Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

ing it closely so may not have seen any of this discussion.  I recommend her personal reflections on Alexander's work: Delight's Muse <https://www.amazon.com/DelightS-Christopher-AlexanderS-Nature-Order/dp/143031317X> . On 9/27/22 4:38 PM, Steve Smith wrote: On 9/27/22 7:40

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

nly be our great grandchildren who will care?   The old collar just went down the time-capsule pipe that is my spiral staircase... sequestering (interesting?) carbon and precious metals one tiny bit at a time. I said I would stop didn't I?  Inertia!  Talkaholism! Ideaphoria! - Steve

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

ll businesses! What will our billionaire overlords think up next? On 9/27/22 19:02, Steve Smith wrote: > I believe Jenny is still subscribed to this list but probably isn't following it closely so may not have seen any of this discussion.  I recommend her personal reflections on Alex

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

Glen - I saw a good little joke this morning, which echoes SteveS' nihilistic argument from convenience: https://mastodon.social/web/@AgreeableLandscape/109074621789771764 "Why do you have a job at a private company, buy food from a chain grocery store, and have a smartphone from a monopolisti

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

On 9/28/22 10:38 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: Amazon is almost always easier and faster than a local business that have thin inventory and higher margins.  A local business is a place get COVID. I find I usually order hardware and equipment online from Home Depot because the store inventory is ke

Re: [FRIAM] Pardon the interuption, for questions about banking apps

On 9/30/22 9:01 AM, glen wrote: But the real question is: Why are you using BofA? I mean, loads of passive investing rent-seekers will *thank* you for allowing them to suck money from you into their accounts (2.87% dividends for BAC!). Why not use something more local? Any thoughts/insight/a

Re: [FRIAM] Zoom Friam

Merle - THE Ralph Abraham ?  Or the OTHER Ralph Abraham ?  Or Yet Another... ? The Trialogues

Re: [FRIAM] Ralph Abraham, Rob and Chris Shaw (was: Re: Zoom Friam)

openhagen on my way back from Merle's gig in Stockholm. Thanks for more Landau links...  the Cuban thing was very... "very"... - Steve On 10/14/22 8:15 PM, Stephen Guerin wrote: *On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 3:45 PM Steve Smith wrote:* *THE Ralph Abraham <https://en.w

Re: [FRIAM] Is consciousness measurable?

On 10/18/22 10:21 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: A deep learning system set up for next sentence prediction, one that consumed gigabytes of literature, would learn to mimic emotions as expressed in writing.   It would likely have mappings of context and events to plausible emotional descriptions.

Re: [FRIAM] naive question

Frank - This is all up to the incremental differences between SH/CSH/BASH/*SH for example of course.    The (more) general purpose language families such as those growing out of "C" for example (I know little about "A" and "B" except that the preceded "C" during a very short period of evoluti

Re: [FRIAM] naive question

cool and all. But when my simulation takes a fvcking WEEK to execute, it's difficult to sympathize. I've recently been playing around with VSCodium, which is pretty cool. But whatever, man. I still have to upload the code somewhere and execute it. Get off my lawn! On 10/21/22 09

Re: [FRIAM] naive question

> > > [⛧] Rant: This is a good talk > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ab3ArE8W3s>. But I get super > irritated when people use *toy* code in their rhetoric and leave large > scale deployment as an exercise for the reader. Yeah, fine. The REPL

[FRIAM] Open Source/Design/Society and Sustainability and Collapse

z, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 3:08 PM Steve Smith wrote: FWIW,  I dipped into the higher levels of real-time-systems development several times in my career.  The earliest being a control system (circa 1981) for the LANL Proton Stor

[FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter

https://mashable.com/article/please-stop-tweeting-leaving-twitter https://mashable.com/article/i-was-going-to-quit-twitter-but-elon-musk-takeover I have a *very* limited twitter engagement myself.  Same with FB and *zero* with anything else *but* Instagram where I restrict myself to viewing an

Re: [FRIAM] phones with keyboards, or a keyboard you can buy for a phone?

Gil - This is the keyboard I bought a few years ago... it seems well constructed and has held up well to my very limited use... mostly with a mini (android-enabled) projector and with my Oculus Quest and Go HMDs.   ) https://www.amazon.com/Foldable-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Touchpad-Rechargeable/dp/

Re: [FRIAM] phones with keyboards, or a keyboard you can buy for a phone?

REC - Great find!  I'm not in the market myself for such a thing, as much as I like the tactile feedback, TK (tiny keyboards) don't work for me either...   "you can't touch-type on a tiny-keyboard" (... to the tune of "can't rollerskate in buffalo herd"), but I *like* knowing that the "free m

Re: [FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter

than having one big centralized system. My new Mastodon accounts are here: fediscience.org/@cas_group berlin.social/@JochenFromm ruby.social/@jofr -J. Original message From: Steve Smith Date: 10/30/22 6:50 PM (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subj

Re: [FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter

nd decentralized approach is much better than having one big centralized system. My new Mastodon accounts are here: fediscience.org/@cas_group berlin.social/@JochenFromm ruby.social/@jofr -J. Original message From: Steve Smith Date: 10/30/22 6:50 PM (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morni

Re: [FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter

are being selected for impulsiveness due to limited message length.  Having models of hundreds of millions of individuals’ impulses could be valuable to all sorts of organizations. On Oct 31, 2022, at 10:28 AM, Steve Smith wrote:  Great quote from CDs screed: "Every billionaire

Re: [FRIAM] books by cheng and chang

On 11/2/22 9:43 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote: Thanks, Glen. It would be nice if there were a public bibliographic reference url that one could use to name a book that only conveyed the thing in itself.  Goodreads was that once, then Amazon bought them.  Ditto for video and audio recordings and

[FRIAM] Obligatory (and gratuitous?) screed about time changes.

as we all know I'm no fan of semi-annual clock changes... and I thought the Sunshine Act would put an end to that nonsense even if did fall on the "wrong side" with a year-round DST timesqew.   Looks like it is going to fail despite

Re: [FRIAM] Obligatory (and gratuitous?) screed about time changes.

uot;/ /In June 2022, the U.S. House failed to pass the bill, which is now stalled and scheduled to expire in December./ /Let the debate resume in March 2023./ On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 4:10 PM Steve Smith wrote: as we all know I'm no fan of semi-annual clock changes... a

Re: [FRIAM] Obligatory (and gratuitous?) screed about time changes.

ssing such a law feels like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Or maybe complaining about how a reporter discussing Putin mispronounces "nukular" ... an odd thing to complain about while the ICBM heads your way. On 11/4/22 15:17, S

Re: [FRIAM] Obligatory (and gratuitous?) screed about time changes.

Sat, Nov 5, 2022 at 10:18 AM Steve Smith wrote: Good one Carl/Ken ... And don't even get me started on converting calendars and clocks to *metric* (y'all know how much I prefer fractions over decimals for everyday measures and calculations). As  a child, WWV was

[FRIAM] gone Meta on Twitter, GoodReads, etc.

#x27;d forgotten about this until the release yesterday: https://joinbookwyrm.com/ On 11/2/22 14:52, Steve Smith wrote: On 11/2/22 9:43 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote: Thanks, Glen. It would be nice if there were a public bibliographic reference url that one could use to name a book that only conve

Re: [FRIAM] gone Meta on Twitter, GoodReads, etc.

) in this random, reflective maundering... In short... "sadly you are right". On November 6, 2022 5:51:40 PM EST, Steve Smith wrote: Trying to understand BookWyrm vs StoryGraph vs GoodReads and Twitter vs Mastadon (and beyond), I found this aggregator of alternative rec

[FRIAM] Essentialism, Praedicamenta, Katēgoriai and Category Theory?

In my fumbling about in Essentialism,  I backed into the (implied to me) question of whether Aristotle's /Katēgoriai/ in any way presaged or set the stage for the formal mathematics of Category Theory and if his /Praedicamenta/ was in some way an Ontology of Epistemology? I'm guessing that the

Re: [FRIAM] Essentialism, Praedicamenta, Katēgoriai and Category Theory?

SG wrote: FWIW, related to you're wquery, my tabs open on my ECP-SJC flight are related to attempting to formalize my babble of "The Dual of a Model" in bidirectional path tracing. "Opposite Category" with associated links is my current dive :-) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposite_categ

[FRIAM] Getting Verbed...

ple of free speech. You really are free to turn open source and open protocol to your weirdo subculture. We just don't have to link to you. Don't think 'twitter-like'. Think 'decentralized'. On November 6, 2022 5:51:40 PM EST, Steve Smith wrote: Trying to u

Re: [FRIAM] Getting Verbed...

have a chance to do /something / other than complain about other people and be in campaign mode all the time I get news'd a retarded poloticioned (so poloticion.) your a senator that's 900 years old acting like a 3 year old eh? congrats on being a waste of air. On Mon, Nov 7, 2022

Re: [FRIAM] Getting Verbed...

cular globalism as more of platform for the next fresh mode of complexity to emerge. The words I use (I think for the same thing) are exploration vs. exploitation, which roughly correspond to the union and the confederacy and their modern equivalents. -----Original Message- From: Friam On

Re: [FRIAM] For scifi fans

On 11/9/22 6:49 PM, glen wrote: https://www.nature.com/nature/articles?type=futures Good share... thanks What is often more fascinating to me than Speculative Fiction itself (though I always appreciate such which speculates on the topic of "what it is to be human...  when/if/as?") is that w

Re: [FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter

, November 16, 2022 8:39 AM > To: friam@redfish.com > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter > > More Billionaire news [sigh]: > > What happened at Alameda Research > https://milkyeggs.com/?p=175 > > On 10/31/22 10:28, Steve Smith wrote: >&

[FRIAM] Fwd: (not) leaving Twitter

Of course I did... doh! Forwarded Message Subject:Re: [FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2022 09:22:48 -0800 From: glen To: Steve Smith I think you intended to send this to the list? On 11/17/22 09:13, Steve Smith wrote: On 11/17/22 9:32

Re: [FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter

Eric/Roger - I appreciate your personal anecdotes re:LANB.   I think it was a shining star in it's own way.  I have known people who worked there over the decades and have known a few of the families of the principles including a couple who acted as personal assistant/caretakers for the Cowan'

Re: [FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter

On 11/17/22 3:28 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: Hmm, credit unions were designed to not be in competition with banks, and so they don't get very big,h and don't have access to deeper pockets of funding, and don't get gobbled up by bigger banks, and don't get closed because their service areas unde

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: (not) leaving Twitter

of technological (including political/administrative/etc.) changes and some of the implications for how *relevant* those arcs/combinatorics are for my lifetime and for the choices I am making for myself and those I care about (which ultimately includes "everybody" in some

Re: [FRIAM] collective sheepishness

Roger - From hackernews https://www.nature.com/articles/s41567-022-01769-8 corrected link from comments to "Sheep flocks alternate their leader and achieve collective intelligence" The secret sauce of american democracy. -- rec -- I wasn't able to read the (paywall) article, but was intrigued

Re: [FRIAM] collective sheepishness

Not Sheep, but human societies, have done similar things in our collective past. David Graeber's book, the Origin of Everything, details the multiplicity of organizational and governmental forms and poses the question of how did we get stuck in the one we have now. davew It does seem no

Re: [FRIAM] models

DaveW - The central question: is there a difference between a 'model' of something and a 'theory' of something? After reading your full description of your question and Eric's own maunderings on (a tangent to?) the topic, I am both (over)full of thoughts and at a loss. To me: a model is a

Re: [FRIAM] technical notes on fusion announcement

Great synopsis... thanks. I'm fascinated at how long we've been "on the cusp" of "lighting up" a micro-star in the laboratory. My first awareness was in the early 70s when a Radio Engineer I worked with had just come from the early MFE Livermore efforts to my tiny hometown AM RAdio station..

Re: [FRIAM] technical notes on fusion announcement

I think DT refers simply to the remaining fraction of Deuterium/Tritium remaining after the reaction event (-4%) without specific accounting for remaining D vs T. My understanding is that D-T  fusion occurs at a lower temperature than D-D but that once fusion commences (starting with D-T), bot

Re: [FRIAM] technical notes on fusion announcement

h-of-arrw-hypersonic-missile/ On Dec 13, 2022, at 10:16 AM, Steve Smith wrote: Great synopsis... thanks. I'm fascinated at how long we've been "on the cusp" of "lighting up" a micro-star in the laboratory. My first awareness was in the early 70s when a Radio

Re: [FRIAM] technical notes on fusion announcement

s.llnl.gov/news/magnetized-targets-boost-nif-implosion-performance https://spie.org/news/nuclear-fusion-nifs-hall-of-mirrors-may-solve-worlds-energy-crisis?SSO=1 https://www.science.org/content/article/fusion-power-may-run-fuel-even-gets-started https://a

Re: [FRIAM] Who wrote the essay?

OK... who will take on the job of training chatGPT with the top dozen FriAM characters and subscribing these digital doppelganger/shadow-selves to the list to weigh in every time their human counterpart is too slow to throw their hat in the ring?   Sounds like a job for Dr. StrangeCartoonLove? 

Re: [FRIAM] For Steve Smith eta all re gadgets reviewing

Gil - congrats on your upgraded palmtop, external keyboard, trackball and all!   When I saw the name (Note10) I thought maybe it was technically a Phablet (is that even a contemporary term?  how big does a phone (or small a tablet) have to be to be a phablet?) I'd probably go for a phablet if

[FRIAM] Academia.edu

ow anything more about them?  Have your own experiences? <https://www.academia.edu/> PREMIUM 62 papersmention Steve Smith Including one Artificial Intelligence paper * Don't miss a single Mention * Track your growing reput

[FRIAM] PostHumanism/Modernism/Anthropocene

Here's my latest positive hit from Academia Countdown to Extinction? - Posthumanism in Science Fiction Raoul Guariguata https://www.academia.edu/2061036/Countdown_to_Extinction_Posthumanism_in_Science_Fiction I could rattle on for pages about my take on this, but the short version is that I f

Re: [FRIAM] PostHumanism/Modernism/Anthropocene

nice place for sea creatures to hide, and a good concrete foundation for a bike lane on piers.  So quiet it would be without the cars.  Bring on the sea level rise! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 20, 2022, at 2:43 PM, Steve Smith wrote: Here's my latest positive hit from Academia

Re: [FRIAM] PostHumanism/Modernism/Anthropocene

27;s Dissertation and it looks like he is still at Heidelberg U. where he matriculated  I may penetrate *their* arcane website to find it from the direct source... - Steve On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 3:43 PM Steve Smith wrote: Here's my latest positive hit from Academia Countdo

Re: [FRIAM] technical notes on fusion announcement

rs-may-solve-worlds-energy-crisis?SSO=1 https://www.science.org/content/article/fusion-power-may-run-fuel-even-gets-started https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/12/what-enabled-the-big-boost-in-fusion-energy-announced-this-week/ O

Re: [FRIAM] technical notes on fusion announcement

On 12/23/22 7:47 PM, Prof David West wrote: Instead of a cable - maybe Tesla’s unrealized broadcast technology? I don’t remember the details but he was going to send power from Long Island, via the ionosphere, to light the world expo in Paris. How could that ever go wrong? What kinds of upgr

[FRIAM] Merry Xmas from AI-Art mashup

For all you AI-Art wonks...    I especially loved the Frida Kahlo segment... https://twitter.com/jblefevre60/status/1606015214264193028 -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursday

Re: [FRIAM] Friday AM

OPT Cafe is closed as well. What a way to run a business this is peak Family dining out Time. A new phase of customer service seems to have emerged after COVID.   I have ambiguous feelings about it.   Previously I was a little offended by various examples of businesses not catering well at a

Re: [FRIAM] Friday AM

;satisficing" vs "optimising"  in my 30s which was a significant relief, and allowed more degrees of freedom in my optimization/satisficing intentions/habits. "Good enough for who it's for" is a much better mantra, IMO than the usual "... for government work&quo

Re: [FRIAM] Friday AM

I recently watched a documentary on the animals living in Chernobyl, environs and nearby evacuated villages.   The overall theme was that while there was lots of evidence of genetic damage and mutation in individuals, they were still "healthy populations" of many (all?) species finding new bala

Re: [FRIAM] keep getting mice.

Gil -  To misquote Leonard Cohen: "There is a crack in everything, that is how the mice get in". I have lived with mouse-flux all of my time in my current (rural)property 20 years).  The mice (and ground squirrels and packrats) in the environs require that I remain vigilant to keep them liv

Re: [FRIAM] Friday AM

Eric - I like your introduction of "some kind of Ambivalence Frontier"... I think this also expresses itself in the "close races" we have in politics these days... a vague correlate to what happens with high-scoring competitive games (like basketball) which often end up in close calls with a

Re: [FRIAM] keep getting mice.

ng not Human and barks or tries to hunt them. I've read tht ferrets can make preem pets, as long as you can keep them from getting bored. I think Santa Fe isn't fond of people having them forpets something about birds. On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 2:18 PM Steve Smith wrote: Gil

Re: [FRIAM] keep getting mice.

nt they might ingest might not be more than a minor annoyance? Mouse-flux is at least as annoying as Daylight Savings time changes...   but a source of endless discussion nevertheless! _ Cody Smith _ c...@simtable.com On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 2:18 PM Steve Smith wrote: Gil -  To

Re: [FRIAM] Friday AM

ems all lined up with a smile behind Jeffries... Soon enough it will get old though... On 1/3/23 12:08, Steve Smith wrote: What part of telomeric erosion/degradation/consumption and/or accumulated genetic damage via toxins and ionizing radiation (over a lifetime)seems like pseudoscience?  I

Re: [FRIAM] more bullsh¡t

AI, Teaching, and "Our Willingness to Give Bullshit a Pass" https://dailynous.com/2023/01/05/ai-teaching-and-our-willingness-to-give-bullshit-a-pass/ The first time I heard this argument was from these guys: https://www.audible.com/pd/Pill-Pod-104-AI-the-New-Crisis-of-Humanities-Education-P

Re: [FRIAM] new thermal tech

Gary Schiltz wrote: Amusing indeed (the PV magazine article). The pump “reportedly produces 3 kW to 4 kW of heat for every kilowatt of power it consumes”. Say what? this is just the typical way that a "heat pump" works, not by creating the energy in the power, just by concentrating it... ejec

Re: [FRIAM] Deep learning training material

I was hoping this article would have more meat to it, but the main point seems highly relevant to a practical/introductory workshop such as the one you are developing: The Need for Interpretable Features: Taxonomy and Motivation https://scitechd

Re: [FRIAM] Deep learning training material

ng similarities in the "hand" of the artisans involved. But AI could well be a powerful tool in assisting the humans? On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 at 18:50, Steve Smith wrote: I was hoping this article would have more meat to it, but the main point seems highly relevant to a practical/int

[FRIAM] unrest in SoAm & Global ideological/sociopolitical/economic alignment...

GaryS, et al  - I was recently trying to make a little more sense of the larger sociopolitical situation across central/south America and realized that your location in Ecuador might provide some useful parallax. https://www.as-coa.org/articles/2023-elections-latin-america-preview I was (

Re: [FRIAM] unrest in SoAm & Global ideological/sociopolitical/economic alignment...

ly 2000s) is that Latin America has always been dirt poor, just like the more developed world wants it to be. First under the thumb of the USA and USSR/Russia, and now China. No wonder dictators thrive here. On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 1:31 PM Steve Smith wrote: GaryS, et al - I was recently tr

Re: [FRIAM] unrest in SoAm & Global ideological/sociopolitical/economic alignment...

ikipedia.org/wiki/Anocracy#Human_rights I was *expecting* Russia to show as a "closed anocracy", and more of Latin America as "open anocracies" but that probably just demonstrates how unfamiliar I am with the term...  maybe "defective Democracy" fits bette

Re: [FRIAM] unrest in SoAm & Global ideological/sociopolitical/economic alignment...

WII era. I'll try to break out of these darned bubbles :-) On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 12:33 PM Steve Smith wrote: Gary - Thanks for the on-the-ground response from the "middle of the world".  I realize(d) you (like all of us) live in a bubble and I appreciate your acknowledging t

Re: [FRIAM] unrest in SoAm & Global ideological/sociopolitical/economic alignment...

nervous system" and monitor (and manipulate... see discussions here on chatGPT for example) individual (and therefore also collective) behaviours has risen significantly since my time in this business (trying to be righteous with it at the time) in the first decade of this century... O

Re: [FRIAM] Dope slaps, anyone? Text displaying correctly?

DaveW wrote: I do not know and have not read Feferman, so this may be totally off base, but ... glen stated: /Worded one way: Schema are the stable patterns that emerge from the particulars. And the variation of the particulars is circumscribed (bounded, defined) by the schema. / This is a d

Re: [FRIAM] Dope slaps, anyone? Text displaying correctly?

Glen wrote: I *think* that works. Ordinarily, I react badly to hyper-formality. But one reason to formalize is so that we can be agnostic about the origins of some thing, abstracting it from the world. Whether an ultra-abstracter like Peirce would support the historical/scholarly logging of wh

Re: [FRIAM] Morning Coffee thought: Good time for global warming bingo

Good idea. I like Ecological catastrophe better. It is more broad, and includes some of the big ones like anthropogenic extinction. I have a game at my house that you could borrow. It is called CIA. The point of the game is to respond to major crises around the globe, many of which are political

Re: [FRIAM] Morning Coffee thought: Good time for global warming bingo

Glen Sed: Not weather, per se. Via HackerNews: The Ecological Catastrophe You’ve Never Heard Of https://nautil.us/the-ecological-catastrophe-youve-never-heard-of-257291/ Shaiza! Among this collection (not to undervalue the headlining story) is the "Great Forgetting"

Re: [FRIAM] NickC channels DaveW

On 1/17/23 1:08 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: Dogs have about 500 million neurons in their cortex. Neurons have about 7,000 synaptic connections, so I think my dog is a lot smarter than a billion parameter LLM. :-) And I bet (s)he channels *at least* one FriAM member's affect pretty well also!

Re: [FRIAM] NickC channels DaveW

nsive with a verbose person like you! 8^D I can imagine some veerrryyy long prompts. On 1/17/23 12:57, Steve Smith wrote: On 1/17/23 1:08 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: Dogs have about 500 million neurons in their cortex.  Neurons have about 7,000 synaptic connections, so I think my dog is a lot sm

Re: [FRIAM] NickC channels DaveW

Sadly, there are some hidden elements to all that techno-optimism. E.g. https://nitter.cz/billyperrigo/status/1615682180201447425#m sounds like the "woke mob" is interfering with patriotic bestial pedophiles who are just exercising their first, second, maybe fifth and just in case, th

Re: [FRIAM] NickC channels DaveW

That might qualify as a DDOS attack. I'm suspecting they already had my "number" when they responded to my attempt to sign up with "sorry, too busy, try back later"... On Jan 18, 2023, at 7:03 AM, Steve Smith wrote: I suppose pouring all of the FriAM

[FRIAM] Divergent Optimism

I coined a new subject to relieve DaveW from having to see his name over and over... I'm sympathetic with *all* the points of view expressed here, though not always simultaneously ;) As /homo faber/ and /homo sapiens/, it is natural that we have instincts and cultural habits around "making"

Re: [FRIAM] Divergent Optimism

my thinking about what qualifies for consistence?) /"The universe is flux, life is opinion"/ - Marcus Aurelius Stumble,   - Steve On 1/19/23 10:05 AM, Steve Smith wrote: I coined a new subject to relieve DaveW from having to see his name over and over... I'm sympatheti

Re: [FRIAM] Divergent Optimism

#x27;t spoken in a few years, and then it was mostly her telling me how dangerous/crazy Covid vaccines were and how much Covid was a "hoax" (before that it could have been chemtrails and alien DNA spliced into apes to create humans)... I hope others throw down on the larger topic here..

Re: [FRIAM] Divergent Optimism

Glen - That's why I mentioned it, and focused on the word "simulation". To me, the parallel worlds conceptions are *covered* by David Lewis' possible worlds. More homework... thanks! When I said that in the pub the other night, some rando objected and claimed his PhD thesis (at St. Martin's)

Re: [FRIAM] Turning Psychology into a Social Science

On 1/24/23 3:55 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote: I am currently browsing the millions of books in the Berlin state library. They have so many books that they are a "closed stack" library where you have to order every book you want to read (unlike most open-stack university libraries). One of the books

Re: [FRIAM] Turning Psychology into a Social Science

voices, then there can be "mental illness". If you really don't have an unstated premise about mental norms or somesuch, and any mental state can be just as OK as any other mental state, then it refutes it by nonsense. No "mental illness" means no way to bind it to the soci

Re: [FRIAM] serious AI question

DaveW , et al- Fascinating concept and not far from some of the maunderings I went through when I read Snow Crash (Stephenson) and Jayne's Bicameral Mind theo

Re: [FRIAM] mindfulness mode

/ / / "What are you trying to do to me Glen?"/// https://inspirobot.me/mindfulnessmode I'm unilaterally against posting URLs without any kind of summary or qualifier. But this one simply must be experienced to be understood. I asked *my* favorite AI assistant to generate a response to this

Re: [FRIAM] mindfulness mode

ds the sickest memes? Who delivers the snarkiest snark? Which guru best evokes your outrage homunculus? So, yeah, best not to leave such things on for background noise. But the same applies to your white noise generator ... or whatever it is you might be currently crushing on. The dose

Re: [FRIAM] mindfulness mode

I also appreciate the reference to the "dose is the poison" which jives/jibes well with the  ideation that "our allergies are our addictictions"... before anyone else notices/comments, I suppose a "addictiction" an addiction with an added "tic"! -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-.

Re: [FRIAM] Datasets as Experience

DaveW - I really don't know much of/if anything really about these modern AIs, beyond what pops up on the myriad popular science/tech feeds that are part of *my* training set/source.   I studied some AI in the 70s/80s and then "Learning Classifier Systems" and (other) Machine Learning techniq

Re: [FRIAM] Datasets as Experience

... Rather than posit that these models don't have semantics, I'd posit *we* don't have semantics. The problem with communication is the illusion that it exists. I don't think I know what you mean by these statements? -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. .

Re: [FRIAM] Datasets as Experience

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/08/31/illusion/ Is that irony? Degeneracy? Define "semantics"! >8^D degenerate, recursive irony  up the down rabbithole through the looking glass all the way down... My first memory of appreciating this was when I was introduced to Bertrand Russ

Re: [FRIAM] Datasets as Experience

I've been in long-standing confusion about the meaning of "ethics". And almost without fail, if/when I say that to a group of people, particularly men, everyone jumps in and explains to me what they think it means. As for "mansplaining", I find that there is a different mode (I find it

[FRIAM] Nick's Categories

Might I offer some terminology reframing, or at least ask for some additional explication? 1. I think "behaviours" would be all Nick's Martians *could* observe?  They would be inferring "experiences" from observed behaviours? 2. When we talk about "categories" here, are we talking about "c

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's Categories

On 2/16/23 11:26 AM, glen wrote: I don't grok the context well enough to equivocate on concepts like "have" and "category of being". But in response to Nick's question: "What is there that animals do that demands us to invent categories to explain their behavior?", my answer is "animals discre

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's Categories

there *is* some sophistry behind the question, similar to EricC's incredulous response to DaveW's question about phenomenological composition of experience(s). What I find missing in Nick's (and EricC's) distillation of experience monism is an account of the seemingly analogous

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's Categories

ff. Even if my "imagining" seems entirely within the bounds of my skull, it's still body stuff. It's still tool-mediated, even if the mediation occurs longitudinally, through time/training. I just have no idea what you guys mean by "mental stuff". On 2/17/23 07:43

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's Categories

;pile of dirt" covered in "a pile of rocks" the rocks are there to keep the coyotes and ravens and humans from "trampling" the gravesite? I'm probably just muddying this mudpile of dirt by trampling through it repeatedly? On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 10:47 AM St

[FRIAM] tangent on dirt unto soil , pile unto patch, nematode unto jellyfish

Great find. Thanks. I will read that. It was pretty damned dense for me, no more probably than OOO itself, and being something of a critique the complexity is compounded for me a little.   I definitely was drawn in by the poetic title: "Extruding Intentionality from the Metaphysical Flux"...

[FRIAM] Tangents and the Hamiltonian of News/Cultural Narratives

quirrels. >> >> But Nick does follow that question with this "experience" nonsense. So my >> guess is there *is* some sophistry behind the question, similar to EricC's >> incredulous response to DaveW's question about phenomenologica

Re: [FRIAM] tangent on dirt unto soil , pile unto patch, nematode unto jellyfish

Merle - What meaning do you give to the word "boundary"?  Time, location, etc.? Good point... that is perhaps the key to why I resist the term, it is usually offered to me registered on one of those singular dimensions...   while I perhaps perceive it as the superposition of multiple dimens

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