Now that Tesla is after that sweet federal stimulus money for charging providers, they are suddenly walking back the "we disabled it for safety" excuse. To qualify for federal money, they have to accept ALL EVs with CCS. If they discriminate, they could be denied funds.
On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 4:15 PM paul dove via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > That is not bricking a car! It will charge just not on. Supercharger. This > is to protect superchargers from burning down not to prevent repairs. Like > it or not they own the superchargers. > > > Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, December 11, 2022, 2:32 PM, Peri Hartman via EV < > ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > Paul, I may have overstated my claim. But here's a partially relevant > reference: > > https://electrek.co/2020/02/12/tesla-disables-supercharging-salvaged-vehicles/ > where Tesla has disabled supercharging on salvaged Teslas. I don't know > if they are still doing that. > > Regardless, my main point is Tesla (and others) *could* brick cars or > certain functionality. But I don't think they will because of enormous > public backlash. > > Peri > > << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "paul dove" <dov...@bellsouth.net> > To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org> > Cc: "Peri Hartman" <pe...@kotatko.com> > Sent: 11-Dec-22 11:14:10 > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Goodbye old friend. > > >How in the world would you know Tesla bricks batteries? Gives some > >names and sources of you facts! > > > > > >Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone > ><https://more.att.com/currently/imap> > > > >On Sunday, December 11, 2022, 10:53 AM, Peri Hartman via EV > ><ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > > >>There's lots of malaise Tesla - and all the manufacturers, for that > >>matter - could impose. For example, certain sensors could "stop > >>working" > >>after some particular time. Or, the right rear door lock could stop > >>functioning properly. In the worst case, they could brick the car. It > >>may be difficult to determine whether such problems are caused by a > >>software disabling action or if something actually failed. However, I > >>am > >>not too concerned. If a manufacturer actually imposed such behaviors, > >>and were caught, they would be heavily punished. And, that would be > >>regardless of what the fine print in the purchase agreement said. > >> > >>I am aware that Tesla has bricked cars, or at least batteries put into > >>non Tesla cars. It does get into a grey area: what modifications are > >>you > >>allowed to do and what not ? Different discussion. > >> > >>I understand, from the manufacturer's point of view, that they want > >>and > >>need to control the software in the car. For the most part, I think > >>that's an advantage to all of us. The problem is, we have to trust > >>them > >>to not do anything to break functionality in the future. Time will > >>tell, > >>I guess. > >> > >>Peri > >> > >><< Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> > >> > >>------ Original Message ------ > >>From: "John Lussmyer via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> > >>To: "Mr. Sharkey via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> > >>Cc: "John Lussmyer" <cou...@casadelgato.com> > >>Sent: 11-Dec-22 08:29:19 > >>Subject: Re: [EVDL] Goodbye old friend. > >> > >> >On 12/11/2022 8:18 AM, Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote: > >> >>Oh sure, I get that. Problem is, they came on at first promising > >>affordable transportation. Then the Musk-cult mentality took over, and > >>now they produce high-end vehicles for people with disposable income > >>who don't mind laying it out for something most of the rest of us > >>can't -or won't- afford. > >> >So you are saying that they should first produce a cheaper very low > >>profit margin vehicle - so that they won't have enough cash to grow > >>production at a high rate and be able to product a LOT more vehicles? > >> >_______________________________________________ > >> >Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > >> >No other addresses in TO and CC fields > >> >HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > >> > > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > >>No other addresses in TO and CC fields > >>HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20221211/70e6b8bf/attachment.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20221211/2f5066a5/attachment.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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