Gerard, the term "incubating wikis" is confusing for reasons I already explained. Users with little experience are very unlikely to know about http://test.wikipedia.org/ so I see little potential for actual confusion. We have been calling Wikis on incubator "test wikis" for ages (since BEFORE incubator existed), I see no reason to ditch that straightforward, useful term just to replace it with the confusing "incubating Wikis".
2011/8/13 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> > Hoi, > There is nothing wrong with the term incubating; it indicates forcefully > that we want full projects in those languages. A test wiki is even more > ambiguous because we have things like test.wikis for new software. > > Having a landing page with texts in languages that are likely to be > understood is a good thing. I will support that. When these pages are > supported in a similar way as is done for new translators on > translatewiki.net, I would be really happy; the point is that you make > things easy and, the time spend by our community is our most valuable > asset. > > Having projects go to the incubator is a good thing when there is an > incubating project. When there are technical issues like we have them for > languages like sign languages we can have specific information. We can have > specific information when projects have been denied in the past as well. > Particularly when they have been denied by the board; these exceptions are > the exceptions to the policy and deserve better information. > > Let one thing be clear; having a project in the incubator for a longer time > is not a desired state. Making improvements to the visibility only serves > to > speed up the process towards a full project. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 12 August 2011 02:08, Robin Pepermans <robinp.1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > @Mark: although I do not like your tone in your original post, you > > provide some good feedback (and started a thread with more feedback), > > which is more than welcome. > > 2. Do you have a suggestion as an alternative for the term "incubating > > wikis"? Is the more often used "test wiki" better? > > 5. I improved the Incubator:Wikis list so it is more intuitive, I > > hope. As for the order, it is alphabetically. > > > > @Fajro "The link from the test-wiki should direct to the proper recent > > changes." > > The links on Wx/xyz pages do, or are you referring to links somewhere > else? > > > > @Thomas: Info pages like > > http://robinpepermans.be/mw-dev/index.php?title=Wn/shi will be coming > > soon, and the redirects will hopefully be implemented this year or > > early next year. As far as I can see, this will allow interwiki links > > from any project to an incubator test wiki, which is a very good thing > > (will not work for languages unknown to Wikimedia, with current setup) > > > > @Nathan: A kind of "language searcher" to more easily find test wikis, > > is on my to-do list. > > > > And I added one more thing to the to-do list: improving > > http://www.wikipedia.org/ and similar portals. Thanks for that idea. > > > > In general, we are moving from the "request a new wiki (and oh, we > > need to make some pages at Incubator)" way to "start your own wiki at > > Incubator, and if it is big, we can request to move to an own > > subdomain". > > This way, we can put starting wikis back in the hands of volunteers > > without needing to create separate (inactive) wikis for each of them. > > > > I should communicate better about my work. Anyway, I plan to propose a > > presentation at Wikimania next year about these things. > > > > Regards, > > SPQRobin > > > > _______________________________________________ > > foundation-l mailing list > > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
