FVWM: weird problem with displaying window titles

2024-12-03 Thread Pavel Vávra
Hi all, I use fvwm3 from Devuan stable distribution, mailer Sylpheed and sometimes I am facing messed window titles in my environment. Some non-ascii characters initiate garbage in title, but sometimes title is perfect including UTF-8 emotikons. I cannot determine rules why. When I try to ad

Re: FVWM: controlling window placement

2024-11-28 Thread Paul Fox
ent that some areas of the screen are off > > limits? As things are, windows often end up on top of my FvwmButtons, > > and my launcher buttons. > > In my eyes, the real solution is to not clutter the page with > stacked windows but instead use separate pages. Fvwm won

Re: FVWM: controlling window placement

2024-11-27 Thread Dominik Vogt
t; limits? As things are, windows often end up on top of my FvwmButtons, > and my launcher buttons. In my eyes, the real solution is to not clutter the page with stacked windows but instead use separate pages. Fvwm won't overlap the button window unless other windows are already much o

Re: FVWM: controlling window placement

2024-11-22 Thread Paul Fox
Nevermind. The answer is "EwmhBaseStruts", and the behavior I'm seeing is because I recently increased the size of all my buttons. So there was still a reserved area -- it just wasn't big enough. BTW, I'm amused that I found the answer by asking ChatGPT: > I u

FVWM: controlling window placement

2024-11-22 Thread Paul Fox
y launcher buttons. (fvwm 2.6.8) paul =-- paul fox, p...@foxharp.boston.ma.us (arlington, ma, where it's 43.0 degrees)

Re: FVWM: OT. xhole

2024-11-12 Thread Klaus Ethgen
Hi, Am Di den 12. Nov 2024 um 17:52 schrieb Thomas Adam: > On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 at 16:39, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > > Unfortunately it seems to be completely vanished from the net. Does > > anybody know where to get it from? > > Well. See: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Xhole.png > > Note

Re: FVWM: OT. xhole

2024-11-12 Thread Thomas Adam
On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 at 16:39, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > Unfortunately it seems to be completely vanished from the net. Does > anybody know where to get it from? Well. See: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Xhole.png Note also the program code which might work. Kindly, Thomas

FVWM: OT. xhole

2024-11-12 Thread Klaus Ethgen
Hi folks, it is a bit off topic but this list might be the only wou could answer my question. I search for the old interactive xhole tool to punch round holes into any x window using the shape extension. Unfortunately it seems to be completely vanished from the net. Does anybody know where to ge

FVWM: Vertical space for unicode X11 font

2024-10-21 Thread Mark Hills
o the font spec also results in the extra spacing: -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--11-*-100-100-p-56-iso8859-1 Is this a bug causing FVWM to incorrectly calculate vertical space? Or something deep in X11 font behaviour. How can I use unicode font but retain the smaller height for title bars

Re: FVWM: GotoPage key binding works only on fvwm restart

2024-09-30 Thread Thomas Adam
croll 10 10 > EdgeResistance 0 > EdgeThickness 2 > Style * EdgeMoveDelay 0 > Style * EdgeMoveResistance 0 > Key Right A C GotoPage wrapx +1p 0p > Key Left A C GotoPage wrapx -1p 0p > > For quite a while now, longer than I can remember, the Go

FVWM: GotoPage key binding works only on fvwm restart

2024-09-30 Thread Brad Robertson
t A C GotoPage wrapx +1p 0p Key Left A C GotoPage wrapx -1p 0p For quite a while now, longer than I can remember, the GotoPage key bindings only work if I do an fvwm restart. When I first launch X and start fvwm, those bindings do not work initially, but if I follow up with an fvwm restart, the

Re: FVWM: Mouse binding breaks Firefox? [SOLVED]

2024-04-04 Thread Roland Freikamp
25 17:02:14 +0100, Roland Freikamp wrote: > Hi, > > since a recent update (of fvwm, Firefox, or Xorg), > some fvwm-mouse-bindings break Website-menus in Firefox on Linux. > It worked fine previously. > > Details: > - Fvwm-configuration: > I used Super_L + left mouse-but

Re: FVWM: WindowList issue

2024-04-02 Thread Pavel Vávra
Hi, you can ignore my last question, maybe it was my mistake, it works fine now. Thank you again. Regards, P. On Mon, 1 Apr 2024 10:06:55 -0600 Jaimos Skriletz wrote: > On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 9:47 AM Pavel Vávra wrote: > > > > I use fvwm 2.6.8 from Devuan oldstable

Re: FVWM: WindowList issue

2024-04-02 Thread Pavel Vávra
Silent). In my old config I use Windowlist in both configurations, when I press ALT-TAB, I do not want to see geometry, but when I press mouse button at root window I want to see it. Now it seems that fvwm ignore NoGeometry, but with old config it work as expected. Is there another line in default

Re: FVWM: WindowList issue

2024-04-01 Thread Jaimos Skriletz
On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 9:47 AM Pavel Vávra wrote: > > I use fvwm 2.6.8 from Devuan oldstable distribution (I think its same > binary as from Debian oldstable). I am testing default fvwm config and I > found different results when I try to use WindowList from my old config and &

FVWM: WindowList issue

2024-04-01 Thread Pavel Vávra
Hi all, I use fvwm 2.6.8 from Devuan oldstable distribution (I think its same binary as from Debian oldstable). I am testing default fvwm config and I found different results when I try to use WindowList from my old config and when I want to use new config based on default config. When I use

FVWM: Mouse binding breaks Firefox?

2024-03-25 Thread Roland Freikamp
Hi, since a recent update (of fvwm, Firefox, or Xorg), some fvwm-mouse-bindings break Website-menus in Firefox on Linux. It worked fine previously. Details: - Fvwm-configuration: I used Super_L + left mouse-button to move/raise/lower windows, which is really handy: Mouse 0 W 4 move-and

Re: FVWM: Is Move in fvwm3 supposed to be (current) RandR screen relative?

2024-03-07 Thread Jaimos Skriletz
the wording sounds > > > a bit odd if explicit Move positions are supposed to be screen relative. > > > > Move honors EWMHBaseStruts, which even if they are zero, are now set > > per monitor. Due to this some computations don't work as you would > > expect, sin

Re: FVWM: Is Move in fvwm3 supposed to be (current) RandR screen relative?

2024-03-07 Thread Chris Siebenmann
upposed to be screen relative. > > Move honors EWMHBaseStruts, which even if they are zero, are now set > per monitor. Due to this some computations don't work as you would > expect, since fvwm will adjust the window location to be inside the > working area of the current monitor. Does

Re: FVWM: Is Move in fvwm3 supposed to be (current) RandR screen relative?

2024-03-06 Thread Jaimos Skriletz
of the wording sounds > > a bit odd if explicit Move positions are supposed to be screen relative. > > Move honors EWMHBaseStruts, which even if they are zero, are now set > per monitor. Due to this some computations don't work as you would > expect, since fvwm will adjust the w

FVWM: Is Move in fvwm3 supposed to be (current) RandR screen relative?

2024-03-06 Thread Chris Siebenmann
I've recently written an fvwm3 function to move and place my Emacs mail reading windows: DestroyFunc MHEEmacsPosition AddToFunc MHEEmacsPosition + I Next ("+inbox", "Emacs") Iconify False + I Next ("+inbox", "Emacs") Resize 80c 46c + I Next ("+in

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-09 Thread hw
On Thu, 2024-02-08 at 21:02 +1000, Stuart Longland wrote: > On 8/2/24 13:51, hw wrote: > > It has become a very limited option years ago and is basically > > obsolete. Just try to run, for example, firefox on a remote host via > > X11 forwarding. I suspect that anything that might use acceleratio

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-09 Thread hw
erent. Yet why shouldn't it be possible to create a > > compositor that provides the configurability fvwm has and which is so > > badly lacking in Gnome and KDE? > > Absolutely it is possible. But then it wouldn't be fvwm. > > > Is it really impossible to crea

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-09 Thread hw
e that works with the so-called desktop environment. Having to either hold a magnifying glass in front of the screen to be able to read the fonts or using software that isn't up to the task isn't the only problem, only a very annoying one. > Either that or primitive tiling ones (ta

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-08 Thread mark_at_yahoo
On 2/7/24 20:09, hw wrote: On Sat, 2024-02-03 at 13:53 +0100, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: I hope to be able to go on with Xorg until I live. Or use wayland and start living now :) Living in the past seldwhen is a good idea. Except when the past is better: More capable, complete, and highly evolv

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-08 Thread Thomas Adam
ompositor that provides the configurability fvwm has and which is so > badly lacking in Gnome and KDE? Absolutely it is possible. But then it wouldn't be fvwm. > Is it really impossible to create a wayland compositor that provides > the required functionality? I'm not entirely certa

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-08 Thread Stuart Longland
On 8/2/24 13:51, hw wrote: It has become a very limited option years ago and is basically obsolete. Just try to run, for example, firefox on a remote host via X11 forwarding. I suspect that anything that might use acceleration powers of a graphics card doesn't work, and that kinda leaves only x

Re: FVWM: fvwm3? [on Wayland]

2024-02-08 Thread Stuart Longland
le for base OS requirements. I cannot confirm this, but rumor has it that Theo, the forker of OpenBSD from NetBSD uses FVWM, so I would bet that even though Wayland is being brought in, Xorg as Xenocara will be here to stay. That would not surprise me at all. OpenBSD's FVWM is the v1 release of

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-07 Thread hw
t when it's no longer used anyway? > So, I'll keep fvwm alive for as long as I can, but I really can't see how > there could ever be a Wayland compositor. I still don't see why it shouldn't be possible. I never expected a port, and I understand that the architectures o

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-07 Thread hw
On Fri, 2024-02-02 at 22:42 -0600, Jason Tibbitts wrote: > I'm running wayland right now (with the KDE desktop) and can fire up > a local xterm or ssh to a different machine and run xterm and it > works just fine. Does this have to be done from an X11 client (like xterm) so you're doing it from wi

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-07 Thread hw
gt; do not think any colleague does. Our recent standard installation at work > is Xubuntu (it used to be OpenSuse), and I had it mimicked on both the > home desktop (20.04) and home laptop (22.04) ... first thing I did was to > imstall also fvwm, and then run my good old .fvwmrc with the M

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-07 Thread hw
On Fri, 2024-02-02 at 10:55 -0500, Paul Fox wrote: > I realize this discussion is drifting away from fvwm, but... > > ...a major part of my daily activity has always depended on X11's > ability to function on remote displays. Does that functionality > (i.e. "DISPLAY=remo

Re: FVWM: fvwm3? [on Wayland]

2024-02-07 Thread Chris Bennett
On Sun, Feb 04, 2024 at 07:30:05PM +0100, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2024 Sun, 4 Feb 01:14:21 +0100 > Martin Cermak scripsit: > > On Sun 2024-02-04 09:51 , Stuart Longland wrote: > > [...] > > > > IMHO for FVWM to survive, the FVWM community needs

Re: FVWM: fvwm3? [on Wayland]

2024-02-05 Thread John McCue
On Sun, Feb 04, 2024 at 07:30:05PM +0100, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: Anno domini 2024 Sun, 4 Feb 01:14:21 +0100 Martin Cermak scripsit: On Sun 2024-02-04 09:51 , Stuart Longland wrote: [...] IMHO for FVWM to survive, the FVWM community needs to focus on wayland. And start from scratch... I

Re: FVWM: fvwm3? [on Wayland]

2024-02-04 Thread mark_at_yahoo
I'm going to document my own hatred for Wayland here, not that it will make any difference to its unstoppable adoption and the subsequent likely demise of FVWM. Note that I'm not an expert on the subject(s) nor do I have the time or inclination to become one as I'm 100% convinc

Re: FVWM: fvwm3? [on Wayland]

2024-02-04 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Anno domini 2024 Sun, 4 Feb 01:14:21 +0100 Martin Cermak scripsit: > On Sun 2024-02-04 09:51 , Stuart Longland wrote: > [...] > > IMHO for FVWM to survive, the FVWM community needs to focus on > wayland. And start from scratch... I wish this happens. How many here have grey

Re: FVWM: fvwm3? [on Wayland]

2024-02-04 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
- Are people using FVWM for its looks? (Themability) Looks/functionallity: I want the MWM look/functionallity. Yes, I too like a simple mwm-like look, but even more I like the complete and easy customizability. I think there are proofs on the net of completely different looks. AND

Re: FVWM: fvwm3? [on Wayland]

2024-02-04 Thread Martin Cermak
O the distributions effectively need a vibrant community around a project to pick it up. It can hardly be a one man show. The denial will start with security issues, as usual... IMHO for FVWM to survive, the FVWM community needs to focus on wayland. And start from scratch... I wish this happens. m.

Re: FVWM: fvwm3? [on Wayland]

2024-02-03 Thread Robert Heller
At Sun, 4 Feb 2024 09:51:45 +1000 Stuart Longland wrote: > > On 4/2/24 08:05, Thomas Adam wrote: > I think this is where we need to consider what the FVWM/Wayland re-write > would look like. What can be practically brought across under the > constraints of the `wlroots` back-

Re: FVWM: fvwm3? [on Wayland]

2024-02-03 Thread Stuart Longland
On 4/2/24 08:05, Thomas Adam wrote: Wayland is not Xlib. I have been, in my spare time, looking at the XServer code and all the other libraries surrounding it, and looking at open MRs on Xorg's Gitlab instance -- which means I am going to help keep XServer alive -- which by extension means

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-03 Thread Thomas Adam
re XLib/Xaw applications, and nothing more. Certainly, running fvwm under XWayland is possible, but because of the RandR support available, it doesn't recognise the host's screens, and hence doesn't work how you'd expect it to at present. Beyond that limitation, there's sti

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-03 Thread Mandar Mitra
Lucio Chiappetti wrote (Sat, Feb 03, 2024 at 01:53:29PM +0100): > I hope to be able to go on with Xorg until I live. Amen! :-)

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-03 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
ome laptop (22.04) ... first thing I did was to imstall also fvwm, and then run my good old .fvwmrc with the Minimum Necessary Change. I hope to be able to go on with Xorg until I live.

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-02 Thread Stuart Longland
On 3/2/24 01:55, Paul Fox wrote: I realize this discussion is drifting away from fvwm, but... ...a major part of my daily activity has always depended on X11's ability to function on remote displays. Does that functionality (i.e. "DISPLAY=remotehost:0" vs. "DISPLAY=:0"

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-02 Thread Jason Tibbitts
> John McCue writes: > I heard of waypipe, but from what I understand is for it to work, the > remote system needs to have wayland too. Well, it's for running a wayland application on a remote machine displaying on your local wayland-running machine. If you want to run an X11 application on

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-02 Thread John McCue
On Fri, Feb 02, 2024 at 06:11:01PM -0600, Jason Tibbitts wrote: Robert Heller writes: I believe Wayland does not support that sort of thing. It does, actually, but not exactly the same way. Look up "waypipe". One does get the impression that it's all an afterthought, though. I heard of w

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-02 Thread Paul Fox
robert wrote: > > At Fri, 02 Feb 2024 18:11:01 -0600 Jason Tibbitts wrote: > > > > > > Robert Heller writes: > > > > > I believe Wayland does not support that sort of thing. > > > > It does, actually, but not exactly the same way. Look up "waypipe". > > One does get the impres

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-02 Thread Robert Heller
At Fri, 02 Feb 2024 18:11:01 -0600 Jason Tibbitts wrote: > > > Robert Heller writes: > > > I believe Wayland does not support that sort of thing. > > It does, actually, but not exactly the same way. Look up "waypipe". > One does get the impression that it's all an afterthought, though.

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-02 Thread Jason Tibbitts
> Robert Heller writes: > I believe Wayland does not support that sort of thing. It does, actually, but not exactly the same way. Look up "waypipe". One does get the impression that it's all an afterthought, though. - J<

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-02 Thread Robert Heller
At Fri, 02 Feb 2024 10:55:46 -0500 Paul Fox wrote: > > I realize this discussion is drifting away from fvwm, but... > > ...a major part of my daily activity has always depended on X11's > ability to function on remote displays. Does that functionality > (i.e. &q

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-02 Thread Chris Siebenmann
you can run an X-based editor or xterm under Wayland, at least to some degree, but you can't run fvwm; the special X APIs that window managers use don't work. - cks

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-02 Thread Paul Fox
I realize this discussion is drifting away from fvwm, but... ...a major part of my daily activity has always depended on X11's ability to function on remote displays. Does that functionality (i.e. "DISPLAY=remotehost:0" vs. "DISPLAY=:0") exist if either or both of the

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-02 Thread ml-fvwm
/02/2024 à 04:28, hw a écrit : On Tue, 2024-01-30 at 14:02 -0700, Jaimos Skriletz wrote: On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 1:25 PM hw wrote: so is there finally a version that works for wayland? No, fvwm only works with xorg and most likely won't be ported. What are the differences between

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-02 Thread Robert Heller
At Fri, 02 Feb 2024 04:28:44 +0100 hw wrote: > > On Tue, 2024-01-30 at 14:02 -0700, Jaimos Skriletz wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 1:25 PM hw wrote: > > > > > > so is there finally a version that works for wayland? > > > > > No, fvwm

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-02-01 Thread hw
On Tue, 2024-01-30 at 14:02 -0700, Jaimos Skriletz wrote: > On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 1:25 PM hw wrote: > > > > so is there finally a version that works for wayland? > > > No, fvwm only works with xorg and most likely won't be ported. > > > What are t

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-01-30 Thread Chris Siebenmann
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 1:25 PM hw wrote: > > so is there finally a version that works for wayland? > > > No, fvwm only works with xorg and most likely won't be ported. To add some information, a 'port' would be more difficult than it sounds. The archite

Re: FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-01-30 Thread Jaimos Skriletz
On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 1:25 PM hw wrote: > > so is there finally a version that works for wayland? > No, fvwm only works with xorg and most likely won't be ported. > What are the differences between fvwm2 and fvwm3? > See https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm3/discussions/878 jaimos

FVWM: fvwm3?

2024-01-30 Thread hw
Hi, so is there finally a version that works for wayland? What are the differences between fvwm2 and fvwm3?

Re: FVWM: Abort from FRenderRender -> XRenderCreatePicture()

2024-01-29 Thread Mark Hills
gt; > > > > There was a change in libX11 that caused fvwm crashes due to event > > handling. That has been fixed in fvwm3, and the fix isn't in fvwm2 > > yet, but you can find the patch here: > > > > https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm/pull/102 [...] I'

FVWM: EWMH desktops

2024-01-29 Thread Ananas
issue --- fvwm3-1.0.9/fvwm/ewmh_events.c.orig 2024-01-29 12:00:49.382126497 +0200 +++ fvwm3-1.0.9/fvwm/ewmh_events.c 2024-01-29 12:02:07.292984352 +0200 @@ -53,9 +53,11 @@ * intend window (fw) is NULL, disallow this. We only want to switch * desktops on client requests for the correct de

Re: FVWM: Abort from FRenderRender -> XRenderCreatePicture()

2024-01-23 Thread Mark Hills
On Tue, 23 Jan 2024, Jaimos Skriletz wrote: > On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 6:07 AM Mark Hills wrote: > > > > I'm experiencing rare (but annoying) whole X session crashes, since > > mid-2023. > > > > There was a change in libX11 that caused fvwm crashes due to ev

Re: FVWM: Abort from FRenderRender -> XRenderCreatePicture()

2024-01-23 Thread Jaimos Skriletz
On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 6:07 AM Mark Hills wrote: > > I'm experiencing rare (but annoying) whole X session crashes, since > mid-2023. > There was a change in libX11 that caused fvwm crashes due to event handling. That has been fixed in fvwm3, and the fix isn't in fvwm2 yet

FVWM: Abort from FRenderRender -> XRenderCreatePicture()

2024-01-23 Thread Mark Hills
I'm experiencing rare (but annoying) whole X session crashes, since mid-2023. To my surprise it turns out to be FVWM exiting on SIGABRT. I was able to make these crashes more likely by exercising Chromium screen-scraping, Firefox playing YouTube, whilst iconifying a small window. And

Re: FVWM: FVWM3: 2 monitors with different geometries?

2023-12-23 Thread Mandar Mitra
rwards, I think I can use move-to-desk, starts-on-desk and similar functions to complete the rest of my setup. Also, I'm sure there are more elegant ways to achieve this, but I suppose restarting fvwm after plugging in the external monitor will take care of detecting it, activating per-mo

Re: FVWM: FVWM3: 2 monitors with different geometries?

2023-12-22 Thread Mandar Mitra
Jaimos Skriletz wrote (Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 12:45:34PM -0700): > On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 9:42 AM Mandar Mitra wrote: > > > > > > Browsing around FVWM3's git repo, and looking at > > https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm3/blob/main/dev-docs/NEW-COMMANDS.md#hierarchy-and-specification > > in particular,

Re: FVWM: FVWM3: 2 monitors with different geometries?

2023-12-22 Thread Jaimos Skriletz
On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 9:42 AM Mandar Mitra wrote: > > > Browsing around FVWM3's git repo, and looking at > https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm3/blob/main/dev-docs/NEW-COMMANDS.md#hierarchy-and-specification > in particular, it seems like fvwm3 will allow me to have independent > desktops with app

FVWM: FVWM3: 2 monitors with different geometries?

2023-12-22 Thread Mandar Mitra
I have a laptop with a 1366x768 screen (say Screen1), and a 1920x1080 monitor (say Screen2) connected to it (via HDMI or VGA). Browsing around FVWM3's git repo, and looking at https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm3/blob/main/dev-docs/NEW-COMMANDS.md#hierarchy-and-specification in particular, it seems

Re: FVWM: Writing a module?

2023-12-02 Thread Dov Grobgeld
Thanks for the tip! I thought that if writing a module was easy, it > would be an easy way to better blend in with my fvwm theme. So I'll > probably write in (python) gtk, which was actually my original plan. > > Regards, > > On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 10:58 PM Jaimos Skriletz >

Re: FVWM: Rocky 9, Konsole, and FVWM3

2023-11-30 Thread R Tapia
Hi, I was on the right track. It was actually pretty easy to track this down and fix it. I filed a konsole bug report: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477800 I was able to fix my environment by rebuilding console with a small change. I cloned the konsole repository: https:/

FVWM: Rocky 9, Konsole, and FVWM3

2023-11-30 Thread R Tapia
Hi, I just upgraded my workstation to Rocky 9. I installed FVWM3 and I'm trying to run KDE's konsole program. In particular, I'm trying to get background images working in konsole. They worked under SL7 (my previous operating system). I haven't gone very far in debugging, I'm just wondering i

Re: FVWM: Writing a module?

2023-11-27 Thread Dov Grobgeld
Thanks for the tip! I thought that if writing a module was easy, it would be an easy way to better blend in with my fvwm theme. So I'll probably write in (python) gtk, which was actually my original plan. Regards, On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 10:58 PM Jaimos Skriletz wrote: > > On Mon, N

FVWM: Writing a module?

2023-11-27 Thread Dov Grobgeld
Hello, I would like some guidance on whether the following idea makes sense to do as a fvwm module. 1. I own a simple drawing tablet, that I typically position in portrait orientation right next to my keyboard. 2. The rectangle of the drawing tablet maps to a rectangular area of my (landscape

FVWM: Writing a module for illustrating tablet to screen mapping

2023-11-27 Thread Dov Grobgeld
Hello, I would like some guidance on whether the following idea makes sense to do as a fvwm module. 1. I own a simple drawing tablet, that I typically position in portrait orientation right next to my keyboard. 2. The rectangle of the drawing tablet maps to a rectangular area of my (landscape

FVWM: Fwd: Writing a module for illustrating tablet to screen mapping

2023-11-24 Thread Dov Grobgeld
Hello, I would like some guidance on whether the following idea makes sense to do as a fvwm module. 1. I own a simple drawing tablet, that I typically position in portrait orientation right next to my keyboard. 2. The rectangle of the drawing tablet maps to a rectangular area of my (landscape

FVWM: popup menus stay on top, please? #906

2023-09-26 Thread Harald Dunkel
Windows # Style * DecorateTransient, RaiseTransient, DontLowerTransient, StackTransientParent Style * UseTransientPPosition ``` (inherited from my old fvwm2 config), but these popups are not decorated, so either they are not transient, or something overrides fvwm. Talking about fvwm2: I cannot reproduce t

Re: FVWM: emulating mouse button 2 on HP touchpad

2023-09-20 Thread Chris Siebenmann
[reviving an old thread that I lost track of] > On Sun, 14 May 2023, Thomas Adam wrote: > > On Sun, 14 May 2023 at 22:12, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: > >> So the problem is an incompatibility between xterm and fvwm syntethic > >> events (or a syntax problem with PointerK

Re: FVWM: fvwm3: how to make qmmp2 sticky?

2023-08-01 Thread Thomas Adam
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 at 19:31, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > Hi folks, > > using fvwm3 and > > Style "qmmp" NoTitle, WindowListSkip, Sticky, StaysOnBottom > > qmmp2 (https://sourceforge.net/projects/qmmp-dev/files/qmmp/2.1/) is not > sticky. The other attributes from the list work as expected.

FVWM: fvwm3: how to make qmmp2 sticky?

2023-07-31 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, using fvwm3 and Style "qmmp" NoTitle, WindowListSkip, Sticky, StaysOnBottom qmmp2 (https://sourceforge.net/projects/qmmp-dev/files/qmmp/2.1/) is not sticky. The other attributes from the list work as expected. Similar Styles like Style "xclock" NoTitle, WindowList

FVWM: Announcement: NsCDE 2.3

2023-06-16 Thread Hegel3DReloaded
Hi, >From this release, FVWM3 is the "main driver", altrough, FVWM 2 compatibility >is maintained. After some 11 months, Not so Common Desktop Environment (NsCDE) 2.3 is finally released. In this release, there are as usual many fixes and improvements, as well as some new fe

FVWM: Switching to Gentoo, I still have some odd behavior with FVWM2 and button2

2023-06-07 Thread Steven Lembark
Running fvwm2 on a new copy of Gentoo w/ Lenovo ThinkPad X13 (Ryzen). I've installed a new copy of Gentoo w/ FVWM 2.6.9 & Fluxbox for comparison. The Gentoo build is from 2.7.0. Copy over my ./.fvwm/config file. As a santiy check I start up Fluxbox, and all three buttons work as

FVWM: Mouse binding prevents some buttons from working on FVWM 2.7.0

2023-06-06 Thread Stephen Talley
Mouse 1 W C Echo "Hello" If I take that line out, clicks go to the right widgets in the video players. I've tried: Mouse 1 W C Echo "Hello" Mouse 1 W A -- …and: Mouse 1 W A -- Mouse 1 W C Echo "Hello" …to no avail -- I can't get my mapping to

Re: FVWM: google meet presentation versus fvwm viewports

2023-05-31 Thread Thomas Adam
On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 10:44:10AM +0200, Martin Cermak wrote: > This is annoying. It forces me to keep my firefox presentation > in an active viewport. How can I work this around? You would need to detect if the window changes state here to be either iconic, or a smaller version of itself, etc.

FVWM: google meet presentation versus fvwm viewports

2023-05-25 Thread Martin Cermak
Hi folks, I need to use google meet with firefox on linux. I use fvwm 2.6 and I'm switching between viewports using GotoDesk 0 , where is a viewport number/id (hope I'm using the right terminology). A recent version of google meet started to behave such that when I'm presentin

Re: FVWM: emulating mouse button 2 on HP touchpad

2023-05-15 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Mon, 15 May 2023, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: I'll be reading the libinput synaptics and synclient manpages. I've done this exercise and some tests ELAN076D: 00 04F3:3244 Mouse id=10 [slave pointer (2)] ELAN076D: 00 04F3:3244 Touchpadid=11 [slave pointer (2)]

Re: FVWM: emulating mouse button 2 on HP touchpad

2023-05-15 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Mon, 15 May 2023, Mandar Mitra wrote: You mention your laptop is new, so it is likely that the touchpad supports multitouch and other goodies. yes, brand new. So the OS (Xubuntu 22.04) Synaptics driver and libinput (probably the correct, "modern" option). xinput returns among others (wh

Re: FVWM: emulating mouse button 2 on HP touchpad

2023-05-15 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Sun, 14 May 2023, Thomas Adam wrote: On Sun, 14 May 2023 at 22:12, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: So the problem is an incompatibility between xterm and fvwm syntethic events (or a syntax problem with PointerKey ?) No. By default generating synthetic events is considered a security risk

Re: FVWM: emulating mouse button 2 on HP touchpad

2023-05-15 Thread Mandar Mitra
it clumsy. > > So the problem is an incompatibility between xterm and fvwm syntethic events > (or a syntax problem with PointerKey ?) I don't understand this very well, so I have a related question: are all events generated by xdotool synthetic events? Does this mean that xdotoo

Re: FVWM: emulating mouse button 2 on HP touchpad

2023-05-15 Thread Mandar Mitra
Lucio Chiappetti wrote (Sat, May 13, 2023 at 11:44:36PM +0200): > I am since ages a keen fvwm user (2.6.8 bundled with ubuntu), mostly on a > desktop PC, with a personal configuration described in > http://sax.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/WWW/Opinions/window.html. > > In particular

Re: FVWM: Resizing

2023-05-14 Thread Chris Bennett
ualbox. > > > > > > Usually, fvwm does not apply to such an event and need to be restarted. > > > But this is suboptimal and I would like to find a better solution (even > > > automatic restart would be better). > > > > In fvwm3, randr support suppo

Re: FVWM: Resizing

2023-05-14 Thread Klaus Ethgen
Am Mo den 8. Mai 2023 um 19:24 schrieb Thomas Adam: > On Sun, 7 May 2023 at 09:08, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > > what is the best method to react to resizing displays? Be it on beamer > > or in a virtualbox. > > > > Usually, fvwm does not apply to such an event and need to

Re: FVWM: emulating mouse button 2 on HP touchpad

2023-05-14 Thread Thomas Adam
On Sun, 14 May 2023 at 22:12, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: > So the problem is an incompatibility between xterm and fvwm syntethic > events (or a syntax problem with PointerKey ?) > > Is there a solution ? No. By default generating synthetic events is considered a security risk. which is

Re: FVWM: emulating mouse button 2 on HP touchpad

2023-05-14 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Sat, 13 May 2023, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: In particular (independently of fvwm ?) I am used to do quick copy-and-paste of text selecting it with mouse button 1 (MB1) and pasting with mouse button 2 (MB2). Or shift-MB1 and shift-MB2 in my favourite editor (Hessling ... Editor), due to a

Re: FVWM: emulating mouse button 2 on HP touchpad

2023-05-14 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Sat, 13 May 2023, E Frank Ball wrote: On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 11:44:36PM +0200, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: > In particular (independently of fvwm ?) I am used to do quick > copy-and-paste of text selecting it with mouse button 1 (MB1) and pasting > with mouse button 2 (MB2). Or shif

Re: FVWM: emulating mouse button 2 on HP touchpad

2023-05-13 Thread E Frank Ball
On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 11:44:36PM +0200, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: > > In particular (independently of fvwm ?) I am used to do quick > copy-and-paste of text selecting it with mouse button 1 (MB1) and pasting > with mouse button 2 (MB2). Or shift-MB1 and shift-MB2 in my favouri

FVWM: emulating mouse button 2 on HP touchpad

2023-05-13 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
I am since ages a keen fvwm user (2.6.8 bundled with ubuntu), mostly on a desktop PC, with a personal configuration described in http://sax.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/WWW/Opinions/window.html. In particular (independently of fvwm ?) I am used to do quick copy-and-paste of text selecting it

Re: FVWM: Oddity with Mouse 2 using fvwm 2.6 & 2.7 on Suse Tumbleweed

2023-05-13 Thread mark_at_yahoo
ame question for close to 20 years: http://www.fvwm.org/fvwm-ml/11051.html https://www.fvwm.org/fvwm-ml/9863.html. My condolences and apologies for adding to your workload. Update #3: Within the above limitations I think I have things under control. I can add explicit "IconOverride"

Re: fvwm2 -> fvwm3 (War: FVWM: Resizing)

2023-05-12 Thread Klaus Ethgen
Am Do den 11. Mai 2023 um 21:27 schrieb Thomas Adam: > > - FvwmProxy gone > > Correct. Is there any replacement? I was using FvwmProxy quite often as I often have many windows one upon the other and need to find a specific window. It is also helpful to find windows that some cracy applikation s

Re: fvwm2 -> fvwm3 (War: FVWM: Resizing)

2023-05-11 Thread mark_at_yahoo
et one style of icon for my terminal windows (mate-terminal, KDE konsole, etc) but a different one after a "FvwmCommand restart" (and seemingly sometimes at random, without). > > Q: How can I list the compiled-in default "+" ImagePath, maybe > >with some command

Re: FVWM: fvwm: ../../src/xcb_io.c:626: _XAllocID: Assertion `ret != inval_id' failed.

2023-05-11 Thread Jaimos Skriletz
On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 3:21 PM Thomas Adam wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 10:36:48AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > sometimes fvwm 2.70 (built by Debian) dies with > > Please take a look at the last master commit in the fvwm2 repo. > >

Re: FVWM: Oddity with Mouse 2 using fvwm 2.6 & 2.7 on Suse Tumbleweed

2023-05-11 Thread Thomas Adam
. It's a global command that should be set at the top of your file. See: https://www.fvwm.org/Wiki/Tips/FvwmStartup/ > From reading the documentation I've always assumed that FVWM searches > the ":"-separated paths (including the default indicated by "+") fo

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