In most Gambling and Casino companies I know, Maven (or dependency
management tools compatible with Maven repos) is a must. I explicitly say
"compatible" as many build tools use to work with existing maven repos, as
it's the kind of "standard": Gradle, SBT, Ant+Ivy,...
On 16 October 2012 20:25, Al
: AW: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
I don't think the issue is that Adobe changes licenses for a particular
version after you accept it, it is that if you want to upgrade to a newer
version, you may need to accept a new license.
The simpler I can make this, the better chance it has of happ
l, but the benefit for developers would be at a max.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Von: Alex Harui [aha...@adobe.com]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Oktober 2012 21:28
> An: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
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>
. Could that be done
instead of having to enable/disable accounts constantly?
-Mark
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...@adobe.com]
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On 10/16/12 12:11 PM, "christofer.d...@c-ware.de"
wrote:
> Maven doesn't provide the means to stall a dependency resolution and prompt
> t
rui
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> Subject: Re: AW: AW: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
>
>
>
>
>
> On 10/16/12 11:30 AM, "Carlos Rovira" wrote:
>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> for me is a barrier. I think Adob
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Subject: Re: AW: AW: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
On 10/16/12 11:30 AM, "Carlos Rovira" wrote:
Hi Alex,
for me is a barrier. I think Adobe should have it's own maven
repository with flash, air and other needed stuff to ease development
of people using their softwar
>
> Flash gaming, yes. HTML, no.
>
> Any app that uses pre-built artifacts (.jars, .swcs etc.) would be
> benefited by using Maven. Game developers definitely use the same
> software techniques and tools like any other app developer.
Can I also add that deploying to a Maven repository doesn't
x-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: AW: AW: AW: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
On 10/16/12 12:11 PM, "christofer.d...@c-ware.de"
wrote:
Maven doesn't provide the means to stall a dependency resolution and
prompt
the user for accepting a license. The only thing you could do is to
protect
acce
21:29
An: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
On 10/16/12 12:11 PM, "christofer.d...@c-ware.de"
wrote:
> Maven doesn't provide the means to stall a dependency resolution and
> prompt the user for accepting a license. The on
On 10/16/12 12:11 PM, "christofer.d...@c-ware.de"
wrote:
> Maven doesn't provide the means to stall a dependency resolution and prompt
> the user for accepting a license. The only thing you could do is to protect
> access to the repository.
It looks like the antrun plugin would allow me to use
On 10/16/12 12:05 PM, "Carlos Rovira" wrote:
> Sure!
>
> companies building games could benefit of a maven driven development,
My question is around "could". Maven isn't the only build tool out there.
Have the game companies that Adobe cares about chosen something other than
Maven?
--
Alex
ex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Oktober 2012 19:42
An: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: AW: AW: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
On 10/16/12 9:58 AM, "Greg Reddin" wrote:
>
> With most projects I've been involved in I've had to manuall
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Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Oktober 2012 20:53
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Betreff: Re: AW: AW: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Alex Harui wrote:
>
>
>
> On 10/16
de
http://www.c-ware.de
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Von: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Oktober 2012 20:38
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Is there some other corporate repository or two
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Alex Harui wrote:
> Thanks Greg. Do you happen to know if those non-permissive licenses allow
> for re-distribution within a company? Are those packages you manually
> download full-fledged Maven artifacts or does someone else Maven-ize them?
I'll confess that
Sure!
companies building games could benefit of a maven driven development,
the same happen years ago with VCSs...all companies managing source
code use it regarding if they are focused in IT sector, gamming
sector, or whatever... it's only a matter that companies like Adobe
make it easy the use o
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Alex Harui wrote:
> Is there some other corporate repository or two I can use as a model
> (especially one that has proprietary licensing)?
Does anyone know if the java.net repo contains all open-source
libraries or if some of those libs are still proprietary?
Ei
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Alex Harui wrote:
>
>
>
> On 10/16/12 11:30 AM, "Carlos Rovira"
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Alex,
> >
> > for me is a barrier. I think Adobe should have it's own maven
> > repository with flash, air and other needed stuff to ease development
> > of people using their soft
Is there some other corporate repository or two I can use as a model
(especially one that has proprietary licensing)?
On 10/16/12 11:33 AM, "Om" wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> for me is a barrier. I think
On 10/16/12 11:30 AM, "Carlos Rovira" wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> for me is a barrier. I think Adobe should have it's own maven
> repository with flash, air and other needed stuff to ease development
> of people using their software. I think it's something convenient for
> Adobe as a company that s
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Carlos Rovira <
carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> for me is a barrier. I think Adobe should have it's own maven
> repository with flash, air and other needed stuff to ease development
> of people using their software. I think it's something conv
Hi Alex,
for me is a barrier. I think Adobe should have it's own maven
repository with flash, air and other needed stuff to ease development
of people using their software. I think it's something convenient for
Adobe as a company that sells technology to software integrators, game
developers and o
.c-ware.de
UStId-Nr. DE195700962
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Von: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Oktober 2012 18:18
An: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: AW: AW: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
On 10/15/12 11:57 PM, "christofer.d...@c-ware.de"
On 10/16/12 9:58 AM, "Greg Reddin" wrote:
>
> With most projects I've been involved in I've had to manually download
> non-permissive stuff and host it in a company repo like Artifactory. I
> think it's a bit of an unfortunate fact of our existence that Flex,
> for a while at least, will be d
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Alex Harui wrote:
> I would find it hard to believe that every other Maven artifact in the world
> has a permissive license. Do you know of any artifacts that have
> proprietary licenses? How do they handle their licensing? If the general
> rule is that there
On 10/15/12 11:57 PM, "christofer.d...@c-ware.de"
wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> But I think adding not adding potentially very usefull information, just
> because noone uses it will certainly not help the tag being used some day ;-)
> .. I know that Artifactory Pro for example allows to filter artifa
: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: AW: AW: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
As far as I know Velo had some sort of Agreement (At least he claimed that
he had one when we were chatting about this a few years ago). Eventually it
was just a situation where it wasn't allowed but was tollerate
;-)
Chris
Von: Frédéric THOMAS [webdoubl...@hotmail.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Oktober 2012 12:00
An: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Betreff: RE: AW: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
Hi,
That's a really a good idea Chris (even if I got a doubt as well of the
Adobe wi
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Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:51 AM
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: AW: AW: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
As far as I understood the thing, Apache can't ship a binary version because
it has some deps to stuff which you have to accept a li
: carlos.rov...@gmail.com [carlos.rov...@gmail.com] im Auftrag von Carlos
Rovira [carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Oktober 2012 11:26
An: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: AW: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
Ok Chris,
so the problem is only related to older Adobe sdks. For new
Ok Chris,
so the problem is only related to older Adobe sdks. For newer (Apache)
this workflow would be ideal, isn't it?
2012/10/16 christofer.d...@c-ware.de :
> Ideally I agree, but then you have the problem, that maven would download
> artifacts automatically without you or your companies
> n
e.org
Betreff: Re: AW: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
Hi Alex,
integrate maven in the apache flex sdk release process would be great.
It would directly deploy flex sdk artifacts for all people using flex
with maven and those people would have direct access to latest sdks to
use and test in thei
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g the generator.
Chris
Von: Alex Harui [aha...@adobe.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Oktober 2012 01:25
An: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: AW: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
Finally got time to read a little about this. Since there is currently no
off
icipants can live with.
Chris
Von: Alex Harui [aha...@adobe.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Oktober 2012 01:25
An: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: AW: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
Finally got time to read a little about this. Since there is curr
t-
> Von: christofer.d...@c-ware.de [mailto:christofer.d...@c-ware.de]
> Gesendet: Samstag, 29. September 2012 13:18
> An: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: AW: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
>
> Hi Alex,
>
> well unfortunately it doesn't deal with licenses, s
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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. September 2012 00:11
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Betreff: Re: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
One more question (since we've been beating up the installer folks about
this):
Hi Alex,
I understand that if your project download some required artifact from
some official repo, that artifact should be there based in some
license. If Adobe put some artifact in an official maven repo is
because agree with whatever license it could have, so people could
point to that artifact
One more question (since we've been beating up the installer folks about
this): how does Maven deal with licenses? Our Ant script stops and requires
that you hit a key to accept a license. Can Maven do the same? Otherwise
it seems like you could end up downloading some dependency with a license
That would be awesome! :)
El miércoles, 26 de septiembre de 2012, christofer.d...@c-ware.de escribió:
> Well in general it would be enough if Adobe simply published the
> airglobal, playerglobal and osmf swcs along with their language resources
> to a public repo ... only these 3 artifacts would
7 AM
> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: AW: AW: AW: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
>
> Hi Alex,
>
> If you want I can simply send you the link to the zip with all Flex versions
> in their
> Mavenized form. But I would do that off the list. After all I only want to
> provide
like.
Chris
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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. September 2012 19:54
An: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: AW: AW: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
Hi Chris,
This sounds more possible. I have some more questions:
1) What goes
t; Von: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. September 2012 19:21
> An: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: AW: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
>
>
>
>
> On 9/26/12 10:11 AM, "christofer.d...@c-ware.de"
> wrote:
>
>>
19:19
An: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
On Wednesday, September 26, 2012, christofer.d...@c-ware.de wrote:
> It was always intended to be an intermediate tool allowing the
> transition to mavenized FDKs.
>
> Ideally Apache would start publish
. September 2012 19:21
An: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: AW: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
On 9/26/12 10:11 AM, "christofer.d...@c-ware.de"
wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> Well in general it would be enough if Adobe simply published the
> airglobal, playerglobal and o
repo"?
> I could even send you the prepared artifacts (Files with the correct naming
> convention as well as the maven poms).
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. September 2012 18
On Wednesday, September 26, 2012, christofer.d...@c-ware.de wrote:
> It was always intended to be an intermediate tool allowing the transition
> to mavenized FDKs.
>
> Ideally Apache would start publishing FDKs directly and from then on the
> Tool would be obsolete.
>
> But as long as this is not
a Maven form, it helps migrate the old FDKs into a form
people can use.
Chris
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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. September 2012 18:25
An: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: AW: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
On 9/25/12
-dev@incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
On 9/26/12 12:18 AM, "Frédéric THOMAS" wrote:
>
>
>> If we
>> wanted to create maven artifacts for the official maven repo, we
>> certainly can't bundle in Adobe stuff, so woul
On 9/25/12 11:59 PM, "christofer.d...@c-ware.de"
wrote:
> Hi Aley,
>
> Well I think the only references to Adobe stuff in the Apache Flex FDKs are
> the references to Playerglobal, Airglobal, Osmf and Textlayout (Am I missing
> any). Fortunately most of them are already out there and we could
On 9/26/12 12:18 AM, "Frédéric THOMAS" wrote:
>
>
>> If we
>> wanted to create maven artifacts for the official maven repo, we certainly
>> can't bundle in Adobe stuff, so wouldn't that require that Adobe either
>> publishes to the official maven repo or at minimum puts up its own pom.xmls
Sure! if the tool only "prepare" the sdk to be used localy by other
tool I don't see any reason to have any legal problems. Or at least, I
don't see nobody wasting the time to make that an issue...
Great work! :)
2012/9/26 christofer.d...@c-ware.de :
I don't think there should be any legal issu
Hi Chris,
We were writting in the same time :) I think you greatly answered the 2nd point.
Frédéric THOMAS
> From: christofer.d...@c-ware.de
> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:59:16 +0200
> Subject: AW: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
>
> Hi Aley,
>I'm a bit confused by the "generator" and what is quoted below
This may indeed seem at first sight antagonist, on one side, a tool that allows
the generation of an mavenized SDK from sources and on the other side, sources
already mavenized.
The generator is an excelent tool that will allow e
r 2012 18:00
An: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
Not too far in the future, the Falcon compiler will (can be) a separate
independent build script. The rest of the framework will not have any Java
code anymore. That might make it easier, so don't spend too
lugging but doesn't look so easy either, may be a little bit more, I'll
> keep in touch.
>
> Frédéric THOMAS.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: carlos.rov...@gmail.com [mailto:carlos.rov...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
> Carlos Rovira
> Sent: Monday, September 24,
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Von: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. September 2012 08:15
An: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: AW: AW: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
Hi Chris,
Who is the "you" that runs the generator: the customer who wants to build and
app with an FDK or
rov...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
Carlos Rovira
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 12:24 PM
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
Hi Chris,
this sounds very good. The point 5 should be the solution to the problem we
had with themes. I would like to have access t
ad the permission to publish the Flex SDKs in a Maven repo.
> Perhaps Apache will be able to get a similar agreement and would be allowed to
> publish the artifacts.
>
> Chris
>
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
> G
f: Re: AW: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
Hi,
the problem is with adobe sdks only, but apache flex sdks would not have this
problem isn't it?
for older sdks up to 4.5.1 the artifacts are available from maven official
repo, but 4.6 is the only one not deployed. The next is already apache flex
Apache will be able to get a similar agreement and would be allowed to publish
the artifacts.
Chris
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Von: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
Gesendet: Montag, 24. September 2012 18:40
An: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: AW: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
Oh Hi Frederic,
Well this is good news :-)
Thanks for that :-)
Chris
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Gesendet: Montag, 24. September 2012 17:24
An: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Betreff: RE: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
"I am pla
>> contact me and I'll give them the download link (I just don't want to get
>> into
>> Trouble with Adobe).
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: carlos.rov...@gmail.com [mailto:carlos.rov...@gmail.c
rsprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: carlos.rov...@gmail.com [mailto:carlos.rov...@gmail.com] Im Auftrag von
> Carlos Rovira
> Gesendet: Montag, 24. September 2012 13:32
> An: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> you
.d...@c-ware.de [mailto:christofer.d...@c-ware.de]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 12:46 PM
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: AW: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
Hi Carlos,
I was hoping that Apache would start publishing their FDKs in a Mavenized
form. With the Tool it should be almost
ember 2012 13:32
An: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
Hi Chris,
you're completly right. In order to get this milestone we need to discuss
project structure to get parent/child, and so on...
I think a new [Discuss] thread should be open ASAP to se
l.com [mailto:carlos.rov...@gmail.com] Im Auftrag von
> Carlos Rovira
> Gesendet: Montag, 24. September 2012 12:24
> An: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> this sounds very good. The point 5 should be the solution to the probl
ubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Flex Maven FDK Generator RC1
Hi Chris,
this sounds very good. The point 5 should be the solution to the problem we had
with themes. I would like to have access to the link in order to test it.
btw, if this works and we finaly have a working process to have maveni
Hi Chris,
this sounds very good. The point 5 should be the solution to the problem we
had with themes. I would like to have access to the link in order to test
it.
btw, if this works and we finaly have a working process to have mavenized
flex artifacts...could this be integrated in the build proc
Hi,
I just wanted to inform you, that I have somewhat finished my Flex FDK
Generator. With this tool you should be able to generate Mavenized FDKs from
any existing Flex FDK (Apache or Adobe) and Air SDK.
In order to use the new FDKs with Flexmojos 6.x I still have to change some
stuff in Flex
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