Re: [EVDL] FLA battery terminals & lugs

2014-06-03 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have an S-10 electric conversion with 20 6 Volt golf cart batteries. They have studs. I am on my 2nd set of batteries and haven't melted any lead or had any studs pull out. I tighten them with a small (6") wrench wrapped in electrical tape, so can't

Re: [EVDL] FLA battery terminals & lugs

2014-06-03 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/03/2014 12:39 PM, Roland wrote: > Are you guys talking about the low profile studs or the high auto > post with imbedded stud? I believe mine are the "low profile"...I certainly couldn't get a regular auto post style connector on them...the le

Re: [EVDL] FLA battery terminals & lugs

2014-06-03 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/03/2014 10:19 AM, KenA via EV wrote: > I'm tempted to build a set of lugged cables to try but I think my > use pattern may be the real culprit here. > > My commute is now 15 miles of mostly highway travel - typically at > 55mph. It's not uncom

Re: [EVDL] Vibration

2014-06-09 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 One thing to check is your non-drivetrain elements, although if you get the vibration without moving in neutral it's probably in the drivetrain. The reason I mention it is that our car had developed a vibration at the 58-60 MPH speed range, and it tur

Re: [EVDL] electric leaf blower hovercraft

2014-07-25 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've seen plans on the Internet to make a small (3-5 foot diameter sit on disk) "Hovercraft" out of a piece of plywood and an (ICE) leaf blower (+thick plastic shower curtain skirt). Unfortunately, my little Black & Decker "hard surface sweeper" http

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: AC or DC?

2014-08-02 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Has anybody mentioned the Echo Drive (by Echo Automotive) yet? It sounds like it is a VERY close fit to what the original poster was looking for. Basically the Echo Drive is a motor that bolts onto the end of the transmission and connects to (a short

Re: [EVDL] Flooded lead-acid ooopsie and how to correct best?

2014-08-12 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/11/2014 04:11 PM, Roger Stockton via EV wrote: > Most likely a mechanical issue with the ganged caps. Given that you > water infrequently, you might want to check with your dealer to > see if they will supply you with individual caps. The in

Re: [EVDL] Protecting DC PWM Controller from low inductance/resistance motors

2014-08-12 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/11/2014 08:37 PM, Chris Tromley via EV wrote: > Also, I've never heard of anyone with an electric motor with a > manual transmission or direct drive that chooses to use the clutch. > That's generally considered an awkward work-around for a prob

Re: [EVDL] Flooded lead-acid ooopsie and how to correct best?

2014-08-12 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/12/2014 02:39 PM, Peter C. Thompson via EV wrote: > Another option is to add in an automatic water refill system, > similar to this: http://www.aquapro.net/overview_what.html > That does look nicebut man...one website I found sold the caps

Re: [EVDL] Flooded lead-acid ooopsie and how to correct best?

2014-08-12 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/12/2014 08:57 PM, Jay Summet via EV wrote: > > On 08/12/2014 02:39 PM, Peter C. Thompson via EV wrote: >> Another option is to add in an automatic water refill system, >> similar to this: http://www.aquapro.net/

Re: [EVDL] CALB bolt terminals getting hot -

2014-08-19 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/19/2014 07:54 PM, Ben Apollonio via EV wrote: > True enough, but if a 200Ah cell fails shorted, it still has 200Ah > to dump all by itself, which is likely to be equally catastrophic. > I think the probability of occurrence is higher with 200 1

Re: [EVDL] CALB bolt terminals getting hot -

2014-08-19 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/19/2014 09:12 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > So, if you want individual fusible cells, then a bus bar on both > terminals won't work. One side can be spot welded but the other > side needs the fuse wire - or something. Not sure how that c

Re: [EVDL] CALB bolt terminals getting hot -

2014-08-20 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 08/20/2014 10:22 AM, Lee Hart wrote: > Jay Summet via EV wrote: >> The eSamba guy is using a piece of "fuse wire" to each cell, so that >> if a single cell shorts out, the fuse wire blows... > > That's a good plan. Do you know how he tested it, to be su

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Incentives make buying a new EV better than buying used

2014-08-22 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 08/22/2014 10:25 AM, Rick Beebe via EV wrote: > LeasePurchase > Year 1-3 Downpayment $2400$2400 > 36 payments @ $ 199$ 300 > Year 4-5 downpayment $2400$ 0 > 24 payments @ $ 199$ 0 > Total: $16740

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Should Extension Cords Be Used With Plugins?(don't get burned)

2014-12-13 Thread Jay Summet via EV
> > My vehicle has an old-fashioned dumb charger that contains a > (resonant) transformer, so the lower the input voltage, the lower > the current. I have a 120 volt "QuickCharge" brand boat anchor (super big transformer) charger and it has that same feature. It slows down when you only get 108

Re: [EVDL] leaf 12 upgrade to 60kw

2022-04-09 Thread Jay Summet via EV
It would take longer (62kw / 3.3 = 18.7 hours). It is always possible that the on-board charger has a max charging time limit timeout that is reached before then (if it was set to expect to never charge more than 24 kwh) but I haven't heard anything about that. The DC fast charger should

Re: [EVDL] leaf 12 upgrade to 60kw

2022-04-10 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Sounds like your Leaf has a 6.6 kw charger (27.5 amps at 240 volts, or 30amps at 220v) as opposed to the slower 3.3 kW charger. 62kwh / 6.6kh = 9.3 hours (If you are able to charge at the full rate the whole time, typically it starts to taper off around 85-90% charged.) [Of course, the entire

Re: [EVDL] Leaf 12 upgrade to 60kw

2022-04-11 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I used pry-bars and screwdrivers & putty knifes on a 2013 leaf battery that was glued together. Now that I know what is inside (and how to not hit it), I'd use an air chisel. Jay On 4/11/22 21:01, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: FYI: I have opened the 60kWh LEAF packs, it can be done with a vibrating

Re: [EVDL] leaf heater switch

2022-05-19 Thread Jay Summet via EV
If you leave every morning at the same time, the in-car / dash based "climate timer" makes it easy to have your vehicle turn on the HVAC system just before (for example) 8am. (at whatever settings you left it when you turned off the car, so you need to be sure to set it right before you leave..

Re: [EVDL] leaf heater switch

2022-05-19 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 5/19/22 01:00, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: There's no way (at least that I'm aware of) to override [the charge timer]. It's plain idiotic. On my 2015 leaf, there is a dash button "Charge Timer Off" (it's an icon with a sorta clock and plug with the word "Off"). If you want to charge ma

Re: [EVDL] leaf heater switch

2022-05-19 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 5/19/22 10:44, jamie via EV wrote: But to claim the LEAF was immediately "abandoned" as a product would be a stretch as Nissan has added features, changed the battery tech and increased the range over successive model years. "Idiosyncrasies and workarounds" is a subjective judgement tha

Re: [EVDL] Gmail warning (list business)

2022-05-25 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 5/25/22 11:42, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: I've had a pretty decent experience with Dreamhost. There are probably thousands of others. Some even claim to run on renewable energy. I second the recommendation for DreamHost...I've been hosting my various websites and email with them fo

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: DC plans (accidental) EV tax

2022-06-13 Thread Jay Summet via EV
As an investor in Aptera (which is making lightweight aerodynamic EV's) I have no problem taxing heavy vehicles, regardless of their mode of propulsion. Heavy vehicles cause more wear on the road, are less efficient than light vehicles, and make the roads less safe for pedestrians, motorcycli

Re: [EVDL] This is why many (most?) EVs have governed top speed

2022-06-30 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Also why you shouldn't use DOT 3 brake fluid for racing... He had upgraded most of the stock brake system (rotors, calipers, etc) but left/re-used the stock brake fluid. Fluid boiled, gas in lines reduced/eliminated proper operation. Jay On 6/29/22 21:36, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: https:

Re: [EVDL] This is why many (most?) EVs have governed top speed

2022-07-01 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 7/1/22 06:03, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: On 30 Jun 2022 at 7:23, Jay Summet via EV wrote: Also why you shouldn't use DOT 3 brake fluid for racing... He had upgraded most of the stock brake system (rotors, calipers, etc) but left/re-used the stock brake fluid. Fluid boiled, g

Re: [EVDL] 120VAC from my truck?

2022-07-31 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Many solar inverters will accept DC input from a string of PV panels in that 300-400 vdc range and output 2k or more AC, but the tricky bit is that batteries don't act exactly like PV panels. I know Ben Nelson has used a solar inverter wired up to an iMev's battery pack via the DC fast chargin

Re: [EVDL] 120VAC from my truck?

2022-08-11 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Does your truck have a DC2DC converter and a larger 12v accessory battery? Seems like you could easily find a 1500 watt 12v inverter to run off of your 12v accessory battery. Depending upon your duty cycle you may not even need to upgrade the DC2DC converter... Jay On 8/11/22 16:28, John Lus

[EVDL] Anybody need a 120 -> 24v DC2DC? Meanwell SD-500H-24

2022-09-13 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Cleaning up the garage and I found a Meanwell SD-500H-24 power supply. I was originally using it to recharge my 24v well pump batteries off of my 120v truck pack. (But I've sold the truck) Input: DC 72-144v Output: DC 24v At 21 amps (500 watts). (Voltage slightly adjustable via a pot) A

Re: [EVDL] Where to post EV parts for sale?

2022-10-02 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I'd also recommend Ebay for anything small enough to ship. (And perhaps marked as local pickup only for the larger items?) Jay On 10/2/22 04:04, Andrew Letton via EV wrote: Hi EV Friends, I haven't been active on the list in over a decade, but have been subscribed since...as long as I can rem

Re: [EVDL] Maxwell Vehicles All-Electric Vanacea camper van

2022-10-30 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Nicehow much for a regular range, extended wheelbase Chassis (no build out) with Solar and heat pump? Jay On 10/30/22 21:32, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: https://maxwellvehicles.com/campers.html We are going to be at SEMA this week in Vegas if anyone wants to come have a look. -- nex

Re: [EVDL] Maxwell Vehicles All-Electric Vanacea camper van

2022-11-01 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Pump Estimated Price:$143,000 Jay On 10/30/22 23:54, (-Phil-) wrote: There is a link on the bottom of the page for a quote. On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 7:46 PM Jay Summet via EV <mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org>> wrote: Nicehow much for a regular range, extended

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-12 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 11/12/22 12:38, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Regardless, that's a huge spread from, say, $5k, to replace a leaf battery. My estimate would be 4-7k for a salvage 30 kwh pack + 2-3k labor, so I think your 5k hope is a bit low. Shifting a 30kwh to a 2011 requires special adapter cables as

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-17 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I have a 2015 leaf, 60k miles, 11 capacity bars (but likely to drop to 10 soon). I drive it relatively economically and get 4-4.8 miles per kwh for a real world range of 80-90 miles still at 35-45mph speeds. (less on freeways of course) I'm in Florida, and almost never see freezing temper

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-17 Thread Jay Summet via EV
ll the info you have found on replacing the pack. Ed  On Nov 17, 2022, at 7:21 PM, Jay Summet via EV wrote:  I have a 2015 leaf, 60k miles, 11 capacity bars (but likely to drop to 10 soon).  I drive it relatively economically and get 4-4.8 miles per kwh for a real world range of 80-9

Re: [EVDL] leaf 2013 battery

2022-11-22 Thread Jay Summet via EV
My understanding is that early 2013's had the original cell chemistry battery from 2011-2012late 2013's had the new cell chemistry used in 2014 onwards. So buying a 2014+ is the easy way to guarantee getting a "lizard" battery without looking up the exact date of manufacture, etc The

Re: [EVDL] Leaf. 80% charge setting.

2022-11-23 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 11/23/22 00:08, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: We have two Leafs..The 2013 will charge to 80%. The newer 2016 does not have the setting. Can it be added somehow? Lawrence Rhodes Short answer: No. Long Answer: 3 options 1. The only way to get similar effect (keeping the car below 80%

Re: [EVDL] Goodbye old friend.

2022-12-11 Thread Jay Summet via EV
After something like 7 or 9 price rises in the last year, Teslas are massively overpriced. Tesla now makes the highest profit margin of any US automaker. Interesting way to "change the world," eh? My understanding is that they make the highest number of EV's of all the manufactures (in th

Re: [EVDL] Tesla accepting CCS

2022-12-18 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 12/17/22 11:21, Willie McKemie via EV wrote: Yes, hate for Musk seems to dominate. Here and elsewhere. Despite his obvious skills and MANY successes. I am confused. I think it's partially because he appears to be an asshole who creates a toxic work environment. I respect the technical

Re: [EVDL] Tesla accepting CCS

2022-12-18 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 12/18/22 14:34, Lee Hart via EV wrote: My wife is one of those who refuse to consider a Tesla vehicle based upon his (miss) behavior... I think this is an example of the logical fallacies that permeate our society today. Basically, it's an "Ad hominem" (to the man) argument (attackin

Re: [EVDL] Leaf heat no go.

2023-02-03 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Most Leaf's have resistive heating elements (except for those that have a heat pump...but since your AC is working and the heat is not, you probably don't have a heat pump). Is is an early (2011-2013) model? I've heard that the resistive heating element on those guys are prone to going out.

Re: [EVDL] 2 acre riding lawn mower

2023-02-09 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I have almost the full set of Ego lawn / power products (no snow blower, and using the self propelled mower instead of the riding one...) and have been happy with them with one exception... The self propel unit on their early mowers would go out. (I had the mower replaced 2-3 times, and the s

Re: [EVDL] 2013 Leaf Regen during cold weather

2023-03-19 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Regen can sometimes be limited to protect the battery. (For example, when the battery is fully charged so shouldn't be accepting more charge, when it is very cold (so shouldn't be charged),etc... [Also, I believe as the battery ages, at some point (8 capacity bars?) regen is limited or cut off

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla wants to buy out your free supercharging

2023-05-18 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 5/17/23 18:49, paul dove via EV wrote: So, what is your alternative. A leaf? We've owned a 2015 leaf S (24kwh battery) since 2017 and it has been rock solid. We are currently also trying out a 2021 Leaf Plus (2nd gen -62 kwh battery) and have been very pleased with it as well. Jay

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla wants to buy out your free supercharging

2023-05-18 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 5/18/23 19:43, paul dove wrote: So, according to google a leaf in 2015 was 33 to $36k. > I paid $42k for my model 3 in 2018. We paid $12k for our 2015 Leaf in 2017 by buying it used (off lease). Jay ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No

Re: [EVDL] Game over the Tesla NACS wins the day

2023-06-11 Thread Jay Summet via EV
My understanding is that a Level 2 (J1772) charger does basically thatit uses the pilot pin to indicate how many amps can be pulled, and the car is expected to limit amp draw to that amount. (unless you use a card or phone app to "enable" or pay for the J1772 charger, in which chase they g

Re: [EVDL] need new home ESVE

2023-06-18 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Unless you have a vehicle with a NACS inlet, or plan to get one very soon, I would recommend sticking with a J1772 plug natively instead of using an adapter. Every adapter in the chain is a potential point of failure (high resistance leading to overheating and melting parts). Jay On 6/18/23 1

Re: [EVDL] need new home ESVE

2023-06-18 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 6/18/23 18:44, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: I do not recommend the mobile connector for daily use, it's got pretty thin cable and has a lot more loss, and eventually the cable seems to fail not far from the handle. Knowing this is a common failure mode is useful when considering if you want

Re: [EVDL] White House welcomes Tesla to take advantage of federal dollars for chargers

2023-06-20 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 6/20/23 13:19, EV@TucsonEV via EV wrote: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/white-house-says-tesla-chargers-available-feder al-dollars-long-they-include-ccs-2023-06-09/ I don't know how many of you caught this Reuters article, it seems that Tesla Superchargers are great for America as l

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 6/20/23 22:51, EV@TucsonEV via EV wrote: AC Level 2 208 to 240 V AC, 1-phase? 80 A Per NEC 625 "240 volt" power really has an acceptable range of voltage from 228 volts to 252. (My home regularly sits at 245 volts). But yes, pulling from one leg of a 3 phase at

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 6/21/23 15:40, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: I agree about the invasive logging, which is why I offer the service to disconnect a Tesla from Tesla's back end. This can be done in degrees, so no communication, only needed communication, or just no logging/telemetry (software updates still possibl

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-21 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 6/21/23 18:50, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: At 28mpg (Kia Sportage ICEV), fuel cost per mile = $0.128 At 43mpg (Kia Sportage Hybrid), fuel cost per mile = $0.083 At 29kWh / 100mi (Kia EV6), electricity cost per mile = $0.142 Ignoring the hybrid fuel cost red hearing (as the hybrid wo

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-23 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Maybe others here would like to post their per-mile (or per-km) costs. David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey 2015 Nissan Leaf S getting 4.8 miles per KWH, Duke energy in Florida (0.14 per kWh) = $0.029 (3 cents per mile of fuel costs...tire costs are probably more per mile) Jay

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 128, Issue 17

2023-06-23 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 6/23/23 09:45, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: Very interesting that the Chargepoint electricity (10 cents / kWh) is actually cheaper than your home electricity (13 cents / kWh). Bravo for Kent and Chargepoint. I have access to multiple chargepoint EVSE's that are "free" (no cost for cha

Re: [EVDL] HV cable suppliers

2023-07-20 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I've had good luck ordering welding cable by the foot from various ebay suppliers. The last order I made was from: https://www.ebay.com/str/acdcwireandsupply Jay On 7/20/23 12:59, Dave Lagzdin via EV wrote: Perhaps this isn't the best place to ask buit if someone wishes to redirect me that i

Re: [EVDL] (EVDL)EV charging is changing

2023-09-05 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 9/5/23 17:51, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: 2. It's limited. It can't carry much cargo or many people. This again raises the value-for-money question. It might have around 80 miles less range, but in parts of Europe a similar price gets you a Dacia Spring EV that can haul 4 people in rel

[EVDL] Replacement smart EVSE innards....

2023-09-08 Thread Jay Summet via EV
My classic (silver) JuiceBox 40 Pro has given up the ghost (6 short beeps, possibly indicating a pilot fault to ground error, although when I test continuity of the pilot line from the J1772 plug to the circuit board and/or to ground I don't find any issues...) I have a replacement "dumb" EVSE

Re: [EVDL] Bolt road trip

2023-10-07 Thread Jay Summet via EV
What year Bolt was it, and how did you find the comfort of the front seats? We test drove a (2017??) Bolt a while back and both my wife and I felt that the front seats "pinched" our hips (too narrow and weirdly shaped). I'd be interested to know if they have improved the seats or if you notic

Re: [EVDL] Bolt road trip

2023-10-07 Thread Jay Summet via EV
to change the angle on the head rests. Peri << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original Message -- From: "Jay Summet via EV" To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: "Jay Summet" Sent: 07-Oct-23 02:34:45 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Bolt road tr

Re: [EVDL] EV Towing

2023-10-26 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I still don't understand why the Tesla-3 says no towing and the Y does with the *same* drive train. 1. Different frame. 2. So they can justify charging more for the Y. Jay ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Cybertruck buyer's remorse not allowed?

2023-11-12 Thread Jay Summet via EV
This is a common type of contract for many high end / high demand vehicles. Some exotic sports cars are only offered to previous good customers, and they are prevented from re-selling them for a set time period for similar reasons. As long as you entered into the contract of your own free wi

Re: [EVDL] [GGEVA] Selling my Leaf.

2023-11-22 Thread Jay Summet via EV
The bars do not map directly to percentage health capacity (the first bar counts double). 12/12 bars is 85-100% 85% to 78.75% = 11 bars (6.25%) 78.75% to 72.5% = 10 bars (6.25%) 72.5% to 66.25% = 9 bars (6.25%) 66.25% to 60% = 8 bars (6.25%) 7/12 bars would equate to a SOH of: 60% to 53.75%

Re: [EVDL] Shorting a A123 26650 Cell

2023-11-28 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Lithium batteries are no joke. I personally have had more than one accident and many close calls despite being well aware of the danger and being very careful. My story involves a Nissan Leaf module. I had sat one upright against one of the steel compression plates and a table leg while assem

Re: [EVDL] Shorting a A123 26650 Cell

2023-11-28 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 11/28/23 17:15, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: I always regard that PSA as bollocks, monitor my smoke alarms and when they beep or stop blinking the red light once a minute, *then* I replace the battery. Happens maybe every 5 years, so I am not trashing cells that are more than 90% capacit

Re: [EVDL] consumer reports EV reliability

2023-11-30 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 11/30/23 11:15, Bill Dube via EV wrote: These stats don't align with my personal experience. We have owned two used Leafs over the past 7 years and have had zero (0) issues. Our used leaf has also been bulletproof. However, our other PHEV has been in the shop for 569 of the 1076 days we

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery pack for an E-10

2024-03-19 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 3/18/24 18:37, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: Note: You really do NOT need to tie the center posts to anything other than a BMS.  Even with cells in parallel. In my leaf pack I had a 3 Parallel x 16 Series battery pack. I tied each of the 3 "sense" center posts together for each set of 3 c

Re: [EVDL] [External] Re: EVLN: Tesla cuts 3 major departments

2024-05-04 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 5/4/24 15:41, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: Anyway, we're those folks who stay behind the slow traffic because we don't want or need to go faster. If we're not in a hurry, which is most of the time, we'd rather go slower and save electricity, range, and battery life. Heh, I guess I'm not

[EVDL] Aptera ditches in-wheel motors.....

2024-07-25 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Yet another car manufacturer who intended to use in-wheel motors but ended up with inboard. "Motor change: Aptera has integrated Vitesco Technologies’ EMR3 drivetrain into our production vehicles. Although we originally planned to launch with an in-wheel motor solution, the development t

[EVDL] Anybody in the Central Florida Area looking for old Nissan Leaf modules?

2024-08-04 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Back in 2015 I disassembled a 2013 Nissan Leaf battery pack and re-packaged the modules into 16 volt "batteries". Each "battery" has 6 modules, in a 3 parallel 2 series arrangement, with copper busbars and compression plates made of plywood. They are tapped/wired for BMS systems, but have no

Re: [EVDL] Charging port locations

2024-08-08 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I suspect that most people are more comfortable maneuvering their car between two other cars (with only 6-20" on each side) nose in. When you back out of a parking space, there is a LOT of room behind your car, without things on either side (usually). Jay On 8/8/24 12:38, (-Phil-) via EV wro

Re: [EVDL] Used EVs

2024-08-19 Thread Jay Summet via EV
At that price range, I'd recommend looking at the (Gen 2, 2018 and later) Nissan Leaf or Chevy Bolt. Both of those I've seen in the 12-16K range depending upon age/miles and trim level. If you want to guarantee you can get one under 13k, you might consider the 2015-2017 (Gen 1.5) Nissan Leaf

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

2024-09-04 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I have a solar system on my house, and have seen my "240" volt circuit jump as high as 245 when the solar system is adding 10 kw flowing back into the grid, never had an issue charging my Nissan Leaf at that slightly over spec range. I read somewhere that the national line voltage limits are 2

[EVDL] 120&240v (kit/assembled) battery charger? (Open source?)

2015-01-29 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I'm looking to buy a kit (or an assembled) battery charger for a 120v lead acid system, with an eye to upgrading to a LiIon system in the future (also near 120-130 volts, limited by my controller/motor combo). Requirements: -Must support customizable charging curves that I can tweak between L

Re: [EVDL] 120&240v (kit/assembled) battery charger? (Open source?)

2015-01-29 Thread Jay Summet via EV
> A 3kW one is only $1395 > > http://store.evtv.me/proddetail.php?prod=203vcharger > I like that option the most so far. (although I'd probably get the 160 volt 24 amp one instead of the 203v 20 amp one...) It comes pre-built and costs about the same as the build it yourself 12KW monster kit

Re: [EVDL] 120&240v (kit/assembled) battery charger? (Open source?)

2015-01-30 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 01/30/2015 01:11 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: Brusa will. They're one of the few manufacturers I know of that cater both to OEMs and hobbyists. They also have a Saft STM100 profile, which you could probably edit for other Saft blocks. A 1.6kw is $1775 and the 3.3kw chargers start

Re: [EVDL] 120&240v (kit/assembled) battery charger? (Open source?)

2015-01-30 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 01/29/2015 11:00 PM, Don Bradley via EV wrote: Jay, You may want to look at this charger for sale from Thunderstruck: http://www.thunderstruck-ev.com/pfc-ii-2500-and-charge-controller.html Thanks! I'm willing to go down to 2.5kW for that cost savings. Plus the compactness is nice fo

Re: [EVDL] 120&240v (kit/assembled) battery charger? (Open source?)

2015-01-30 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 01/30/2015 12:27 PM, Rush Dougherty via EV wrote: Jay wrote - http://www.thunderstruck-ev.com/pfc-ii-2500-and-charge-controller.html Also, the integrated j1772 signal decoding is a nice feature How is the Proximity protocol implemented in the charger? According to the website, it i

Re: [EVDL] 120&240v (kit/assembled) battery charger? (Open source?)

2015-02-04 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 02/04/2015 10:15 AM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: Jay Summet via EV wrote: I'm looking to buy a kit (or an assembled) battery charger for a 120v lead acid system, with an eye to upgrading to a LiIon system in the future (also near 120-130 volts, limited by my controller/motor combo). H

Re: [EVDL] 120&240v (kit/assembled) battery charger? (Open source?)

2015-02-05 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I think the hardest "feature" that I want (w.r.t. building a simple "bad boy" style charger) is the ability to automatically work with both 120v and 240v input, and switch between them without user intervention. With a simple phase control system, I imagine that this would mean I would have to onl

Re: [EVDL] 120&240v (kit/assembled) battery charger? (Open source?)

2015-02-05 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Thank you for all the pointers! > > That said... You will need two different cords anyway; one with a 120vac > plug on the end, and one with a 240vac plug on the end. The cord itself > can have a connector at the other end that plugs onto the charger with > whatever wiring is needed to change volt

[EVDL] Used Citicar in Alabama

2015-03-19 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I found this used citicar in Alabama on ebay, starting bid listed at $1,500: Item number 161641184142 http://www.ebay.com/itm/161641184142?forcerRptr=true&item=161641184142 Red in color, sold as a "project car" and needs restoration, but it looks

[EVDL] Seeking Advice: Reusing the battery modules from a Nissan Leaf

2015-03-24 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I am now the new owner of a totaled Nissan leaf purchased at a salvage yard. I'd like to hear any first hand accounts or links to tutorials/howto's/photos of anybody who has done this before. The plan is to drop and disassemble the battery pack, and re-package the modules into sixteen set of

Re: [EVDL] Seeking Advice: Reusing the battery modules from a Nissan Leaf

2015-03-24 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 03/24/2015 01:50 PM, Michael Ross wrote: I don't know how you would determine ahead of time if a Leaf pack has much capacity remaining. There is a lawsuit out because Nissan did a poor job of pack design where high temperatures are seen. Some packs in hot climates have lost half their capa

[EVDL] How I purchased a totaled Leaf for the battery pack

2015-03-26 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I wrote up details about the Salvage Auto-Auction process at CoPart and my experiences purchasing a wrecked Nissan Leaf at the following URL, along with a few pictures: http://www.summet.com/blog/2015/03/26/how-to-purchase-a-leaf-battery-pack-and-surr

Re: [EVDL] Time for battery change

2015-03-27 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/27/2015 08:02 PM, Roger Daisley via EV wrote: > > > After five years in my '86 VW Cabbie, my 96v flooded pack is ready > for replacement. I plan on adding two more batteries under the back > seat floor, using the Electro-Automotive kit, boost

[EVDL] Booting up a salvage Nissan Leaf

2015-03-28 Thread Jay Summet via EV
When my leaf was delivered it was "dead", but I was able to boot it up, clear error codes, and view the OEM BMS statistics via the OBDII port and the Android Leaf Spy application. The charging system, High Voltage battery and EV motive system all appear to be working correctly. If you are interest

Re: [EVDL] Seeking Advice: Reusing the battery modules from a Nissan Leaf

2015-03-30 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I was searching YouTube and found a new video where a guy disassembled a leaf pack. (He posted it only a week ago, which is why I hadn't found it before.). Good info for anybody looking to do the same: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0dDHJKzX78 J

Re: [EVDL] Seeking Advice: Reusing the battery modules from a Nissan Leaf

2015-03-31 Thread Jay Summet via EV
> > You can purchase them NEW instead of use. > > Roland I am aware that I can purchase blocks of cells (from Hybrid Auto Center, and others) which may be new, or old/unused stock, or pulled from salvage depending upon source. I chose to buy a Salvage pack for cost savings purposes. 48 mo

Re: [EVDL] Seeking Advice: Reusing the battery modules from a Nissan Leaf

2015-03-31 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 03/31/2015 09:12 AM, via EV wrote: Anyone know what the maximum discharge rate is for the Nissan Leaf batteries? No hard facts, but here are my estimates: The Nissan leaf battery is made up of 48 modules, each providing 7-8.2 volts at 60Ah, for a total of 390-400 volt max @ 60Ah or ~24 k

[EVDL] Anybody want a leaf drive-train minus the battery? $1, 500 OBO + delivery costs from Atlanta

2015-04-01 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I was able to boot up the leaf and get it moving around under it's own power. (with wheel dollies under the rear wheels). Video here: http://www.summet.com/blog/2015/03/31/its-alive/ So the entire drive-train up front is in working order. (charger, inverter, motor, gearbox, steering, all compu

[EVDL] Removing a Nissan Leaf battery without an auto lift

2015-04-04 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I was able to remove the Nissan Leaf battery using just jackstands and 3 jacks on a concrete pad without too much pain and anguish. Writeup with pictures here: http://www.summet.com/blog/2015/04/04/how-to-drop-a-nissan-leaf-battery-pack-without-an-au

Re: [EVDL] Removing a Nissan Leaf battery without an auto lift

2015-04-06 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Thanks, you had mentioned that they were sealed well before, and you are right! I didn't have an Air Chisel, and it was a REAL CHORE removing it with a hammer and 1&1/2" putty knife! I probably spent 2 hours breaking the seal But I eventually got it open: http://www.summet.com/blog/2015

[EVDL] How to open a 2013 leaf battery pack.

2015-04-17 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've opened the battery from my 2013 leaf and taken everything out of it, photos, writeup and videos are finished: Blog post with writeup and photos: http://www.summet.com/blog/2015/04/17/how-to-open-a-2013-nissan-leaf-battery-pack-and-remove-the-modu

Re: [EVDL] How to open a 2013 leaf battery pack.

2015-04-18 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/18/2015 11:13 PM, Alan Arrison via EV wrote: > Jay, thanks for all the valuable information on procuring and > opening a Leaf battery pack. Look forward to you getting it > installed in your S-10. I'll actually be taking things easy for a whil

Re: [EVDL] Leaf Voltage

2015-04-19 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Absolute max 4.2 volts per cell. (Note that a leaf module is made up of 4 cells (2parallel, 2 series) so 8.4 volts absolute max per module). If you have a per cell BMS, you'll need two per module (one between negative and the sense screw (center) and o

Re: [EVDL] Leaf Voltage

2015-04-19 Thread Jay Summet via EV
: carbon (Graphite) Jay Summet On 04/19/2015 09:11 PM, Michael Ross wrote: > I am curious, do we know the electrode composition for Leaf cells? > > On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Jay Summet via EV > mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org>> wrote: > > Absolute max 4.2 volts per cell.

Re: [EVDL] mini bms cellmods

2015-04-20 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/19/2015 11:51 PM, ken wrote: > The ones I use start Shunting at 3.65 and HVC at 4.00 . > Dimitri from Clean Power Auto recommended against lowering the default settings as it would leave capacity on the table (make it unable to charge to abso

Re: [EVDL] Cmax solar concept.

2015-04-21 Thread Jay Summet via EV
YouTube url: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc2rZC4vSqQ I believe this has been discussed on the list before. Issues I remember: -on 300 watts of power under full sunlight, so needs a solar concentrator carport to give more power. (how much more is not strictly specified, but it looks to

Re: [EVDL] Cmax solar concept.

2015-04-21 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Just re-watched the video...4.3m x 5.3 m canopy area, so 22 sq meters of lenses focusing on the top of the car. Assuming 1kW per square meter, 50% for focusing loss, and 80% loss for solar panel conversion efficiency...(22 * .5 * .2 = 2.2) that gives 2.2 kWh of power (for say 5-6 hours a day)

Re: [EVDL] Supercharging is not the way.

2015-05-14 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have a "low range" S-10 pickup conversion with lead acid batteries. (I limit it to 20 miles a charge with new batteries, and after a year or two the usable range is closer to 15 miles.) It's also relatively inefficient, especially for the stop and g

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hey Buddy, Wanna buy a hot battery-pack cheap? > CL-ad (v)

2015-05-26 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/26/2015 09:09 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > The silver lining is that battery theft could decline as the market > share for fully electric vehicles grows, as the batteries for such > vehicles will most likely be so heavy that it would be imprac

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