I agree with others that you should abandone the idea that Adobe could get Catalyst back from the dead. They have been pretty clear about it, and the open sourcing is not an option because of code dependencies.

Your only chance to see catalyst come back from Adobe, is to make Apache Flex te best framework for HTML5 runtime!


Le 04/10/2012 00:48, Sebastian Mohr a écrit :
@christofer dutz ... thanks for sharing your thoughts. +1 from my side!
Flash Catalyst CS5.5 is a charm for interaction designers like me.


Sincerely Yours,

Sebastian Mohr
Apache Flex Developer (PPMC),
Interaction Designer & Musician
http://www.linkedin.com/in/masuland




On Oct 3, 2012, at 7:21 PM, christofer.d...@c-ware.de wrote:

Well isn't it usually that way around?

I create some general UI scetches using some tools like blamiq mockups and deal with 
negoitating the functionallity with my customers. As soon as the component works as 
desired I go "pimp my app" and give it to a designer to have it pimped.

Using Catalyst this was really easy (As soon as you had a desiger at hand that 
was used to it and it's concepts). I was even able to let the designer skin a 
running application deployed by me somewhere on the web, so I didn't have give 
away the code of the application itself or setup the environment at the 
designers office. This workflow was the major breakthrough for me and was one 
of the major things that made me shift allmost entirely to the Flex road.

It's a real pitty to have it dropped and wasted :-(


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Von: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 3. Oktober 2012 18:18
An: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: AW: Financing the Design View AIR App (Was: Re: Design View AIR 
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On 10/3/12 7:38 AM, "christofer.d...@c-ware.de" <christofer.d...@c-ware.de>
wrote:

Oh ... let me thow in a little more weight for the Catalyst ;-)

I invested quite some time in setting up a project structure that
allowed me to concentrate on developing (Using an ugly but functional
developer Skin) and having professional Designers use Catalyst to Skin the 
application.
Unfortunately it seemed that the designers available on the market
were all even less "finished" than the Catalyst project, but as soon
as the designers got the hang of it, the results were pretty
sattisfying and I had what I was allways dreaming about: Being able to
concentrate on the functionality and have a designer do all the stuff
that sells the application (cool buttons, even greater effects and
animated transitions, ...) :-)

I would be really happy if Adobe didn't entirely drop this tool, and
if they did, If they would somehow open-source it.

It is essentially "dropped".  See [1].   There are no plans to opensource
it.  It too had a lot of "baggage" that made it difficult to implement.  For 
example, it really wasn't extensible as to what components it could handle.

The principle behind it (that you can take designer art and break it down into 
components) is compelling, but I question whether it remains valid in a world 
of dynamic UI.

It is also interesting to note that you used it in completely different way 
than it was intended.  It was for a design-first-then-develop workflow and you 
did it the other way (which is what I do when I have a choice as well).

[1] http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/whitepapers/roadmap.html
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui



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