Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2022-01-03 Thread Soft Works
> -Original Message- > From: ffmpeg-devel On Behalf Of Jean- > Baptiste Kempf > Sent: Monday, January 3, 2022 6:32 AM > To: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org > Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release > > On Fri, 31 Dec 2021, at 20:40, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > &g

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2022-01-03 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 09:29:40PM +0100, Paul B Mahol wrote: > On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 9:14 PM Michael Niedermayer > wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 08:25:44PM +0100, Paul B Mahol wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 7:58 PM Michael Niedermayer < > > mich...@niedermayer.cc> > > > wrote: > > >

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2022-01-03 Thread Paul B Mahol
On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 9:14 PM Michael Niedermayer wrote: > On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 08:25:44PM +0100, Paul B Mahol wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 7:58 PM Michael Niedermayer < > mich...@niedermayer.cc> > > wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 07:04:48PM +0100, Paul B Mahol wrote: > > > > O

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2022-01-03 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 08:25:44PM +0100, Paul B Mahol wrote: > On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 7:58 PM Michael Niedermayer > wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 07:04:48PM +0100, Paul B Mahol wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 6:18 PM Hendrik Leppkes > > wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 5:1

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2022-01-03 Thread Paul B Mahol
On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 7:58 PM Michael Niedermayer wrote: > On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 07:04:48PM +0100, Paul B Mahol wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 6:18 PM Hendrik Leppkes > wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 5:14 PM Michael Niedermayer > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2022-01-03 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 05:14:13PM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 06:31:37AM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > > On Fri, 31 Dec 2021, at 20:40, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > >> It would be nice to have a public date set a few days into the future. > > > > > > yes, i

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2022-01-03 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 07:04:48PM +0100, Paul B Mahol wrote: > On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 6:18 PM Hendrik Leppkes wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 5:14 PM Michael Niedermayer > > wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 06:31:37AM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > > > > On Fri, 31 Dec 2021,

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2022-01-03 Thread Paul B Mahol
On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 6:18 PM Hendrik Leppkes wrote: > On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 5:14 PM Michael Niedermayer > wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 06:31:37AM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > > > On Fri, 31 Dec 2021, at 20:40, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > > >> It would be nice to have a pub

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2022-01-03 Thread Hendrik Leppkes
On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 6:17 PM Hendrik Leppkes wrote: > > Unfortunately the patch was also never on the ML for discussion or review. > Sorry, I was blind, it was in fact on the ML. I must've been thinking of something else.. - Hendrik ___ ffmpeg-devel

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2022-01-03 Thread Hendrik Leppkes
On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 5:14 PM Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 06:31:37AM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > > On Fri, 31 Dec 2021, at 20:40, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > >> It would be nice to have a public date set a few days into the future. > > > > > > yes, i intended

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2022-01-03 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 06:31:37AM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > On Fri, 31 Dec 2021, at 20:40, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > >> It would be nice to have a public date set a few days into the future. > > > > yes, i intended to do that, unless people wanted a ASAP/NOW branch > > So what are th

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2022-01-02 Thread Jean-Baptiste Kempf
On Fri, 31 Dec 2021, at 20:40, Michael Niedermayer wrote: >> It would be nice to have a public date set a few days into the future. > > yes, i intended to do that, unless people wanted a ASAP/NOW branch So what are the open topics, besides the Audio Channel Layout API? Best, -- Jean-Baptiste Ke

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2022-01-02 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Sun, Jan 02, 2022 at 11:29:18PM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > On Sun, Jan 02, 2022 at 07:12:54PM +0100, Lynne wrote: > > 2 Jan 2022, 18:11 by mich...@niedermayer.cc: > > > > > On Sun, Jan 02, 2022 at 05:28:24PM +0100, Lynne wrote: > > > > > >> 2 Jan 2022, 16:52 by z...@zanevaniperen.com:

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2022-01-02 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Sun, Jan 02, 2022 at 07:12:54PM +0100, Lynne wrote: > 2 Jan 2022, 18:11 by mich...@niedermayer.cc: > > > On Sun, Jan 02, 2022 at 05:28:24PM +0100, Lynne wrote: > > > >> 2 Jan 2022, 16:52 by z...@zanevaniperen.com: > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > On 3/1/22 01:09, James Almer wrote: > >> > > >> Re

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2022-01-02 Thread Lynne
2 Jan 2022, 18:11 by mich...@niedermayer.cc: > On Sun, Jan 02, 2022 at 05:28:24PM +0100, Lynne wrote: > >> 2 Jan 2022, 16:52 by z...@zanevaniperen.com: >> >> > >> > >> > On 3/1/22 01:09, James Almer wrote: >> > >> Reverting something in the release branch is already going to be dirty >>

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2022-01-02 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Sun, Jan 02, 2022 at 05:28:24PM +0100, Lynne wrote: > 2 Jan 2022, 16:52 by z...@zanevaniperen.com: > > > > > > > On 3/1/22 01:09, James Almer wrote: > > > Reverting something in the release branch is already going to be dirty > no matter what, because we do a minor bump to ensure the

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2022-01-02 Thread Lynne
2 Jan 2022, 16:52 by z...@zanevaniperen.com: > > > On 3/1/22 01:09, James Almer wrote: > Reverting something in the release branch is already going to be dirty no matter what, because we do a minor bump to ensure the release has its own soname. Right now that'd mean 5.0 will be lavf

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2022-01-02 Thread Zane van Iperen
On 3/1/22 01:09, James Almer wrote: Reverting something in the release branch is already going to be dirty no matter what, because we do a minor bump to ensure the release has its own soname. Right now that'd mean 5.0 will be lavf 59.13, while lacking a demuxer available in lavf 59.12 Depe

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2022-01-02 Thread James Almer
On 1/2/2022 11:50 AM, Zane van Iperen wrote: On Monday, 3 January 2022 12:29:02 AM AEST James Almer wrote: There were some disagreements on IRC a few days ago about what should and should not go into the release because of insufficient fuzzing and the danger of introducing security issues. To

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2022-01-02 Thread Zane van Iperen
On Monday, 3 January 2022 12:29:02 AM AEST James Almer wrote: > > There were some disagreements on IRC a few days ago about what should > > and should not go into the release because of insufficient fuzzing and > > the danger of introducing security issues. > > > > To avoid conflicts around this

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2022-01-02 Thread James Almer
On 1/2/2022 11:12 AM, Anton Khirnov wrote: Quoting Michael Niedermayer (2021-12-31 20:40:24) On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 10:45:46PM +0530, Gyan Doshi wrote: On 2021-12-31 10:22 pm, Michael Niedermayer wrote: On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 12:55:14AM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote: On Wed, Dec 22, 20

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2022-01-02 Thread Anton Khirnov
Quoting Michael Niedermayer (2021-12-31 20:40:24) > On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 10:45:46PM +0530, Gyan Doshi wrote: > > > > > > On 2021-12-31 10:22 pm, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 12:55:14AM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 05:44:42PM +010

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-31 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 10:45:46PM +0530, Gyan Doshi wrote: > > > On 2021-12-31 10:22 pm, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 12:55:14AM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 05:44:42PM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > > > > On Wed, 22 Dec 2021, at

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-31 Thread Lynne
31 Dec 2021, 17:52 by mich...@niedermayer.cc: > On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 12:55:14AM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 05:44:42PM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: >> > On Wed, 22 Dec 2021, at 15:05, James Almer wrote: >> > > Is the December target to get into the featur

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-31 Thread Gyan Doshi
On 2021-12-31 10:22 pm, Michael Niedermayer wrote: On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 12:55:14AM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote: On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 05:44:42PM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: On Wed, 22 Dec 2021, at 15:05, James Almer wrote: Is the December target to get into the feature freez

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-31 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 12:55:14AM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 05:44:42PM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Dec 2021, at 15:05, James Almer wrote: > > > Is the December target to get into the feature freeze schedule from > > > distros? > > > > No, it

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-27 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 05:44:42PM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > On Wed, 22 Dec 2021, at 15:05, James Almer wrote: > > Is the December target to get into the feature freeze schedule from > > distros? > > No, it was set by me, in order to get the distro freezes from January. > > We can mis

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-22 Thread Jean-Baptiste Kempf
On Wed, 22 Dec 2021, at 15:05, James Almer wrote: > Is the December target to get into the feature freeze schedule from > distros? No, it was set by me, in order to get the distro freezes from January. We can miss the target a bit this year, and then make it better for 2022. BEst,. -- Jean-Ba

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-22 Thread James Almer
On 12/22/2021 11:03 AM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 07:05:07PM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: On Mon, 13 Dec 2021, at 16:25, Michael Niedermayer wrote: If you know of any major issues which need to be done before the release do them now. If you know of any issues wh

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-22 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 07:05:07PM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > On Mon, 13 Dec 2021, at 16:25, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > If you know of any major issues which need to be done before the release do > > them > > now. If you know of any issues which are release-blocking list them in a >

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-15 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 04:08:43PM +0100, Diederick C. Niehorster wrote: > Hi Michael, > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 3:52 PM Michael Niedermayer > wrote: > > > > On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 05:42:01PM +0100, Diederick C. Niehorster wrote: > > > Hi Michael, > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:19 PM Mi

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-15 Thread Diederick C. Niehorster
Hi Michael, On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 3:52 PM Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 05:42:01PM +0100, Diederick C. Niehorster wrote: > > Hi Michael, > > > > On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:19 PM Michael Niedermayer > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > The patches do not say in their commit mess

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-15 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 05:42:01PM +0100, Diederick C. Niehorster wrote: > Hi Michael, > > On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:19 PM Michael Niedermayer > wrote: > > > > On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 10:27:33PM +0100, Diederick C. Niehorster wrote: > > > Hi Michael, > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 4:26 PM Mi

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-14 Thread Diederick C. Niehorster
Hi Michael, On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:19 PM Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 10:27:33PM +0100, Diederick C. Niehorster wrote: > > Hi Michael, > > > > On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 4:26 PM Michael Niedermayer > > wrote: > > > > > > If you know of any major issues which need to be

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-14 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 10:27:33PM +0100, Diederick C. Niehorster wrote: > Hi Michael, > > On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 4:26 PM Michael Niedermayer > wrote: > > > > If you know of any major issues which need to be done before the release do > > them > > now. If you know of any issues which are releas

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-14 Thread James Almer
On 12/14/2021 5:44 AM, Marton Balint wrote: On Tue, 14 Dec 2021, Anton Khirnov wrote: Quoting Marton Balint (2021-12-13 22:30:25) On Mon, 13 Dec 2021, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: On Mon, 13 Dec 2021, at 16:25, Michael Niedermayer wrote: If you know of any major issues which need to be

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-14 Thread Reto Kromer
Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: >On Mon, 13 Dec 2021, at 16:25, Michael Niedermayer wrote: >> previous unused suggestions where: >> Von Neumann, Lorentz, Poincaré, Desitter, De Broglie, Gauss, >> Galois, Viterbi, Darwin > >I'd love a "Lorentz" release :) +1 "Bayer", the inventor of a filter mosaic ..

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-14 Thread Marton Balint
On Tue, 14 Dec 2021, Anton Khirnov wrote: Quoting Marton Balint (2021-12-13 22:30:25) On Mon, 13 Dec 2021, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: On Mon, 13 Dec 2021, at 16:25, Michael Niedermayer wrote: If you know of any major issues which need to be done before the release do them now. If you kn

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-13 Thread Anton Khirnov
Quoting Marton Balint (2021-12-13 22:30:25) > > > On Mon, 13 Dec 2021, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > > > On Mon, 13 Dec 2021, at 16:25, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > >> If you know of any major issues which need to be done before the release > >> do them > >> now. If you know of any issues which

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-13 Thread Hendrik Leppkes
On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 8:48 PM Anton Khirnov wrote: > > > - The request to wait for a new string handling API to land and be used > > for the relevant functions in this set. This has not seen opposition > > from anyone yet, but it's not very feasible if said new API is not yet > > in a state beyo

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-13 Thread Marton Balint
On Mon, 13 Dec 2021, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: On Mon, 13 Dec 2021, at 16:25, Michael Niedermayer wrote: If you know of any major issues which need to be done before the release do them now. If you know of any issues which are release-blocking list them in a reply here please. Maybe the a

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-13 Thread Diederick C. Niehorster
Hi Michael, On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 4:26 PM Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > If you know of any major issues which need to be done before the release do > them > now. If you know of any issues which are release-blocking list them in a reply > here please. Not major, but https://ffmpeg.org/piperm

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-13 Thread Nicolas George
James Almer (12021-12-13): > I wholly agree. Hence me suggesting using AVBPrint in the meantime. It > certainly beats a uint8_t* + size_t combination, and it's trivial to do. There are a few misunderstanding here. For the per-channel label, I insist on at least a string, but a plain C string, eve

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-13 Thread Nicolas George
Lynne (12021-12-13): > Consensus was reached. A 16-bit opaque identifier, which users can > simply use as an index into their own frame opaque structure, if they > want, and a 16-bit channel identifier, which would result in a 32-bit > structure, which is pretty acceptable. No, consensus was not r

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-13 Thread Anton Khirnov
Quoting James Almer (2021-12-13 21:05:30) > > > On 12/13/2021 5:01 PM, Anton Khirnov wrote: > > Quoting James Almer (2021-12-13 20:51:05) > >> > >> > >> On 12/13/2021 4:47 PM, Anton Khirnov wrote: > >>> Quoting James Almer (2021-12-13 20:04:34) > > > On 12/13/2021 3:05 PM, Jean-Bap

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-13 Thread James Almer
On 12/13/2021 5:01 PM, Anton Khirnov wrote: Quoting James Almer (2021-12-13 20:51:05) On 12/13/2021 4:47 PM, Anton Khirnov wrote: Quoting James Almer (2021-12-13 20:04:34) On 12/13/2021 3:05 PM, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: On Mon, 13 Dec 2021, at 16:25, Michael Niedermayer wrote: If yo

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-13 Thread Anton Khirnov
Quoting James Almer (2021-12-13 20:51:05) > > > On 12/13/2021 4:47 PM, Anton Khirnov wrote: > > Quoting James Almer (2021-12-13 20:04:34) > >> > >> > >> On 12/13/2021 3:05 PM, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > >>> On Mon, 13 Dec 2021, at 16:25, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > If you know of any majo

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-13 Thread James Almer
On 12/13/2021 4:47 PM, Anton Khirnov wrote: Quoting James Almer (2021-12-13 20:04:34) On 12/13/2021 3:05 PM, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: On Mon, 13 Dec 2021, at 16:25, Michael Niedermayer wrote: If you know of any major issues which need to be done before the release do them now. If you kn

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-13 Thread Anton Khirnov
Quoting James Almer (2021-12-13 20:04:34) > > > On 12/13/2021 3:05 PM, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Dec 2021, at 16:25, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > >> If you know of any major issues which need to be done before the release > >> do them > >> now. If you know of any issues which are

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-13 Thread Lynne
13 Dec 2021, 20:04 by jamr...@gmail.com: > > > On 12/13/2021 3:05 PM, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > >> On Mon, 13 Dec 2021, at 16:25, Michael Niedermayer wrote: >> >>> If you know of any major issues which need to be done before the release do >>> them >>> now. If you know of any issues which are

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-13 Thread James Almer
On 12/13/2021 3:05 PM, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: On Mon, 13 Dec 2021, at 16:25, Michael Niedermayer wrote: If you know of any major issues which need to be done before the release do them now. If you know of any issues which are release-blocking list them in a reply here please. Maybe the

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-13 Thread Jean-Baptiste Kempf
On Mon, 13 Dec 2021, at 16:25, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > If you know of any major issues which need to be done before the release do > them > now. If you know of any issues which are release-blocking list them in a reply > here please. Maybe the audio channel layout would be nice to settle bef

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-13 Thread Jean-Baptiste Kempf
On Mon, 13 Dec 2021, at 16:25, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > previous unused suggestions where: > Von Neumann, Lorentz, Poincaré, Desitter, De Broglie, Gauss, Galois, > Viterbi, Darwin I'd love a "Lorentz" release :) -- Jean-Baptiste Kempf - President +33 672 704 734 ___

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 release

2021-12-13 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 06:19:32PM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > Hi all > > just wanted to remind everyone of the plan (suggested by jb) to make the > 5.0 release in december > i dont know if that will work out but please avoid introducing > risky changes until the release branch splits off