et, for example.
> Video of athletes in action [1]. Etc.
>
Every article on a non extinct animal species is a somewhat viable and
useful goal (and it keeps us one step ahead of web of life)
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search engines for at least 4 years. The reason for this is unknown
and I haven't even heard any viable theories.
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> started in such locations? If not, perhaps we need to tie into another
> organization that is already working on this...
There is an oral history project but I'm not sure how viable that is.
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avigation is heavily JS dependent right
> now. So we might want to switch back to a hybrid format. The job pages
> are also still actively being re-designed, and the setup might change
> significantly in coming weeks.
>
Pointless waffle. You forget what the WMF i
description on the petition most of the CBC stuff is
stuff from third parties that can at a pinch be purchases on the open
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On 10 March 2012 14:47, David Gerard wrote:
> On 10 March 2012 14:18, geni wrote:
>
>> People creating articles by clicking on redlinks are not as a general
>> rule a significant issue.
>
>
> That appears to be a numerical claim. Do we have numbers?
>
Not that
es by clicking on redlinks are not as a general
rule a significant issue.
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about the polish rail geeks but the british ones have
been nice enough to spend the last few decades churning out book after
book (along with journals and magazines) that qualify as reliable
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turned up at auction as recently as 2008.
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ishes?
No but if they put it on permanent display in a public place the photo
would probably be totally fine under UK freedom of panorama law.
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r. Partly so wikipedia will view it as a reliable
source and partly because in some way wikinews acts as a terrible
warning.
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;s activities unless it switches its charity type.
> (Googling around, I was reading
> http://www.asaecenter.org/Resources/whitepaperdetail.cfm?ItemNumber=12202
> and http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-tege/eotopicp97.pdf )
>
What is highly questionable is if it a remotely worthwhile use of
money. I
appear to involve a bunch of
local political and ethnic issues that it is unlikely that anyone at
the foundation really understands. So trying to get involved would
first involve understanding what is actually going on which we don't
really have the resources to do.
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It made it to the front page of the BBC news website.
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ibrary has just under 14 million books and 150 million documents
total. The library of congress is much the same. So as I said slightly
different league,
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out it.
Understood. Please understand that we may chose to view things
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s a distraction.
>And
> they are also used for displaying bilingual messages, which is very
> useful for areas in which you can't be sure whether people prefer
> English or the local language, like India.
Except both versions I was getting were in
On 31 December 2011 09:00, Keegan Peterzell wrote:
> Login or wait a day?
My understanding is that on any given day we have rather a lot of
users. I'm not sure it is entirely reasonable to expect them all to
log in and that would in any case rather negate the point.
We appear to have actual blinking ads. Unfortunate. Still I suppose
the occasion should be marked.
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y be enough to get you data
is isn't enough to be particularly sure that a reasonable number of
wikipedians will actually see it.
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could wikipedia allow someone to use the wikipedia logo in such a manner?
> mike
Well we do have quite a collection of public domain images where you
can do precisely that. Realistically I think we have to accept that
most films are not going to include extended scenes covering copyright
and free li
d hardly any re-users were actually doing that.
Actually it is extremely unclear why we switched. There are in fact a
number of re-users that managed to deal with the attribution issue in
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m is that the intent is to trash the editor's moral rights.
In fact that term would be a particular problem in the UK where it is
just about possible that you might be able to give up your moral
rights via click through so the inclusion of such a term would rather
spo
ersities should have some vague idea what
is important only 13 UCAS listed UK universities offer V610 (ie actual
theology rather than various comparative religion) courses.
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d. Wikipedia didn't feature
in those leaked Syrian server logs other than some attempts to view it
through google translate.
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Notability
Which is a lie. They just changed the words a bit. Deletionist vs
inclusionists turns into lumper vs splitter.
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subjects. Under those
conditions the web is by far the most likely viable source of
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On 30 October 2011 14:24, Hubert wrote:
> One problem is that the word "Love" is used quite differently in the
> German language.
So use a different word. The thing is pretty customizable.
> Even in Great Britain.
Depends where
s?"
Zee logical attack line would be to make one of the wikilove options
(probably the first one) a simple "a message for you" rather than "a
kitten for you" or "an ironclad battleship for you" or whatever the
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ample it is
possible to argue that the image is effectively PD-ND which would be
difficult for commons to deal with.
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d trust a magic 8 ball. The point is
that commons tries to act before people complain which means that
copyright nerds are a reasonable and far more cost effective solution
than lawyers.
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ipedians would be a focus
> but I am interested in anyone who is involved in the movement because of
> passionately held convictions or 'ideology'.
You know it would in most cases have been considered an act of good
faith to mention your long standing antipathy to wikipedia. But
ight we might
recognize on say a photo of some flowers you tend to get whole bundles
of IP rights. In some ways mickey mouse isn't too bad since Disney
have kept such a tight grip on him.
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nt from what we are dealing with
which is more focused on books and other mass market material rather
than say old planning application maps and minutes of the union of
postal workers 1937.
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last decade or so one of the
loopholes in payways. With the removal of such archives the paywalls
become more controlling.
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Some time ago in some cases. Problem is the kind of tactics needed to
do that tend to be socially damaging and we don't need another pending
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again this requires no foundation involvement to do. It can
already be done through adblock plus with no modifications.
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> to serve its most popular *current* project, it exists to support the
> global dissemination of all sorts of knowledge, and collaboration to
> create that knowledge.
The reality is however that it's always en.pedia that is on the
receiving end of whatever the foundation wants to do
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> open at 22:00 UTC, Monday, August 29.
>
> Please pass the word to anyone you think might be interested.
>
> Sarah
Can anyone provide any info on what the journal carries? are we
looking at pure theory or are their case studies?
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> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 12:53 PM, geni wrote:
>> On 12 August 2011 20:24, George Herbert wrote:
>>> We still have wide gaps in knowledge coverage. Not in the most common
>>> areas, but in many specialized areas
On 12 August 2011 20:24, George Herbert wrote:
> We still have wide gaps in knowledge coverage. Not in the most common
> areas, but in many specialized areas, where they're not heavily
> geek-populated.
>
Yes but those don't have much to do with normal applications of enc
gt; editing community, big enough to take on the task. Citizendium failed
> to achieve this, for example, and ended up deleting most of the
> articles they'd forked from Wikipedia.
That assumes it's actually worth editing wikipedia on any scale at
this point. For mo
rom
> their perspective, so recentralising fundraising.
However it was the WMF that created that particular model of
decentralisation in the first place.
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On 27 July 2011 09:01, Craig Franklin wrote:
> God forbid that someone should have an opinion contrary to the fashion of
> the day (in this case, oral citations)!
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_video has been around for years.
On 8 July 2011 16:47, Samuel Klein wrote:
> Right. NARA has 5 billion pages of PD content online, as I learned
> this morning. Is it 'a website'?
>
Do you have a cite for that? Could probably be added to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Size_com
owever they have a few free-gratis etexts
> sprinkled through their collection.
>
> 2. Million Books Project http://www.ulib.org/
In terms of raw data the answer is no. wikimedia commons is larger.
Other than that you are probably mostly looking at US goverment stuff.
dia article on that subject. For non wikipedia wikis to inline
link to wikipedia for more general background is pretty common though.
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much.
I don't know much about the situation in the humanities though.
>You cannot do science in a system with these effects.
In fairness you demonstrably can. Of course it's an open question how
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then the US did.
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ing his lifetime. So most will
be in the public domain in the the US by 2043 and of course his early
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On 23 June 2011 16:09, David Gerard wrote:
> At this point you are just being contrary for the sake of a row.
Citation needed. That in any case is not a valid counterpoint.
If you think the foundation's involvement will have no wider impact
feel free to make that case.
x27; usually means 'the culture of the
> most affluent'. All culture, whether scientific, encyclopedic, high
> art, low art, pop culture, kitsch, criminal, idiosyncratic, or even
> literally hunter-gather tribal culture-- all cultures are impo
ich probably sounds great to a limited number of people within the
US but is going to cause problems outside.
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undersand that the foundation wants
to be able to ignore what they regard as their more legitimate
copyright claims will be really helpful.
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on does generally makes the attempt to
appear like it's aware of non US areas. Truth is of course that
congress can't impact my public domain one way or another.
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majority human beings stay well away from major legal
actuation unless there is serious money involved.
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uot;five factors":
>
> http://www.rcfp.org/djlg/index.php?action=show_item&cat=LIB&tid=15
>
> Fred
Thing is from our POV the question is does the law protect these vandals.
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> history that means BAD THINGS will happen, I feel details will sway more
> than allusions.
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nce clear.
> The idea that you can stop manipulation of the system by sporadic (and
> wildly inefficient) witch-hunts is rather insane. If the door is unlocked,
> you don't imprison every person who tries to open it, you lock it (and then
> imprison tho
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tion. There is past clase law
suggesting that really wont work. More practically they are likely
betting the CTB thing wont last beyond Monday on the basis that at
this point there are hermits in central wales who know who CTB is.
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other list participants, I imagine.
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> MZMcBride
You realise that [[Daniel Brandt]] passes that test yes?
On the other hand recently elected African leaders will tend not to.
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mate down the pub might but multiple people
is kinda dicey. I assume more than one person has access to the
User:Oversight feed.
Exactly what is and isn't considered a private communication is a
complex area though.
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> Please mail User:Oversight with any such instance you are aware of.
That's not actually legal.
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afigura clearly was of interest (incidentally it appears that
one of their PR people is trying to edit the Trafigura article). The
Fred Goodwin one probably is. The rest that I know of probably not.
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e actualy got however is an argument over what is considered
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alse accusations has reached the
point that if we did care about BLP issues the responcible thing to do
would be to publish most of the 53 on the main page.
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Except we know that wikipedia gets the overwhelming majority of the traffic.
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quot; story played well. The foundation was
still trying to play that card until fairly recently.
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k, and motivate them to help us
do it
Thats it. Everything else is build it and they will come. It not much
to bet quite a budget increase on. And yet nowhere in the document do
we encounter any statements about what happens if the money isn't
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llion project.
I suppose we could blow a million or so hiring people to talk to the
likes of the peace corps and age concern to see if we could get them
to distribute Wikipedia in various forms.
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reat set of appeals to emotions and attempts to falsely
frame the debate. Just one tiny problem. We are wikipedians. Not only
do we tend not to see the world in terms of stories (See wikipedia's
house style sometime) but a big part of NPOV is shattering stories.
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position turns off those who that position
is meant to be working with then you have a problem. Obvious exception
would be the likes of prison officers but I would suggest that that is
not a model we wish to explore.
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> 2011/2/21 geni :
>
>> Can't images are again CC-BY-SA and not compatible
>
> What if the Creative Commons guru issues a statement saying that TVL
> is Creative Commons 4.0 ?
Why on earth should they do that?
CC has actual la
On 21 February 2011 19:39, Teofilo wrote:
> 2011/2/21 geni :
> (...)
>>> What is more complicated is what happens in a movie theatre. In my
>>> opinion, the theatre owner should tell the viewers where the movie is
>>> available for download on the internet.
>&g
> Video License including this kind of clauses is needed.
Trying to create opt outs for single formats isn't going to work. I
can provide plently of closely related ones where it also breaks.
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> Creative Commons allows to merely perform the work without actually share it.
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even worse problems if you give me multiple
licenses to play with so you are far better off working on suggestions
to improve the various creative commons licenses rather than trying to
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On 20 February 2011 15:49, Marco Chiesa wrote:
> On 2/20/11, geni wrote:
>> On 20 February 2011 10:57, Marco Chiesa wrote:
>>> Please consider that this is foundation-l and for many people CSD G3
>>> is pretty meaningless
>>> Cruccone
>>
>>
at G3 is could make this tricky.
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>and for such diverse topics?
Drop a prompt to add sources into the article creation process and
make adding sources easy.
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pages are going to miss stuff. Sure this will sometimes result
in you staring blearily at a deletion log wondering why CSD#T2 has
come back to life (answer it means something different now) but that
is pretty unavoidable.
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A bit of work with ffmpeg would produce something far better.
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ghtly.
I suspect that all we have to do is wait. Someone has effectively
worked out how to spam Amazon. What one person can do so can others.
Eventually the level of spam will rise to the point where Amazon will
have to act or lose customers due to their service being de
ght highlight areas we could perhaps move into but there isn't much
detail and nothing listed at:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/2011/01/delivering-quality-first.shtml
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rate at which oral information
appears to break down (remember the [[Great Hedge of India]] seems to
have slipped most people's minds) it's questionable how much gurus
(even if we ignore the more blatant frauds) would actually know about
the history of India pre East India Company that isn
s been around for 1800 years. The odds of orally transmitted
information remaining accurate over that kind of time period are
limited.
In any case the who Guru thing has taken a bit of a hammering lately
from the likes of Sanal Edamaruku and Basava Premanan
On 15 January 2011 16:40, David Gerard wrote:
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>> On 15 January 2011 15:26, Amir E. Aharoni
>> wrote:
>
>>> Now, fight.
>
>> First review the discussion that has already taken place at WT:RFA
>
>
> Al
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> Now, fight.
First review the discussion that has already taken place at WT:RFA
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