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vaged Teslas. I don't know > > > if they are still doing that. > > > > > > Regardless, my main point is Tesla (and others) *could* brick cars or > > > certain functionality. But I don't think they will because of enormous > > > publ

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t; reference: > > > > > > > > > https://electrek.co/2020/02/12/tesla-disables-supercharging-salvaged-vehicles/ > > > where Tesla has disabled supercharging on salvaged Teslas. I don't know > > > if they are still doing that. > > > > > > Regardl

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rea: what modifications are > > >>you > > >>allowed to do and what not ? Different discussion. > > >> > > >>I understand, from the manufacturer's point of view, that they want > > >>and > > >>need to control the software in the c

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On 11 Dec 2022 at 20:32, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > Regardless, my main point is Tesla (and others) *could* brick cars or > certain functionality. But I don't think they will because of enormous > public backlash. You have more confidence in corporations than I do. Who really likes paying

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t; public backlash. > > > > Peri > > > > << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> > > > > -- Original Message -- > > From: "paul dove" > > To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" > > C

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uld* brick cars or > certain functionality. But I don't think they will because of enormous > public backlash. > > Peri > > << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> > > ------ Original Message -- > From: "paul dove" > To:

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;t think they will because of enormous public backlash. Peri << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original Message -- From: "paul dove" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: "Peri Hartman" Sent: 11-Dec-22 11:14:10 Su

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mous > public backlash. > > Peri > > << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> > > -- Original Message ------ > From: "paul dove" > To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" > Cc: "Peri Hartman" > Sent: 11-Dec-22 11:

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Why not both? Sell a very large number of very expensive vehicles with high margin On 12/12/2022 1:32 am, Lee Hart via EV wrote: John Lussmyer via EV wrote: So you are saying that they should first produce a cheaper very low profit margin vehicle - so that they won't have enough cash to grow

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t;Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: "Peri Hartman" Sent: 11-Dec-22 11:14:10 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Goodbye old friend. >How in the world would you know Tesla bricks batteries? Gives some >names and sources of you facts! > > >Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone

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ectric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: "Peri Hartman" Sent: 11-Dec-22 11:14:10 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Goodbye old friend. How in the world would you know Tesla bricks batteries? Gives some names and sources of you facts! Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://more.

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Certainly possible — I remember paying a mere $17k for a first-gen-in-the-US Prius because the thing looked like a Tercel that had been beaten with an ugly stick — but I also fear that at the low end, access issues to reliable charging power in cheaper housing start to create new issues we don’t

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John Lussmyer via EV wrote: On 12/11/2022 9:32 AM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: John Lussmyer via EV wrote: So you are saying that they should first produce a cheaper very low profit margin vehicle - so that they won't have enough cash to grow production at a high rate and be able to product a LOT m

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I think Tesla started off right. Sell a very expensive high performance EV. It let them figure things out on the way and provided good profit margins at low volumes. BUT they did indicate the long goal was affordable EVs and they touched that goal briefly before dropping ‘basic’ models in favor

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> So, why isn't the Nissan Leaf outselling Teslas? Couldn't possibly have anything to do with its appearance, could it? ;-P NOTE! NOTE! NOTE! NOTE! NOTE! NOTE! Due to an overload of spam and other issues, I've decided to deactivate my Juno mail account. All new messages should be directed

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> won't have enough cash to grow production at a high rate and be able to > product [produce] a LOT more vehicles? No, as I said, and you quoted, I get that. I guess I am bemoaning, generally, the direction that vehicle, and apparently all manufacturing is going. I know two people who sold li

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On 12/11/2022 9:32 AM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: John Lussmyer via EV wrote: So you are saying that they should first produce a cheaper very low profit margin vehicle - so that they won't have enough cash to grow production at a high rate and be able to product a LOT more vehicles? Henry Ford di

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John Lussmyer via EV wrote: So you are saying that they should first produce a cheaper very low profit margin vehicle - so that they won't have enough cash to grow production at a high rate and be able to product a LOT more vehicles? Henry Ford did. So did VW. Success can be found by selling

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? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original Message -- From: "John Lussmyer via EV" To: "Mr. Sharkey via EV" Cc: "John Lussmyer" Sent: 11-Dec-22 08:29:19 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Goodbye old friend. On 12/11/2022 8:18 AM, Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote

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On 12/11/2022 8:18 AM, Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote: Oh sure, I get that. Problem is, they came on at first promising affordable transportation. Then the Musk-cult mentality took over, and now they produce high-end vehicles for people with disposable income who don't mind laying it out for somethin

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> why fault them for profiting from their groundbreaking work? Oh sure, I get that. Problem is, they came on at first promising affordable transportation. Then the Musk-cult mentality took over, and now they produce high-end vehicles for people with disposable income who don't mind laying it o

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After something like 7 or 9 price rises in the last year, Teslas are massively overpriced. Tesla now makes the highest profit margin of any US automaker. Interesting way to "change the world," eh? My understanding is that they make the highest number of EV's of all the manufactures (in th

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On 10 Dec 2022 at 19:06, Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote: > Apparently, the listserv hates DreamHost (among others), > which is the SMTP server for my outgoing mail for my domain. Confirmed. And passing strange, because DREAMHOST HOSTS THE LISTSERVER. Support ticket re-opened. > I think Lee and ot

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Actually, I took the time to edit my profile just so I could reply to this topic. Apparently, the listserv hates DreamHost (among others), which is the SMTP server for my outgoing mail for my domain. I think Lee and others have had similar problems. > I don't suppose you can post that on somet

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On Sat 12/10/2022 16:27, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: Getting a Tesla today.   https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid015DNVhN5YNaWoWgNYqTFnyrb1PpWzuozkdbAZADwH5cRubkQN5qYssmFF985haFNl&id=1274199338&sfnsn=mo&mibextid=6aamW6 Lawrence Rhodes I don't suppose you can post that on somet