Re: Errors from the ata disk driver

1999-12-13 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > These are UDMA CRC errors, if you upgrade to the latest current, ata > > knows to retry these, only if they persist, something is wrong. > > However it could indicate cable problems, ie bad connectors or maybe > > too long cables.. > > > > He said the dis

Re: Errors from the ata disk driver

1999-12-13 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Will the backdown to PIO mode be permanent till the next reboot of the > machine, or will the driver be able to attempt to return to DMA mode after > a timeout period. I'm only seeing these errors under really heavy disk > activity (mutlitple nfs readers and wr

Re: ATA problem

1999-12-13 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Greg Childers writes: > > Hello, > > > > Seems now is the time to raise problems with ATA, so here goes. I have used the >ATA driver > > since its introduction into -current without problem until recently. A kernel >from October > > 5 worked fine. No

Re: ATA weird message?

1999-12-13 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Mike Smith wrote: > > It seems Munehiro Matsuda wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I am using -current as of December 9 (CTM:src-cur.4130.gz), and > > > got following weird ATA related messages while 'make -j4 buildworld'. > > > I never had this kind of message when using wd drivers. > > >

Re: rtc0

1999-12-13 Thread Mike Smith
statclock_disable is set to 1 if you have the 0x20 flag set on your APM device. This should probably no longer be the default. > Oops, try this patch instead, again, it's done wrong, but I couldn't > figure out why statclock_disable was getting a value, and I don't have > time to figure it out

netstat to show listen queues

1999-12-13 Thread Guido van Rooij
I'd like to have a review on the following patch: http://www.freebsd.org/~guido/netstat.diff It adds support to netstat to show listen queue lengths. Manual page diffs are in the working. -Guido To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of th

Re: make world broken building fortunes

1999-12-13 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Peter Jeremy wrote: > > >===> games/fortune/datfiles > >PATH=$PATH:/usr/games:/usr/obj/3.0/cvs/src/games/fortune/datfiles/../strfile >strfile -Crs /3.0/cvs/src/games/fortune/datfiles/fortunes fortunes.dat > >strfile: illegal option -- C > >strfile [-iorsx] [-c char] sourcefile [datafile] > >***

Re: make world broken building fortunes

1999-12-13 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:42:36 +0100, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > I think the easiest solution would be (instead of your patches of > course): > -STRICTTMPPATH= ${WORLDTMP}/bin:${WORLDTMP}/usr/bin > +STRICTTMPPATH= ${WORLDTMP}/bin:${WORLDTMP}/usr/bin:${WORLDTMP}/usr/games Only if you preceded the

HEADS UP ata driver update!

1999-12-13 Thread Soren Schmidt
I've just committed a bunch of fixes and enhancements to the ATA driver, so before submitting new bug reports, PLEASE upgrade to the newest sources, thanks! -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: make world broken building fortunes

1999-12-13 Thread Peter Wemm
Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > > On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:42:36 +0100, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > > I think the easiest solution would be (instead of your patches of > > course): > > > -STRICTTMPPATH= ${WORLDTMP}/bin:${WORLDTMP}/usr/bin > > +STRICTTMPPATH= ${WORLDTMP}/bin:${WORLDTMP}/usr/bin:${WORLDT

RELEASE timelines

1999-12-13 Thread Matthew Thyer
What is the big rush to 4.0-RELEASE ? With all the new functionality and recent changes there are some things that need to be bedded in (I'm thinking newpcm and ATA). Maybe I'm saying this because my SB16 PnP has only just been fixed and my CD-ROM drive doesn't work under the ATA driver (I'm abo

Re: RELEASE timelines

1999-12-13 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 00:34:28 +1030, Matthew Thyer wrote: > What is the big rush to 4.0-RELEASE ? We are relying on public awareness of the fact that .0 releases (in just about any project) are _going_ to have issues. We need the 4 branch out out there in the hands of the masses. Ciao, Sheldo

Re: RELEASE timelines

1999-12-13 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On 13-Dec-99 Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > > On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 00:34:28 +1030, Matthew Thyer wrote: > >> What is the big rush to 4.0-RELEASE ? > > We are relying on public awareness of the fact that .0 releases (in just > about any project) are _going_ to have issues. We need the 4 branch out >

Re: RELEASE timelines

1999-12-13 Thread Donn Miller
On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > Tell a computer to WIN and ... >... You lose Actually, I always thought there was something subliminal about typing "WIN". Funny how they didn't choose "WIND". It's like, you're typing "WIN", so you in

Re: What happened to netstat?

1999-12-13 Thread Yoshinobu Inoue
> On Sun, Dec 12, 1999 at 10:37:01AM -0500, Donald J . Maddox wrote: > > After rebuilding World and kernel last night, I find that the behavior of > > 'netstat -a' has changed... Only UNIX domain sockets are shown in the > > Errr... may I complain ? > I got the same problem :( > > current last

netstat to show listen queues

1999-12-13 Thread Garrett Wollman
< said: > I'd like to have a review on the following patch: > http://www.freebsd.org/~guido/netstat.diff > It adds support to netstat to show listen queue lengths. > Manual page diffs are in the working. Looks good to me. -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsub

FW: RE: RELEASE timelines

1999-12-13 Thread will andrews
On 13-Dec-99 Matthew Thyer wrote: > Consider the 2.2 stream that went through many more releases (counting > 2.2.1 -> 2.2.8). Using that yardstick you'd expect 4.0 to stay in > development until 3.7 is released. I know 7 releases of the 2.2 stream > was considerred a few too many but surely we

boot failed with "options ata0" & etc. at kernel...

1999-12-13 Thread Sergey Osokin
Hello! I rebuild all ad* devices at /dev with new MAKEDEV from /usr/src/etc at my -current, but still have following problem... ... ata-pci0: at device 7.1 on pci0 ata-pci0: Busmastering DMA supported ata0 at 0x01f0 irq 14 on ata-pci0 ata1 at 0x0170 irq 15 on ata-pci0 ... ad0: A

Re: make world broken building fortunes

1999-12-13 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> > > On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:42:36 +0100, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > > I think the easiest solution would be (instead of your patches of > > course): > > > -STRICTTMPPATH= ${WORLDTMP}/bin:${WORLDTMP}/usr/bin > > +STRICTTMPPATH= ${WORLDTMP}/bin:${WORLDTMP}/usr/bin:${WORLDTMP}/usr/games > > On

Re: ppp over pty: trying to detect CD

1999-12-13 Thread Brian Somers
Ah, I see the problem. I have a fix - I'm about to apply it to -current and ask jkh for permission to MFC. I've attached the -stable patch for your viewing enjoyment > > "JH" == Jon Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > JH> Running -current from this afternoon, I am having a st

Speaking of moving files (Re: make world broken building fortunes)

1999-12-13 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: > I wonder if we should move fortune to usr.bin? It's hardly a game and I'm > way beyond tired of it being left out of standard paths... > (ie: "/bin:/usr/bin[:/usr/local/bin]") I have no opinion about fortune, but I do think that md5 should be moved from

Re: netstat to show listen queues

1999-12-13 Thread Clive Lin
Hi, it looks GREAT ! X clive@cartier ~> netstat -a -f inet -L Current listen queue sizes (qlen/incqlen/maxqlen) Listen Local Address 0/0/5 *.1029 0/0/5 *.1028 0/0/5 *.1027 0/0/5 *.1026

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
> "Mike" == Mike Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mike> The "right" solution is and has always been to name your Mike> disks and mount them by name. Once devfs is a reality, Mike> we'll be able to do just this. Until then, the problem's Mike> not really as bad as you make i

Re: Errors from the ata disk driver

1999-12-13 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Soren Schmidt writes: > It seems Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > These are UDMA CRC errors, if you upgrade to the latest current, ata > > > knows to retry these, only if they persist, something is wrong. > > > However it could indicate cable problems, ie bad connectors or maybe > > > too lo

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Anthony Kimball
What I didn't like about CAM was that I lost my tape drive. Since I had all my backups and archives on DAT, it felt like a bad thing. Which reminds me -- can anyone spare a 2.1 CD? Please send me private mail, if so: I foolishly neglected to convert to CD, and now I can't find 2.1 on the web an

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Kenneth D. Merry
On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 15:45:15 -0600, Anthony Kimball wrote: > > What I didn't like about CAM was that I lost my tape drive. Since I > had all my backups and archives on DAT, it felt like a bad thing. What do you mean you "lost" your tape drive? CAM has included a tape driver almost from day

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 11 December 1999 at 8:52:28 +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Warner Losh writes: >> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Poul-Henning Kamp writes: >> : You overlook one simple thing here: If we want the ata driver tested, >> : we need to make existing kern

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 10 December 1999 at 19:01:49 +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nate Williams writes: >>> In a few days time the wd driver will be retired from FreeBSDs >>> i386 architecture. >> >> Given that the ATA driver just went active a few minutes ago, I think a >>

Wiring drive IDs (was: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!)

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Lehey
p On Saturday, 11 December 1999 at 18:28:42 +0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > Dieter Rothacker wrote: >> On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 14:21:25 +0800 (WST), Michael Kennett wrote: >> >>> Note that wd1 is not present. This caused a mild hickup when rebooting the >>> new kernel, since the new ata controller assigne

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 10 December 1999 at 19:19:43 +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nate Williams writes: > And your point is? I'm a user, not a developer. If I wanted to be a developer, I'd have written my own device driver. I want to *USE* FreeBSD, not dev

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 11 December 1999 at 15:03:19 +1000, Stephen McKay wrote: > On Friday, 10th December 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > >> The same mentality that made the CAM cutover a "debacle" is making the >> ata cutover a "debacle". > > This "mentality" might be an unavoidable part of human nature. I fou

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 11 December 1999 at 12:39:15 +1000, Stephen McKay wrote: > > But that shouldn't stop us from moving forward with the ata driver. I > think that a small slowing of the pace, and a bit more understanding toward > those with unusual hardware will help. And I support PHK's hard line > s

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 11 December 1999 at 2:09:48 +0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nate Williams writes: In a few days time the wd driver will be retired from FreeBSDs i386 architecture. >>> >>> Given that the ATA driver just went active a fe

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 11 December 1999 at 0:55:15 +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kris Ken > naway writes: > >> No-one (as far as I can see) is objecting to making ata the default (which >> it already is), and to kill wd in some number of weeks. Why can't you just >> do t

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 10 December 1999 at 17:54:14 -0800, Mike Smith wrote: >>> If half as much energy was spent adding the missing bits of functionality >>> to the new systems as people have been spending complaining it then we'd be >>> there ages ago. >> >> Not true. It doesn't take a disk expert to compl

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 10 December 1999 at 17:11:53 +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Greg Lehey writes: > >> We're getting off track again: the real issue is that you shouldn't >> completely replace old drivers with new, better written, less buggy >> drivers which have signifi

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 10 December 1999 at 23:32:27 -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > [missing attribution to Greg Childers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] >> Except that ATA currently does not work on my system. So I assume I'm not >> the only one. > > Actually, to quote from your original message: > >> According to technica

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 10 December 1999 at 19:04:33 +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nate Williams writes: >>> What we need here is a commitment to these new initiatives, not a lot of >>> fence-sitting and clutching our knitting to our chests. >> >> If all our users were devel

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 11 December 1999 at 0:02:47 +0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: >> -On [19991209 16:03], Greg Lehey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >>> On Wednesday, 8 December 1999 at 20:23:24 +0100, Brad Knowles wrote: This is -CURRENT. It pains me to say it, but any

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 10 December 1999 at 22:44:36 +0100, Soren Schmidt wrote: > It seems Nate Williams wrote: >>> If half as much energy was spent adding the missing bits of functionality >>> to the new systems as people have been spending complaining it then we'd be >>> there ages ago. >> >> Not true. It

Re: vinum start needs block device

1999-12-13 Thread Bill Fumerola
On Sun, 12 Dec 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: > > -if (drive->vp->v_type != VBLK) { /* only consider bl > ock devices */ > > +if (!vn_isdisk(drive->vp)) { /* only consider bl Note: this fixes some recent problems (Hi Greg!) that I've been havi

Re: ATA weird message?

1999-12-13 Thread Munehiro Matsuda
From: Soren Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 08:33:43 +0100 (CET) ::It seems Munehiro Matsuda wrote: ::> Hi all, ::> ::> I am using -current as of December 9 (CTM:src-cur.4130.gz), and ::> got following weird ATA related messages while 'make -j4 buildworld'. ::> I never had this

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Peter Wemm
Greg Lehey wrote: > On Friday, 10 December 1999 at 23:32:27 -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > > [missing attribution to Greg Childers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > >> Except that ATA currently does not work on my system. So I assume I'm not > >> the only one. > > > > Actually, to quote from your original messa

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 1999-Dec-12 05:54:12 +1100, Greg Lehey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Friday, 10 December 1999 at 19:01:49 +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> The ata driver has been available for you and other to test for a long >> time. > >Oh. Somehow I missed this. Sure, I saw commits, but I can't recall a

Re: Anybody actually using gigabit ethernet?

1999-12-13 Thread N
Hi, Garrett Wollman wrote on 11 May 1999: [Netgear GigE PCI interface] > I'm buying one of these cards today ($319.99 from NECX) and will stick > it into a machine here on our new Gigabit backbone. I'm particularly > interested to test out the VLAN support, since my Secret Plan is to > have thi

Re: Errors from the ata disk driver

1999-12-13 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Andrew Gallatin writes: > > Soren Schmidt writes: > > I've fixed it here (I hope), and it will be in the next batch of fixes. > > I hope to get through my mailbox today :) > > Thanks. I'm running a kernel built with them now. If/when we see CRC > errors, I'll let you know what happ

4.0-CURRENT boot kernel, ATA_16BIT_ONLY , etc.

1999-12-13 Thread Valentin S. Chopov
Hi, The latest 4.0-CURRENT boot floppies are not working on old ISA boards with 16-bit data transfer only, and the installation of FreeBSD becomes impossible:( . It seems that in this case ATA_16BIT_ONLY is not enough - may be flags to ata0 controller or auto-detection as Soren promised will be O

2.1 (was: wd driver will be retired)

1999-12-13 Thread Oliver Fromme
Anthony Kimball wrote in list.freebsd-current: > What I didn't like about CAM was that I lost my tape drive. Since I > had all my backups and archives on DAT, it felt like a bad thing. I don't think that's related to CAM. At least my crappy HP 1533A drive (DDS2) still works with CAM. > Whic

Re: ppp over pty: trying to detect CD

1999-12-13 Thread Brian Somers
This is now fixed in -stable (and -current). > > > "JH" == Jon Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > JH> Running -current from this afternoon, I am having a strange > > JH> symptom with ppp over a pty; ppp does not detect that the pty > > JH> does not support carrier, and

Re: Speaking of moving files (Re: make world broken building fortunes)

1999-12-13 Thread Doug White
On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: > > > I wonder if we should move fortune to usr.bin? It's hardly a game and I'm > > way beyond tired of it being left out of standard paths... > > (ie: "/bin:/usr/bin[:/usr/local/bin]") > > I have no opinion abo

Re: Speaking of moving files (Re: make world broken building fortunes )

1999-12-13 Thread Louis A. Mamakos
> On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: > > > > > I wonder if we should move fortune to usr.bin? It's hardly a game and I'm > > > way beyond tired of it being left out of standard paths... > > > (ie: "/bin:/usr/bin[:/usr/local/bin]") > > > > I h

Re: Speaking of moving files (Re: make world broken building fortunes )

1999-12-13 Thread Bill Fumerola
On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Louis A. Mamakos wrote: > So how about /usr/sbin/chown -> /sbin/chown so that MAKEDEV works with > just the root file system mounted? As one who just got his ass bitten by this, I would vote yes. -- - bill fumerola - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - BF1560 - computer horizons corp -

sysinstall: is it really at the end of its lifecycle?

1999-12-13 Thread Eric Jones
Folks, In looking through the sysinstall source, I noticed that the man page states that "This product is currently at the end of its life cycle and will eventually be replaced." Is there any truth to this? Apparently this verbiage was introduced in rev 1.20 because the previous text claime

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Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Childers
At 07:40 AM 12/14/99 +0800, Peter Wemm wrote: >Greg Lehey wrote: > > On Friday, 10 December 1999 at 23:32:27 -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > > > [missing attribution to Greg Childers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > >> Except that ATA currently does not work on my system. So I assume I'm not > > >> the only o

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Amancio Hasty
> 3. Get pissed off with FreeBSD and go elsewhere. don't worry I am sure that quite a few user have left already. This kind of situation reminds of when I accidently broke the gus max backwards compatibility. An old friend of mine sent me a quiet note stating that he switch OSes cause he cou

pcm playback becomes weird.

1999-12-13 Thread Clive Lin
Cvsup last night, after rebuild world and kernel, things become weird. part of my dmesg: sbc0: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq 5 drq 1,5 on isa0 pcm0: on sbc0 whenever I wany to play anyting via esd, the EsounD report unsupported sound format: 33 Audio device open for 4

Re: Among the ATA casualties...

1999-12-13 Thread Adam Wight
On Sun, Dec 12, 1999 at 11:08:24PM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > You'll need to take this up with Soren; I suspect though that the simplest > answer for you is going to be to stick with 'wd' until you get yourself a > less-broken disk, or manage to analyse the problem in greater depth. Ideally I (w

Re: sysinstall: is it really at the end of its lifecycle?

1999-12-13 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> that "This product is currently at the end of its life cycle and will > eventually > be replaced." The handy thing about "eventually" is that it can be a long time. :) > Amusingly, the man page author (Jordan?) says, "This utility is a > prototype which lasted approximately 3 years past its e

QIC 40/80 floppy tape drive controller

1999-12-13 Thread Richard Furda
Hello, I have a QIC 40/80 clone floppy tape drive controller (running 3.3-stable) and wondering if anyone is working/thinking about porting the ft driver to 3.X/4.X branch. I understand the driver was "removed" in 2.2.8 due to incompatibility issues. I'd like to help out, thus give access

Re: QIC 40/80 floppy tape drive controller

1999-12-13 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Richard Furda writes: : I have a QIC 40/80 clone floppy tape drive controller (running : 3.3-stable) and wondering if anyone is working/thinking about porting the : ft driver to 3.X/4.X branch. I understand the driver was "removed" : in 2.2.8 due to incompatibility