Re: [FRIAM] tolerance of intolerance

Forgive me, but it seems to me incomprehensible that anyone could believe that "no one is above the law." How many laws explicitly exempt members of Congress? How many do not apply to members of the armed forces when carrying out their official duties? Similarly, with police. Can anyone point

Re: [FRIAM] Does Dusty Love Dave, and VV.

From the beginning, I believed this thread was, in substantial part, Nick's attempt to 'teach' us to think as behavioralists and see how far we could go in achieving some kind of consensus. I tried very hard to couch all of my responses in such terms. I did express, early on, that I had serious

Re: [FRIAM] Does Dusty Love Dave, and VV.

Steve, Thank you. The details with the lizard are to me suggestive of consciousness. Experiments would be essential to nail all these things down,l but these anecdotes are sufficient to explicate what we mean by it It's ok if the lizard is conscious yet incapable of love, just so long as you ag

Re: [FRIAM] Does Dusty Love Dave, and VV.

David, and all. I am trying to keep this thread as clean of the meta as I can. So I will answer your general critique on the other thread. Suffice it to say here that behaviorism is way in the rear view mirror at this point and I certainly am not trying to teach it. Suffice it to say, also, I

Re: [FRIAM] Does Dusty Love Dave, and VV.

> Dusty is conscious of Dusty. One reason: I give Jackson (my other dog) a > treat and observe body language and facial expressions exhibited by Dusty > that I interpret as, "where's mine?" This indicates to me some kind of Dusty > self-awareness/consciousness of self. **Could you say more abou

Re: [FRIAM] tolerance of intolerance

Don't want to drag this out forever, but ... The immunity decision is extraordinarily dangerous precisely because it allows a President to break the law and to ignore traditional safeguards and then to claim immunity if charges are brought against him. -- Russ Abbott Professor Emeritus, Computer

Re: [FRIAM] tolerance of intolerance

Not really. What's happened is the law has now been refined/redefined to require actions be categorized as official and unofficial. So actions that are deemed official are not against the law. Actions that are unofficial are, then, subject to traditional laws. It remains to be tried/ruled wheth

Re: [FRIAM] tolerance of intolerance

Well, as a theoretical matter, it's hard to say what would happen if Biden were to try to knock off Trump. I can't in my wildest dreams imagine that killing a political opponent would be considered to be an official act of the president. As a practical matter? No chance he would do more than fantas

Re: [FRIAM] tolerance of intolerance

As things slide off toward more and more (probability of and depth of) authoriatarian intolerance I find myself trying to reign my self back in to the question of what to do with my offense and real concern for the nation (and world):  I do I prepare to be a Schindler

Re: [FRIAM] tolerance of intolerance

glen sed: ...   I accidentally let it slip that I started my professional career developing cluster bombs for the Army. I got more than one side eye. >8^D Of course, I switched to defensive weapons at some point ... because ... well ... of course. I came to LANL (LASL) 9 years before the end

Re: [FRIAM] tolerance of intolerance

I mean ... who needs automatic rifles? A single one of our warheads would have wiped the Malheur occupiers clean off the map ... conventionally ... OK, well, not so clean. But without risk of losing any of our guys. Gary's right. We have plenty of a variety of different types of guns. The real

Re: [FRIAM] tolerance of intolerance

I think your earlier, bad-faith account, was in the right direction, though each of your last three notes has had a structure I like and take seriously. (Hard to decide what I think of, or whether I agree with, anything at this point.) But if I look at the 3-way dialogue among Thomas, the Fede

Re: [FRIAM] tolerance of intolerance

Steve - I assume your question of "how many 'political refugees' can you take in there" is rhetorical. Although the incredibly bureaucratic system here makes actually getting a long-term visa a bit of a pain in practice, it is quite straightforward if one has the resources (proven income from re

Re: [FRIAM] Why the Mystery of Consciousness Is Deeper Than We Thought

Stephen, Thank you for prompting me to respond to Dan’s scaling questionaire. I tried to when I first received it, but quit because I could not recognize my own thinking in most of the alternatives. But you have asked me to be a good sport, so here I am. If you offer me, as in Q1 a choice be

Re: [FRIAM] Dialogues with George IV: 1

In Clear Text for those who don't have MS Word in their lives... /ME:// // //My grandchild, who is 17, asks me to explain why I sometimes laugh when they say something especially wise, smart, and/or insightful. I know that it's generally not polite to laugh at people when they are not telling

Re: [FRIAM] tolerance of intolerance

If your friend would like more info I’d be glad to chat. We have no kids so that made it easier. Most of my relatives are Trumpies, so I don’t miss the holidays with them :-) On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 8:32 PM steve smith wrote: > > > Steve - I assume your question of "how many 'political refugees'