Re: Any news about FalconJS donation?

2012-10-05 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 10/5/2012 7:20 PM, Charles Monteiro wrote: Not getting this air is very much cross platform , running on desktops , android , ios, it seems win surface rtf It depends on your delivery mechanism. If you need "Cross platform" browser based apps that have to work on an iPad or iPhone; then

Re: Any news about FalconJS donation? (was: Financing the Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Design View AIR App))

2012-10-05 Thread Charles Monteiro
Not getting this air is very much cross platform , running on desktops , android , ios, it seems win surface rtf On Oct 5, 2012 12:21 PM, "FORMER 03 | Robert Brendler" < robert.brend...@former03.de> wrote: > I'd also like to drop some comment on this ... > > I don't know how it is with you guys,

Re: Is FXG a good long term choice for Apache Flex?

2012-10-05 Thread jude
I think it's a good long term investment. There is a lot already invested in it. FXG is more like SVG 4.0. Also, there has been work done on the compiler that produces optimized FXG. FXG is Flex' friend. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Yvon Sauvageau wrote: > Don't convert your FXG to SVG for re

ASC 2.0 and Falcon

2012-10-05 Thread Dasa Paddock
ASC 2.0 is getting lots of bug fixes and enhancements. See the release notes at: http://labsdownload.adobe.com/pub/labs/flashplatformruntimes/air3-4/air3-4_p3_sdk_asc2_releasenotes.pdf Is it correct that ASC 2.0 is a fork of Falcon? Is it possible that Adobe will be committing these same fixes to

Re: Is FXG a good long term choice for Apache Flex?

2012-10-05 Thread Yvon Sauvageau
Don't convert your FXG to SVG for real though. The last time I tried SVG in FB 4.6, I got compile warnings that basically told me that SVG was a thing of the past and that I should use FXG. -Original message- From: Jeffry Houser To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: "sébastien Paturel"

New wiki entry clarifying relationship between Apache Flex and Adobe? (was: Financing the Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Design View AIR App))

2012-10-05 Thread sébastien Paturel
"I would expect / hope that adobe is a partner of apache flex" To easily answer to this recurrent question or reaction, Someone could write a new wiki entry to explain once and for all in what and how Adobe is contributing to flex and clarifying in what and how Adobe is publicly engaged (get the

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

2012-10-05 Thread sébastien Paturel
Ok thanks ALex. So its not as simple as it seemed at first place about proprietary code. It make sens now. I agree that starting from scratch is the way to go further then. Le 05/10/2012 18:24, Alex Harui a écrit : On 10/5/12 6:47 AM, "sébastien Paturel" wrote: Is it definitive that Adobe

Re: Is FXG a good long term choice for Apache Flex?

2012-10-05 Thread sébastien Paturel
But it seems that theres very little differences between the two. IMO Adobe will drop FXG sooner or later. Why should they keep with it if they don't keep Flex in their main strategy? I think we will have to get back to an SVG based solution (with SVG extension ?) Le 05/10/2012 17:47, Alex Har

Re: Any news about FalconJS donation? (was: Financing the Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Design View AIR App))

2012-10-05 Thread sébastien Paturel
Great news, thanks Alex :) Le 05/10/2012 16:27, Alex Harui a écrit : FalconJS is not under development. A prototype was built several months ago, but no serious work has been done on it since. I should be able to start on its legal review next week. On 10/5/12 7:06 AM, "filippo dipisa" wrot

Re: AW: AW: Financing the Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Design View AIR App)

2012-10-05 Thread Alex Harui
On 10/5/12 7:00 AM, "Charles Monteiro" wrote: > I would expect / hope that adobe is a partner of apache flex Adobe is investing in Apache Flex, otherwise I and others wouldn't be paid to be involved. -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

2012-10-05 Thread Alex Harui
On 10/5/12 6:47 AM, "sébastien Paturel" wrote: > Is it definitive that Adobe will not donate the DV code to Apache? Never say Never. But at this point, trying to change minds at Adobe is not a priority for me, because I think the code isn't the right design. I would rather start over. > I t

Re: Any news about FalconJS donation? (was: Financing the Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Design View AIR App))

2012-10-05 Thread FORMER 03 | Robert Brendler
I'd also like to drop some comment on this ... I don't know how it is with you guys, but most of the projects I am getting nowadays are required to be cross platform ... or better said ... "can you make it run on my iPad? do I really need another app for it, I already got like 3 million of the

Re: Is FXG a good long term choice for Apache Flex? (was: Financing the Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Design View AIR App))

2012-10-05 Thread Alex Harui
On 10/5/12 6:44 AM, "sébastien Paturel" wrote: > After Alex mentioned FXG, one important question comes to light: > should Apache Flex keep use FXG as skining tool? For now, yes. > as FXG is tightly linked to Adobe and its tools, can we count on Adobe > to continue to maintain the use of it? e

Re: [POLL] tag

2012-10-05 Thread FORMER 03 | Robert Brendler
+0 I've been using Flex for a while now and must admint I never really used DV, because whenever I opened it, some of my custom components weren't displayed right or manipulating an object by mouse destroyed some of my percentage widths somewhere in the code, also dragging new components into

Re: Is FXG a good long term choice for Apache Flex?

2012-10-05 Thread Omar Gonzalez
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Jeffry Houser wrote: > On 10/5/2012 9:44 AM, sébastien Paturel wrote: > >> >> by the way, why Adobe chose to use new FXG, instead of SVG? (i bet the >> answer as already been given a few times, sorry for asking again) >> > > There has been some talk about that in

Re: Is FXG a good long term choice for Apache Flex?

2012-10-05 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 10/5/2012 9:44 AM, sébastien Paturel wrote: by the way, why Adobe chose to use new FXG, instead of SVG? (i bet the answer as already been given a few times, sorry for asking again) There has been some talk about that in the past. The general gist--as I understand it--was that they decid

Re: Any news about FalconJS donation? (was: Financing the Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Design View AIR App))

2012-10-05 Thread Alex Harui
FalconJS is not under development. A prototype was built several months ago, but no serious work has been done on it since. I should be able to start on its legal review next week. On 10/5/12 7:06 AM, "filippo dipisa" wrote: > FOr what I understand falco js is still under development and ther

Re: flex.org is infected according to google

2012-10-05 Thread Dave Fisher
If someone registers as a Google Webmaster, adds the correct google marker html file to the site and then requests it then google will rescan within a day. Regards, Dave On Oct 3, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > My sources say it was fixed last week and is due to be re-checked by google >

Re: Any news about FalconJS donation? (was: Financing the Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Design View AIR App))

2012-10-05 Thread filippo dipisa
FOr what I understand falco js is still under development and there is just one resource on it so don't hope on it. Please correct me if I am wrong. Here there is a good solution if you want to use as to create js apps http://www.jangaroo.net/home/ On 5 October 2012 14:53, sébastien Paturel w

Re: AW: AW: Financing the Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Design View AIR App)

2012-10-05 Thread Charles Monteiro
I would expect / hope that adobe is a partner of apache flex On Oct 5, 2012 9:52 AM, "sébastien Paturel" wrote: > No war between HTML5 and AIR here. > You already can run on AIR. > The fact that Flex don't run on HTML5 at all (even with lightweight > version) is a big drawback in the framework wa

Any news about FalconJS donation? (was: Financing the Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Design View AIR App))

2012-10-05 Thread sébastien Paturel
Following the HTML5 targetting discussion is there any news about the FalconJS donation, as we now have Falcon donated, it shoudl be next? Le 05/10/2012 15:46, Charles Monteiro a écrit : I'm wondering if most in this group are more interested about targeting html5 than air because it seems to

Re: AW: AW: Financing the Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Design View AIR App)

2012-10-05 Thread sébastien Paturel
No war between HTML5 and AIR here. You already can run on AIR. The fact that Flex don't run on HTML5 at all (even with lightweight version) is a big drawback in the framework war. And AIR is not safe for long term future for Apache Flex because of Adobe dependency. And i don't see why is would

Re: Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Apache Flex GUI Designer tools)

2012-10-05 Thread sébastien Paturel
Is it definitive that Adobe will not donate the DV code to Apache? I thought there were no legal issues to do it, as it was a full air app? (not like Catalyst) Maybe we could start to try to obtain it before starting something else from scratch. At least it worse to get a deep look at how it was

Re: AW: AW: Financing the Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Design View AIR App)

2012-10-05 Thread Charles Monteiro
I'm wondering if most in this group are more interested about targeting html5 than air because it seems to me it would be hard to do both well. I want to run on AIR. On Oct 5, 2012 9:38 AM, "sébastien Paturel" wrote: > I agree with others that you should abandone the idea that Adobe could get >

Is FXG a good long term choice for Apache Flex? (was: Financing the Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Design View AIR App))

2012-10-05 Thread sébastien Paturel
After Alex mentioned FXG, one important question comes to light: should Apache Flex keep use FXG as skining tool? as FXG is tightly linked to Adobe and its tools, can we count on Adobe to continue to maintain the use of it? especially in Creative suite tools? by the way, why Adobe chose to use

Re: AW: AW: Financing the Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Design View AIR App)

2012-10-05 Thread sébastien Paturel
I agree with others that you should abandone the idea that Adobe could get Catalyst back from the dead. They have been pretty clear about it, and the open sourcing is not an option because of code dependencies. Your only chance to see catalyst come back from Adobe, is to make Apache Flex te be

Re: [VOTE] "The more designer tools exist for HTML5, the more attractive HTML5 becomes"

2012-10-05 Thread Sebastian Mohr
@Omar ... You are right! A poll about an interaction design tool for Apache Flex might be more exciting for us. Hopefully you'll find time to take part in the other poll. Thx! Sincerely Yours, Sebastian Mohr Apache Flex Developer (PPMC), Interaction Designer & Musician http://www.linkedin.co