t: Re: will ever adobe give the flashplayer to the opensource comunity
I believe some multi-threading does exist now:
"Multi-threaded video decoding (Windows, Mac OS, and Linux) -- The video
decoding pipeline is now fully multi-threaded. This feature should improve the
overall performa
gt; Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 10:47 AM
> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: will ever adobe give the flashplayer to the opensource comunity
>
> Hi Gordon,
> From my ignorance in this field... I'm cuorious about what use cases will
> this concurrency model
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From: Joan Llenas Masó [mailto:joan.llenas.m...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 10:47 AM
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: will ever adobe give the flashplayer to the opensource comunity
Hi Gordon,
From my ignorance in this field... I'm cuorious about what
http://tv.adobe.com/watch/max-2011-develop/concurrency-in-flash-runtimes/
here is the link
On 07/02/2012 03:58, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
Jarosław,
You should check out the MAX session on Adobe TV to see what they are
thinking. Right now, there would NOT be any shared memory space between
t
Jarosław,
You should check out the MAX session on Adobe TV to see what they are
thinking. Right now, there would NOT be any shared memory space between
the two (similar to AIR Native Extensions), however, you can send copies of
variables between a child worker and a parent (in their terminology,
il.com]
> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:46 PM
> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: will ever adobe give the flashplayer to the opensource
> comunity
>
> it will materialize for sure (the question is when) if they want to
> "invest in gaming", curr
Yes, concurrency is coming ASAP.
Gordon Smith, Adobe
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From: Jarosław Szczepankiewicz [mailto:jszczepankiew...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:46 PM
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: will ever adobe give the flashplayer to the opensource
it will materialize for sure (the question is when) if they want to
"invest in gaming", currently even low end machines have at least two
physical cores. But I am afraid that the api given to the user will be
not comparable to what we call worker i.e. in java. I speculate but in
order to not compli
Multithreading (actually, it is a psudo-thread using child workers) was
talked about publicly at MAX a few months ago. They have not committed to
anything, but they did state that they have it on their current roadmap.
To us, that means that we may see it in a future release of the FP
(hopefully
Agreed, I do not believe we need Flash Player to be opened source to do
great stuff with Apache Flex, as I think you mentioned before Alex the cost
for Flex is now 0 since the community will be developing so even with the
Flash Player as it is we should be able to keep pushing Flex further than
Ado
Sure Adobe efforts will benefit Flex enterprise targets, but community has
to wait and see for such Adobe releases just as we are waiting to see FP
supporting multi-threading etc.
2012/2/5 Jarosław Szczepankiewicz
> Adobe efforts in the area of gaming and video will benefit also flex
> targets:
Adobe efforts in the area of gaming and video will benefit also flex
targets: perfomance improvements, memory consumption, support for
workers all of this will benefit also enterprise software.
2012/2/5 Nicholas Kwiatkowski :
> Even then, I doubt we will ever see the Flash Player Open-Sourced. Ad
Even then, I doubt we will ever see the Flash Player Open-Sourced. Adobe
depends on a LOT of 3rd party licensed code in the FP, all of which would
not be available should the technology become open. An open-source FP
would be the same FP we see today.
We have our limitations, and we know what th
On 2/4/12 5:24 PM, "Stephane Beladaci" wrote:
> We will only see the Flash Player being open sourced if Google buy
> Adobe, otherwise Adobe will rather kill it than letting competition
> benefit from it.
OK, that's enough speculation for now. Let's move on. I will probably ask
my management
We will only see the Flash Player being open sourced if Google buy
Adobe, otherwise Adobe will rather kill it than letting competition
benefit from it.
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:05 AM, JP Bader wrote:
> Jeffry's correct. Adobe is in the business to make money. They make
> great tools because th
Jeffry's correct. Adobe is in the business to make money. They make
great tools because those tools sell and make money. The Flashplayer
is one of the most ubiquitous platforms for distributing content
created via the tools that Adobe makes and sells, so they have no
incentive to give the FP awa
On 2/3/2012 9:54 AM, FRANKLIN GARZON wrote:
Well, Adobe put alot of efforts into html5, however if they open flash will be
a risk if the comunity will grown flash vm, but if Adobe see that Flex grown
more quickly in the hands from the community, I think they will also put
efforts to extend fla
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> Subject: Re: will ever adobe give the flashplayer to the opensource comunity
> From: piergiorgio.ni...@gmail.com
> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
>
> I don't thing adobe will ever release flash open, I hope it will and I hope
> the runtime will be integrate
I don't thing adobe will ever release flash open, I hope it will and I hope
the runtime will be integrated as a part of any browser.
IMHO, the most we can expect is this community to have more energy than
others in asking adobe new features, bugfixes and change some internal vm
behaviors, but this
Hi Filippo,
Original Message
> From: "filippo dipisa"
>
> Many thanks.
> Do you know if anyone started to think about a new runtime for
actionscript
> or flex not dependant to Adobe or FP and opensource?
I don't think that we should go down the route of creating another VM ju
I agree with you, but the JVM is fully open source.
I didn't know the existance of the tamarin project, I will have a look to
them.
Thanks a lot.
2012/2/3 Jarosław Szczepankiewicz
> the same is about all java ecosystem and .net ecosystem. I can not see
> the difference. There is no serious alter
the same is about all java ecosystem and .net ecosystem. I can not see
the difference. There is no serious alternative to Oracle Java and his
alternative OpenJDK (I know there is IBM but who uses is apart from
taking it as bonus to other software from IBM). So what's the noise
about that. I am sure
> Flash player is closed source and will always be so yes, Flex will always
> depend on FP till some solution is found to output to another format
> besides SWF.
To clarify this further, in practical terms we'll stay dependent on the
Flash Player which will likely not be open sourced for a varie
Many thanks.
Do you know if anyone started to think about a new runtime for actionscript
or flex not dependant to Adobe or FP and opensource?
2012/2/3 João Fernandes
> On 3 February 2012 11:39, filippo dipisa wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I'm new to the list and wondering if you have ever discuss how to
On 3 February 2012 11:39, filippo dipisa wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm new to the list and wondering if you have ever discuss how to manage
> the fact that Flex is opensource but the Flashplayer isn't ( for my
> knowledge )
> All the others apache project are full opensource and with full control, so
> how
Hi,
I'm new to the list and wondering if you have ever discuss how to manage
the fact that Flex is opensource but the Flashplayer isn't ( for my
knowledge )
All the others apache project are full opensource and with full control, so
how this is going to work?
What's happen if we think that we need
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