On Saturday, 11 December 1999 at 0:02:47 +0800, Peter Wemm wrote:
> Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote:
>> -On [19991209 16:03], Greg Lehey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, 8 December 1999 at 20:23:24 +0100, Brad Knowles wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This is -CURRENT. It pains me to say it, but anyone trying to
>>>> run anything "useful" on -CURRENT gets what they deserve. This is
>>>> the only place where we can make clean breaks with the past, and as
>>>> painful as that can be, we simply have to do that occasionally.
>>>
>>> Next month it'll be -RELEASE. This isn't the time to remove such
>>> significant functionality. If it weren't for that, I'd agree with
>>> you.
>>
>> Think about that some more.
>>
>> After that it will be 4.1. Nice to give people a driver and then rip it
>> out when 4.1 comes when Soren fixes the last of the things people
>> needed to have into the ata driver.
>>
>> I was already testing the ata driver and even procured some more info
>> for Soren than he already had. Same goes for a bunch of other people.
>> But the opposite goes for a lot of people.
>>
>> People running CURRENT to be cutting edge as in being elite with the
>> latest FreeBSD thus get bitten.
>>
>> I'd say, cut loose the wd driver. (VoxWare removed would be cool too.)
>
> If half as much energy was spent adding the missing bits of functionality
> to the new systems as people have been spending complaining it then we'd be
> there ages ago. Trying desperately to prolong the agony by keeping the old
> stuff on life support is counter productive.
There's more than energy involved. We need the hardware.
> Damn it people! If you want cyrix busmaster support, then the code
> is there, it's not all that hard to extract and adapt the cyrix code
> to ata. If you have got cyrix hardware and can test your work, then
> even better.
Who are you talking to? The relatively non-technical people who buy
the CDs because they know that FreeBSD is a reliable, no-problems
operating system. Then they discover that functionality they had is
gone again. Send that to /. and smoke it.
Like it or not, we have a reputation to maintain. We have to live up
to expectations.
Greg
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