Re: [Freedos-user] GNU Cobol in the FreeDOS ...

2022-03-14 Thread dmccunney
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 1:24 PM Liam Proven wrote: > > The main problem is that you will need the whole GCC tool chain for this to > > work... > > I did not know that GNU COBOL compiled to C when I answered, but yes, > I agree, ultimately this is the problem. An approach like this is increasingl

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Darrin M. Gorski
> In this instance, one is. For you maybe, but clearly not for everyone. > But honestly, if you want to multitask DOS apps, use an OS designed to > do that: namely Windows, or in the early 1990s, OS/2 2 or later. Should I use dosemu? ;) Seriously though, thanks for the 'advice' but I have it a

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Travis Siegel
On 3/14/2022 6:48 PM, Liam Proven wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 23:27, Travis Siegel wrote: How does one tell which version of WSL is in use? https://pureinfotech.com/check-wsl-version-windows-10/ The command: wsl -l -v ... should tell you. Only it doesn't.  It only lists the linuxes (i

Re: [Freedos-user] GNU Cobol in the FreeDOS ...

2022-03-14 Thread Travis Siegel
On 3/14/2022 1:30 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: On 3/14/2022 10:22 AM, Liam Proven wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 18:12, Ralf Quint The main problem is that you will need the whole GCC tool chain for this to work... I did not know that GNU COBOL compiled to C when I answered, but yes, I agree, ultima

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Jim Hall
> On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 22:35, Jim Hall wrote: > > > > Yup, that's exactly how I used FreeDOS in DOSEMU in the 1990s. I'd > > start up DOSEMU running FreeDOS, then start up GNU Emacs on Linux. I'd > > edit my source files in Emacs (Linux), and compile them on FreeDOS > > (DOSEMU). And I didn't cl

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Travis Siegel
On 3/14/2022 9:34 AM, Sean Warner wrote: On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 12:08 PM Robert Riebisch wrote: Hi Travis, > (probably a silly question, but it would help me to be able to run dos > apps this way, unless someone has another free alternative that is > accessible). Ma

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Liam Proven
On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 23:27, Travis Siegel wrote: > How does one tell which version of WSL is in use? https://pureinfotech.com/check-wsl-version-windows-10/ The command: wsl -l -v ... should tell you. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gT

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Liam Proven
On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 22:35, Jim Hall wrote: > > Yup, that's exactly how I used FreeDOS in DOSEMU in the 1990s. I'd > start up DOSEMU running FreeDOS, then start up GNU Emacs on Linux. I'd > edit my source files in Emacs (Linux), and compile them on FreeDOS > (DOSEMU). And I didn't close Emacs wh

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Liam Proven
On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 21:29, Darrin M. Gorski wrote: > > > Same _time_? Ek! That sounds like a recipe for file corruption. > > No, not tried and don't want to. But surely that isn't what you meant? > > Yes, that's exactly what I mean - concurrency. My DOS use case is a > multi-node BBS whic

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Travis Siegel
On 3/14/2022 7:40 AM, Liam Proven wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 06:17, Jim Hall wrote: Another free alternative is QEMU, which should be available (and probably already installed by default) in every major Linux distro. I don't see them as being the same thing at all. QEMU is a VM. Sure you

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! I hope you are all aware of the fact that dosemu is totally outdated, only dosemu2 is fresh at the moment: http://dosemu2.github.io/dosemu2/ It has daily-built packages available for Ubuntu, Fedora and OpenSuSE :-) Regards, Eric ___ Freedos-

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Jim Hall
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 12:49 PM Liam Proven wrote: >[..] > > but rather that FreeDOS (running in DOSEMU) and Linux > > can access the same files at the same time via a shared folder. > > Same files, yes. > > Shared folder? No. Why DOSemu was valuable *to me* is that I *didn't* > need a shared fo

Re: [Freedos-user] [freedos:news] FreeDOS 1.3 discussion

2022-03-14 Thread Ruben Figueroa
Thanks for the feedback. I will work on this more in light of your message From: Jerome Shidel Sent: Monday, March 14, 2022 1:01 PM To: FreeDOS Users Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] [freedos:news] FreeDOS 1.3 discussion On Mar 13, 2022, at 5:49 PM, Ruben Figueroa

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Darrin M. Gorski
> Other than that I don't really consider dosemu (or DOSBox) anything > other than a "Virtual Machine" with some DOS-specific knacks. Or rather, "a 'virtual machine' that only supports DOS". - Darrin On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 4:13 PM C. Masloch wrote: > On at 2022-03-14 18:47 +0100, Liam Proven

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Darrin M. Gorski
> Same _time_? Ek! That sounds like a recipe for file corruption. > No, not tried and don't want to. But surely that isn't what you meant? Yes, that's exactly what I mean - concurrency. My DOS use case is a multi-node BBS which needs a (safe) shared file system. (solved with MSNET and Samba)

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread C. Masloch
On at 2022-03-14 18:47 +0100, Liam Proven wrote: I don't agree that this feature "makes DOS apps part of the apps on the computer" DOS apps (not games but productivity applications) are by nature text mode apps, with only a few modern exceptions which probably won't work well on DOSemu anyway.

Re: [Freedos-user] [freedos:news] FreeDOS 1.3 discussion

2022-03-14 Thread Jerome Shidel
> On Mar 13, 2022, at 5:49 PM, Ruben Figueroa > wrote: > > The above notes :"the return of networking" I installed FreeDOS as the OS > which has a ethernet port. After installing what I thing I need and reboot I > get this message "Physical hardware networking is not supported at this > t

Re: [Freedos-user] [freedos:news] FreeDOS 1.3 discussion

2022-03-14 Thread Jerome Shidel
> On Mar 13, 2022, at 5:49 PM, Ruben Figueroa > wrote: > > The above notes :"the return of networking" I installed FreeDOS as the OS > which has a ethernet port. After installing what I thing I need and reboot I > get this message "Physical hardware networking is not supported at this > t

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Liam Proven
On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 18:21, Jim Hall wrote: > > From how you described it, I assumed you were talking about DEXE's. > You said "runs DOS like a program under Linux" which is very similar > to the "DOSEMU apps" (DEXE's) I mentioned. > http://www.dosemu.org/docs/README/0.99/README-4.html No. In f

Re: [Freedos-user] GNU Cobol in the FreeDOS ...

2022-03-14 Thread Ralf Quint
On 3/14/2022 10:22 AM, Liam Proven wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 18:12, Ralf Quint wrote: [2] Is there a version of GNU COBOL for DOS? I can't find any mention of this on Google. This is the real issue at hand here, and the reason why the OP should rather contact the GNU COBOL folks about ins

Re: [Freedos-user] GNU Cobol in the FreeDOS ...

2022-03-14 Thread Jim Hall
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 7:10 PM Everaldo Bernardo Cunha > wrote: >> >> >> Hello, >> I would of to install GNU Cobol in the FreeDOS 1.3. Someone here >> can help me that work??? I'm using the FreeDOS in a virtual machine >> DOSBOX-X, in the Debian 11.2 LXDE 64 bits ... I'll await future >> contact

Re: [Freedos-user] GNU Cobol in the FreeDOS ...

2022-03-14 Thread Liam Proven
On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 18:12, Ralf Quint wrote: > > [2] Is there a version of GNU COBOL for DOS? I can't find any mention > > of this on Google. This is the real issue at hand here, and the reason why the OP should rather contact the GNU COBOL folks about installing this on DOS (any DOS). Yes,

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Jim Hall
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 8:18 AM Liam Proven wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 14:03, Jim Hall wrote: > > DOSEMU can definitely boot FreeDOS (or any DOS) in a window > > like I've described, where it's a completely self-contained > > and installed DOS. That's exactly how I used to run DOSEMU in >

Re: [Freedos-user] GNU Cobol in the FreeDOS ...

2022-03-14 Thread Ralf Quint
On 3/14/2022 6:10 AM, Liam Proven wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 01:10, Everaldo Bernardo Cunha > wrote: >> >> I would of to install GNU Cobol in the FreeDOS 1.3. Someone here >> can help me that work??? I'm using the FreeDOS in a virtual >> machine DOSBOX-X, in the Debian 11.2 LXDE 64 bits ..

Re: [Freedos-user] error-message with the find command

2022-03-14 Thread Jim Hall
On Sun, Mar 13, 2022 at 9:42 AM Christian wrote: > > Hi all, 😁 > > I have FreeDOS 1.2 running in a virtual machine (KVM/qemu). My host > is Linux/Lubuntu 20.04.4 LTS, 64 bit. > > There´s one "mystery" regarding FreeDOS though. > > Here´s an example to demonstrate the "problem": > > I have a text-

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Liam Proven
On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 16:34, Santiago Almenara wrote: > > I am new to dosemu2, does it support munt, General Midi soundfonts or at > least can you connect those programs to the midi exit of dosemu2 ? Gosh. I never use sound at all under DOS, but I believe it DOSemu2 does have some sound support

Re: [Freedos-user] GNU Cobol in the FreeDOS ...

2022-03-14 Thread dmccunney
On Sun, Mar 13, 2022 at 8:10 PM Everaldo Bernardo Cunha wrote: > > I would of to install GNU Cobol in the FreeDOS 1.3. Someone here can help me > that work??? I'm using the FreeDOS in a virtual machine DOSBOX-X, in the > Debian 11.2 LXDE 64 bits ... I'll await future contact. This sounds like a

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Santiago Almenara
Hello TK Chia! Thank you! I am new to dosemu2, does it support munt, General Midi soundfonts or at least can you connect those programs to the midi exit of dosemu2 ? Greetings, Santiago El lun, 14 mar 2022 a la(s) 10:19, TK Chia (u1049321...@caramail.com) escribió: > Hello Travis, > > > Ok, o

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread TK Chia
Hello Travis, Ok, odd question, (lots of emulation), but I've got ubuntu 20.04 running under win10, using wsl.  I can't seem to get dosemu installed under that version of ubuntu (though it works fine under a real ubuntu system I have).  When I try to install dosemu under the ubuntu 20.04 running

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Liam Proven
Thanks to Darrin and Robert for these... On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 14:28, Darrin M. Gorski wrote: > > You can also do that with qemu: -drive format=raw,file=fat:rw:$HOME/shared On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 15:02, Robert Riebisch wrote: > > Bochs has vvfat mode for that: >

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Robert Riebisch
Hi Liam, > A VM doesn't do that. It is a virtual PC with a virtual HD and inside > that a FAT filesystem. My Linux apps can't see into it. My DOS apps > can't see Linux files. Bochs has vvfat mode for that: vvfat: local directory appears as VFAT disk (with volatile redolog / optional commit) (see

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Sean Warner
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 12:08 PM Robert Riebisch wrote: > Hi Travis, > > > (probably a silly question, but it would help me to be able to run dos > > apps this way, unless someone has another free alternative that is > > accessible). > > Maybe http://takeda-toshiya.my.coocan.jp/msdos/ is already

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Darrin M. Gorski
You can also do that with qemu: -drive format=raw,file=fat:rw:$HOME/shared The QEMU docs state that the FAT is created at startup - so any new files added on the linux side won't appear to DOS after booting However, new files created from DOS will update the in-memory FAT and thus appear to DOS

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Liam Proven
On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 14:03, Jim Hall wrote: > DOSEMU can definitely boot FreeDOS (or any DOS) in a window like I've > described, where it's a completely self-contained and installed DOS. That's > exactly how I used to run DOSEMU in the DOSEMU "1.x" days. Yes, I know, but that's not what I wa

Re: [Freedos-user] GNU Cobol in the FreeDOS ...

2022-03-14 Thread Liam Proven
On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 01:10, Everaldo Bernardo Cunha wrote: > > I would of to install GNU Cobol in the FreeDOS 1.3. Someone here can help me > that work??? I'm using the FreeDOS in a virtual machine DOSBOX-X, in the > Debian 11.2 LXDE 64 bits ... I'll await future contact. 2 questions. [1] Yo

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Jim Hall
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022, 6:42 AM Liam Proven wrote: > On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 06:17, Jim Hall wrote: > > > > Another free alternative is QEMU, which should be available (and > probably already installed by default) in every major Linux distro. > > You said this in answer to me the other day. I meant

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Robert Riebisch
Hi Travis, > (probably a silly question, but it would help me to be able to run dos > apps this way, unless someone has another free alternative that is > accessible). Maybe http://takeda-toshiya.my.coocan.jp/msdos/ is already enough on Windows 10 x64? DOSBox is no option? Cheers, Robert --

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Liam Proven
On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 06:17, Jim Hall wrote: > > Another free alternative is QEMU, which should be available (and probably > already installed by default) in every major Linux distro. You said this in answer to me the other day. I meant to respond, but was busy. So, I will now. I don't see th

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Liam Proven
On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 05:15, Travis Siegel wrote: > > Ok, odd question, (lots of emulation), but I've got ubuntu 20.04 running > under win10, using wsl. WSL1 or WSL2? Might work on WSL2. Might not on WSL1 because there is no actual Linux kernel present. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://abou

Re: [Freedos-user] error-message with the find command

2022-03-14 Thread Liam Proven
On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 at 15:41, Christian wrote: > > Am I right in assuming that drive A:\ is non-existent ... > ... and why is it that the find-command produces the error message but not > the type and more commands ? Check your PATH. Just type PATH. If it includes A, edit the SET PATH line in