Re: GSOC 2013 project " Kernel Size Reduction for Embedded System "

Hi, On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 20:28:04 + Amit Rawat wrote: > GSOC posted the list of selected organization for GSOC 2013 and I am > highly happy that FreeBSD is among the selected organization. > > I am a third year student interested to work in the field of embedded > system. I applied last year

Re: considering i386 as a tier 1 architecture

Hi, On Mon, 1 Apr 2013 00:48:08 -0400 Eitan Adler wrote: > Hi, > > I am writing this email to discuss the i386 architecture in FreeBSD. if not for the date, I just wonder, what significance it real has. Erich ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing

Re: Reviewing a FAQ change about LORs

Hi, On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 19:32:58 -0500 Eitan Adler wrote: > Does someone here mind reviewing > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=174226 for correctness. > > Please feel free to post alternate diffs as a reply as well. > your text makes sense and is easy to understand. Erich __

Re: using FreeBSD to create a completely new OS

Hi, On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 03:08:11 -0500 Aryeh Friedman wrote: > Forgot to mention this project vary well turn into my PhD thesis I would then extremely careful with Java. There are many reasons why assembler and C are still the languages used for OS programming. Erich > ___

Re: 9.x -- New Install -- serious partition misalignment

Hi, On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 16:18:57 -0800 "Ronald F. Guilmette" wrote: > If possibility (c) applies, then I would also like to know if anybody > has any suggestions for how I might be able to get this problem > escalated so that (hopefully) it gets dealt with before 9.1-RELEASE > is finalized. 162

Re: Threaded 6.4 code compiled under 9.0 uses a lot more memory?..

Hi, On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:59:46 + Karl Pielorz wrote: > > > --On 30 October 2012 18:27 +0700 Erich Dollansky > wrote: > > > is it still the same compiler? > > Depends how you mean 'the same' - on the 6.4 system it shows: > >cc (GCC) 3.

Re: Threaded 6.4 code compiled under 9.0 uses a lot more memory?..

Hi, On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:12:22 + Karl Pielorz wrote: > Can anyone think of any quick pointers as to why some code originally > written under 6.4 amd64 - when re-compiled under 9.0-stable amd64 > takes up a *lot* more memory when running? > is it still the same compiler? > As an example

Re: 'device atapicam' breaks the build

Hi, On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:42:44 -0700 Yuri wrote: > Following atapicam(4), I added 'device atapicam' into > sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC. This causes 'make buildkernel' to fail: > > ld -d -warn-common -r -d -o zlib.ko.debug zlib.o > :> export_syms > awk -f /usr/src/sys/conf/kmod_syms.awk zlib.ko.d

Re: FreeBSD 8.0 suddenly freezing

Hi, On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:21:59 -0600 Charles R Martin wrote: > We have a web host installation using FreeBSD 8.0, Tomcat, and Java. > We ship many copies of this, and haven't changed the OS load in > several months. > > In the last 72 hours, we've had two different systems freeze; they > don'

Re: Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD

Hi, On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:39:43 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> desktop environment" or similar ideas? > > > > Tell you what: > > > > When you have at least 75% of the user population of FreeBSD > > agreeing on which window manager we should offer as the default, we > > can talk about

Re: Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD

Hi, On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 17:35:40 +0200 Lorenzo Cogotti wrote: > I was wondering about the possibility of FreeBSD to provide an > official supported graphical environment. for taking resources away from FreeBSD itself? I do not see the need for this as long there is a single item open on the dod

Re: Under FREEBSD network control.

Hi, On Wednesday 18 July 2012 10:17:31 cz li wrote: > I would like to build a bridge using FREEBSD system.At the same time, > they can do the network traffic control.How to do it? if I remember right, it is all in the handbook. You might also check man rc.conf and man ifconfig We will help you

Re: Ways to promote FreeBSD?

Hi, On Monday 30 April 2012 12:14:39 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > > > > Another way to promote FreeBSD - show Solaris first. Yesterday just to > > > look downloaded from oracle. Incredibly slow, no idea > > what's going on not only while installing but when trying to do anything > > and understa

Re: Never forget a special trick...

Hi, On Monday 05 March 2012 12:25:10 Julian Elischer wrote: > On 3/4/12 12:47 PM, Devin Teske wrote: > > On Mar 4, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Phillip Spring wrote: > > > >> Dear anonymous open-source enthusiasts friends, > >> > >> How to echo a string backwards into a terminal? > >> For example (or someth

Re: Freebsd on the sun x4440

Hi, I would like to suggest to try 8.2. It is my experience that the different version behave very different on the same hardware. It does not mean that the newer version is the better. As an example, I have a machine here on 7.x as 8.0 did not support the USB hardware found. After a machine w

Re: SIGSTOP and SIGKILL

Hi, On Monday 14 March 2011 11:41:21 Ravi Murty wrote: > > Any good solutions to this problem? did you try your program on 8.2? Erich ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscrib

Re: SIGSTOP and SIGKILL

ich can be enabled via the DEADLKRES option, see NOTES for more details) and the sleepq_type() function for sleepqueues. Erich > > On Mar 13, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Erich Dollansky > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On Monday 14 March 2011 11:41:21 Ravi Murty w

Re: Spin down HDD after disk sync or before power off

Hi, let me do. On 04 February 2010 am 04:44:04 Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 3 Feb 2010, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > Alexander Best wrote: > > No -- *Please* make sure that the disks are only spun down > > upon an actual power-off command (i.e. when reboot() is > > Could you elaborate a little o

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

Hi, On 03 February 2010 am 06:36:21 Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Kirk McKusick wrote: > > Thanks for the pointer. As you note, the damage (or benefit :-) is > > done. Still I have sent an email to the editor at Spiegel notifying > > them of my copyright in the hopes that they will at least ask in the

Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

Hi, On 02 February 2010 pm 23:21:12 Christoph Kukulies wrote: > Look here: > > http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-51396-2.html > it reminds me of movies in which good guys use Apple, bad guys Windows. Erich ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org m

Re: enable ECC in OS code?

Hi, On 27 August 2009 am 06:53:36 Steve Watt wrote: > In <4a954a35.4030...@icyb.net.ua>, a...@icyb.net.ua wrote: > >Assuming that ECC data lanes are connected between the two on > > motherboard, and given that BIOS doesn't perform any ECC > > setup (nor there is any option to control that) - would

Re: multiple interrupts between cli and sti

Hi, Andriy Gapon wrote: I cannot tell you if this is still the same for modern designs. ... -> iret -> interrupted again This was the behaviour earlier. Is this a deterministic behavior ? Or some timings are at play? The PIC should never release the Interrupt signal to the CPU as long as

Re: Architectures with strict alignment?

Hi, Kostik Belousov wrote: On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 05:38:43PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: Kostik Belousov wrote: On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 01:12:04PM +0200, Kostik Belousov wrote: On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 12:14:11AM -0800, Kip Macy wrote: I.e., it seems that gcc does not feel too guilty

Re: Architectures with strict alignment?

Hi, Kostik Belousov wrote: On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 01:12:04PM +0200, Kostik Belousov wrote: On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 12:14:11AM -0800, Kip Macy wrote: I.e., it seems that gcc does not feel too guilty generating unaligned half-word writes on i386. :( this should not be a problem inside a cach

Re: Architectures with strict alignment?

tream. Erich -Kip On Dec 29, 2007 12:11 AM, Erich Dollansky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Ivan Voras wrote: Hi, Which of the architectures FreeBSD supports (if any) have strict memory alignment requirements? (in the sense that accessing a 32-bit integer not aligned on a 32-bit address r

Re: Architectures with strict alignment?

Hi, Ivan Voras wrote: Hi, Which of the architectures FreeBSD supports (if any) have strict memory alignment requirements? (in the sense that accessing a 32-bit integer not aligned on a 32-bit address results in a hardware trap/exception). isn't this the case with SPARC and Itanium? I know, t

Re: OT: C++ Template Functions

Hi, Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote: Am Donnerstag, 27. Dezember 2007 16:42:29 schrieb Erich Dollansky: Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote: The problem is most probably related to the fact that the group of member functions is only discriminated by return type (i.e., the template parameter defines the

Re: OT: C++ Template Functions

Hi, Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote: The problem is most probably related to the fact that the group of member functions is only discriminated by return type (i.e., the template parameter defines the return type), not by parameter (which could be inferred). if nothing got changed over the last

Re: handling pdfs?

Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally find that xpdf looks OK. Same here, though I do remember to have that cramped characters problem before. I think it was in PDFs created by OpenOffice swriter. When I used the "other" OS to print these PDFs, there were cramped characters THe other OS?

Re: Video memory as swap under FreeBSD

Hi, Achim Patzner wrote: Am 14.10.2007 um 10:24 schrieb Alexander Motin: Dag-Erling Smørgrav пишет: Arne Schwabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: VIdeo RAM may also not be as stable as your main RAM. I mean nobody if a bit flips in video ram. That may have been true fifteen years ago, but not

Re: OS choice

Hi, FreeBSD should not have anz limits zou will ever reach if zou provide the right hardware. You should also consider the licence. FreeBSD doesn't force you to publish any of your own work. Erich Kirc Gover wrote: We are in the stage of planning and research for a commercial development o

Re: freeBSD

Hi, shyam burkule wrote: Hi All I am new to freeBSD .I am doing engineering from india...and doing my graduate project in memory management area.I really need a patch that it seems to me that you are the perfect guy the provide the patch as you have all the knowledge. Erich implements pa

Re: Core Duo - only one cpu being used

Hi, Eric Anderson wrote: Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, Eric Anderson wrote: PID USERNAMETHR PRI NICE SIZERES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 11 root 1 171 52 0K 8K CPU1 0 0:00 99.02% idle: cpu1 2653 root 1 1280 18564K 17560K RUN0 0:01

Re: Core Duo - only one cpu being used

Hi, Eric Anderson wrote: PID USERNAMETHR PRI NICE SIZERES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 11 root 1 171 52 0K 8K CPU1 0 0:00 99.02% idle: cpu1 2653 root 1 1280 18564K 17560K RUN0 0:01 34.00% cc1plus could it be that it is just a probl

Re: Core Duo - only one cpu being used

Hi, this is hard to believe. Just add -S to the command line or enter S while top is running. Top should show you then on top the two idle threads. Erich Eric Anderson wrote: Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, Eric Anderson wrote: All processes are on cpu 0. Output of sysctl dev.cpu shows

Re: Core Duo - only one cpu being used

Hi, Eric Anderson wrote: All processes are on cpu 0. Output of sysctl dev.cpu shows: can you show all tasks running? Erich ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send

Re: workstation DNS issue

Hi, Ashok Shrestha wrote: %less /etc/resolv.conf #search 192.168.1.1 nameserver 204.127.202.19 nameserver 216.148.227.79 nameserver 68.87.68.162 before going deeper. Did you try to change the sequence of these entries? Try it and compare then the results. Erich _

Re: Build Kernels fails with

Hi, John Baldwin wrote: On Friday 21 April 2006 12:24 am, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, ist looks to me that this is still true for a 32 bit kernel. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-amd64/2005-July/005592.html This error message appears if_ural.o(.text+0x205): In function

Build Kernels fails with

Hi, ist looks to me that this is still true for a 32 bit kernel. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-amd64/2005-July/005592.html This error message appears if_ural.o(.text+0x205): In function `ural_next_scan': /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/if_ural.c:699: undefined reference to `ieee80211_next_sc

Re: install the FreeBSD (notbook Toshiba)

Hi, Eder wrote: this sounds German. Pliss, Please? I am trying to install the FreeBSD in one notbook Toshiba Tecra M3 S336, and simply the following error happens: This is not an error message. It is just a status message. Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1862079434 Hz quality 800 Timecount

Re: IBM Active Protection System Approach

Hi, Daniel O'Connor wrote: On Tuesday 23 August 2005 21:38, Erich Dollansky wrote: The sensor will notice already the start of the move. The notebook will then normally be accalerated with 1G as it simply goes into a free fall. If the heads are then moved away from the disks and the not

Re: IBM Active Protection System Approach

Hi, Gary Jennejohn wrote: Borja Marcos writes: Søren Schmidt writes: It seems to me that the worst-case scenario, dropping the laptop, would result in extremely high G-loading in microsecomds rather than milliseconds. Not much can be done to save the disk in such a short time. The sensor w

Re: IBM Active Protection System Approach

Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what would be the best approach to implement aps on FreeBSD? Go as deep as possible into the disk driver. The reason is pretty simple. Just stop any write access to the disk as soon as the machine starts moving above a given limit. If the movement is above a high

Re: FreeBSD desktop?

Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:10 AM 8/2/2005 +0200, Karel Miklav wrote: | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Karel. I got my FreeBSD desktop up and running. It's on X window and gnome. I am not sure about setting up the window manager, but may try that You have already one window manager

Re: To C++ or not to C++

Hi, Peter Jeremy wrote: On Sat, 2005-Jun-25 16:37:00 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: i don't think this is the suitable mailling list to ask this question aren't hackers the people who have the real-life experience? What will a C programmer tell? What will a Java programmer tell?

Re: To C++ or not to C++

Hi, Maslan wrote: i don't think this is the suitable mailling list to ask this question aren't hackers the people who have the real-life experience? What will a C programmer tell? What will a Java programmer tell? Isn't it much better to ask here? Erich On 6/24/05, Seán C. Farley <[EMAIL

Re: To C++ or not to C++

Hi, Ryan Sommers wrote: Anyway, without getting into too much detail. Anyone had to make this choice on a project? What were your thoughts in retrospect? What would you have done different, what would stay the same... No matter what kind of project I did after the C++ hype was over it was in

Re: Long uptime 5.2.1 server

Hi, Dimitry Andric wrote: On 2005-06-18 at 10:30:58 Kevin Day wrote: We've got a FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p1 server that's been up for 460 days now, with pretty heavy use the whole time (70GB+ per day http traffic, 140 hits/sec, etc). Funny that some people insist on complaining about 5.x i

Re: X86 machine code enter and FreeBSD kernel

Hi, Reko Turja wrote: I received no reply on this question at questions mailing list, so I try asking this here. Hope I'm not asking this in completely wrong list. In recent discussion in OpenWatcom lists it was noticed that at least certain addressing modes of assembler ENTER instruction caus

Re: Version 4.4 sick and dying

Hi, Sydney Hole & Owen Huffaker wrote: Wonder if you can give me a little advise. But not much more. I do have a copy of BSD 4.5 and 5.o from a FreeBSD Unleashed book by Michael Urban and Brian Tieman. I also have the absolute BSD by Michael Lucas. I would not touch them as they are real

Re: Screen Resolution

Hi, Hervé Kergourlay wrote: Erich Dollansky a écrit : Hervé Kergourlay wrote: It has to be there. bad luck for me I don't know if it's important but I'm in a vmware configuration for FreeBSD, vmware supply a tools kit but the tools is not available specifically for Fre

Re: Screen Resolution

Hi, Hervé Kergourlay wrote: xorgconfig I launch this tools but I 'm not sure of the screen resolution details, vertical refresh rate, horizontal sync rate, ... I fill the answers with standard values Do not do this. You must have the details for you monitor. Especially if it is a CRT, it co

Re: Screen Resolution

Hi, Hervé Kergourlay wrote: thanks for the doc It seems that in FreeBSD 5.3, Xorg is installed as default but there is no xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 This is normal. I deinstall and reinstall Xorg manually but there is no more xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 so I can't modify the screen resol

Re: Screen Resolution

Hi, Hervé Kergourlay wrote: Erich Dollansky a écrit : edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf I don't have any xorg.conf in /etc/X11 ? the directory /etc/X11 is empty pkg_info give me : xorg-6.7.0_1 It looks like that you did not configure your X server. Check the handbook how to do it. It

Re: Screen Resolution

Hi, Hervé Kergourlay wrote: Erich Dollansky a écrit : I install FreeBSD 5.3 with the standard option, the X process in /usr/X11R6/bin/X is running So, it should be X.Org. I run startx to start the X server edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf There should be a section 'Screen'. In

Re: Screen Resolution

Hi, what X do you run? Did you configure X for a higher resolution? Erich Hervé Kergourlay wrote: Just one simple question on the screen resolution on FreeBSD 5.3 I change the xinitrc to launch gnome-wm and gnome-panel but I can't change the resolution in the Desktop Preferences / Screen R

Re: Files in C.

Hi, Pablo Mora wrote: I know that this is not the place to consult on programming C. But I am so enthusiastic in FreeBSD that I want to learn more on the language C and someday coming to be a small part of which you already To get this a bit in line with FreeBSD: FreeBSD comes with the GNU compile

Re: imminent disk failure ?

Hi, you never can exclude it, but did you check the cabling? It is not always the drive itself. Erich H. S. wrote: Hi gang, I have a server running 4.X for almost two years now, without problems - rock solid as it should be - yesterday the server became unresponsive, now that I have access again, a

Re: clock time in milliseconds into a c program

Hi, Alin-Adrian Anton wrote: For this snippet (which deals with a B+tree) i got results of the form 0.3445866564 microseconds, which means 344.5867 miliseconds.. etc.. You mixed the units up 1 second is 1 000 ms which is 1 000 000 µs which is 1 000 000 000 ns. Erich __

Re: cpu update

Hi, Tony Sheehan wrote: I have a PC which has a AMD 1900 XP cpu and a Gigabyte 7VTXE+ motherboard. I decided to upgrade to a 2600 Barton chip which seemed OK according to the Gigabyte site. However, after installing the chip my system crashes frequently (and randomly?) often when opening Outlook

Re: SMP on quad xeons

Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Posted to freebsd-smp but didn't get too many replies, so I apologize for I am on that list too but I can't remember your posting. cross posting ahead of time. Need to configure groupware server and multiprotocol wireless proxy for aproximatly 2500 accounts. Applicatio

Re: FreeBSD and MacOS

Hi, Martin Olsson wrote: Hi, * MacOS X is based on FreeBSD * there is a x86 kernel for FreeBSD Does that mean I can buy a copy of MacOS X, download an x86 kernel for freeBSD, do some (or quite alot of) hacking and then get MacOS X running on my PC? take a look at the Darwin project. I realize th

Re: suggestions ?

Hi, talk about the devil: http://news3.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-06/03/content_1506278.htm This is a potential target application. Erich ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any

Re: suggestions ?

Hi, Saber ZRELLI wrote: Erich Dollansky wrote: if my browser is connected to google and yahoo , then i need to distinguish what data is coming from whish server , so it can be treated correctly ... It will not work for google or yahoo how they work currently. I think i'm missing something ..

Re: suggestions ?

Hi, Saber ZRELLI wrote: Erich Dollansky wrote: If multiple servers provide the data, it should not matter which server provides it. I see what you mean , you are talking at higher level , It does not have to be at a higher level. when i mentioned Robust TCP/IP i meant TCP connections in the

Re: suggestions ?

Hi, Saber ZRELLI wrote: Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, Saber ZRELLI wrote: Hello Dear Seniors , i was looking for some interesting issue related to FreeBSD networking , to make it my master thesis , but i couldn't find such a topic , certainly because i'm not a FreeBSD expert ( but

Re: suggestions ?

Hi, Aniruddha Bohra wrote: i was thinking about implementing Robust TCP/IP connections .. but somebody told me that is not very consistent , and i think so also , Did you consider fault-tolerant TCP/IP connections to multiple servers? See these : This one is heavy-weight, whole process wrappin

Re: suggestions ?

Hi, Saber ZRELLI wrote: Hello Dear Seniors , i was looking for some interesting issue related to FreeBSD networking , to make it my master thesis , but i couldn't find such a topic , certainly because i'm not a FreeBSD expert ( but i will be =) ) , so could any member here , especially contributors

Re: Power consumption in desktop computers

Hi, Marcin Dalecki wrote: Erich Dollansky wrote: The actual power can go down to less than 10% if the CPU is idle. Are these business-grade ones maybe equipped with mobile P-4s? No, it is just the fact that modern CPU are most of the time just idle. Which is bullshit becouse most of the

Re: Power consumption in desktop computers

Hi, Martin Cracauer wrote: Tim Kientzle wrote on Sun, Dec 28, 2003 at 11:22:10AM -0800: Ouch! I've tested a bunch of 'business-grade' desktops around my office, and they all run 40-60 watts during normal use (not including monitor) with peak power at boot time up to 70-80 watts. This includes

Re: Power consumption in desktop computers

Hi, Martin Cracauer wrote: Hi, those who followed might have noticed I was shopping for a notebook to replace some of my desktop system. To make it short, the notebook vendors all pissed me off so good that I'm not going to get a notebook (details on request) so I am going for other options. I

Re: CC swiper / Cash machine

Hi, take a look at the web-site of Schlumberger. They do machines like this. All the documentation needed should be there. There is even a standard behind. Most machines follow this standard. Only the fields vary. Yes, most machines are connected via RS232. The protocol is pretty easy to do.