Re: [FRIAM] Abducktion

2020-08-07 Thread Barry MacKichan
Very much so. We hired a grad student a long time ago (he stayed with us until he retired). He wrote great Pascal programs. He wrote great Pascal programs in C++, and in JavaScript. The effect of your first programming language on style, idioms, and your feelings about recursion and encapsulati

Re: [FRIAM] curiosities ...

2020-08-07 Thread Barry MacKichan
There is also the context. About 2/3 of the US population cannot name the three branches of the federal government according to some poll I read about recently. My hypothesis is that you’d get similar results with any question constructed with “Trump”/“Biden” and “crime”. On 5 Aug 2020, at 14

Re: [FRIAM] Abducktion

2020-08-07 Thread Prof David West
Long time ago, as part of my cognitive anthropology studies, i had a lot of data about relationships among natural languages and programming languages (e.g. Native Hindi speakers learned Prolog, Pascal and SQL much faster than native English speakers) and between/among programming languages (e.g

Re: [FRIAM] Abducktion

2020-08-07 Thread Merle Lefkoff
I'm in Seattle hugging my 10th grader and worried about inept educational programs as the new school year begins. Very little creative thinking on the part of public school bureaucracies. Lucky for Seattle students, the citizen-elected school board is resisting the "expert" educators. https://ww

Re: [FRIAM] Abducktion

2020-08-07 Thread Frank Wimberly
In Spanish if you drop your cup you say, "See me cayó la taza". A literal word--for-word translation is "The cup fell itself on me". Some people say this is an effort to avoid responsibility. Frank --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Fri

Re: [FRIAM] Abducktion

2020-08-07 Thread Tom Johnson
Or the equally famous Spanish phrase, "The pencil broke itself." A phrase which you think I would remember. TJ Tom Johnson - t...@jtjohnson.com Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA 505.577.6482(c)

Re: [FRIAM] Abducktion

2020-08-07 Thread Gary Schiltz
Despite living in a Spanish speaking country for 12 years, I still struggle mightily with Spanish grammar. This is mainly due to laziness on my part, as well as lack of necessity to immerse myself in the language (there are a lot of English speakers here, not to mention expat groups on Facebook in

Re: [FRIAM] Abducktion

2020-08-07 Thread Angel Edward
Isn’t it a consequence of the routine use of the passive voice in Spanish as in “me gusta” instead of “yo gusto?” The passive voice is pretty much gone in textbooks but I occasionally I get objections from Spanish speakers who claim my textbook can’t be serious because I don’t use the passive v

Re: [FRIAM] Abducktion

2020-08-07 Thread Gary Schiltz
I'm no grammar expert, even in my native English, but I don't believe "me gusta el cafe" is using passive voice. It literally says "coffee pleases me". Comments, Frank? But then, I may be confused about what passive voice is. On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 5:23 PM Angel Edward wrote: > Isn’t it a conseq

Re: [FRIAM] Abducktion

2020-08-07 Thread Edward Angel
Literally it says “it pleases me” which is the passive voice leading to the question who is “it?" ___ Ed Angel Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab) Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico 1017 Sierra Pinon Sa

Re: [FRIAM] Abducktion

2020-08-07 Thread Steve Smith
I grew up with street Spanish (arroyo?) as a second language.   2/3 of my peers were descendants of Spanish (by then Mexico) settlers from the Socorro area who moved to the upper Gila watershed (San Francisco/Tularosa river confluence) whose grandparents may well have spoken no English, in spite of

Re: [FRIAM] Abducktion

2020-08-07 Thread thompnickson2
Impersonal. N Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam On Behalf Of Edward Angel Sent:

[FRIAM] Programming Languages

2020-08-07 Thread jon zingale
I figured it was time again to start an opinions on programming languages free for all. Functional rules while imperative drools. Objects are fine, but it's better to know what you are doing! -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-.

Re: [FRIAM] Abducktion

2020-08-07 Thread Stephen Guerin
On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 8:54 PM wrote: > Forgive me, but can you spell that out a bit? How does working in a > particular programming Language shape an approach to the problem. > As an example of FRIAM thread spelunking, here's a 2005 entry from the late great Mike Agar on programming languages