REC -
Glad to see someone else has tapped into this work.
I discovered Wells' Murderbot series a year ago or so and what a timely
find!
I do love the way she presents the advanced "self aiming gun turret"'s
form of self (and other) awareness.
- SAS
On 12/12/24 12:04 PM, Roger Critchlow wr
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From: Friam on behalf of glen
Date: Friday, December 13, 2024 at 11:07 AM
To: friam@redfish.com
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic Indeterminacy
This goes back to the concept of "reasoning", I guess... and that folds back on
itself because the token "reason"
all too prevalent kind of nihilism these days.
*From: *Friam on behalf of glen
*Date: *Friday, December 13, 2024 at 6:52 AM
*To: *friam@redfish.com
*Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic Indeterminacy
I know most (all?) of you don't care. But here's a conversation with Clau
propaganda. Now that is a
destructive and all too prevalent kind of nihilism these days.
From: Friam on behalf of glen
Date: Friday, December 13, 2024 at 6:52 AM
To: friam@redfish.com
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic Indeterminacy
I know most (all?) of you don't care. But her
I know most (all?) of you don't care. But here's a conversation with Claude
starting with the same prompt Pieter used with GPT. It's sad that I had to
*feed* the answer to Claude. The summary I posted earlier prompted with
Leitgeb's entire paper. Such prompt-responses tend to be more trustworth
This is such an intriguing discussion, but regrettably, I don’t have the
time to engage fully. I do, however, want to quickly address Glen's
question to me from way back at the start of this thread about my prompt on
Ramsey semantics and fuzzy logic. My prompt to ChatGPT was: "Please compare
in one
LLMs are universal interpolators. Pretty much the same thing as the
interconnected breadth of knowledge, it seems to me.
From: Friam on behalf of Prof David West
Date: Thursday, December 12, 2024 at 11:43 AM
To: friam@redfish.com
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic
6) Human life span is too limited to consume all available media.* [Twisting
glen's ideas about 'context' - no need to consume, all media is already part of
the mind-context whole. See also, "enlightenment and omniscience."]*
On Thu, Dec 12, 2024, at 1:04 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote:
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> On T
Prof David West
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> *Date: *Thursday, December 12, 2024 at 10:16 AM
> *To: *friam@redfish.com
> *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic Indeterminacy
> Thank you Roger. Fascinating read. Moravec has evolved considerably from his
> *Mind Children *(1990) days when he
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ueivjr3f8xg <_blank>
From: Friam > on behalf of Roger Critchlow
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Date: Thursday, December 12, 2024 at 8:37 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group >
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t; *Date: *Thursday, December 12, 2024 at 8:37 AM
> *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
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> *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic Indeterminacy
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> Now I really feel complicit.
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> -- rec --
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On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 11:25 AM Marcus Daniels
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> Seems there are good reasons to replace humans.
>
> 1) Humans can’t easily travel to new planets due to radiation and hostile
> environments.
> 2) Our appetite for energy is vast and our decadence unbounded. A rising
> standard of living f
up in the right way.
From: Friam on behalf of glen
Date: Thursday, December 12, 2024 at 10:42 AM
To: friam@redfish.com
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic Indeterminacy
I still feel like there's an assumption of decoupling lying in wait. Humans are
biologically enmeshed i
extending it,
e.g. AlphaFold.
*From: *Friam on behalf of Prof David West
*Date: *Thursday, December 12, 2024 at 10:16 AM
*To: *friam@redfish.com
*Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic Indeterminacy
Thank you Roger. Fascinating read. Moravec has evolved considerably from his /Min
human knowledge and extending it,
e.g. AlphaFold.
From: Friam on behalf of Prof David West
Date: Thursday, December 12, 2024 at 10:16 AM
To: friam@redfish.com
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic Indeterminacy
Thank you Roger. Fascinating read. Moravec has evolved considerably from
Thank you Roger. Fascinating read. Moravec has evolved considerably from his
*Mind Children *(1990) days when he predicted we would all be "uploaded" to
robot bodies by now.
The University where I started my teaching career, St. Thomas in St. Paul MN,
recently announced a new center https://www
ay, December 12, 2024 at 8:37 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic Indeterminacy
Now I really feel complicit.
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On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 9:34 AM Marcus Daniels mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote:
It als
: *Thursday, December 12, 2024 at 8:25 AM
> *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam@redfish.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic Indeterminacy
>
> Hans Moravec kicks off a forum,
> https://www.bostonreview.net/forum/the-ai-we-d
ct: Re: [FRIAM] Ramsification and Semantic Indeterminacy
Hans Moravec kicks off a forum,
https://www.bostonreview.net/forum/the-ai-we-deserve/
<https://www.bostonreview.net/forum/the-ai-we-deserve/>, about why the
instrumentalist computer science and AI we inherited from DARPA grants isn
Hans Moravec kicks off a forum,
https://www.bostonreview.net/forum/the-ai-we-deserve/, about why the
instrumentalist computer science and AI we inherited from DARPA grants
isn't the only possible version or the only version we need. Life is not
entirely composed of self aiming gun turrets and supp
Interesting. What was your prompt?
It's important to remember that Claude and GPT are prone to bullsh¡t. When
asked to compare apples to oranges, they will happily and confidently make the
comparison even if it's a category error. Leitgeb's footnote might be of use:
"This motivation for Ramsif
Different strokes for different okes, indeed. In my realm of AI — and
previously in control systems — fuzzy logic has been the trusty spanner for
tackling vagueness. Seeking a fresh perspective, I turned to ChatGPT, which
delivered this thoughtful comparison:
"Ramsey semantics and fuzzy logic both
https://philpapers.org/rec/LEIRAS-3
via https://mastodon.social/@dailyn...@zirk.us
I found this paper by Weinberg's post to Mastodon through the write up of
Leitbeg's projects here:
https://gepris.dfg.de/gepris/person/85399322?language=en
I didn't find any papers on scholar or philpapers talki
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