-05-29 Thread Marc Espie
Sorry for chiming in after all this time, but I can't let this pass. Scott, where on earth did you pick up your trig books ? The mathematical functions sine and cosine are defined everywhere. There is absolutely 0 identity involving them which doesn't apply all over the real, or the complex plane

Re: What is wrong with Bugzilla? [Was: Re: GCC and Floating-Point]

2005-05-29 Thread Michael Veksler
Giovanni Bajo wrote on 29/05/2005 13:50:59: > Michael Veksler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [2] GCC could implement a better error message. > > This is a bug, too. You can file a PR in Bugzilla explictly asking for a more > informative error message. > PR 21808 Michael

Re: What is wrong with Bugzilla? [Was: Re: GCC and Floating-Point]

2005-05-29 Thread Michael Veksler
"Giovanni Bajo wrote on 29/05/2005 13:54:39: > Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Perhaps because GCC developers think that GCC isn't buggy when the > > processor doesn't do the job for them? (I'm thinking of bug 323.) > > > You are mistaken, we think GCC isn't buggy about 323

Re: More front end type mismatch problems

2005-05-29 Thread Diego Novillo
On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 08:53:55AM -0400, Paul Schlie wrote: > Only because I perceived it to be necessary to most ideally/optimally > preserve the value-range result of a comparison expression. As it was > unclear if a comparison expression were defined as having an 'int' vs. > 'bool' result typ

Re: More front end type mismatch problems

2005-05-29 Thread Paul Schlie
> From: Diego Novillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 12:09:51PM -0400, Paul Schlie wrote: >> - Yes thanks; but my point was that the result of comparison should remain >> '_Bool' not 'int', and be properly promoted to likely 'char' not 'int'. As >> for VRP to be most useful it n

Re: What is wrong with Bugzilla? [Was: Re: GCC and Floating-Point]

2005-05-29 Thread Haren Visavadia
--- Michael Veksler wrote: > Unfortunately, this is not 100% correct. Recently I > have filed several > duplicates, *after* searching Bugzilla. > 1. There are too many ways to phrase a title, and > too many >times I search for wrong words. > > 2. The same bug may have several different user >

Re: What is wrong with Bugzilla? [Was: Re: GCC and Floating-Point]

2005-05-29 Thread Giovanni Bajo
Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> At this point, I wonder what is wrong with Bugzilla, that those >> programmers don't fill a proper bug report. If there is a problem >> with GCC, that is so annoying to somebody, I think that at least >> developers could be informed about it via their

Re: What is wrong with Bugzilla? [Was: Re: GCC and Floating-Point]

2005-05-29 Thread Giovanni Bajo
Michael Veksler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unfortunately, this is not 100% correct. Recently I have filed several > duplicates, *after* searching Bugzilla. That is not a problem. Bugmasters are there exactly for that. We realize that finding duplicates can be very hard (in fact, sometimes dupli

Re: What is wrong with Bugzilla? [Was: Re: GCC and Floating-Point]

2005-05-29 Thread Michael Veksler
Haren Visavadia wrote on 29/05/2005 10:51:00: > > You can search Bugzilla as well, so you do not fill in > duplicate bug report. Unfortunately, this is not 100% correct. Recently I have filed several duplicates, *after* searching Bugzilla. 1. There are too many ways to phrase a title, and to

[wwwdocs] Re: Bug in http://gcc.gnu.org/translation.html

2005-05-29 Thread Gerald Pfeifer
On Wed, 25 May 2005, Olly Betts wrote: >>> This page mentions the website : >>> http://www2.iro.umontreal.ca/~pinard/po/registry.cgi?team=index >>> >>> while www2.iro.umontreal.ca has no DNS resolution. >> It does resolve now; but then the webserver returns a 302 redirect to the >> same URI at w

Re: What is wrong with Bugzilla? [Was: Re: GCC and Floating-Point]

2005-05-29 Thread Haren Visavadia
--- Uros Bizjak wrote: > At this point, I wonder what is wrong with Bugzilla, > that those > programmers don't fill a proper bug report. If there > is a problem with > GCC, that is so annoying to somebody, I think that > at least developers > could be informed about it via their standard > chan

Re: Sine and Cosine Accuracy

2005-05-29 Thread Roger Sayle
On Thu, 26 May 2005, Scott Robert Ladd wrote: > I prefer breaking out the hardware intrinsics from > -funsafe-math-optimizations, such that people can compile to use their > hardware *without* the other transformations implicit in the current > collective. > > If someone can explain how this hurts