Jochen, The Chinese have a famous thought experiment called the "John Searle Room" (虚构研究员, 1984).
Take the living John Searle, and place him in a sealed closed room. In a short time, he is no longer alive, has no cognition, no consciousness, and certainly no soul. Place a common conception of a robot in the same closed room (not isolated) and it will continue to function. According to Searle's Chinese Room <https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/chinese-room/>, the robot as a mere symbol manipulator has no true cognition, no understanding. Nor does it display consciousness nor a soul. We've come to understand living processes as necessarily open and far-from-equilibrium with "life" being a decentralized property of the system. MIght cognition, consciousness, and soul (however defined) as higher-level properties necessarily be decentralized properties, too? - Stephen P.S. Didn't realize John Searle had his Emeritus status stripped from UC Berkeley for violating the Sexual Harassment policy <https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/katiejmbaker/john-searle-complaints-uc-berkeley>. Frank, did you study with John Searle in the 60s at Cal? On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 2:45 PM Jochen Fromm <j...@cas-group.net> wrote: > I have watched John Searle videos on YouTube today and stumbled upon the > question of personality again. If we assume that there is a special > substance that makes us a person, can an advanced robot or AI acquire it? > Can a robot be lazy, diligent, dull, intelligent, friendly, nit-picky or > even creative? John Searle would probably say it is not a good question... > https://youtu.be/Bq2bfSzkTfU > > I would say the answer is yes, because if the special substance is simply > the personality or persistent character of a person, there is no reason why > a robot should not be able to learn a bundle of typical behavior patterns > (i.e. special mappings between perceptions and actions) that are > characteristic for a person, even if this behavior is implemented totally > differently. The resulting personality helps to define and maintain the > identity of a person > https://youtu.be/WwipmspceOU > > What do you think? Is there a special substance that makes us a person, > and can an advanced robot or AI acquire it? > > -J. > > > .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: > 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >
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