Re: [FRIAM] Can a robot have a soul?

I am conflating decentralized with distributed a bit, but they are related in that more imperfect compute elements have more possibility for just adding noise than fewer ones, if what is needed or sought is in fact simple. In other systems (e.g. a RAID array) redundancy is useful up to a point

[FRIAM] Mesoscale modeling of wildfire plume dynamics

Nick, Related to the Stormscapes paper for cloud formation dynamics, here's an extension this year by the same team for driving the heat raster from wildfire propagation: The video is enough to get the main ideas. http://computationalsciences.org/publications/haedrich-2021-wildfires.html -S .--

Re: [FRIAM] Can a robot have a soul?

On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 9:53 PM Marcus Daniels wrote: > There seems to be individual differences in how people have responded to > the longer stretches of the pandemic. Some people lost benefits from the > “open” system. They lost access to their friends or lost their cadence. > Other people d

Re: [FRIAM] Can a robot have a soul?

On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 9:42 PM wrote: > If you mean by what you wrote, could consciousness, etc., be properties of > the organism’s (or the robot’s) relation to other objects, my answer is > emphatically YES. I hate to smear you before the rest of the group by > agreeing with you, but you’ll j

Re: [FRIAM] Can a robot have a soul?

There seems to be individual differences in how people have responded to the longer stretches of the pandemic. Some people lost benefits from the “open” system. They lost access to their friends or lost their cadence. Other people didn’t really notice so much or even liked having the conveni

Re: [FRIAM] Can a robot have a soul?

*Frank, did you study with John Searle in the 60s at Cal?* I never took a course from him but, as Nick and I have mentioned, he was important in the Free Speech Movement as a mediator between the Administration and the leaders of the Movement. As such I heard him speak on multiple occasions. I

Re: [FRIAM] Can a robot have a soul?

Hi, StephenG If you mean by what you wrote, could consciousness, etc., be properties of the organism’s (or the robot’s) relation to other objects, my answer is emphatically YES. I hate to smear you before the rest of the group by agreeing with you, but you’ll just have to fight to get your

Re: [FRIAM] Can a robot have a soul?

Jochen, The Chinese have a famous thought experiment called the "John Searle Room" (虚构研究员, 1984). Take the living John Searle, and place him in a sealed closed room. In a short time, he is no longer alive, has no cognition, no consciousness, and certainly no soul. Place a common conception of a

Re: [FRIAM] Can a robot have a soul?

Oxygen, hydrogen, nitrogen, carbon, calcium, phosphorus, sulfur, potassium, sodium, chlorine, magnesium, plus some trace elements. On Sep 18, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote:  Yeah, stuff. But what kind of stuff are we? While physics tries to examine the most fundamental stuff and elemen

Re: [FRIAM] Can a robot have a soul?

Yeah, stuff. But what kind of stuff are we? While physics tries to examine the most fundamental stuff and elementary particles, psychology has the most interesting types of stuff, if "personality" is the stuff that personal characters are made of. There are countless individual and path-dependen

Re: [FRIAM] Can a robot have a soul?

Not sure why he got 15 minutes of fame. I guess he was confident as he talked in circles over and over. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2021, at 3:00 PM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote:  He was the guy who was the interface between the Berkeley administration and the Students in “Red” square d

Re: [FRIAM] Can a robot have a soul?

He was the guy who was the interface between the Berkeley administration and the Students in “Red” square during the Free Speech Movement. Never sure whose side he was on. n Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com

Re: [FRIAM] Can a robot have a soul?

No substance, just a higher order pattern of doing. N Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam On Behalf Of Jochen Fromm Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 4:44 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Comp

Re: [FRIAM] Can a robot have a soul?

Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam On Behalf Of Jochen Fromm Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 4:44 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: [FRIAM] Can a robot have a s

Re: [FRIAM] Can a robot have a soul?

I heard Searle speak multiple times when he was a "young assistant professor" and I was a senior at UC Berkeley. But the topic was the Free Speech Movement not the question of "can a machine think" which he has written about for years. On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 3:24 PM Gary Schiltz wrote: > Great

Re: [FRIAM] Can a robot have a soul?

Great Searle videos. I knew his name, but had never listened to him. On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 3:57 PM Marcus Daniels wrote: > We are just stuff and stuff can be simulated.. on quantum computers if > necessary. > > > On Sep 18, 2021, at 1:45 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote: > > > >  > > I have watched Jo

Re: [FRIAM] Can a robot have a soul?

We are just stuff and stuff can be simulated.. on quantum computers if necessary. > On Sep 18, 2021, at 1:45 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote: > >  > I have watched John Searle videos on YouTube today and stumbled upon the > question of personality again. If we assume that there is a special substance

[FRIAM] Can a robot have a soul?

I have watched John Searle videos on YouTube today and stumbled upon the question of personality again. If we assume that there is a special substance that makes us a person, can an advanced robot or AI acquire it? Can a robot be lazy, diligent, dull, intelligent, friendly, nit-picky or even cre

Re: [FRIAM] That was fun!

> Also, for the nerds in the group. This pic may document the most > overdue purchase of one of those ever: > Is that a broccoli corsage on your coat?  And why do you look like Mark Hamill?

Re: [FRIAM] That was fun!

Those are very useful. You should have one. On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 3:01 PM wrote: > I can buy this car travel adapter for 16 bucks and it will come tomorrow. > Shall I bite? > > > > > https://www.amazon.com/Buywhat-Inverter-Converter-Adapter-Computer/dp/B07QPS15YK/ref=sr_1_11?dchild=1&keywo