Re: Budget on user-ppp

1999-08-18 Thread Brian Somers
[.] > > Brian, > > > > The i4b stuff seems to have some sophisticated costing control code > > (isdn.rates). > > It appears that you can define the costs at different times of day and > > thereby > > vary the timeouts, etc. I wonder whether any of this can be adapted for > > "modem ppp". >

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Marc Ramirez
On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Wilfredo Sanchez wrote: > A group of us at Apple are trying to figure out how to handle > situations where a filesystem with "foreign" user ID's are present. > The basic problem is that the user experience using Unix semantics > are not really pleasant. I think some

Re: cvs commit: src/bin/test test.c

1999-08-18 Thread Sheldon Hearn
[Hi-jacked out of cvs-committers & cvs-all] On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:18:53 MST, Brian Feldman wrote: > green 1999/08/17 17:18:53 PDT > > Modified files: > bin/test test.c > Log: > The new test(1) did not use access() correctly. I don't know why, since > supposedly i

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Izaac
On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Wilfredo Sanchez wrote: > A group of us at Apple are trying to figure out how to handle > situations where a filesystem with "foreign" user ID's are present. [...] > that he can't read the files, because I have a lamer umask, and as a > bonus, I don't have an account

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Ignatios Souvatzis
On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 05:00:48AM -0400, Marc Ramirez wrote: > > I was thinking about this the other day, while mousting a series of floppy > disks, and it seems to me that what you're looking for, at least for > removable media, is a sort of single-user UFS that says "Joe Schmoe owns > this file

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Marc Ramirez
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Ignatios Souvatzis wrote: > On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 05:00:48AM -0400, Marc Ramirez wrote: > > > > I was thinking about this the other day, while mousting a series of floppy > > disks, and it seems to me that what you're looking for, at least for > > removable media, is a sort

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
> Yeah. That's definitely where I'd start from. I think the main obstacle > for any *BSD system in the ease-of-use department will be the > must-mount-as-root issue. huh? NetBSD (at least) allows non-root mounts (forced to nodev,nosuid, ..) if the user owns the mount point and has appropriate

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Thomas David Rivers
I had a thought on this It seems you are trying to provide the "floppy model" that users currently have with their PCs. User A writes the floppy, User B can read it and do whatever he wants... (I know this is Apple - but I'll stick to MSDOS for the discussion, and "floppy" indicates any re

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Marc Ramirez
[ CC's trimmed ] On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Bill Sommerfeld wrote: > > Yeah. That's definitely where I'd start from. I think the main obstacle > > for any *BSD system in the ease-of-use department will be the > > must-mount-as-root issue. > > huh? NetBSD (at least) allows non-root mounts (forced

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread David Malone
On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 07:39:11AM -0400, Marc Ramirez wrote: > Oh! I was under the impression that it just didn't work, even with > correct perms, but I use FreeBSD. Lemme try it... Can't mount, even > with 0666 on /dev/fd0. Maybe I'm being stupid. Wouldn't be the first > time! You have to tu

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Alban Hertroys
On 18 Aug, Marc Ramirez wrote: > Oh! I was under the impression that it just didn't work, even with > correct perms, but I use FreeBSD. Lemme try it... Can't mount, even > with 0666 on /dev/fd0. Maybe I'm being stupid. Wouldn't be the first > time! > > Marc. No miracle, the mount command has

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Wolfgang Solfrank
Hi, > huh? NetBSD (at least) allows non-root mounts (forced to > nodev,nosuid, ..) if the user owns the mount point and has appropriate > access to the underlying device.. > > I thought that was a 4.4Lite feature.. Yes, it was part of 4.4Lite2. And I still have the discussion from 1994 between

Re: BSD XFS Port & BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-18 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , Bill Studenmund writes: >On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, Terry Lambert wrote: >> > I am currently conducting a thorough study of the VFS subsystem >> > in preparation for an all-out effort to port SGI's XFS filesystem to >> > FreeBSD 4.x at such time as SGI gives up the code. Matt Dillon >> >

VMWare: porting kernel modules to FreeBSD

1999-08-18 Thread Mark Huizer
Hi there, I had a look recently at the code for one of the kernel modules that VMWare requires (driver-only.tar), and it looks like something that should be portable to FreeBSD, although there is some messy stuff in it (assembly that seems to be using Linux specific stuff, brrr..) But anyway: it l

Re: lpd security check for changed-file vs NFS

1999-08-18 Thread David Scheidt
On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 6:37 PM -0700 8/17/99, Matthew Dillon wrote: > >If you removed the stat test, I would simply get rid of the -s > >option entirely - require that all files be queued to the print > >spool. > > The administration would kill me. I would

[Fwd: First FreeMWare release!]

1999-08-18 Thread Darren WIebe
Hello: I thought that some of you might be interested in this. If this message should not have been posted to this list please let me know. Darren Wiebe dkwi...@hagenhomes.com--- Begin Message --- Hey folks, It's been awhile. Sorry, I've been busy working on other fronts, but I did have time t

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Michael C. Richardson
> "Wilfredo" == Wilfredo Sanchez writes: Wilfredo> I think the desired behaviour would be that since this is Wilfredo> effectively now Joe's zip disk, he should be able to do as he Wilfredo> pleases. One proposal might be to give the console user the Wilfredo> equival

Re: VMWare: porting kernel modules to FreeBSD

1999-08-18 Thread Darren WIebe
Hello: One other thing that you might be interested in is the fact that Freemware has its first release out. ***It is not nearly complete yet*** They have something out though, and it needs people to work on the code for FreeBSD. Right now they are working mostly on the Linux stuff where it

Re: VMWare: porting kernel modules to FreeBSD

1999-08-18 Thread Chris Dillon
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Mark Huizer wrote: > Hi there, > > I had a look recently at the code for one of the kernel modules that VMWare > requires (driver-only.tar), and it looks like something that should be > portable to FreeBSD, although there is some messy stuff in it (assembly > that seems to be

async v. sync v. default mode on ufs

1999-08-18 Thread Larry Lile
It was pointed out to me by a co-worker that FreeBSD has actually three modes of operation for mounting ufs filesystems. Could someone please explain to me, and him, the differences between the three. Also does anyone knows how these compare to sync and async on Linux? Just a btw, you seem to b

Question(s) regarding sys/vm/swap_pager.c

1999-08-18 Thread Bosko Milekic
This may seem to be a ridiculous question... (sorry) I have a question specifically regarding sys/vm/swap_pager.c, I'm not very familiar with sys/vm/*, but I've noticed that the value of the static int no_swap_space (which is initially set to 1) is almost never checked. The only times that this v

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
the only portable user ids are names as strings. you can kludge and kludge but at some point the kludges will pile up too high, fall over, and hurt somebody. how many new options did we see proposed in the last 12 hours for this problem? ron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org

Re: async v. sync v. default mode on ufs

1999-08-18 Thread Larry Lile
Sorry, I blew the CC: line... On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Larry Lile wrote: > > It was pointed out to me by a co-worker that FreeBSD has actually > three modes of operation for mounting ufs filesystems. Could someone > please explain to me, and him, the differences between the three. > > Also does a

Re: Question(s) regarding sys/vm/swap_pager.c

1999-08-18 Thread Matthew Dillon
:This may seem to be a ridiculous question... (sorry) : :I have a question specifically regarding sys/vm/swap_pager.c, :I'm not very familiar with sys/vm/*, but I've noticed that the value of :the static int no_swap_space (which is initially set to 1) is almost never :checked. The only times that t

Re: VMWare: porting kernel modules to FreeBSD

1999-08-18 Thread Mark Huizer
On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 08:10:28AM -0600, Darren WIebe wrote: > Hello: > > One other thing that you might be interested in is the fact that Freemware > has its first release out. ***It is not nearly complete yet*** They have > something out though, and it needs people to work on the code for

Re: Onstream?

1999-08-18 Thread Matthew Jacob
> In message <19990817230910.a6...@netmonger.net> Christopher Masto writes: > : Do they still not allow you to release the specs? How is the code > : going to become part of FreeBSD if they won't allow its release? > > I didn't sign an NDA to get my copy of the spec or the hardware... Neither

Re: Onstream?

1999-08-18 Thread Matthew Jacob
Oh- to give my status for the SCSI version: I lost time because the day and ahlf I had allocated to actually work on this got blown away by -current instabilities. I'll try and get another shot at it Sunday (*my* work schedule is such that right now that I don't have an employer I can stick this w

Re: Onstream?

1999-08-18 Thread Warner Losh
In message Matthew Jacob writes: : Neither did I. But I was requested by Jim Jonez of Onstream to not release : the specs. Same here... Just pointing out that OnStream is being cooperative. : > I also don't have time to devote to the onstream IDE project. I'm : > looking for someone with the

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Marc Ramirez
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, David Malone wrote: > On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 07:39:11AM -0400, Marc Ramirez wrote: > > Oh! I was under the impression that it just didn't work, even with > > correct perms, but I use FreeBSD. Lemme try it... Can't mount, even > > with 0666 on /dev/fd0. Maybe I'm being stup

Re: VMWare: porting kernel modules to FreeBSD

1999-08-18 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 09:16:29AM -0500, Chris Dillon wrote: > On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Mark Huizer wrote: > > > Hi there, > > > > I had a look recently at the code for one of the kernel modules that VMWare > > requires (driver-only.tar), and it looks like something that should be > > portable to Fr

Re: RE: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Wilfredo Sanchez
| > when new media is available and it will try to mount it. The present | > behaviour in Mac OS X Server is that everything mounted this way is | > trusted, though the Finder should be requesting nosetuid; I should | > check that. It's also possible that the kernel will number drive

Re: OpenLDAP tests?

1999-08-18 Thread Jaye Mathisen
Found it. This let the tests run fine for me. === RCS file: /repo/OpenLDAP/pkg/ldap/servers/slapd/daemon.c,v retrieving revision 1.14.2.7.2.8 retrieving revision 1.14.2.7.2.9 diff -u -r1.14.2.7.2.8 -r1.14.2.7.2.9 --- servers/slapd/d

Re: BSD XFS Port & BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-18 Thread Terry Lambert
> > > I'm not familiar with the VFS_default stuff. All the vop_default_desc > > > routines in NetBSD point to error routines. > > > > In FreeBSD, they now point to default routines that are *not* error > > routines. This is the problem. I admit the change was very well > > intentioned, since it

Re: BSD XFS Port & BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-18 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <199908181716.kaa12...@usr02.primenet.com>, Terry Lambert writes: >> > > I'm not familiar with the VFS_default stuff. All the vop_default_desc >> > > routines in NetBSD point to error routines. >> > >> > In FreeBSD, they now point to default routines that are *not* error >> > routines.

Re: BSD XFS Port & BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-18 Thread Bill Studenmund
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message , > Bill > Studenmund writes: > >On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Matt doesn't represent the FreeBSD project, and even if he rewrites > the VFS subsystem so he can understand it, his rewrite would face > considerable resist

Re: BSD XFS Port & BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-18 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , Bill Studenmund writes: >Whew! That's reasuring. I agree there are things which need fixing. It'd >be nice if both NetBSD and FreeBSD could fix things in the same way. Well, >that< still remains to be seen... >> >> The use of the "vfs_default" to make unimplemented VOP's >> >>

Re: BSD XFS Port & BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-18 Thread Nate Williams
> > Both struct timespec and struct timeval are major mistakes, they > > make arithmetic on timestamps an expensive operation. Timestamps > > should be stored as integers using an fix-point notations, for > > instance 64bits with 32bit fractional seconds (the NTP timestamp), > > or in the future 1

Re: BSD XFS Port & BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-18 Thread Bill Studenmund
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message , > Bill Studenmund writes: > > >Whew! That's reasuring. I agree there are things which need fixing. It'd > >be nice if both NetBSD and FreeBSD could fix things in the same way. > > Well, >that< still remains to be seen... :-) > >I do

Re: BSD XFS Port & BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-18 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <199908181737.laa03...@mt.sri.com>, Nate Williams writes: >> > Both struct timespec and struct timeval are major mistakes, they >> > make arithmetic on timestamps an expensive operation. Timestamps >> > should be stored as integers using an fix-point notations, for >> > instance 64bits

Re: BSD XFS Port & BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-18 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , Bill Studenmund writes: >> >I doubt we need more than 64 bit times. 2^63 seconds works out to >> >292,279,025,208 years, or 292 (american) billion years. Current theories >> >put the age of the universe at I think 12 to 16 billion years. So 64-bit >> >signed times in seconds will cov

Re: BSD XFS Port & BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-18 Thread Julian Elischer
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > Matt doesn't represent the FreeBSD project, and even if he rewrites > the VFS subsystem so he can understand it, his rewrite would face > considerable resistance on its way into FreeBSD. I don't think > there is reason to rewrite it, but there cer

Re: BSD XFS Port & BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-18 Thread Nate Williams
> > Matt doesn't represent the FreeBSD project, and even if he rewrites > > the VFS subsystem so he can understand it, his rewrite would face > > considerable resistance on its way into FreeBSD. I don't think > > there is reason to rewrite it, but there certainly are areas > > that need fixing. >

Re: BSD XFS Port & BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-18 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , Julian Elischer writes: >On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >> Matt doesn't represent the FreeBSD project, and even if he rewrites >> the VFS subsystem so he can understand it, his rewrite would face >> considerable resistance on its way into FreeBSD. I don't think >> th

Re: BSD XFS Port & BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-18 Thread Terry Lambert
> > > > > > 2. Advisory locks are hung off private backing objects. > > > I'm not sure. The struct lock * is only used by layered filesystems, so > > > they can keep track both of the underlying vnode lock, and if needed their > > > own vnode lock. For advisory locks, would we want to keep track b

Re: BSD XFS Port & BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-18 Thread Matthew Dillon
:On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: : :> Matt doesn't represent the FreeBSD project, and even if he rewrites :> the VFS subsystem so he can understand it, his rewrite would face :> considerable resistance on its way into FreeBSD. I don't think :> there is reason to rewrite it, but there

Re: BSD XFS Port & BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-18 Thread Julian Elischer
The discussions between Kirk and matt over a glass of beer/drink at kirk's party at USENIX and at the Bay area User's group. On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Nate Williams wrote: > > > Matt doesn't represent the FreeBSD project, and even if he rewrites > > > the VFS subsystem so he can understand it, his r

Re: cvs commit: src/bin/test test.c

1999-08-18 Thread Chris Costello
On Wed, Aug 18, 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > green 1999/08/17 17:18:53 PDT > > > > Modified files: > > bin/test test.c > > Log: > > The new test(1) did not use access() correctly. I don't know why, since > > supposedly it's ksh-derived, and it's not broken in pdksh

Re: BSD XFS Port & BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-18 Thread Terry Lambert
> >> > > I'm not familiar with the VFS_default stuff. All the vop_default_desc > >> > > routines in NetBSD point to error routines. > >> > > >> > In FreeBSD, they now point to default routines that are *not* error > >> > routines. This is the problem. I admit the change was very well > >> > inte

Re: BSD XFS Port & BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-18 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <199908181848.laa14...@usr02.primenet.com>, Terry Lambert writes: >> >You would have to de-collapse several VOP lists that have been >> >pre-collapsed. >> >> You are talking gibberish here. Please show code where this is >> a problem. > >When you write a proxy stacking layer, such as

Re: BSD XFS Port & BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-18 Thread Bill Studenmund
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Right. That exported struct lock * makes locking down to the lowest-level > > file easy - you just feed it to the lock manager, and you're locking the > > same lock the lowest level fs uses. You then lock all vnodes stacked over > > this one at the sam

Re: BSD XFS Port & BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-18 Thread Bill Studenmund
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > Yes, but we need subsecond in the filesystems. Think about make(1) on > a blinding fast machine... Oh yes, I realize that. :-) It's just that I thought you were at one point suggesting having 128 bits to the left of the decimal point (128 bits wort

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Marc Ramirez wrote: > Oh! I was under the impression that it just didn't work, even with > correct perms, but I use FreeBSD. Lemme try it... Can't mount, even > with 0666 on /dev/fd0. Maybe I'm being stupid. Wouldn't be the first > time! It's controlled by a sysctl in Fre

Gigabit ethernet support?

1999-08-18 Thread David Miller
Any supported cards in 3.2.x? The HCL pages don't list any:( Thanks, --- David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Bill Studenmund
On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Brian C. Grayson wrote: > On Tue, Aug 17, 1999 at 07:17:45PM -0700, Wilfredo Sanchez wrote: > > A group of us at Apple are trying to figure out how to handle > > situations where a filesystem with "foreign" user ID's are present. > > Have you looked at mount_umap(8)?

yp_mkdb

1999-08-18 Thread Nathaniel Schein
I am in the process of upgrading a NIS master using version 2.1.0 to version 3.2. The 'Makefile' has been customized to include automount maps for our IRIX machines as was the 'Makefile' in the old NIS Master. The problem is that for some reason the program 'yp_mkdb' in 3.2 is much more picky. It d

Re: Gigabit ethernet support?

1999-08-18 Thread Marc Nicholas
Yes, several vendors cards are supported in 3.2...most notably cards based on Titon I or Titon II chipsets (Alteon cards, 3Com 3c985, Netgear GA620, etc). -marc Marc Nicholas netSTOR Technologies, Inc. http://www.netstor.com "Fast,

Re: BSD XFS Port & BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-18 Thread Terry Lambert
> > > Right. That exported struct lock * makes locking down to the lowest-level > > > file easy - you just feed it to the lock manager, and you're locking the > > > same lock the lowest level fs uses. You then lock all vnodes stacked over > > > this one at the same time. Otherwise, you just call VO

Re: RE: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Anthony Kimball
: And what happens accross NIS domains? UID = SSN? Oops -- it's too late for RFC 666. Besides, that's Bill, not Steve. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: BSD XFS Port & BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-18 Thread Terry Lambert
> >> >You would have to de-collapse several VOP lists that have been > >> >pre-collapsed. > >> > >> You are talking gibberish here. Please show code where this is > >> a problem. > > > >When you write a proxy stacking layer, such as John Heidemann's > >network proxy stacking layer (an NFS alterna

Re: RE: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Todd Backman
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Anthony Kimball wrote: > > : And what happens accross NIS domains? > > UID = SSN? Oops -- it's too late for RFC 666. Besides, that's Bill, not > Steve. > ROTFLMFAO (rolling on the floor laughing my f***ing a** off) ;^) Thanks for brightening my day with this grin

RE: Gigabit ethernet support?

1999-08-18 Thread Charles Randall
Bill Paul has developed a driver for the Alteon Tigon 1 and 2 cards. http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/Alteon/ FYI, Charles -Original Message- From: David Miller [mailto:dmil...@search.sparks.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 1:55 PM To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Gigab

Re: BSD XFS Port & BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-18 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
Terry, It is very fine with this example, but I'm not even going to bother much with it for several reasons, most of which you can find codified in the development rules for X11 which you can find in Scheiflers book. But for the record: your example would get even shorter on the code we had befo

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Wilfredo Sanchez
| Fred, right now what happens in MacOS when I take a disk which has sharing | credentials set up, and hook it into another machine? How are the | credentials handled there? I think Mac OS 8 will forget about the credentials. I don't actually know much about how sharing works. But the cu

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Doug
Wilfredo Sanchez wrote: > > A group of us at Apple are trying to figure out how to handle > situations where a filesystem with "foreign" user ID's are present. > The basic problem is that the user experience using Unix semantics > are not really pleasant. I think some examples would help: > >

Re: Gigabit ethernet support?

1999-08-18 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, David Miller wrote: > Any supported cards in 3.2.x? The HCL pages don't list any:( Support for the Alteon Tigon 1 & 2 based boards and the SysKonnect bards is in 3.2-STABLE. (Both drivers by Bill Paul.) -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/Ne

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Bill Studenmund
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Wilfredo Sanchez wrote: > I think Mac OS 8 will forget about the credentials. I don't > actually know much about how sharing works. > > But the current file sharing behaviour is not entirely useful to > think about, because it doesn't effect the local permissions (mu

Re: lpd security check for changed-file vs NFS

1999-08-18 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 8:48 AM -0500 8/18/99, David Scheidt wrote: On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 6:37 PM -0700 8/17/99, Matthew Dillon wrote: > >If you removed the stat test, I would simply get rid of the -s > >option entirely - require that all files be queued to the print > >spool

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Chris Dillon
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Bill Studenmund wrote: > On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Brian C. Grayson wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 17, 1999 at 07:17:45PM -0700, Wilfredo Sanchez wrote: > > > A group of us at Apple are trying to figure out how to handle > > > situations where a filesystem with "foreign" user ID's a

Re: lpd security check for changed-file vs NFS

1999-08-18 Thread Warner Losh
In message David Scheidt writes: : Couldn't you turn it off only for NFS mounted files? For the general case (eg the code checked into the system), the check needs to remain enabled. Anything else is insecure. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe free

Re: lpd security check for changed-file vs NFS

1999-08-18 Thread Matthew Dillon
:For the general case (eg the code checked into the system), the check :needs to remain enabled. Anything else is insecure. : :Warner I have to agree... whenever one starts discussing weird, esoteric workarounds one inevitably introduces security holes. I really think just disablin

Re: BSD voice synthesis

1999-08-18 Thread Nik Clayton
On Tue, Aug 03, 1999 at 12:37:39AM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: > Just fetched and compiled the "festival" package. > http://www.cstr.ed.ac.uk/projects/festival Likewise, based on your comments. Has anyone had any problems with the volume being far too low? The sound card on this box is a pcm

Re: Gigabit ethernet support?

1999-08-18 Thread Bill Paul
Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Charles Randall had to walk into mine and say: > Bill Paul has developed a driver for the Alteon Tigon 1 and 2 cards. > > http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/Alteon/ > > FYI, > Charles > > -Original Message- > From: David Miller

Re: BSD voice synthesis

1999-08-18 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Tue, Aug 03, 1999 at 12:37:39AM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: > > Just fetched and compiled the "festival" package. > > http://www.cstr.ed.ac.uk/projects/festival > > Likewise, based on your comments. > > Has anyone had any problems with the volume be

Re: lpd security check for changed-file vs NFS

1999-08-18 Thread David Scheidt
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > :For the general case (eg the code checked into the system), the check > :needs to remain enabled. Anything else is insecure. > : > :Warner Oh, absolutely. However, one of the reasons people use an operating system they have source to is to make it w

Re: BSD voice synthesis

1999-08-18 Thread Julian Elischer
I haven't played with it for a few weeks, but I recall seeing a default volume somewhere. (in the documantation) I think you can set it in your init files but I can't go look right now. julian (it seemed ok to me but I didn't test it too much) On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Tue,

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Bill Studenmund
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Chris Dillon wrote: > I'm probably being extremely naive myself, but I just envisioned a > scenario like this (pardon me if someone else has already suggested > this): > > When a filesystem is mounted as foreign (HOW that is determined I > won't talk about), every file in the

anybody love qsort.c?

1999-08-18 Thread Christopher Seiwald
The FreeBSD qsort implementation has a rather nasty degenerate case. If you have data that partitions exactly about the median pivot, yet which is unsorted in either partition, you get get treated to an insertion sort. Example: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 19 18 17 16 14 14 13 12 11 qsort picks

Re: BSD XFS Port & BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-18 Thread Terry Lambert
> Terry, > > It is very fine with this example, but I'm not even going to bother > much with it for several reasons, most of which you can find codified > in the development rules for X11 which you can find in Scheiflers > book. > > But for the record: your example would get even shorter on > the

Re: anybody love qsort.c?

1999-08-18 Thread Archie Cobbs
Christopher Seiwald writes: > The FreeBSD qsort implementation has a rather nasty degenerate case. > If you have data that partitions exactly about the median pivot, yet > which is unsorted in either partition, you get get treated to an insertion > sort. Example: > > 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 19

Re: OpenLDAP tests?

1999-08-18 Thread Steven Ames
Me too. Remarkable what removing a couple of Debug lines will do for you. Thanks! -Steve > Found it. > > This let the tests run fine for me. > > === > RCS file: /repo/OpenLDAP/pkg/ldap/servers/slapd/daemon.c,v > retrieving revision

Re: Gigabit ethernet support?

1999-08-18 Thread David Malone
On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 06:43:24PM -0400, Bill Paul wrote: Just out of curiosity, I thought I saw that you could get Intel Etherexpress 1Gb/s cards. Do these exist and if so would they work with the fxp driver as it is? David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "uns

Re: Gigabit ethernet support?

1999-08-18 Thread Wes Peters
Bill Paul wrote: > > Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Charles Randall > had to walk into mine and say: > > > Bill Paul has developed a driver for the Alteon Tigon 1 and 2 cards. > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/Alteon/ > > > > FYI, > > Charles > > > > -Origi

Re: Gigabit ethernet support?

1999-08-18 Thread Bill Paul
Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, David Malone had to walk into mine and say: > On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 06:43:24PM -0400, Bill Paul wrote: > > Just out of curiosity, I thought I saw that you could get Intel > Etherexpress 1Gb/s cards. Do these exist and if so would they wo

Re: Gigabit ethernet support?

1999-08-18 Thread Kenneth D. Merry
Wes Peters wrote... > Bill Paul wrote: > > > > Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Charles Randall > > had to walk into mine and say: > > > > > Bill Paul has developed a driver for the Alteon Tigon 1 and 2 cards. > > > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/Alteon/ > > > >

Re: anybody love qsort.c?

1999-08-18 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Christopher Seiwald scribbled this message on Aug 18: > It's a pretty straightforward change to bypass the insertion sort for > large subsets of the data. If no one has a strong love for qsort, I'll > educate myself on how to make and contribute this change. why don't you implement this w/ the 5

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
"Ronald G. Minnich" wrote: > > the only portable user ids are names as strings. you can kludge and kludge > but at some point the kludges will pile up too high, fall over, and hurt > somebody. how many new options did we see proposed in the last 12 hours > for this problem? Actually, I think that

Re: async v. sync v. default mode on ufs

1999-08-18 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Larry Lile wrote: > > It was pointed out to me by a co-worker that FreeBSD has actually > three modes of operation for mounting ufs filesystems. Could someone > please explain to me, and him, the differences between the three. There are two kinds of stuff written to the fs: data and metadata. Da

Re: BSD XFS Port & BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-18 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Terry Lambert wrote: > > Make sure that the system you are talking to over the proxy is > not assumed to be a FreeBSD system (e.g. don't assume that the > vfs_default stuff exists on the other end of the proxy, or that > it would be functional). Now, Terry, that is ridiculous. One has to assume t

Re: Gigabit ethernet support?

1999-08-18 Thread Wes Peters
"Kenneth D. Merry" wrote: > > Wes Peters wrote... > > Bill Paul wrote: > > > > > > Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Charles Randall > > > had to walk into mine and say: > > > > > > > Bill Paul has developed a driver for the Alteon Tigon 1 and 2 cards. > > > > > > > >

Re: Budget on user-ppp

1999-08-18 Thread Brian Somers
[.] > > Brian, > > > > The i4b stuff seems to have some sophisticated costing control code (isdn.rates). > > It appears that you can define the costs at different times of day and thereby > > vary the timeouts, etc. I wonder whether any of this can be adapted for "modem >ppp". > > I've add

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Marc Ramirez
On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Wilfredo Sanchez wrote: > A group of us at Apple are trying to figure out how to handle > situations where a filesystem with "foreign" user ID's are present. > The basic problem is that the user experience using Unix semantics > are not really pleasant. I think some

Re: cvs commit: src/bin/test test.c

1999-08-18 Thread Sheldon Hearn
[Hi-jacked out of cvs-committers & cvs-all] On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:18:53 MST, Brian Feldman wrote: > green 1999/08/17 17:18:53 PDT > > Modified files: > bin/test test.c > Log: > The new test(1) did not use access() correctly. I don't know why, since > supposedly

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Izaac
On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Wilfredo Sanchez wrote: > A group of us at Apple are trying to figure out how to handle > situations where a filesystem with "foreign" user ID's are present. [...] > that he can't read the files, because I have a lamer umask, and as a > bonus, I don't have an account

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Ignatios Souvatzis
On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 05:00:48AM -0400, Marc Ramirez wrote: > > I was thinking about this the other day, while mousting a series of floppy > disks, and it seems to me that what you're looking for, at least for > removable media, is a sort of single-user UFS that says "Joe Schmoe owns > this fil

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Marc Ramirez
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Ignatios Souvatzis wrote: > On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 05:00:48AM -0400, Marc Ramirez wrote: > > > > I was thinking about this the other day, while mousting a series of floppy > > disks, and it seems to me that what you're looking for, at least for > > removable media, is a sor

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
> Yeah. That's definitely where I'd start from. I think the main obstacle > for any *BSD system in the ease-of-use department will be the > must-mount-as-root issue. huh? NetBSD (at least) allows non-root mounts (forced to nodev,nosuid, ..) if the user owns the mount point and has appropriat

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Thomas David Rivers
I had a thought on this It seems you are trying to provide the "floppy model" that users currently have with their PCs. User A writes the floppy, User B can read it and do whatever he wants... (I know this is Apple - but I'll stick to MSDOS for the discussion, and "floppy" indicates any r

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Marc Ramirez
[ CC's trimmed ] On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Bill Sommerfeld wrote: > > Yeah. That's definitely where I'd start from. I think the main obstacle > > for any *BSD system in the ease-of-use department will be the > > must-mount-as-root issue. > > huh? NetBSD (at least) allows non-root mounts (force

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread David Malone
On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 07:39:11AM -0400, Marc Ramirez wrote: > Oh! I was under the impression that it just didn't work, even with > correct perms, but I use FreeBSD. Lemme try it... Can't mount, even > with 0666 on /dev/fd0. Maybe I'm being stupid. Wouldn't be the first > time! You have to t

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Alban Hertroys
On 18 Aug, Marc Ramirez wrote: > Oh! I was under the impression that it just didn't work, even with > correct perms, but I use FreeBSD. Lemme try it... Can't mount, even > with 0666 on /dev/fd0. Maybe I'm being stupid. Wouldn't be the first > time! > > Marc. No miracle, the mount command ha

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