Re: [Foundation-l] Facebook Group re pornography on Wikipedia

Yes, and some people don't like the fact that we tell the truth about, say, the Taiwan situation (or at least we try our very best to), or the Tienanmen Square protests of 1989. I think it's very stupid to equate "people don't like this" to "this is a problem". So yes, the situation is still unch

Re: [Foundation-l] Facebook Group re pornography on Wikipedia

hoose a set of principles and stick with them. At least that way, when people don't like what you're doing, you can point to your principles and say "Hey, we've always been this way" and you get credibility from having had the same policy or position all along. 2012/2/6 M.

Re: [Foundation-l] Facebook Group re pornography on Wikipedia

nd include disclaimers that we are not intended as a children's site and that adults should make careful use of their own judgement about letting their children read Wikipedia. It is not our responsibility. 2012/2/9 Andreas K. > On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:52 AM, M. Williamson wrote: > >

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations Sourcing

Ziko, you raise the subject of "illiterates"... I feel that it is blatant discrimination to assert that the only way illiterates can create sources worthy of citation on Wikipedia is either by becoming literate, or by being interviewed by a literate person. This to me indicates a value judgement, t

Re: [Foundation-l] Languages and numbers

Some of these actually already have Wikipedias: Meadow Mari Yakut (aka Sakha) Lak Balkar (aka Karachay-Balkar) Yiddish, Eastern (= "standard" Yiddish, "Western Yiddish" is the one we are missing but it has much fewer speakers; according to Ethnologue there are only 5,400 around the world) In addi

Re: [Foundation-l] largest free content website

Yes, and I'm sure Wikipedia also has lots of copyrighted and dubious content, as hard as we try... 2011/7/8 Peter Gervai > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 08:26, John Vandenberg wrote: > > 2. Million Books Project http://www.ulib.org/ > > LOTS of copyrighted and dubious content, by random checking. > >

Re: [Foundation-l] largest free content website

Well, I just think any repository that lets some non-free works slip through the cracks by accident, can't suddenly be disqualified unless we're ready to disqualify Wikipedia too. So what category do we fit into that they do not? 2011/7/8 David Gerard > On 8 July 2011 09:20,

Re: [Foundation-l] List of Wikimedia projects and languages

By hopefully having a Wikipedia in all 700 languages that will be around then. Language death makes me really sad, and there are lots of things that are being done about it, and more should be done, but I'm not sure it's the Foundation's job, just like it's not our job to save endangered species (

Re: [Foundation-l] List of Wikimedia projects and languages

To be honest, I don't think 10k is a fair threshold. Many languages with hundreds of thousands of speakers will likely go extinct by 2050, due to high levels of bilingualism and low levels of children learning the language. This language shift is particularly acute on the American continent, where

Re: [Foundation-l] List of Wikimedia projects and languages

x27;t give birth until mid-late 30s; in others, it is in the teenage years, so things like language death happen a bit more rapidly as the new generations come more quickly. 2011/7/11 Milos Rancic > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 22:42, M. Williamson wrote: > > To be honest, I don't t

Re: [Foundation-l] List of Wikimedia projects and languages

> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 00:34, M. Williamson wrote: > > No, Milos, my "reasoning" is not "of the industrial age". It is backed up > by > > first-hand experience and by research. People who live in cities are by > > nature a part of a larger urb

Re: [Foundation-l] List of Wikimedia projects and languages

ut complete ghettoization. Ever. Period. For a couple generations, perhaps, but when your great-grandmother was bilingual in the minority language and the LWC, it can be almost guaranteed, in an urban setting, that you are monolingual in the LWC. 2011/7/12 M. Williamson > Milos, it is a fantasy of ma

Re: [Foundation-l] Welcome to new wikis

Rather perhaps you mean: Argentinians got chapter and Arabic got Wikiversity? Since the Wikiversity site seems to be in Arabic, which would be a bit odd if it was for Argentines. 2011/7/12 Milos Rancic > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 12:26, Lodewijk > wrote: > > I assume you mean Argentinian chapter,

Re: [Foundation-l] List of Wikimedia projects and languages

2011/7/12 Milos Rancic > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:47, M. Williamson wrote: > > Milos, it is a fantasy of many that is not supported by research, that > just > > because people are rich or have technology, their language will magically > > not die. > > I wouldn&#

Re: [Foundation-l] List of Wikimedia projects and languages

2011/7/14 Milos Rancic > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 01:56, M. Williamson wrote: > > Present research actually indicates the decline of linguistic diversity > has > > accelerated in the last 10-15 years, possibly due to the exact factor you > > May you point to som

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations project: People are Knowledge

What is your intention here, Elizabeth, besides trolling? 2011/7/26 whothis > Looks like an excellent waste of effort. > > Maybe the problem of publishing non-publishable oral sources occurred to > someone on the team. Anyway the english wikipedia seems to be the > appropriate place for your ori

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations project: People are Knowledge

Nathan, I think that Raul Gutierrez, Maria Alameda and "Elizabeth" are all the same person, somebody trolling the list. While we occasionally get single-issue new posters starting topics, it's rare to see them pop up in the middle of a topic just to attack one user. Something fishy is definitely go

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations project: People are Knowledge

Well then, Ray, en.wp would not be able to use non-English sources since all translation is interpretation and would therefore be considered OR which is not allowed at Wikipedia. 2011/7/27 Ray Saintonge > On 07/27/11 12:42 PM, Wjhonson wrote: > > David how is an exact quote a summary or interpre

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations project: People are Knowledge

I will go do a "research project" on emesis in the nearest restroom. 2011/7/27 Ray Saintonge > On 07/27/11 2:34 PM, M. Williamson wrote: > > Nathan, I think that Raul Gutierrez, Maria Alameda and "Elizabeth" are > all > > the same person, somebody trolling the

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations project: People are Knowledge

ave legitimate discussions, it's cool as long as I end > my emails with a serious sentence??? > > Ryan Kaldari > > On 7/27/11 4:53 PM, M. Williamson wrote: > > Yes, Elizabeth is clearly not a troll, her suggestion: "I still think a > > research project in emesis

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations project: People are Knowledge

And what if readers don't understand Spanish? As a translator, I have to say I am strongly against the idea that a translation counts as original research. Translating quotes has been practiced in academia for a very long time, and just in the last month I must've read several papers with quotes in

[Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

To anyone who's interested... on a request to close a Wiki on meta, we were just debating the problems that exist with Incubator, when one of the bureaucrats from Incubator asked something along the lines of "wait, there's a problem with Incubator?" So I went on a little quest to prove how difficul

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

This is of course essentially what we did in the Good Old Days, but somebody (or somebodies?) decided we needed More Rules, so now we have them, and as is often the case with too many rules, they've constricted what was once a free-flowing process and limited almost all new wikis to a very small ge

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

This is an improvement in many ways, but how does it help the average user? How are people supposed to know that XYZ code points to XYZ language? Right now we don't have any high-traffic pages pointing to incubator; it seems less likely that say, en.wp main page will link to every single test wiki.

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

I have a feeling very, very, very few French speakers find the French Wikipedia through that route. Most people probably find a Wikipedia in their language at http://www.wikipedia.org/ if they don't already know the URL. I doubt many speakers will google "Central Atlas Tamazight Wikipedia" in Engli

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

Yes but again as I said, most people will be looking for their languages on http://www.wikipedia.org/ or in places where interwiki links are usually found. How many out of the 5 million speakers of Central Atlas Tamazight do you think are aware that the ISO code for their language is TZM? Probably

Re: [Foundation-l] Like button

Or, Rui, perhaps you have plenty of original thoughts and are a very intelligent person and you post all of your original thoughts, but it seems a bit stupid and like a waste of space to say "thank you for saying that" or "i agree with you" every time you agree with someone and have no disagreement

Re: [Foundation-l] Like button

Rui, I meant the "impersonal you", not the direct you. 2011/8/10 Rui Correia > M. Williamson > > Obviousy I post my thoughts where these make a contribution. It says so > below "leave a comment or leave it alone". > > Rui > > 2011/8/10 M. Williamso

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

ter a list of languages. Mark 2011/8/10 Samuel Klein > On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 9:13 PM, M. Williamson wrote: > > Yes but again as I said, most people will be looking for their languages > on > > http://www.wikipedia.org/ or in places where interwiki links are usually > > fo

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

"2. Do you have a suggestion as an alternative for the term "incubating wikis"? Is the more often used "test wiki" better?" "Test wikis" is much better. It has been used since before incubator even existed, it is easy to understand, and I don't see a downside. _

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

Gerard, the term "incubating wikis" is confusing for reasons I already explained. Users with little experience are very unlikely to know about http://test.wikipedia.org/ so I see little potential for actual confusion. We have been calling Wikis on incubator "test wikis" for ages (since BEFORE incub

Re: [Foundation-l] Tragedy: videos and slides from presentations Wikimanias (lately 2011 in Haifa)

A bit disappointed to see posts like this. Most of us don't have the luxury of attending international conferences every year, but that doesn't mean we're not interested to know what happened there. Videos should be uploaded and most popular presentations should be subtitled into the most popular l

Re: [Foundation-l] The systematic and codified bias against non-Western articles on Wikinews

Note that Google News, a popular news aggregator, often includes a link to the Wikipedia article about breaking news and recent events, but never links to Wikinews. Wikipedia is already largely accomplishing in many high-profile cases what Wikinews aims to do. Also note that Chile is considered by

Re: [Foundation-l] The systematic and codified bias against non-Western articles on Wikinews

Wow, you pat yourself on the back more times in that e-mail than I ever thought possible in a single message. So you think Wikinews is the greatest thing, and that us outsiders know not what we are talking about and don't have a right to an opinion since we're not full-time Wikinewsies? Great, that

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wiki-research-l] Summary of findings from WMF Summer of Research program now available

I would be interested to know what the most wanted pages would be if all links from templates were excluded. If I introduce a redlink into a template that's transcluded on 2000 pages, it immediately becomes a most wanted article. I'd also be very interested in seeing this data for other Wikipedias,

Re: [Foundation-l] A Wikimedia project has forked

I do believe it means exactly that. http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Special:ActiveUsers includes all users with at least 1 edit in the last 30 days; that seems like a really low threshold though. I took the liberty of collecting some data based on that page: - 23 users with at least 30 edits in the l

Re: [Foundation-l] A Wikimedia project has forked

uited to the Wiki process in the end), but I'm tired of the assumption that people *should* support and care about sister projects just because they're sister projects, without proving their usefulness or worthiness of our support. 2011/9/12 M. Williamson > I do believe it means exactl

Re: [Foundation-l] (IRC questions with tempodivalse) Re: A Wikimedia project has forked

Kim, before you mentioned this was just a personality problem, but it seems to go beyond that. It seems to be a structural problem augmented by personality problems (I can think of a couple people in particular, not naming names). The structural problems are clear to everybody but certain prolific

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

Are you kidding? Pictures of mummies, a cup with a depiction of two guys doing it that can only be noticed if you look really closely, and what is supposed to be a depiction of intercourse but actually looks more like a piece of stale bread? Wow. 2011/9/13 Fae > > Are there are pages on English

Re: [Foundation-l] Minor projects withering and dying? Really?

Wiktionary is useful; perhaps you're referring to my comments, which were not about Wiktionary at all. Wikiquote definitely does not belong as a sister project. Maybe it is a "shining beacon" in the cesspool of internet quote sites; well, there are lots of things the rest of the Internet does poorl

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011/9/13 John Vandenberg > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 3:40 AM, Fae wrote: > > On 13 September 2011 18:23, M. Williamson wrote: > >> Are you kidding? Pictures of mummies, a cup with a depiction of two guys > >> doing it that can only be noticed if you look re

Re: [Foundation-l] On Wikinews

Only the English Wikipedia, and while en.wp is our most successful project so far, there are other successful Wikipedias that were formed only through community efforts with no paid editors. 2011/9/14 Kim Bruning > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 07:17:49PM +0100, Thomas Morton wrote: > > The elephant

Re: [Foundation-l] Rename proposal of Kurdish wikipedia

It's not irrelevant because if approved, it could be added to list of pending name changes. As far as codes representing macrolanguages, ku: is clearly a different situation than ar.wp. Arabic is a group of languages with a single unifying "macro" standard, which speakers of all Arabic languages l

Re: [Foundation-l] Rename proposal of Kurdish wikipedia

ku.wp is not truly a macrolanguage wiki. 2011/9/16 Milos Rancic > 2011/9/16 M. Williamson : > > It's not irrelevant because if approved, it could be added to list of > > pending name changes. > > The problem with the request is that it's not in the scope of Langua

Re: [Foundation-l] 86% of german users disagree with the introduction of the personal image filter

Yes, and as was mentioned previously this should be a very easy query to run. People are wondering why the data isn't already available. 2011/9/16 phoebe ayers > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Tobias Oelgarte > wrote: > > 86% of the German contributers opposed the feature. Does the same > >

Re: [Foundation-l] Rename proposal of Kurdish wikipedia

Any proof of this? I don't seem to see anywhere that it says that White_Cat's nationality is Turkish. Also, that holds little relevance. I agree with him and I am certainly not Turkish. 2011/9/16 Nathan > I don't think White_Cat's nomination is purely without ulterior motive, > unfortunately. A

Re: [Foundation-l] Rename proposal of Kurdish wikipedia

Let me add to this that some of the same people compared my actions, in supporting a technical move to change the ISO code of a Wikipedia, to those of a group of Turkish soldiers who attempted to murder Kurdish women and children. This game of nationalism and accusations is nothing new on Wikipedia

Re: [Foundation-l] Rename proposal of Kurdish wikipedia

hat you've done here. 2011/9/16 Nathan > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 7:45 PM, M. Williamson wrote: > > > > Let me add to this that some of the same people compared my actions, in > > supporting a technical move to change the ISO code of a Wikipedia, to > those > &g

Re: [Foundation-l] Rename proposal of Kurdish wikipedia

en a separate Sorani Wikipedia. 2011/9/17 Nathan > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:49 PM, M. Williamson wrote: > > And if I were to ask the community to make it? I would be perfectly > willing > > to do the same thing. This should not be relevant in Wikimedia. If a > >

Re: [Foundation-l] Rename proposal of Kurdish wikipedia

Kurmanji, so there is no reason it should be located at anywhere except the code for Kurmanji, which is kmr. 2011/9/17 Milos Rancic > On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 18:35, M. Williamson wrote: > > If all Kurdish editors had been in favor of having a "Kurdish Wikipedia" > as > >

Re: [Foundation-l] 86% of german users disagree with the introduction of the personal image filter

A "dead human bodies" category that excludes mummies "because we're not idiots" is, by definition, not neutral. 2011/9/19 Stephen Bain > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:47 AM, Tobias Oelgarte > wrote: > > > > We discussed this already and came to the conclusion, that you would > > need hundreds of

Re: [Foundation-l] [Langcom-l] Ancient Greek reconstructed an analysis of a proposal for a new Wikipedia

Holy ancient thread revival, Batman! This seems like a good idea... but in the case of Wikisource, wouldn't that already be covered by multilingual Wikisource? 2011/9/20 とある白い猫 > I think we may want a "historic texts" wikisource/wikibooks particularly > for > texts in now extinct languages. So

Re: [Foundation-l] Meta main page

Translatewiki.net doesn't seem to be much more usable to people who don't speak English, coming at it from the front page. Imagine you don't speak English, how do you suppose you go from http://translatewiki.net/ to a page with instructions or content in your language? One needs at least rudimentar

Re: [Foundation-l] Meta main page

ck the browser > language and dependend on all this we serve what is likely a good match. > Thanks, > GerardM > > 2011/9/28 M. Williamson > > > Translatewiki.net doesn't seem to be much more usable to people who don't > > speak English, coming at i

Re: [Foundation-l] Meta main page

gt; > On 29 September 2011 05:23, Gerard Meijssen >wrote: > > > Hoi, > > Easy.. we recognise where someone is coming from ... check the browser > > language and dependend on all this we serve what is likely a good match. > > Thanks, > > GerardM > > &

Re: [Foundation-l] Meta main page

27;t speak a word of Dutch. There is no reason to not have a language selector like on Commons, or some kind of list or bar somewhere on the mainpage to let users switch. 2011/9/29 Béria Lima > M. Williamson, the only way to see the Main Page in other language is log > in, going to htt

Re: [Foundation-l] Meta main page

Yes, when I went to commons I was pleased to get a notice that said "Wikimedia Commons está disponible en español" at the top of the page. Doesn't obligate the user to change, and the language chooser bar offers the user a plethora of other choices in case the language guess was wrong. Would be nic

Re: [Foundation-l] Meta main page

once added a language > selector but it was removed at some point. I added it back now. > > 2011/9/29 M. Williamson : > > Yes, when I went to commons I was pleased to get a notice that said > > "Wikimedia Commons está disponible en español" at the top of the page. &g

Re: [Foundation-l] Possible solution for image filter

+1 2011/9/21 Béria Lima > +1 > _ > *Béria Lima* > > *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter > livre > acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a > fazer .* > > > On 21 September

Re: [Foundation-l] Blanking a Wikipedia, a very bad idea

Another important point here is that Wikipedia is an international project; there are speakers of Italian in Switzerland, Brazil, Argentina, Mexico, and in smaller numbers in lots of other countries who may not care so much what happens in Italian politics. If the UK proposed a new law to shut down

Re: [Foundation-l] Blanking a Wikipedia, a very bad idea

Editors aren't the only people who use Wikipedia. 2011/10/4 Jalo > > > > Is the Kiribati based community (or a part of it) of Wikipedians allowed > > to block en.wikipedia.org for x hours because a new Kiribatian (sp?) > > media law might come? > > > > Mathias > > > > You're right, 2-3% of it.wi

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF blog post on Italian Wikipedia

If you don't even think that is a comparable situation, then you clearly don't understand at all what some people think the image filter is all about. 2011/10/5 Lodewijk > If you even think that is a comparable situation, then you clearly don't > understand at all what this law is all about. > >

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF blog post on Italian Wikipedia

Jalo, it's all about perception: perceived effects and perceived consequences. People's reactions are based on their perceptions and judgements, since we're not robots. So if a group of people perceives it to be equally bad, they may take an equal action, regardless of whether or not you agree with

Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove

So... Wikilove is enabled on all Wikis only by consensus... except en.wp, where it was pushed out with no consensus and as far as I can tell, no research yet proving it had any results? 2011/10/29 Gerard Meijssen > Hoi, > Given that the English Wikipedia has a problem, its page views is going >

Re: [Foundation-l] Occupy events: Are you OK?

I have not participated much in the Occupy protest in my city, but I can report that Pancho Ramos Stierle, who I spent time in jail with here in Phoenix because of our protests over the discriminatory immigration law that went into effect last year, was arrested in Oakland as part of the Occupy Oak

Re: [Foundation-l] Finnish MP FAIL!!!

Which article was it? 2011/11/19 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen > Not sure if this is appropriate for this list, but just for lulz. A > finnish member of > parliament just got caught for his speech being a word for word piece of > snippets from a Finnish Wikipedia article. No intervening binding lines,

Re: [Foundation-l] Regarding Berkman/Sciences Po study

How about, "What we are doing now: In response to community outcry, we have decided not to repost such banners, rather than talking down to the community and telling them they have misunderstood people's intentions". I'm tired of the Foundation making unpopular decisions and then talking down to

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Zachary, contrary to characterizations made by others on this thread, that is exactly what happened. The Wiki was active, there were users creating articles, but unfortunately political considerations took top priority in a community vote that was held, which essentially pitted Russians against Rom

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

2010/10/4 Samuel Klein : > Is there any opposition to naming such a temporary project ro-cyrl? > In your proposal, the converter would eventually be available (as a > user pref) on ro.wp? I agree that it should be called ro-cyrl as mo is no longer considered a valid ISO code, but thinking of that

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

That is a questionable assumption. Mo.wp's sitenotice explains that if you'd prefer to view Moldovan content in Latin, the official alphabet of the Republic of Moldova, you may find it at ro.wp. I am willing to bet that most of the people who have signed these petitions will be upset if any Cyrill

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

2010/10/4 Nathan : > alternate script of Romanian (i.e. mo.wp vs. ro-cyrl.wp). As for > linguistic rights... Not really relevant, is it? But I guess the How is it not relevant? To me, that is at the very heart of this case: the right of a language community to exist and for us to provide reasonabl

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

e in the province of Romania BASARABIA speak mainly Romanian,not Arabic,Chinese,Lebanese the russian was inposed on them by force ." So then, much like the original vote for closing mo.wp, this turns out to be another proxy war between Romanians and Russians. -m. 2010/10/4 Nathan : > On Mo

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Marcus, thank you for the test. I don't think anybody doubts or doubted that this is possible - of course a few more rules need to be added, for example ea is almost always converted to cyrillic Ya, with special exceptions, and several other minor mistakes, but that isn't anything to do with the ac

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

2010/10/5 Gerard Meijssen : > Hoi, > Technically it is easier to transliterate from Cyrillic. So when > transliteration works in a round robin fashion, it does not really matter in > what script people edit. It will only be stored in one script. The choice > for a script can be based on a user sett

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

uck : >  An'n 05.10.2010 21:03, hett M. Williamson schreven: >> Marcus, thank you for the test. I don't think anybody doubts or >> doubted that this is possible - of course a few more rules need to be >> added, for example ea is almost always converted to cyrillic Ya,

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Marcus Buck wrote: > Read . > They want to switch to Latin since long but the government does > everything to stop them. > Marcus, that is a tiny minority of Moldovans in Transnistria, and that article has many POV problems as well (I

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Nathan, perhaps there is a communication error here. GerardM and I are arguing for the same thing, which is a transliteration engine, but ONLY so long as it allows people to read AND contribute, rather than just being read-only as proposed by Marcus. My other contention is that if this is not possi

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

simply due to the expressed dislike or anger of a particular group of people. -m. 2010/10/5 Nathan : > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:26 PM, M. Williamson wrote: >> Nathan, perhaps there is a communication error here. GerardM and I are >> arguing for the same thing, which is a transl

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:56 PM, M. Williamson wrote: >> I don't think it's right to delete content just because someone >> doesn't like it without creating any sort of alternative. In addition, >> I don't see how ro.wp community support would be needed if a separ

Re: [Foundation-l] Liu Xiaobo

Peter, I've never heard of Wikipedia sentencing anybody to prison. I can't support such a comparison between blocking and real-life prison. Have you ever been jailed yourself? It is not fun. I would much rather be blocked from all Wikimedia projects forever than spend a week in prison, especially i

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

2010/10/10 Zugravu Gheorghe : > > > On 06.10.2010 02:22, M. Williamson wrote: >> Marcus Buck wrote: >>> Read <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldovan_schools_in_Transnistria>. >>> They want to switch to Latin since long but the government does >>> ever

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Gutza, the problem with such a solution is inequality of numbers. Every time this has been discussed previously, such forums have been dominated by Romanians from Romania with very little input from Moldovans and 0 input from Transnistrians. This is unfair and steps should be taken to remedy any sy

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

2010/10/12 Gutza : >  Mark, > > You are a veteran in Wikipedia matters -- you have been involved in this > project for several years under nickname "Node ue". You have fought in > the Moldovan language article on en.wp for years, and you have > single-handedly created and defended the entire mo.wik

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

t? If you do have an opinion, what is it? > > Thank you, > Gutza > > On 13-Oct-10 03:36, M. Williamson wrote: >> 2010/10/12 Gutza : >>>  Mark, >>> >>> You are a veteran in Wikipedia matters -- you have been involved in this >>> project for severa

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Gutza, your #2 statement does not follow, Cyrillic has been and is currently used, including in schools, for the Eastern Romance/Daco-Romanian/Romanian/Moldovan/whatever variety spoken in all or some parts of Moldova (and/or, depending on your chosen political reality, the Pridnestrovian Moldavian

Re: [Foundation-l] Attack pages at Encyc. Dramatica

Whatever happened to freedom of speech? Encyclopedia Dramatica is a parody site. Plenty of people have tried to shut them down before, it's unlikely to ever happen (and in my opinion, should never happen). If they have an offensive article about you, trying to get rid of it will probably make it wo

Re: [Foundation-l] Evil Book

The issue is that this book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6131076278/ is a direct copy of the English Wikipedia article. There are many more books like this made by the same company. 2010/11/1 KIZU Naoko : > Well while Ryan and Fred look having a valid concern, on this particular issu

Re: [Foundation-l] naming of things in kosovo

Yes, sure, but a lot of smaller villages and towns in many countries do not have well-established English names. Besides, what constitutes the "English name" is a matter of debate - according to law, the official name of Kolkata in English is "Kolkata"... but then, couldn't Germany pass a law sayin

Re: [Foundation-l] Pieter Kuiper

No, br.wikipedia.org is the Breton Wikipedia. I think Virgilio is referring to pt.wp as the Brazilian Wikipedia because it is or he perceives it to be dominated by Brazilians. -m. 2010/12/6 Pedro Sanchez : > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Virgilio A. P. Machado > wrote: >> Adam, >> >> What a t

Re: [Foundation-l] Pieter Kuiper

Also from your talk page: A partir de 1 de janeiro de 2009, as normas do Acordo Ortográfico de 1990 passaram a ser usadas de forma preferencial na Wikipédia de língua portuguesa, passando a ser redigidas em conformidade todas as "páginas oficiais" da Wikipédia (menus, políticas, recomendações, res

Re: [Foundation-l] Brazilian Portuguese Wikipedia

> Before signing off, and before I forget, let me > ask another trivial question. It has been a long, > long time since you have opened a grammar of any > language, hasn't it? That's an easy guess, Watch the personal attacks. I read grammars every day, it's part of my work. Just last week I had a

Re: [Foundation-l] Request for assistance

Virgilio: Many thanks for the information. I have, after reviewing the evidence you presented, casted my vote in support of Peter Symonds' adminship on Meta. Muito obrigado pela informação. Depois de avaliar a evidência apresentada, votei a favor da proposta da concessão de poderes administrativo

Re: [Foundation-l] Request for assistance

proposta d*e* concessão de poderes administrativos a Peter Symonds *no*Meta." > > *Béria Lima (Beh) > * > > > 2011/1/5 M. Williamson > >> Virgilio: >> >> Many thanks for the information. I have, after reviewing the evidence >> you presented,

Re: [Foundation-l] January 15 retro?

Wikipedia was started on that date, wasn't it? True, other Wikipedias didn't exist yet, but I don't think that makes it any less significant. If you speak a non-English language as your native tongue and wish therefore to not make any fuss about the date, feel free, but I'm certain it won't just be

Re: [Foundation-l] An agenda for the meeting of the language committee

How about this: Over the past several years, new projects have been approved and created improving our coverage of world languages. However, the vast majority of this growth since the formation of Langcom has been in European languages - a quick sampling reveals new Wikipedias in Rusyn (Eastern Eu

Re: [Foundation-l] An agenda for the meeting of the language committee

To me, this is still a problem. If the committee never made any decisions and instead relied 100% on the opinions of others, then perhaps the composition wouldn't matter. However, think about this: if you gather a committee to make decisions about agriculture and recruit only from European countrie

Re: [Foundation-l] An agenda for the meeting of the language committee

presented, just put them in > touch with Gerard and I'm confident they will be able to at least > incorporate the knowledge. > > Best regards, > > Lodewijk > > 2011/2/24 M. Williamson > >> To me, this is still a problem. If the committee never made any >&

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF 2015 strategic plan and multilingualism

2011/3/5 Amir E. Aharoni : > will enable more people to read them. This, however, also poses the > danger of perpetuating current linguistic conflicts. For example, > translating the WMF blog into Chinese will allow a lot of people who > know Chinese, but not English, read it, but it will yet again

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF 2015 strategic plan and multilingualism

> priority list that they think we should use. :-)  The metrics that > Mark suggests are a great idea.  Number of speakers, number of > monolingual (or native) speakers, and size of the editing community > would be great things to consider. > This may seem like nitpicking but I think it's an import

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF 2015 strategic plan and multilingualism

Gerard, that seems like quite a bit of money, I'd be curious to know what exactly that would be spent on, in detail. 2011/3/5 Gerard Meijssen : > Hoi, > The Wikimedia Foundation is a five hundred pound gorilla in the field of > building language resources in the languages that have a smaller footp

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