ase on-
WH> > WH> x86_64), which has nothing special at all by way of hardware.
WH> >
WH> > It use to take me a day (~20h) to rebuild each of: www/firefox,
WH> > www.seamonkey, mail/thunderbird.
WH>
WH> 20h? What on earth is your hardware?
Neither hurry nor x86_64
hall follow this way when we can have it
centralized?
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akes me want even more to install a pc-bsd or the like into the jail
and rolling binary updates there without its GUI. Is there any 'been there,
done that' for the case?
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I believe there is something wrong in the way I use the 'svn-export'.
Otherwise it's a no problem for me to patch for '--force'.
How can I update the already created 'work tree' with 'svn update'? I
lways considered to be about.
I'd disclose that following TIMTOWTDI the so called 'modern perl' and a
'perl6' can be used to reconsider on this.
For the case of following the former line the switch to python may (or may not)
happen to be the (good) difference about such a
t; > options missing. I have added those in today's release.
Wow. ;-)
WB> > p.s. I have not subscribed to this list, so please keep me in CC if you
would
WB> > like me to reply (in case this isn't done automatically).
WB>
WB> It's standard procedure for t
Hello.
2013/01/17 00:55:33 +0400 Peter Vereshagin => To
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org :
PV> GL> If anyone wants to create a port for svn-export and send it my way for
PV> GL> review, I would be happy to do that. Otherwise, I expect to have a
PV> GL> look myself within th
Hello.
2013/01/17 01:04:40 +0400 Peter Vereshagin => To
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org :
PV> CS> If you're using Subversion-1.7 on the client side, there's only one .svn
PV> Oops I didn't yet...
* meant having svn-1.6 about here.
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Hello.
2013/01/16 16:17:55 -0700 Warren Block => To Peter
Vereshagin :
WB> On Thu, 17 Jan 2013, Peter Vereshagin wrote:
WB> > 2013/01/16 15:24:00 -0500 Greg Larkin => To Peter
Vereshagin :
WB> > GL> Please see my message from a similar thread a few months ago for a
WB&
Hello.
2013/01/16 15:24:00 -0500 Greg Larkin => To Peter
Vereshagin :
GL> Please see my message from a similar thread a few months ago for a
GL> possible solution:
GL> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.os.freebsd.questions/294398
ANother heck is I can't see officially where can
Hello.
2013/01/16 11:47:30 -0800 Chuck Swiger => To Peter Vereshagin
:
CS> On Jan 16, 2013, at 11:35 AM, Peter Vereshagin wrote:
CS> [ ... ]
CS> > Over again: How could I 'svn checkout' the sources without those '.svn'
CS> > subdirectories in the each
Hello.
2013/01/16 15:24:00 -0500 Greg Larkin => To Peter
Vereshagin :
GL> On 1/16/13 3:07 PM, Peter Vereshagin wrote:
GL> > 2013/01/16 13:51:42 -0600 "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr"
GL> > => To Peter Vereshagin : JANJ> On 01/16/13
GL> > 13:35, Peter Vereshagin
Hello.
2013/01/16 13:51:42 -0600 "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" => To
Peter Vereshagin :
JANJ> On 01/16/13 13:35, Peter Vereshagin wrote:
JANJ> > 2013/01/16 13:19:19 -0600 "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr"
=> To Peter Vereshagin :
JANJ> > JANJ> On 01/16/13 12:58, Peter V
Hello.
2013/01/16 13:19:19 -0600 "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" => To
Peter Vereshagin :
JANJ> On 01/16/13 12:58, Peter Vereshagin wrote:
JANJ> > Hello.
JANJ> >
JANJ> > By far the 'portsnap' has a lag from svn. I think firefox-18.0,1 update
was
JANJ> &g
.
And, 'bdb' svn backend is known of its lack of reliability. Should I treat it
seriously in such a case, e. g., the repositories are a kind of large?
Any clues?
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TM>
TM> Use ASCII art or framebuffer?
If you're about to ascii then I'd say that 'svgatextmode' was great when I used
linux.
And, I don't believe the 'frame buffer' stuff is usable in freebsd.
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' and the only thing I time to time use to find
missing there is the '-joliet-long' checkbox.
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you need. It
should be nothing complicated to make such a tool or install the ready-to-use
software from the FreeBSD Ports system.
Same can go here about the web interface your modem can be controlled by
saying not about the telnet(1) but about web browser, correspondently.
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09:
http://www.debian-administration.org/users/dkg/weblog/48
"We need to be prepared for the eventual deprecation of SHA-1, but we do
appear to still have time."
How much serious shall this be to us?
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min implementation.
AK> ? ?,
AK> ? ?
AK> "?? ?? ??"
... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; ?
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"YES" in rc.conf
LJ> Do I need to set some right in devfs for it to go away?
Yes, in the case if your kernel detected the 'psm0' device, typically that
message found in dmesg for that case.
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Copy first 512 bytes from every block device to different files.
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replace not knowing how
MP> to install software.
I hate methodologies and teaching. But here are my cents:
- Such a metaport creation task can motivate him on learning about the
'porting and installing software for freebsd' topic by himself. Ain't it
great for hi
reation of such a package can be a more trivial task for sysadm than
the such of a package installation or upgrade by itself.
Such a metaport can be a person-scale/company-wide solution, not a public one
so no harm for the general freebsd usage approaches/pphilosophy which is a
kind of a public stu
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2012/10/29 10:31:31 +0100 Karol Buja??ek => To
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KBe> On 10/29/2012 7:50 AM, Peter Vereshagin wrote:
KBe> > I think this can be implemented as a 'metaport'. You may try to make
KBe> > it yourself or ask someone else e. g.
a one select and install which
will do everything for the famp server rather than downloading selecting
extensions, installing this and that exectra.
I think this can be implemented as a 'metaport'. You may try to make it
yourself or ask someone else e. g., me.
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2012/10/13 12:09:39 -0300 schu...@ime.usp.br => To Peter Vereshagin :
> > y
> > Hello.
> >
> > it's a -questions@ here, right? (=
>
> Indeed. :-)
Ouch! it's already not... But I Cc: there. Oops?
> > What's a specific of the case?
&g
s an exception (to run gkrellm).
I don't think it's possible at the moment. Do you think this can be
implemented without performance loss? Sysctl is a kind of the kernel stuff...
How about emaulators/qemu, virtualbox, etc?
> Thanks for your time.
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be able to run that software and use
com-ports from the master freebsd system at the same time. Then you can you can
use remote access features for workstation access to the software.
VS> doubts ... English is so poor
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remind though if this was for
'printer-only' purposes e. g. output-only, supplied with a mandatory queueing
facilities, etc., or not.
Who knows if modern smb protocol implementations could do this, too.
Depending on a task I think the most interactive user-friendly solution here is
en? http://pcbsd.org
If you need to install a program from a freebsd port then pcbsd allows it,too.
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2012/07/12 14:44:48 -0400 Lowell Gilbert
=> To Peter Vereshagin :
LG> Peter Vereshagin writes:
LG>
LG> > 2012/07/12 13:19:56 -0400 Lowell Gilbert
=> To Kaya Saman :
LG> > LG> URLs as well as FTP. For ones that aren't, (and assuming the rather
LG>
Hello.
Why don't you use a portsnap? it's over http...
2012/07/12 19:01:15 +0100 Kaya Saman => To Peter
Vereshagin :
KS> I will check it out however and see if that method is best, however
KS> CVSup would be the best way for us and I'm already looking at this:
KS>
y no one is interested about what kind of a danger
the ftp protocol can ever be? i. e. skype is much more vicious in comparison to
ftp and s much harder to be restricted by a packet filter if even possoible.
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2012/06/14 00:23:25 +0400 Peter Vereshagin => To
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PV> ot the least how could I see the 'real' size of each of those files, both
~150M
PV> actulally, with a system command?
also, 'du' works that way for regular files. But i
rent file sizes stored on a ufs1 in their
metadata?
ot the least how could I see the 'real' size of each of those files, both ~150M
actulally, with a system command?
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2012/06/13 14:43:29 -0400 Simon => To Chuck Swiger :
S> There is no segfault which is what usually happens when you have memory
then there is the daemon's log...
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ith nvidia. Any modern one has support of 'xvideo' extension with the
'driver nv' that is 'just enough' for watching movies.
I've no modern hardware but the model that works good for years for me is: tnt2
agp 32M. Just the same as out of every TransNeft's t
Hello.
2012/05/30 17:04:42 +0400 Peter Vereshagin => To
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org :
PV> xterm works for me in my mutt under tmux, ask me if you need to tweak
locale ( I see his L char with the '/' over it in place, and the cyrilic
letters in my other mail, too )
PV>
P
fferent colorscheme depending on its -T parameter ? At
the least TERM=linux does the needed trick on vim but not on, say. 'ls -G' ...
On a second look I see only 3 colors enough (+ black + white) on the
what-I-need picture, they are just as bright as they should.
u> cheers,
u> ?
han ':set term=linux' doesn't work for colors
that way.
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wn better in mlterm rather than in xterm.
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moderat...@freebsd.org and it's the where the TM's message was redirected?
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g, say
HUP or USR1 posix signal to chenge its settings on the fly.
This is why in this particular case the configuration file must reside within
the databse directory.
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out (well...
mostly) problems with mouse pointer.
Of course you are welcome to try the www/links-hacked port especially if that
is your case.
Anyway www/elinks port possess far more features for ttyvX/xterm than
www/links, it's a rather nice tool, too.
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s as regular users).
Sure I am interested.
I myself try to run Xorg server in a chroot and its clients from a different
jail(s) via tcp on lo0. Trouble still is I can't get my VT ttyvXs because of
that strange 'console ownership' stuff.
> Also, thanks for Capsicum, it sure is u
atures like 'go' clause batch runs and scroll cursors with fetching
from them on the contrast to the 'traditional' dblib-based mssql php extension.
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on-trivial quirks able to bother someone else with such a
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2011/12/15 16:37:12 + Matthew Seaman =>
To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org :
MS> On 15/12/2011 15:36, Peter Vereshagin wrote:
MS> > I find that kernel log messages about killed processes are doubling the
MS> > characters just like that (on an SMP machine). Probabl
MP machine). Probably thay are getting killed
simultaneously and the kernel writes msg about that one-by-one character.
Should I file a PR on this? Have no idea how could I reproduce a situation. but
it's regularly sent from 'periodic daily' several kernel log messages collected
fo
user doesn't seem to be able to
use the audio/ardour?
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card?
That way one should get a mixer's separate "CD" volume regulator at no cost...
But sure this makes impossible the any processing like this:
cdda2wav | tee /some/file > /dev/dsp
Either way has its advantages and drawbacks.
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hen manage the login
MS> process to create a new login session within the jail.
I'd find it obvious to try to launch getty by mean of jexec by setting the
command in /etc/ttys?
Something like that:
ttyv0 "/usr/sbin/jexec `cat /var/run/some_jail.id` /usr/libexec/getty Pc"
y BSD-based, but also not yet SysV-ied.
According to "Just for fun" book, he was taking functions from the SunOS
functions reference and implementing them from scratch but according to that
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It does use to be all ok with 'pkg_delete ... make install' sequence though.
Any clues?
ps. Same goes here about copying the obsoleted shared libraries to
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I think I should correct myself as what I found that way was unexpected, even
after aside from portsnap.
2011/06/15 06:51:32 +0400 Peter Vereshagin => To
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org :
PV> GL> cvs -d :ext:anon...@anoncvs1.freebsd.org:/home/ncvs export -D 2010-10-01
PV>
ind a source package:
https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=xulrunner-1.9.2.23.source.tar.bz2
I don't think I should get it from fedora's git's 'lookaside cache'. Or should
I?
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Hello.
2011/09/22 10:32:14 -0400 Fbsd8 => To FreeBSD Questions
:
F> Is there a console command to cause the cd/dvd device to open its drawer?
echo -ne "e\nq\n" | cdcontrol
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2011/08/04 13:23:04 -0400 Alejandro Imass => To FreeBSD
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AI> The MakeMaker build hangs in the test: INSTALL_BASE.t
I had that same problem too,
AI> the only person using the CPAN shell on an Jail !
... but had no idea if it
Oh freebsd-questions want you buy me a mersedes benz?
2011/07/21 23:07:41 +0200 Damien Fleuriot => To Peter Vereshagin :
DF> That's kinda the point of portupgrade, takes care of the deps for you ;)
Sounds bad. I meant about such a tool to handle dependencies to keep the 'make
Oh freebsd-questions want you buy me a mersedes benz?
2011/07/21 19:39:45 +0100 Bruce Cran => To Daniel Staal :
BC> to use portmaster (ports-mgmt/portmaster): it has a PM_SU_CMD which is
Cool. Tried it but couldn't make it to update the only one port, and not to
update its dependencies.
Will lo
Oh freebsd-questions want you buy me a mersedes benz?
2011/07/21 18:30:50 +0200 Damien Fleuriot => To
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org :
DF> On 7/21/11 6:11 PM, Peter Vereshagin wrote:
DF> > Oh freebsd-questions want you buy me a mersedes benz?
DF> > 2011/07/21 17:35:02 +0200 Dami
Oh freebsd-questions want you buy me a mersedes benz?
2011/07/21 17:35:02 +0200 Damien Fleuriot => To
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org :
DF> On 7/21/11 5:19 PM, Peter Vereshagin wrote:
DF> > Oh freebsd-questions want you buy me a mersedes benz?
DF> > 2011/07/21 16:53:58 +0200 Dami
You'll never silence the voice of the voiceless, freebsd-questions!
2011/07/21 11:04:57 -0400 Daniel Staal => To
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org :
DS> > I'd like to build my ports from not a root user.
DS> > How can I tell the ports system that it should su ( switch user ) before
DS> > to
DS> > bui
Oh freebsd-questions want you buy me a mersedes benz?
2011/07/21 16:53:58 +0200 Damien Fleuriot => To
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org :
DF> What the f... ?
favorite song lyrics, np.
DF> > I'd like to build my ports from not a root user.
DF>
DF> That is possible but exceedingly highly inconvenien
Oh freebsd-questions want you buy me a mersedes benz?
I'd like to build my ports from not a root user.
How can I tell the ports system that it should su ( switch user ) before to
build the dependencies?
Can portupgrade handle this?
Dependencies should be installed from a root user.
Thank you.
73
Oh freebsd-questions want you buy me a mersedes benz?
2011/07/21 11:37:15 +0300 Ross => To Jos Chrispijn :
R> I use security/logcheck which informs me via email about new entries
R> in /var/log/messages and also smartd from sysutils/smartmontools which
R> will email me when it detects any problems
Hey Mr(s) freebsd-questions show some good to me!
2011/07/18 12:26:08 -0700 Bill Tillman => To
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org :
BT>
BT>
BT> From: "per...@pluto.rain.com"
BT> To: jri...@gmail.com; cbergst...@pathscale.com
BT> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
BT>
Hey Mr(s) freebsd-questions show some good to me!
2011/07/18 07:50:41 -0400 Aryeh Friedman => To
FreeBSD :
AF> > version number every 18 months +/-. I have two new laptops ion front of
AF> > me that I cannot use FBSD on simply because they don't support the
AF> > wireless (N class obviously) ins
Hey Mr(s) freebsd-questions show some good to me!
2011/07/18 03:49:59 -0500 Adam Vande More => To C.
Bergstr?m :
AVM> We all wish a lot of things. One of mine would be that people shouldn't
AVM> have strong opinions on subjects they know little to nothing about.
It's about me too, but I'm inter
Hey Mr(s) freebsd-questions show some good to me!
2011/07/17 23:08:16 -0400 "ill...@gmail.com" => To
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org :
igc> (Should be under contrib/xz )
archivers/xz
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2011/07/06 10:01:21 -0500 Tim Daneliuk => To FreeBSD
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TD> ===> p5-Module-Build-0.3800_1 depends on package:
p5-Parse-CPAN-Meta>=1.44.01 - found
TD> ! Parse::CPAN::Meta (1.40) is installed, but we need version >= 1.44
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2011/07/05 12:37:11 -0700 Yuri => To FreeBSD Questions :
Y> I hit this problem periodically when a lot of disk space is gone and
Y> it's hard to tell where did it go. Once it was thunderbird writing huge
I think you can create a file sy
Concrete jungle, oh freebsd-questions, you've got to do your best...
I'm sorry I put this not into the -perl@ list because there are too many robots
there.
As far as I see the secondary major number change of the perl version can lead
the user to the strange situations as more and more modules are
I feel summer creepin' in and I'm tired of this town again, freebsd-questions!
2011/06/23 03:56:07 -0700 Andrew Moran => To
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org :
AM>
AM> Is anyone else running zfs on root and running into very slow finds? The
/etc/periodic/daily/450.status-security can take over a
I feel summer creepin' in and I'm tired of this town again, freebsd-questions!
2011/06/20 13:37:13 +0300 Коньков Евгений => To Коньков
Евгений :
> КЕ> #cat /etc/master.passwd | grep quagga
> КЕ> quagga:*:101:101::0:0:Quagga
> КЕ> # pw user show quagga
> КЕ> pw: no such user `quagga'
>
> the comm
You can't take no for an answer, freebsd-questions!
2011/06/16 18:20:43 -0400 Daniel Staal => To Peter Vereshagin :
DS> > CP> UNIX, the name, is a trademark. We can use it all we like here,
DS> > speaking
DS> >
DS> > Do we need a license to use it? ;-)
DS>
You can't take no for an answer, freebsd-questions!
2011/06/16 12:30:07 -0600 Chad Perrin => To
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org :
CP> * The UNIX source code's copyright is held by . . . damn. It keeps
I always told this name is a kind of Black Label. Companies to hold it use to
meet fatal trouble
You can't take no for an answer, freebsd-questions!
2011/06/16 12:46:20 -0600 Chad Perrin => To
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org :
CP> > But both are just words/phrases, right?
CP>
CP> Here's an example of the difference:
Good example, it's on-topic ;-)
CP> UNIX, the name, is a trademark. We can
You can't take no for an answer, freebsd-questions!
2011/06/16 13:36:32 -0400 Daniel Staal => To
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org :
DS> > RS> Copyright pertains to the source code. Trademark pertains to the use
DS> > of
DS> > RS> signs, symbols, names, logos, etc.
DS> >
DS> > Source code itself can
You can't take no for an answer, freebsd-questions!
2011/06/16 11:54:05 -0400 Robert Simmons => To
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org :
RS> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright
RS> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark
I'll surely will when I'll have some to trade ;-)
RS> Copyright pertains to th
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2011/06/16 10:06:42 -0400 Robert Simmons => To
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org :
RS> I think the confusion that you all are having is between the idea of
RS> "copyright" and "trademark". They are different. Copyright applies to the
As I suspe
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2011/06/16 14:22:43 +0100 Matthew Seaman =>
To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org :
MS> > CB> FreeBSD is a UNIX-like clone, which is indeed free, whereas UNIX is
MS> > CB> still the proprietary property of AT&T/Bell Labs.
MS> >
MS> > unix is a trad
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2011/06/15 17:08:31 -0400 Chris Brennan => To Thomas
Hansen :
CB> FreeBSD is a UNIX-like clone, which is indeed free, whereas UNIX is
CB> still the proprietary property of AT&T/Bell Labs.
unix is a trademark of novell.com.
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2011/06/15 08:51:22 +0100 RW => To
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org :
R> > - From what I see in /var/db/portsnap/files/ it keeps every file it
R> > had ever downloaded: they all have different times.
R>
R> It doesn't, it's a snapshot. The timestam
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2011/06/14 20:59:33 -0400 Greg Larkin => To Peter
Vereshagin :
GL> > How can I extract an 'old' snapshot from portsnap database?
GL> > Does it keep them? Does portsnap keep snapshots fetched previously?
G
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2011/06/14 17:17:39 -0700 Chuck Swiger => To Peter Vereshagin
:
CS> > Does it keep them? Does portsnap keep snapshots fetched previously?
CS> As far as I can tell, you can
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How can I extract an 'old' snapshot from portsnap database?
Does it keep them? Does portsnap keep snapshots fetched previously?
Suppose I need the particular port or the whole tree as of the specified date
and time?
Or, if I need the particular
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2011/06/11 19:47:43 -0700 Gary Kline => To FreeBSD Mailing
List :
GK> About a minute ago I learned that you cannot have a ### comment
GK> _following_ the LoadModule lines in /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf
in the upcoming release of www/p5
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2011/06/01 17:31:13 +0200 n dhert => To
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org :
nd> # portupgrade -fr perl
nd> make: don't know how to make
nd> /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.14.0/mach/CORE/cc_runtime.h.
nd> Stop
nd> checking for XML::Parser..
Concrete jungle, oh freebsd-questions, you've got to do your best...
2011/05/22 10:43:52 -0700 Angelo => To
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org :
A> I am trying to install ImageMagick and Autotrace ports but I need to
A> configure Imagemagick to work with Autotrace so it processes raster images
A> to t
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2011/05/11 05:37:56 -0700 Bill Tillman => To
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org :
BT> > I already do... I'm want to automate it. Every other virtual screen
BT> I'm watching this thread with interest.
Me too.
But I have another kind of inter
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2011/05/09 17:02:06 +0200 Olivier Mueller => To FreeBSD
Questions :
OM> but one of the thing I would like to prevent is for example accessing
OM> some files like /etc/passwd (= listing all other customers domains in
OM> this specific cas
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2011/05/04 16:47:33 +0100 Chris Rees => To krad :
CR> > > > > Is it possible to limit the SSH access?
CR> > > Regarding ssh login, I usually use "rbash" from the ports, that
CR> restricts
CR> Or you could have a special /bin-restricted that you nu
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