Re: [Freedos-user] DOS app repositories

thanks to all. thanks freedos !!! El vie., 20 dic. 2024 20:21, victoria crenshaw via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> escribió: > ill add and test these in my fdpget script > > > > On Fri, 2024-12-20 at 18:12 +0100, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > > I noticed

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS app repositories

ill add and test these in my fdpget script On Fri, 2024-12-20 at 18:12 +0100, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: > > Hi! > > I noticed FreeDOS.org links a few interesting DOS app repositories: > > Our link to https://reimagery.com/fsfd/unix.htm is 404 now, but... > > https://dosprograms.info.

[Freedos-user] DOS app repositories

Hi! I noticed FreeDOS.org links a few interesting DOS app repositories: Our link to https://reimagery.com/fsfd/unix.htm is 404 now, but... https://dosprograms.info.tt/ (note the updated URL) is quite nice :-) Categories are sound (including mpxplay, opencp, xtcplay, several midi and cd playe

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

Hi there, On Mon, 21 Oct 2024, Liam Proven via Freedos-user wrote: On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 at 23:45, G.W. Haywood via Freedos-user wrote: ... DOS introduced the idea of packaged software to the world I'd argue that was CP/M in the previous decade (the 1970s). ... You have a point, although I'd

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 at 23:45, G.W. Haywood via Freedos-user wrote: > > What would be the point? DOS introduced the idea of packaged software > to the world I'd argue that was CP/M in the previous decade (the 1970s). I own packaged CP/M software, bought used (I am old but not that old) but it was

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

DM&P who make the Vortex86 CPUs, chipsets, SOMs, and some of the other designs are Taiwanese. PCBWay is Chinese but the weeCee designs are on github. If you have another way of printing the PCBs, you're not restricted to PCBWay. Over the last 15 years, there's been several DM&P/Vortex86 based de

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

> On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 02:19:51PM +0200, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: > >Hi Michał, > >> Hi, >> >> > I'm still looking for an inexpensive X86 type SBC that can be used to >> build a dos only machine. >> >> I have one word for you - weeCee. > >This is interesting, sort of a DIY designed d

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

Hi Michał, Hi, > I'm still looking for an inexpensive X86 type SBC that can be used to build a dos only machine. I have one word for you - weeCee. This is interesting, sort of a DIY designed device: https://www.pcbway.com/project/shareproject/weeCee___Tiny_DOS_Gaming_PC.html https://ci

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

On 18/10/2024 21:43, tsie...@softcon.com wrote: Won't work.  Dos itself uses a *lot* of interrupt calls to do things. The raspberry pies run processors that don't support interrupts. Therefore, porting a stand-alone version of dos to the pie just won't work. That's not really what I meant, and

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

Hi, > I'm still looking for an inexpensive X86 type SBC that can be used to build a dos only machine. I have one word for you - weeCee. Best regards, Michał Dec W dniu 19.10.2024 o 21:37, Mateusz Viste via Freedos-user pisze: On 18/10/2024 21:43, tsie...@softcon.com wrote: Won't work.  Dos

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

Hi there, On Sat, 19 Oct 2024, Liam Proven via Freedos-user wrote: ... DOS is deeply tied to the x86-16 CPU model, with some x86-32 extensions. It is not meaningfully possible to create anything usefully like DOS for an Arm chip. What would be the point? DOS introduced the idea of packaged s

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

 WEAR ANIMALS,nor do not pay  Their Murderers & oppressors,please. Shalom/Peace/Shanti/Mier/Nyugalom. ...   Original Message   From: Mateusz Viste via Freedos-user.‎ Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2024 21:56.‎ To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. Cc: Mateusz Viste Subject: Re: [Freedos-u

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

On Fri, 18 Oct 2024 at 21:24, tsiegel--- via Freedos-user wrote: > Won't work. Dos itself uses a *lot* of interrupt calls to do things. Er, kinda sorta, ish, but this is not a useful statement in any way I can interpret. It's a bit like saying, er, "boats use a *lot* of propellers so you can't

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

Useless. end of life, and over 100 bucks, neither one of which is my target goal for building dos based devices with SBC components. Good catch though, they could have been helpful had I known about them 10 years ago. On 10/19/2024 8:54 AM, G.W. Haywood via Freedos-user wrote: Hi there, On

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

Hi! The Raspberry Pi idea seems like far more work than necessary.  All the more reason for choices.  So that those who can explore this door can, but those who  want access to freedos on hardware can enjoy this as well. The lack of a keyboard made this a nonstarter  as far as I am concerned.

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

Hi there, On Sat, 19 Oct 2024, tsiegel--- via Freedos-user wrote: ... That one the guys on that forum made is (currently) the only one I've found that doesn't cost more than 100 bucks for an X86 SBC capable of running dos. ... I don't know if you're looking for something you can buy off the

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

Far be it for me to judge creative expression. still I recall the goal of Mike I believe where dos and accessibility is concerned. Between computers put aside because someone decided they were out of date. desire for independence. Ease of putting the access together and so forth? The Raspb

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

Yeah, all of the x86 single board computers are well over the $100 mark, and some are as high as 400, so that's a nonstarter.  I have yet to find one that is an X86 SBC for a lower price point. If I was going to spend 400 bucks, I'd not bother with a single board computer, I'd get a real one.

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

Hi! Just to clarify: I am *not* planning to transform a RPi into a standalone "DOS computer that talks". That was Eric's idea. A perfectly valid idea with possible practical applications, but outside of my specific interest. Not transform. You run DOS in an emulator. Only the emulator runs

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS-SBCs.

d.com ...   Original Message   From: tsiegel--- via Freedos-user.‎ Sent: Friday, October 18, 2024 22:24.‎ To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. Cc: tsie...@softcon.com Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi. On 10/18/2024 o8:07 AM, Mateusz Viste via Freedos-user wrote: > >

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

On 10/18/2024 8:07 AM, Mateusz Viste via Freedos-user wrote: I am *not* planning to transform a RPi into a standalone "DOS computer that talks". That was Eric's idea. A perfectly valid idea with possible practical applications, but outside of my specific interest. Won't work.  Dos itself us

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

Hi there, On Fri, 18 Oct 2024, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: ... To bump a related topic: DOSEMU2 does work on ARM64 hardware, but their Ubuntu packages do not run on a Raspberry Pi PC out of the box. If somebody is bored, it would be nice to have pre-compiled Rasbperry Pi OS Linux DEB or FL

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

Hi Mateusz, hi FreeDOS people, thank you for creating that emulation of the speech part of Braille n Speak :-) http://emubns.sourceforge.net Question about the other half, are components of Braille displays freely available? Like single char parts, similar to 7-segment LED numbers, only wit

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

On 18/10/2024 03:29, Mike Coulombe via Freedos-user wrote: Hey, that sounds promising. So was that dos install software speech or did you have a newer braille an speak connected? The only braille an speak I know about is the one I use to have in the late eighties. I do not own any Braille 'n S

[Freedos-user] Dos on raspberry pi.

Hey, that sounds promising. So was that dos install software speech or did you have a newer braille an speak connected? The only braille an speak I know about is the one I use to have in the late eighties. Anyway, if this is all software speech, could it work on a regular laptop? This gave me a

[Freedos-user] DOS packet drivers and NDIS wrappers

Hi! Here is an interesting thread about DOS networking: https://www.bttr-software.de/forum/board_entry.php?id=21820&page=0&order=time&category=0 For RealTek GbE (gigabit ethernet, LAN) there were no packet drivers on http://www.georgpotthast.de/sioux/packet.htm but a NDIS2 driver, https://driv

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS Actively Used Scenarios

Well..it goes without saying that I use DOS for all my professional and personal activities. Just had a computer put together so I can keep doing this in fact. It is much harder to get a freedos specific machine built though. Would love a laptop for example. Karen On Mon, 3 Jun 2024, Jim Ha

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS Actively Used Scenarios

> 1. The computer powers on and does a Power On Self Test ("POST") to > verify that the hardware is working, then loads the kernel (FreeDOS) Nope. The computer (the BIOS) reads the first sector from the firat hard disk, and jumps to it. Usually, but not necessarily, this happens to have some cod

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS Actively Used Scenarios

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 7:46 PM Jim Hall via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Roger wrote: > > I finished reading the "Why We Love FreeDOS" book a few nights > > ago. A really good read, and led myself to a similar conclusion, > > DOS/FreeDOS is a really good platform fo

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS Actively Used Scenarios

Roger wrote: > I finished reading the "Why We Love FreeDOS" book a few nights > ago. A really good read, and led myself to a similar conclusion, > DOS/FreeDOS is a really good platform for learning and implementing > initial experimental engineering for experimental or working hardware > due to si

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS Actively Used Scenarios

I finished reading the "Why We Love FreeDOS" book a few nights ago. A really good read, and led myself to a similar conclusion, DOS/FreeDOS is a really good platform for learning and implementing initial experimental engineering for experimental or working hardware due to simplicity and bare metal

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS Actively Used Scenarios

I love FreeDos and it s the only operating system on my opd msi computer running a quad core 2.66ghz cpu amd 4gb of ram. My main use is just programming in PowerBasic or FreeBasic, and I may sometime try C thanks to the great videos Mr Hall has on youtube. I do rarely play games, or play mp3 or m

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS Actively Used Scenarios

Hi Jim! My favorite example of someone running FreeDOS was years ago, probably around 2005. They built pinball machines, and FreeDOS ran the scoring system, lit the lights, and played sound effects from a sound bank... Maybe they used some type of lab control or GPIO type ISA or PCI card? My

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS Actively Used Scenarios

Roger wrote: > >> Would be really interesting to hear, how people continue actively using > >> DOS today, including their hardware/software environment. Of course, not > >> including testing environments, as these can get really exquisite! And, > >> I already realize one of the environments DOS is

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS Actively Used Scenarios

Just what I was looking for. Thanks! Roger > On Sat, Jun 01, 2024 at 07:47:13AM +, Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-user > wrote: >Actually, a book exists which is all about that question! :) > >Check out Why We Love FreeDOS available at https://freedos.org/books/ > >Sent with [Proton Mail](htt

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS Actively Used Scenarios

Actually, a book exists which is all about that question! :) Check out Why We Love FreeDOS available at https://freedos.org/books/ Sent with [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/) secure email. On Saturday, June 1st, 2024 at 2:51 AM, Roger via Freedos-user freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:

[Freedos-user] DOS Actively Used Scenarios

Would be really interesting to hear, how people continue actively using DOS today, including their hardware/software environment. Of course, not including testing environments, as these can get really exquisite! And, I already realize one of the environments DOS is still used, for engineering and

Re: [Freedos-user] dos navigator

On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 8:31 PM Travis Siegel via Freedos-user wrote: > > I found my copy of PTS DOS Source, and was digging through them to see > some of the differences between that and opendos, for which I also have > the sources, and I ran across the dos navigator menuing system (at least > I'm

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS diagnostic tools?

On 5/18/2024 3:56 PM, tsiegel--- via Freedos-user wrote: Does spinright still have a dos version of their software posted anywhere? I seem to recall, that was a really good utility.  I unfortunately never had the money to purchase it, and I gave up on Norton Utilities after paying 50 bucks mo

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS diagnostic tools?

Version 6.1(?) now boots USFI(?). previous versions booted FreeDOS to run SpinEite.Please see www.grc.comThis clown speaks for himselfOn May 19, 2024, at 8:30 AM, tsiegel--- via Freedos-user wrote: Yep, that's the one. On 5/19/2024 2:54 AM, Omar Yabar via Fre

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS diagnostic tools?

Yep, that's the one. On 5/19/2024 2:54 AM, Omar Yabar via Freedos-user wrote: Do you mean Spinrite? in this link there are 5 versions https://winworldpc.com/product/spinrite/1x Yahoo Mail: busca, organiza, toma el control de tu buzón

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS diagnostic tools?

Do you mean Spinrite? in this link there are 5 versions  https://winworldpc.com/product/spinrite/1x Yahoo Mail: busca, organiza, toma el control de tu buzón El sáb., 18 de may. de 2024 a la(s) 9:15 p. m., tsiegel--- via Freedos-user escribió: __

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS diagnostic tools?

hmm, let me see if I can find the edition suggested by an engineer friend of mine for the person who built this last machine. Karen On Sat, 18 May 2024, tsiegel--- via Freedos-user wrote: Does spinright still have a dos version of their software posted anywhere? I seem to recall, that was a

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS diagnostic tools?

Does spinright still have a dos version of their software posted anywhere? I seem to recall, that was a really good utility.  I unfortunately never had the money to purchase it, and I gave up on Norton Utilities after paying 50 bucks more for the advanced version of 4.5, then got the same upgra

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS diagnostic tools?

Hi everybody: Other suggestions: https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk http://www.partition-saving.com/ En miércoles, 15 de mayo de 2024, 03:46:41 CEST, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user escribió: Eric, While I will work through this list of course, you would need to reach the par

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS diagnostic tools?

Eric, While I will work through this list of course, you would need to reach the part of that Wikipedia article that talks of Norton 8, I honestly did not even start using a computer until 1989, and did not own a copy of Norton Utilities until after 200 at the earliest. I used it as an example

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS diagnostic tools?

Hi Karen, the utilities recommended by Rober To sound useful: HDAT2 harddisk repair and diagnostics ATA, ATAPI, SATA, USB, SCSI ASTRA Advanced Sysinfo Tool and Reporting Assistant HWiNFO system information, monitoring and diagnostics Do you recall the items in norton utilities? There is

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS diagnostic tools?

Hi Eric, Do you recall the items in norton utilities? If not, I can post a list of the various tools? I am hoping for a collection of options if that resonates. Norton for example lets you create a repair boot disc, which would be a fine start. that disc then had items to check your hard drive

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS diagnostic tools?

Hi, some ideas: HDAT2/CBL Hard Disk Repair Utility | | | | HDAT2/CBL Hard Disk Repair Utility HDAT2 is program for test or diagnostics of ATA/ATAPI/SATA, SSD, USB and SCSI devices. | | | ASTRA - Advanced Sysinfo Tool and Reporting Assistant | | | | | | | | | | | ASTRA

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS diagnostic tools?

Hi Karen, please specify the type of diagnostics you would be interested in. For example PCISLEEP can give you a list of PCI devices in your PC, but you seem to be interested in disk or filesystem analysis etc.? Maybe tools which display the SMART health status of your disks? I remember having

[Freedos-user] DOS diagnostic tools?

Hi folks, One stated advantage of freedos shared often is the ability to use more contemporary hardware. My hope is that there is also dos based software supporting the care and diagnostics of that infrastructure? For example, while I have Norton Utilities for DOS, it cannot see my larger dri

Re: [Freedos-user] dos navigator

On Wed, 8 May 2024, Daniel Essin via Freedos-user wrote: Try it in a VM Yeah, I would, but that's not really an option for me. On 5/8/24 6:21 PM, Travis Siegel via Freedos-user wrote: I found my copy of PTS DOS Source, and was digging through them to see some of the differences between t

Re: [Freedos-user] dos navigator

Try it in a VM On 5/8/24 6:21 PM, Travis Siegel via Freedos-user wrote: I found my copy of PTS DOS Source, and was digging through them to see some of the differences between that and opendos, for which I also have the sources, and I ran across the dos navigator menuing system (at least I'm pr

[Freedos-user] dos navigator

I found my copy of PTS DOS Source, and was digging through them to see some of the differences between that and opendos, for which I also have the sources, and I ran across the dos navigator menuing system (at least I'm pretty sure it's a menu system, don't currently have a dos machine setup an

[Freedos-user] DOS spreadsheets

We talked about this (briefly) during today's virtual get-together: I teach a few university courses, and right now is final grades time (that's why I could stay on the video call for only an hour - lots of grading) I use LibreOffice Calc to do final grades (either =LOOKUP or =VLOOKUP) but you ca

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS based mail clients

Bret Johnson said: > The second difference is that IMAP is designed > to be used in a client-server configuration where > the e-mails stay stored on the server... But they also remain in the server if the POP3 client does not send the DELE command. _

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS Mode - My Two Cente

DOS can have. GUI like Linux with things like Windows 3.x, or even the Windows 95/98 were on top of a DOS system. On Fri, 18 Aug 2023, 03:26 tsiegel--- via Freedos-user, < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Only one correction. > > Windows and MacOSX are certainly graphical by default,

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS Mode - My Two Cente

Only one correction. Windows and MacOSX are certainly graphical by default, though both have text terminals very similar to the dos prompt. On the other hand, Linux, bsd, and other unix versions are also text interfaces by default.  If you don't install a windows manager (such as gnome), the

[Freedos-user] DOS Mode - My Two Cente

I think there may be a bit of confusion we need to let new DOS users aware of, and that is DOS is a "Text-Mode" system and not graphical like Windows, Linux, MacOS, etc. DOS by nature is only text (although graphics is possible) Maybe make a distinction between "Text Resolution" and "Graphic/Scre

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos

I had FreeDOS running on a ThinkPad 701C, which used a 486 CPU. NJB On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 04:31:40PM -0500, Jim Hall via Freedos-user wrote: > On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 5:14 PM Rahim Fakir via Freedos-user > wrote: > > > > Whats The main Diference between freedos and dos. > > Which

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos

On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 5:14 PM Rahim Fakir via Freedos-user wrote: > > Whats The main Diference between freedos and dos. > Which os The best, dos freedos runs a 486? As Bryan said, FreeDOS is a more modern version of DOS. Also, FreeDOS is open source software. Very early versions of MS-DOS (v1

Re: [Freedos-user] Dos

Hi Rahim: Whats The main Diference between freedos and dos. FreeDOS is more modernised, with extended functions. -- members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/list

[Freedos-user] Dos

Whats The main Diference between freedos and dos. Which os The best, dos freedos runs a 486? ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS and PDFs (Was Re: Update wiki info on installing ftp on a virualbox guest?

There is Acrobat Reader 1.0 for MSDOS but it does not support modern PDF format. I'm sure it has evolved so much that none of the current PDFs work with it anyway. It's available though on winworldpc for download and check. If that doesn't work then I assume porting some open source to DOS is the

[Freedos-user] DOS and PDFs (Was Re: Update wiki info on installing ftp on a virualbox guest?

I think it is pretty safe to assume that everybody using FreeDOS in the last 10 to 20 years has access to another, more capable device that can read PDFs. Even low end cell phones have had this capability for the past 5 years. I started with pure TXT files, composed on the same DOS machine that I

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS was dead...

Hi, Ok sorry, got the reply later, and also the opinion I would vote for. Aitor On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 at 05:13, Jon Brase wrote: > >Apr 14, 2021 2:00:05 PM Ralf Quint : > > >And I stand by my comments that none of Windows 9x/ME is "running on > DOS". I don't have the time right now to provide t

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS was dead...

Hi Ralf, On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 at 19:11, Ralf Quint wrote: > On 4/14/2021 8:54 AM, Liam Proven wrote: > > > >> Reality is, Windows 95 dos and Windows 98SE DOS is not really dos per > se > > Wrong. > Actually, in that part, Michael was correct. And as people like you seem > to pushing that old my

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS music creation software?

Hi Rugxulo, > What about a so-called "tracker"? > > * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_tracker > > Here's a few links that I found (off the top of my head): > > * https://hornet.org/music/programs/trackers/scrmt321.zip > * https://hornet.org/music/contests/mc6/files/it214p3.zip > * https://g

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS music creation software?

Hello! If the pc speaker is alright with you, try Piano Man by Neil J. Rubenking. Best, Felix Am Do., 1. Sept. 2022 um 08:19 Uhr schrieb Mart Zirnask : > > Not sure about the keyboard part, but there was also Sound Club, an > early 90s sound editor by Skype founders Jaan Tallinn and Ahti Heinla: >

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS music creation software?

Not sure about the keyboard part, but there was also Sound Club, an early 90s sound editor by Skype founders Jaan Tallinn and Ahti Heinla: http://bluemoon.ee/history/scdos/index.html Some music made with Sound Club: http://digitiger.byethost7.com/sclub.htm?i=1 Some more details -- apparently it d

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS music creation software?

thanks for all those prospects. Perhaps I should not have used the gaming concept as a framer, figuring there were no musicians here. My goal is to use my computer keyboard as a music one in pure DOS. I have found a copy of cakewalk for DOS, but still appreciate your options too. Karen

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS music creation software?

Hi again, On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 7:46 PM Rugxulo wrote: > > What about a so-called "tracker"? > > * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_tracker > > Here's a few links that I found (off the top of my head): I forgot about Dr. Track: * http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS music creation software?

Hi, On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 11:45 AM Karen Lewellen wrote: > > I use dos, google has removed access to YouTube for low graphics browsers. > If you have an answer, care to share? The YouTube link just shows "Sound Blaster Pro Intelligent Organ" (Creative Technology, 1991). What about a so-called

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS music creation software?

I use dos, google has removed access to YouTube for low graphics browsers. If you have an answer, care to share? On Tue, 30 Aug 2022, Bj??rn Morell wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAt1rWF-kqE Den 2022-08-30 kl. 12:02, skrev Karen Lewellen: with all of the vintage gaming hinted at he

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS music creation software?

I have this Digidesign SampleCell II card hardware ISA sampler for PC. Does anyone have any experience with it? Some software? I would like to connect it to MPC Studio (hardware + software on another PC) On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 1:03 PM Björn Morell wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAt1rW

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS music creation software?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAt1rWF-kqE Den 2022-08-30 kl. 12:02, skrev Karen Lewellen: with all of the vintage gaming hinted at here, was wondering if anyone knows of a simple pure DOS program that in theory allows one to treat their computer keyboard like a music one? Need not tap dance

[Freedos-user] DOS music creation software?

with all of the vintage gaming hinted at here, was wondering if anyone knows of a simple pure DOS program that in theory allows one to treat their computer keyboard like a music one? Need not tap dance as it were, just allow for some basic work. Ideas? Karen _

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS ASM resources

Hello, On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 01:28, Rugxulo wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 5:53 PM Aitor Santamaría > wrote: > > > > On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 00:00, Rugxulo wrote: > >> > >> I can send you my local copy (or show you how to get it) of the 3.2.2 > >> cross-compiler (i8086-msdos) that work

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS ASM resources

On 7/7/2022 2:58 PM, Rugxulo wrote: DeSmet C and IA16-ELF (GCC) both work fairly well (but not necessarily every memory model). * http://desmet-c.com/ DeSmet C has only 2 memory models (small and large, the later from v3.x onwards)  and is also using its own object file format and thus linke

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS ASM resources

Hi, On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 5:53 PM Aitor Santamaría wrote: > > On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 00:00, Rugxulo wrote: >> >> I can send you my local copy (or show you how to get it) of the 3.2.2 >> cross-compiler (i8086-msdos) that works under latest HX pre-releases. >> It has a built-in assembler and linke

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS ASM resources

Hello, On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 00:00, Rugxulo wrote: > > > - Assembler - there is NASM, not compatible with MASM/WASM. I guess > there is still (J)WASM as > > alternative, as I assume that MASM/TASM haven't been neither open > sourced nor actively maintained. > > Strictly speaking, OpenWatcom

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS ASM resources

On 7/7/2022 9:59 AM, C. Masloch wrote: On at 2022-07-07 09:39 -0700, Ralf Quint wrote: Similar with NASM, where for some weird reasons, they made the assembler case-sensitive, which I would consider utter nonsense (also among my griefs with C(++)). And it really bites you if you are trying to

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS ASM resources

Hi, On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 12:50 PM Aitor Santamaría wrote: > > I haven't been following much of what happens with the different assemblers > these days, but my idea is > that the same thing as with C or Pascal happens: as much as TASM or MASM are > nice products, there > are hardly open source

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS ASM resources

Hello, I haven't been following much of what happens with the different assemblers these days, but my idea is that the same thing as with C or Pascal happens: as much as TASM or MASM are nice products, there are hardly open source actively maintained products that are compatible with them, and hen

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On at 2022-07-07 09:39 -0700, Ralf Quint wrote: Similar with NASM, where for some weird reasons, they made the assembler case-sensitive, which I would consider utter nonsense (also among my griefs with C(++)). And it really bites you if you are trying to link assembler modules with other progra

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On 7/2/2022 10:37 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: Masm, Tasm, and others all have their own syntax which confuses me more than helping. Well, that is not quite correct. And it would be obvious if you did x86 assembler in the early '80s. MASM (and basically TASM (as in Borland Turbo Assembler)) is

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> What i don't like about A86 is that allows you to do stuff that is > actually "forbidden". > > For instance, from what i remember, A86 allows you to do something > like: > > MOV ES, B800h > > This is absolutely not supported by the CPU, and you need to use a > general purpose register to move a v

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Hi, On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 12:59 PM Carlos Teixeira wrote: > > What i don't like about A86 is that allows you to do stuff that is actually > "forbidden". I believe A86 intends to be "mostly" compatible with old MASM v5, but it does have some shortcuts and enhancements. > For instance, from wha

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS ASM resources

What i don't like about A86 is that allows you to do stuff that is actually "forbidden". For instance, from what i remember, A86 allows you to do something like: MOV ES, B800h This is absolutely not supported by the CPU, and you need to use a general purpose register to move a value onto a segm

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Santiago Almenara: > What book or webpage do you recommend to learn some DOS > assembler? At https://freeshell.de/~antonius/file_host/MSDOSASM.zip I have some books that you may find of use: 1. Advanced MS-DOS Programming, by Ray Duncan 2. Programmer's Technical Reference for MSDOS and t

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Hi, On Sun, Jul 3, 2022 at 9:39 AM Bret Johnson wrote: > > > Interestingly enough, I also bought a86/D86, and have found it to be > > the best assembler/disassembler I've ever found for dos. I ran > > across it after (mostly) trying to use debug for things, so it was a > > welcome relief. > > I

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> Interestingly enough, I also bought a86/D86, and have found it to be > the best assembler/disassembler I've ever found for dos.  I ran > across it after (mostly) trying to use debug for things, so it was a > welcome relief. I still like A86/A386 also, but like I said my programs are getting so

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS Fonts

Hi, On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 12:32 PM Daniel wrote: > > Is anyone familiar with how DOS fonts work? > > There are some .com files that will change the original font with another and > ya can create your own. I created a TI-99/4aA font to use. > > So how does it work? Is the hardware font cached

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-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2022 13:12:03 +0000 > From: Ben Collver > To: "freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net" > > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] DOS ASM resources > Message-ID: > < > sn6pr1

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Thank you for the answers. I've been following all the links you've sent I'll also follow the advice and try to understand some project like DOSLFN. (source code is only 220k) Santiago El jue, 30 jun 2022 a la(s) 13:19, C. Masloch (pus...@ulukai.org) escribió: > On at 2022-06-30 10:00 -0500, S

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Interestingly enough, I also bought a86/D86, and have found it to be the best assembler/disassembler I've ever found for dos.  I ran across it after (mostly) trying to use debug for things, so it was a welcome relief.  I still use it when working on dos things, which admittedly isn't very often

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I made a mistake pasting a URL into my last post. OLD: http://ref.x86asm.net/coder32.htmlhttp://www.eji.com/a86/ NEW: http://ref.x86asm.net/coder32.html ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists

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...somehow those two URL's got fused together: http://ref.x86asm.net/coder32.html http://www.eji.com/a86/ Frank On 2 Jul 2022 at 15:08, Bryan Kilgallin wrote: > Ben: > > > http://ref.x86asm.net/coder32.htmlhttp://www.eji.com/a86/ > > {Not Found > > The requested URL was not found on this serv

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Ben: http://ref.x86asm.net/coder32.htmlhttp://www.eji.com/a86/ {Not Found The requested URL was not found on this server.} -- members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourcefor

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