Re: [Logo] Sebastian Mohr

I would +1 this logo. This logo clearly means "Flex is Apachised" i.e Apache Flex. It depicts the purpose of Apache behind Flex and it will be a differentiation from Adobe Flex. Taking into account of other Apache projects this logo will add another feather into Apache Kitty. +1 from my side. Disc

Re: ActionScript and Apache Flex

On 1/11/12 10:07 PM, "Web DoubleFx" wrote: > We do not get something for nothing, I am willing to sacrifice a bit of the > Falcon compile time gain to get such features, that's a big YES even. > Before the flexsummit, we did a online meeting for french flex developpers > about what we wanted f

RE: ActionScript and Apache Flex

> If it meant having proper AS3 code annotations, a proper meta data API and> > runtime performance increases for using said meta data API, then yes, I> > would trade off some of the Falcon speed increase for features such as a> > preprocessing phase.>> -omar +1 > On 1/11/12 12:57 PM, "Matthew

Re: [Logo] Sebastian Mohr

Ok, one more try ... I have added another Apache Flex logo which should be free of any infringements (I hope): http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/ApacheFlexLogoProposal What do you think? -- Sebastian On Jan 12, 2012, at 1:55 AM, Stephane Beladaci wrote: > which is a good thing I believ

Re: [LOGO] Willy Ci

thanks for all the input. I update the the original url http://flexcode.org/af_logo_preview.png * Thanks! Willy Ci* * * *e: will...@gmail.com * *c: 617-606-3437 * -- 6 X 9 = 42 meaning of life

Re: [Logo] Sebastian Mohr

which is a good thing I believe, recycling the existing logo would also create confusion, it would be saying "it is still Adobe Flex, we just Apached it" when in fact we need to send the message that this is not Adobe at all anymore. On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > Adobe is n

Re: [Logo] Sebastian Mohr

I am not a lawyer, but I would remove it as soon as possible. On 1/11/12 4:37 PM, "Sebastian Mohr" wrote: > Thx Alex ... should I be concerned to leave the infringed > logo there for a while? This might be interesting for those > guys who would like to follow this up (24 h). > > > -- Sebastia

Re: ActionScript and Apache Flex

On Wednesday, January 11, 2012, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > On 1/11/12 2:51 PM, "Omar Gonzalez" wrote: > >> >> If the compile time improvement in Falcon is as good as we're hoping and >> hearing from people like Deepa then it sounds like Falcon should have the >> bandwidth for more features such as

Re: [Logo] Sebastian Mohr

Thx Alex ... should I be concerned to leave the infringed logo there for a while? This might be interesting for those guys who would like to follow this up (24 h). -- Sebastian On Jan 12, 2012, at 12:55 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > On 1/11/12 3:47 PM, "Sebastian Mohr" wrote: > >> @Mike

Re: ActionScript and Apache Flex

> > Would you be willing to sacrifice some of that for a > pre-processing phase? > I would, assuming this could be turned on and off through additional compiler flags - Peter

Re: [Logo] Sebastian Mohr

Ok thx ... was just a try. But least you've got my message clear :) On Jan 12, 2012, at 1:07 AM, Stephane Beladaci wrote: > +1 for a clean cut distinctive definition of what Flex is, namely an > Apache project free of Adobe and open to new corporate venture / > partnership / investment. I always

Re: [LOGO] Willy Ci

I think this is much improved over the previous entry. On 1/11/2012 5:41 PM, Willy Ci wrote: thanks for the input, here is the updated version. http://flexcode.org/af_logo_preview_2.png * * * * * * * Thanks! * * Willy Ci* * * *e: will...@gmail.com * *c: 617-606-3437

Re: [Logo] Sebastian Mohr

+1 for a clean cut distinctive definition of what Flex is, namely an Apache project free of Adobe and open to new corporate venture / partnership / investment. I always said and still believe Flex will need corporate backup and sponsors to succeeded and I also understand / appreciate the idea of "

Re: [Logo] Sebastian Mohr

Quoting Sebastian Mohr : @Mike ... thank you for your quick response! Sure it looks very familiar ... but this is on purpose ... maybe just changing the colors could make it different and will remove these trademark/copyright issues ... but I have to stop here, because, I am not a designer ;)

Re: [Logo] Sebastian Mohr

On 1/11/12 3:47 PM, "Sebastian Mohr" wrote: > @Mike ... thank you for your quick response! > > Sure it looks very familiar ... but this is on purpose ... maybe > just changing the colors could make it different and will remove > these trademark/copyright issues ... but I have to stop here, >

Re: [Logo] Sebastian Mohr

@Mike ... thank you for your quick response! Sure it looks very familiar ... but this is on purpose ... maybe just changing the colors could make it different and will remove these trademark/copyright issues ... but I have to stop here, because, I am not a designer ;) More important was the te

Re: ActionScript and Apache Flex

On 1/11/12 2:51 PM, "Omar Gonzalez" wrote: > > If the compile time improvement in Falcon is as good as we're hoping and > hearing from people like Deepa then it sounds like Falcon should have the > bandwidth for more features such as preprocessing meta data, or am I > expecting too much from

Re: IRC Channel link on website?

On 1/11/12 2:13 PM, "Doug McCune" wrote: > Ah, ok. I thought the momentum around having the group practice doing a > release the Apache way very quickly would involve getting basically a > latest version of Adobe Flex repackaged, able to be pulled from the Apache > source, etc. That would allo

Re: [Logo] Sebastian Mohr

+1 On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > What do others think? -- Jonathan Campos

Re: [Logo] Sebastian Mohr

Quoting Sebastian Mohr : For me, the new Flex logo should send a promising sign to all those companies who have lost money, and, to all Flex developers who got fired during the last couple of weeks. "Stability over Philosophy" should be the credo of this new logo, and, the message of the new Apa

[Logo] Sebastian Mohr

For me, the new Flex logo should send a promising sign to all those companies who have lost money, and, to all Flex developers who got fired during the last couple of weeks. "Stability over Philosophy" should be the credo of this new logo, and, the message of the new Apache Flex logo should be

Re: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications

On Wednesday, January 11, 2012, Sebastian Mohr wrote: > @Roland > > hmm ... maybe you are right ;) But this is not my concern > now. I am talking about building large-scale Flex apps and > how to build them the best way. > > > -- Sebastian > > I get what you're saying and I totally feel you, but

Re: Raising barriers

> But I don't want to spend any more time discussing it right now. We need to > get a couple of regular release in ActionScript as we know it out the door. > > -- > Alex Harui > Flex SDK Team > Adobe Systems, Inc. > http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui > > +1 - let's take that first step...

Re: ActionScript and Apache Flex

>> preprossessing meta data sounds great, especially for DI etc > Just remember that preprocessing slows down compile times. Are we willing > to make that trade-off? > > -- > Alex Harui > Flex SDK Team > Adobe Systems, Inc. > http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui > > If the compile time improvement in Fa

Re: [LOGO] Willy Ci

Quoting Willy Ci : thanks for the input, here is the updated version. http://flexcode.org/af_logo_preview_2.png * Thanks! Willy Ci* Willy, Keep your updated graphic at the original url [1] You can list out alternative urls when updating like http://flexcode.org/af_logo_preview_1.png ht

Re: [LOGO] Willy Ci

thanks for the input, here is the updated version. http://flexcode.org/af_logo_preview_2.png * Thanks! Willy Ci* * * *e: will...@gmail.com * *c: 617-606-3437 * -- 6 X 9 = 42 meaning of life

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

Hi Dough, I want to send formal logo proposal mail with an updated and compliant png, zip, and so on. Right now I'm in a dead line and need to make room so I can work on that proposal. I think I have time since the logo contest ends 16th, so I'm sure I will end doing it in the week end. Thanks fo

Re: IRC Channel link on website?

Ah, ok. I thought the momentum around having the group practice doing a release the Apache way very quickly would involve getting basically a latest version of Adobe Flex repackaged, able to be pulled from the Apache source, etc. That would allow the group to get up to speed on how to roll out a re

Re: IRC Channel link on website?

+1, I strongly believe the word Adobe should be nowhere to be found, the company made a choice and from a communication standpoint I believe the name should always be Apache Flex, that will help making clear that this is a new product in the hand of the community, which will hopefully help make up

RE: FLEX Logo Sketch

Carlos, I don't see your logo proposal on the contest page under submissions. Are you intending to submit your variations? Should the 2 you sent be considered as submissions, or are you re-working your proposal? I, personally, still like your initial logo proposal! - Doug > -Original Mess

Re: IRC Channel link on website?

> Isn't the first release going to be the same as the latest Adobe Flex > release? Why wouldn't we want to support those users? That wasn't my understanding but could be wrong - just because its in SVN doesn't mean its a release. My guess was there will likely be some relatively minor bug fixes

Re: IRC Channel link on website?

> > I think the reason is we don't have an Apache Flex release yet, meaning > there are no users of it that warrants a mailing list Isn't the first release going to be the same as the latest Adobe Flex release? Why wouldn't we want to support those users? (Apologies if I've missed some prior disc

Re: [LOGO] Nuno Amorim

I like it, but I'm not really a fan of the fl ligature. The f extension doesn't seem natural, it is just a bit forced. -- Garth Braithwaite Sent with Sparrow (http://www.sparrowmailapp.com) On Wednesday, January 11, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Abhilash Krishnan wrote: > Hi, > > I like this logo. It l

Re: ActionScript and Apache Flex

Maybe not with mxmlc, but falcon has lots of grunt. On 11 January 2012 21:42, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > On 1/11/12 12:57 PM, "Matthew Poole" wrote: > > > preprossessing meta data sounds great, especially for DI etc > Just remember that preprocessing slows down compile times. Are we willing > t

Re: IRC Channel link on website?

> Any reason why we don't request this list now? If not, Bertrand, with your > help I'm willing to request it because regardless of other channels of > communication, I agree with setting up a flex-user mailing list. > I think the reason is we don't have an Apache Flex release yet, meaning there

RE: IRC Channel link on website?

> From: Bertrand Delacretaz [mailto:bdelacre...@apache.org] > > Note that we can get a flex-user list just by asking, we just need to have > volunteers from the PPMC to moderate it and create a JIRA issue for our > infra team. > > -Bertrand Any reason why we don't request this list now? If not, B

Re: ActionScript and Apache Flex

On 1/11/12 12:57 PM, "Matthew Poole" wrote: > preprossessing meta data sounds great, especially for DI etc Just remember that preprocessing slows down compile times. Are we willing to make that trade-off? -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui

Re: IRC Channel link on website?

Is there any reason that we can't use a twitter hash tag and a control that updates the feed based on that hash tag? -- Rick Winscot On Wednesday, January 11, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > On 1/11/12 11:48 AM, "Michel Boudreau" (mailto:michelboudr...@gmail.com)> wrote: > > >

Re: ActionScript and Apache Flex

preprossessing meta data sounds great, especially for DI etc Parametric polymorophism would be pretty cool too, it would allow for much more generic abstractions... On 11 January 2012 19:00, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > On 1/11/12 2:38 AM, "Dirk Eismann" wrote: > > > > > I think I saw some JIRA i

Re: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications

I think what would be MUCH more productive is a PR effort to show off really large, well-done Flex apps in enterprises. Developing really large apps in Flex is much easier than doing the same in HTML/JS today. Even if the framework might lend itself to some bad practices, or if we don't have best p

Re: [LOGO] Willy Ci

+1 from me also Claudiu From: Jeffry Houser To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Willy Ci Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [LOGO] Willy Ci   I like it's simplicity.  I might make the feather a bit smaller, and if possibly provide

Re: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Sebastian Mohr wrote: > I am talking about building large-scale Flex apps and > how to build them the best way. > Eh. I'd say that you'd be spinning your wheels on this one and don't know how many people would catch on. There are so many frameworks and ways to de

Re: [LOGO] Willy Ci

I like it's simplicity. I might make the feather a bit smaller, and if possibly provide some more details, such that is in the actual Apache Feather. On 1/11/2012 3:04 PM, Willy Ci wrote: * http://flexcode.org/af_logo_preview.png Thanks! Willy Ci* * * *e: will...@gmail.com* *c: 617-60

Re: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications

@Roland hmm ... maybe you are right ;) But this is not my concern now. I am talking about building large-scale Flex apps and how to build them the best way. -- Sebastian On Jan 11, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Roland Zwaga wrote: > Hehe, I think Alex mean the Flash Player as the constrained environme

[LOGO] Willy Ci

* http://flexcode.org/af_logo_preview.png Thanks! Willy Ci* * * *e: will...@gmail.com * *c: 617-606-3437 * -- 6 X 9 = 42 meaning of life ---

Re: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications

On 1/11/12 11:47 AM, "Sebastian Mohr" wrote: > Sorry ... where is a constraint environment in an open Apache Flex? Flash is a constrained environment. It is a VM running in a browser in an operating system, surrounded by various layers of security. Developing for it is not too far removed fr

Re: IRC Channel link on website?

On 1/11/12 11:48 AM, "Michel Boudreau" wrote: > I'm not sure I understand your concern Alex. Flex is now part of Apache, > no? I mean, still in incubator status, but no longer Adobe's. The reason > why I like to specify is because we do have people come in for the fast > lexicon analyzer wh

RE: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications

> From: Raju Bitter [mailto:rajubit...@googlemail.com] > Sent: 11 January 2012 18:59 >> I will repeat my cautionary statement that we are working in a >> constrained environment and will likely need to cheat on occasion. >Right, we only need to know when we should cheat. :-) I got the impressio

Re: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications

Hehe, I think Alex mean the Flash Player as the constrained environment here, i.e. it has some limitations. On 11 January 2012 20:47, Sebastian Mohr wrote: > @Alex ... > > > Some coding practice document will be a good thing, but I can still write > > bad code using it. > > > IMHO ... there is n

Re: IRC Channel link on website?

I'm not sure I understand your concern Alex. Flex is now part of Apache, no? I mean, still in incubator status, but no longer Adobe's. The reason why I like to specify is because we do have people come in for the fast lexicon analyzer which is also named flex. M On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Re: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications

@Alex ... > Some coding practice document will be a good thing, but I can still write > bad code using it. IMHO ... there is no need to waste time in writing more documentation ... we need more a "SHOW ME THE CODE" (in short "SMTC") approach ... just "SMTC" and only "SMTC". Time to philosophize

Re: IRC Channel link on website?

Sent from my mobile device. On Jan 11, 2012, at 1:35 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > On 1/11/12 11:20 AM, "Michel Boudreau" wrote: > >> I like the idea Bertrand. I changed the title of the chan to "Apache Flex >> Help Channel". >> > I am not in favor of "Apache" in the title for this channel. Mayb

Re: IRC Channel link on website?

On 1/11/12 11:20 AM, "Michel Boudreau" wrote: > I like the idea Bertrand. I changed the title of the chan to "Apache Flex > Help Channel". > I am not in favor of "Apache" in the title for this channel. -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui

Re: IRC Channel link on website?

I like the idea Bertrand. I changed the title of the chan to "Apache Flex Help Channel". M On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > On 1/11/12 6:10 AM, "Nicolas COQUELET" wrote: > > > IMHO, I think users like choose theirs places for discuss and ask help, > > like forums, cha

Re: IRC Channel link on website?

Quoting Alex Harui : Do they need links from the Apache Flex page? I would say no, Stackoverflow has done just fine without any references from Adobe. A good community will make noise and get heard via other methods. Right, I guess I just have to get my head out of the fact that the websi

Re: [LOGO] Nuno Amorim

Hi, I like this logo. It looks very professional. The icon X is very clear with four corners. +1 for the logo. Abhilash On 11 January 2012 18:32, Nuno Amorim wrote: > Hello, this is my entry for the apache flex logo contest. > > PNG Preview > http://standarte.pt/**apacheflex/Apacheflex.png

Re: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications

On 1/11/12 10:59 AM, "Raju Bitter" wrote: > Right, we only need to know when we should cheat. :-) Here's a real life example. In a prototype of carving UIComponent into many little pieces, it suffered from overhead of calling between the styles and layout pieces. It might be in some future,

[LOGO] Revision 1: Erik Lundgren

Hi, I've made som changes to my logo, based on some feedback from you guys and gals. :) New custom font and changed the composition. Address is the same: http://lndgrn.se/blog/logo/ Cheers! /Erik

Re: ActionScript and Apache Flex

On 1/11/12 2:38 AM, "Dirk Eismann" wrote: > > I think I saw some JIRA issues in the Adobe JIRA some time ago where > folks talked about how they enhanced the mxmlc / asc compilers to > evaluate metadata at pre-compile time to emit code. The same could > happen with custom language additions.

Re: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications

> I will repeat my cautionary statement that we are working in a constrained > environment and will likely need to cheat on occasion. Right, we only need to know when we should cheat. :-)

Re: Raising barriers

On 1/11/12 2:43 AM, "Raju Bitter" wrote: > If you want to turn Apache Flex into a software development team > outside Adobe, executing an Adobe roadmap for Flex, well that's not > what I'm interested in. Independence from Adobe would be a good thing. But we have been cautioned many times alre

Re: IRC Channel link on website?

On 1/11/12 6:10 AM, "Nicolas COQUELET" wrote: > IMHO, I think users like choose theirs places for discuss and ask help, > like forums, chat rooms or user mailing list. > Newbies probably prefer forums or chat room to ml. > This will keep user ml for passionate people and expert discussion. > S

Re: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications

On 1/11/12 8:17 AM, "Sebastian Mohr" wrote: > I think what the Flex community really needs is some > kind of website where best coding practice examples > will be collected and managed for the next ongoing > years of Flex. Some coding practice document will be a good thing, but I can still wri

[LOGO] Nuno Amorim

Hello, this is my entry for the apache flex logo contest. PNG Preview http://standarte.pt/apacheflex/Apacheflex.png ZIP FILE http://standarte.pt/apacheflex/Apacheflex.ai.zip Best Regards Nuno Amorim

Re: IRC Channel link on website?

Quoting Bertrand Delacretaz : On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Jonathan Campos wrote: On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz < bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote: We might actually want to rename that website page "communication channels" and over time include references to where

Re: IRC Channel link on website?

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Jonathan Campos wrote: > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz < > bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote: > >> We might actually want to rename that website page "communication >> channels" and over time include references to where the action is, >> stackov

Re: [Account] Getting my apache account added to the flex podling

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Skogen, Espen wrote: > ...- Could someone add my apache account to the flex incubator repo? The > account is espensko...@apache.org done. -Bertrand

Re: svn is ready

On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: >>> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz >>> wrote: ...The following users should now be able to commit the flex subtree, feel free to commit something (clever ;-) to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incuba

Re: IRC Channel link on website?

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz < bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote: > We might actually want to rename that website page "communication > channels" and over time include references to where the action is, > stackoverflow tags, etc. but that's a distinct question. > I like this

[Account] Getting my apache account added to the flex podling

Hi PPMC members - Could someone add my apache account to the flex incubator repo? The account is espensko...@apache.org Thanks Espen Skogen | Vice President | IB Tech Market | Investment Bank | J.P. Morgan | 125 London Wall, EC2Y

Re: IRC Channel link on website?

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > ...Apache seems to have many successful projects using a projectname-user > mailing list and has conventions for lazy consensus.  It would be my > preference to try their mechanism and see if we get complaints that > something isn't working for

Re: IRC Channel link on website?

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:40 AM, Michel Boudreau wrote: > ...If the "official" tag on the title is the problem, I don't have any issue > changing it.  However, I personally despise mailing list.  I can barely > stand this one for the sheer amount of emails, but I'll survive Note that the "if

Re: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications

On Jan 11, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Quentin Le Hénaff wrote: > I propose to list all bad design we know about the Flex 3 and 4 frameworks > and propose technical/designs solutions ; should the JIRA do the stuff? For the moment, I have done it the other way around ... which means proposing "good design"

[LOGO]

All of the LOGO candidates are playing with actual name- Flax and "X" letter. I would like to see something different - maybe more round shapes, like sphere/circle with 2 or 3-D kind of wavy plane/surface in the middle, maybe under an angle. It can represent flexibility, universality, connection

Re: IRC Channel link on website?

On Tuesday, January 10, 2012, Alex Harui wrote: > I'm not liking it, and have no plans to use it. I would think we would set > up a flex-user mailing list instead. +1 I haven't used IRC since I was partying like it was 1999.

Re: [LOGO] Samuel Janzen

I don't think that there is too much similarity with the vmvare logo neither. But still an important concern, to keep uniqueness in mind... 2012/1/11 Dirk Eismann > nice, Samuel. I still like the initial version best (#4 is also nice > btw, fresh color) > > It's not that similar to the VMWare Pl

Re: [LOGO] Samuel Janzen

nice, Samuel. I still like the initial version best (#4 is also nice btw, fresh color) It's not that similar to the VMWare Player logo anymore if you look at the "pure" logo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:VMware_Player_logo.png The VMWare logo consists of 3 arrows and an arc / corner plus it

Re: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications

> > As part of my research, for now I think "Building large-scale > Flex applications is simple" is a false-proof statement. If you > don't believe that, please have a look to all those Flex application > which have to deal with more then 150 MXML files and all their > worries and issues they ran i

Re: [LOGO] Samuel Janzen

I personally like Variation 1 best; however I have concerns--which I think others have voiced about the similarity to a VMWare logo ( http://www.vmwarez.com/uploaded_images/playercap3-777309.gif ). On 1/11/2012 9:54 AM, Samuel Janzen wrote: Find below the UPDATED logo overview with four dif

Re: Raising barriers

2012/1/11 Paul Evans : > > On 11 Jan 2012, at 02:04, Rui Silva wrote: > >> look like we're trying really hard to find ways this project could or >> should fail > > I have to say I personally didn't reach that conclusion from anything so far > written. Thanks, Paul. I think that everyone within the

Re: [LOGO] Samuel Janzen

+1 on variation #2 - dynamic and growth Original Message > From: "Paul Evans" > Sent: quarta-feira, 11 de Janeiro de 2012 15:00 > To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [LOGO] Samuel Janzen > > I prefer variation #2 - dynamic arrows

Re: [LOGO] Samuel Janzen

I prefer variation #2 - dynamic arrows

[LOGO] Samuel Janzen

Find below the UPDATED logo overview with four different logo variations. This is a new thread with the previous logo (and it's updates) and changed subject to keep feedback for the different logos seperate. Overview: http://samueljanzen.com/share/image/apache-flex-logo-overview.png zip: http://s

Re: IRC Channel link on website?

2012/1/11 Alex Harui > > IRC is a place to go to either discuss the technology, ask > > a consensus among several flex experts or ask questions pertinant to Flex > > that isn't easily accessible through search. It's a place of discussion, > > not only of Q&A. In no way should this be a replacem

Re: Raising barriers

On 11 Jan 2012, at 02:04, Rui Silva wrote: > look like we're trying really hard to find ways this project could or > should fail I have to say I personally didn't reach that conclusion from anything so far written. IMO, where people perceive issues I'd much rather they were aired and on the

Re: Raising barriers

> I'll be careful to not create additional barriers for this project. > Thank you Raju, I think we're all aware well of some of the possible obstacles but trying to focus on the here and now to move things forward. As the *cliché* says: "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step" :)

Re: Raising barriers

I've thought again about Rui's comments, and I think he's right: The first thing Apache Flex needs is a positive start, and not additional barriers. The Apache Flex community has to proof that the community is capable of releasing a first version of Apache Flex, and to have the project infrastruct

Re: Where should people ask basic development questions?

Quoting Brent Arnold : Mailing lists are nice and all, but newbies live in the 21st century. ;-) Brent IMHO, Mailing lists are essential to development like pencils are the "quickest" way to sketch out and idea. I really think this is why Apache is so successful as a unit, they have not

Re: Where should people ask basic development questions?

Hi, I agree with Alex in that we should concentrate everything here while the project is forming. Providing too many dispersion at this point will inevitably lead to things being missed, people being misunderstood and wasted energy in general. I am definitely +1 to keep everything in this list

Re: Where should people ask basic development questions?

I would be happy to contribute a forum to the community, I have several dedicated servers I could run it on one of them and give admin access to the forums/db to selected contributors. Wael On 11/01/2012 09:51, "Peter Elst" wrote: >> Stackoverflow might actually be the preferred platform, no? >

Re: Where should people ask basic development questions?

>>I think the existing community driven places where folks ask questions and exchange their knowledge already work. +1 to that On 11 January 2012 10:13, Dirk Eismann wrote: > > Apart from that people just go to whatever community resources they want. > > agreed. There are lots of non-official f

Re: Raising barriers

1+ On Jan 11, 2012, at 3:04 AM, Rui Silva wrote: > Alex and Carol, not to put > more pressure on the amazing effort you guys are already doing, but we > really need that code and JIRA ported as soon as humanly possible. I have > complete faith that you will do your absolute best. @Alex and @C

Re: Raising barriers

And you are right, Alex and Carol are doing an amazing job, which I'm very thankful for.

Re: Raising barriers

> I'll take this chance to make a statement of intent: I will not engage nor > answer to threads that basically deal with things that have no real > influence on the immediate future of Flex and how we can bring that to > fruition. Good point, but at the beginning of the project I like to have a cl

Re: ActionScript and Apache Flex

2012/1/11 David Arno : > The compiler turns the language into bytecode. If we have control of a > AVM-targeting compiler, then we are free to define the specification of the > language that it compiles. exactly my point, same as Scala does for the JVM (see my previous post) I think I saw some JIR

Re: ActionScript and Apache Flex

+lots to exciting times On 10 January 2012 23:50, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > On 1/10/12 3:26 PM, "David Arno" wrote: > > > I assume you mean here that the mxmlc compiler uses code also found in > the > > asc compiler? > Yes. Actually, these days, it shortcuts that a bit, but that was > essentia

Re: Where should people ask basic development questions?

> Apart from that people just go to whatever community resources they want. agreed. There are lots of non-official forums and lists already, especially if you look at country / region specific ones where people not necessarily want to discuss stuff in English all the time. And in the end it boils

Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications

I would like define a goal for future versions of Flex: Goal: "Strengthening large-scale Flex applications" http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/WhatsWrongWithFlex#3.1._Strengthening_large-scale_Flex_applications As part of my research, for now I think "Building large-scale Flex applications

Re: Where should people ask basic development questions?

> Stackoverflow might actually be the preferred platform, no? A bit confused what we are talking about - do we want to promote stackoverflow, etc. as "official" help resources? I personally don't think that should happen, the flex-user list will be what people have available here when there are

RE: Raising barriers

I second that.. E Espen Skogen | Vice President | IB Tech Market | Investment Bank | J.P. Morgan | 125 London Wall, EC2Y 5AJ, London, United Kingdom | T: +442077420836 | espen.sko...@jpmorgan.com | jpmorgan.com -Original Message- From: Rui Silva [mailto:f...@rduartes.net] Sent: 11

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