On 10 Dec 2022 at 19:06, Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote:

> Apparently, the listserv hates DreamHost (among others), 
> which is the SMTP server for my outgoing mail for my domain. 

Confirmed.  And passing strange, because DREAMHOST HOSTS THE LISTSERVER. 

Support ticket re-opened.

> I think Lee and others have had similar problems. 

For a while Earthlink users, Lee included, couldn't get to the list.  I put 
in a lot of time with DH support and they swore that the Earthlink messages 
just weren't getting to their servers, and it must be Earthlink's fault.  In 
fact the problem started right after Earthlink started using *outgoing* spam 
filters, presumably because they don't trust their own users to not send 
spam.  Apparently outgoing filtering is all the rage now.

We also had massive problems with Gmail in the spring.  Not surprisingly, 
Gmail ignored my support requests.  After a couple of months, though, the 
problem seemed to resolve itself.

Like many other services on the net, these days email is so damned secure 
that nobody can get through the filters, including legit users.

> I'd really prefer a tour of a sewer to being subjected to Facecrook, 
> but then the subject matter suggested wouldn't be enough to make me 
> bother clicking Mother Theresa's web site, either.

:-)

> Since then, each time I see one of those Teslamobiles, I give out a 
> long, faux yawn: "Oh sooo boring". The damned things are like 
> sparrows or starlings anymore, so many as to be non-special. How many 
> people get excited when they see a new Buick (Subuaru, Honda, BMW, etc)?

Well, not so much here in the bland vanilla Midwest, where Ford F150s and 
Chevy Silveradi still reign supreme.

But isn't that sort of what we've all been hoping for for decades - that EVs 
would become mainstream and common?

As far as Teslas, there are lots of other EV choices now, thank goodness, 
especially outside the USA.  Many of them are much more affordable.  

After something like 7 or 9 price rises in the last year, Teslas are 
massively overpriced.  Tesla now makes the highest profit margin of any US 
automaker.  Interesting way to "change the world," eh?

David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey

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