William Beebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> OK, then let me explain it to you. The problem with the GCC Bugzilla
> reporting system is that it's a system that only other developers can
> tolerate, let alone love.

Setting aside for the moment that GCC is a software package *targetted* at
developers, and hence the above is not necessarily a serious problem, I
agree that the Bugzilla interface isn't exactly my favorite UI.  However,
I haven't figured out a better one either, so I don't have a firm platform
on which to stand and complain.

Bug reporting interfaces appear to be a hard problem.

> The entire GCC website (of which GCC Bugzilla is a part) could be the
> poster child for why developers should never be allowed to design user
> interfaces, especially web user interfaces.

Well, unless you have some user interface designers lined up and
volunteering to help, this isn't really the most useful thing to say.  GCC
is a volunteer project; it uses the labor that it has available.

> You just need to be willing to put in the effort to look a little more
> professional and polished.

The people maintaining the GCC web site put a great deal of effort into
it.  If there is a problem, lack of effort isn't the cause of it.

You seem to be arguing that the people maintaining the web site have the
wrong skill set to do a good job at it.  Personally, the site looks great
to me, but then I'm a developer, so... :)  However, this is all just noise
on a mailing list in the absence of someone with different ideas who is
willing to do the work, just as with any other part of GCC.

If you feel there is a better way to do the web site, propose patches,
volunteer to help maintain it, and demonstrate why it's better.  Just like
with the rest of GCC.  If you don't have time to do that, you could try to
convince someone else to do it, or you could pay someone to do it.  Just
like with the rest of GCC.  In the absence of such a contribution, you
(and the web site) are at the mercy of the people who *are* willing to put
the effort into it.

Personally, I think they're doing a great job.  But maybe I just have a
tin eye for web site design too -- it's certainly possible.  I'm not
prejudging your argument that the web site could be better, just saying
that saying so on the mailing list isn't going to do anything towards
changing it.

-- 
Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED])             <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

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