> I offer to take over maintainership of Org.
-1 too (or -infinity, if allowed, as previously suggested).
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I wrote the exporters and contribute to Emacs just because I feel
decades (or couple of decades) down the road when Carstens, Bastiens,
Nicolas, Erics and all others fade in to irrelevance and obscurity,
Emacs and by extension Orgmode will continue to be used by some
enterprising student in one of
Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and
what in fact did happen. You don't know how to make a good report? See
http://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback
Your bug report will be posted to the Org-mode mailing list.
-
"Allen S. Rout" writes:
> On 02/13/2013 03:45 PM, John Wiegley wrote:
>
>> I didn't even realize Bastien was looking for a replacement.
>
>
> There's no technical reason someone interested in making an offer should
> necessarily wait for a declared vacancy. It seems a straightforward
> move of
Hi Tassilo,
Tassilo Horn wrote:
> Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and
> what in fact did happen. You don't know how to make a good report? See
>
> http://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback
>
> Your bug report will be posted to the Org-mode mailing l
Hi Greg,
Daimrod writes:
> Here is a better formatted patch:
I applied this change, thanks a lot!
--
Bastien
Hi Greg,
Daimrod writes:
> I think I haven't been clear, I would like to have write access to the
> upstream repository to merge my changes
Great -- please send me your public key.
> but I will also keep my github
> version as a "bleeding edge" version to make it easier to test and
> propose c
Hi Jonathan,
Jonathan Leech-Pepin writes:
> Either there's some
> underlying reason for your apparent dislike for Bastien and his
> approach to maintaining
> Org, or some argument in the past that I am not aware of.
For the sake of clarity (and history), here is how I understand why
Jambunatha
Hi James,
James Harkins writes:
> I can, in about a week. I'm traveling, without my laptop (first time
> in years I've left it at home - phone and tablet only for this
> trip).
FYI I applied the patch to the maint branch, so you can simply test it
from there. Let me know, thanks,
--
Bastien
Samuel Wales writes:
> some people should not be on a mailing list, much less play a critical
> role. This is such a case.
Do you have the, lock do you? Otherwise, you are at the mercy of who
hold the lock and the keys.
> Samuel Wales
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On 14/02/13 07:45, Jambunathan K wrote:
>
> (Discussion is meta. So bear with my amateurish excursions.)
>
> Some times the best question to ask is NOT "What I stand to gain?" but "What
> I/We stand to
> lose?". Are the overheads worth it in the l
"Sebastien Vauban"
writes:
>> Everything is completely expanded after the initial startup.
>
> It's an optimization done by Bastien. There is a variable to inhibit
> it.
Ah, ok. I'm not a big fan of optimizations that break correctness, and
the current behavior is simply wrong wrt. the docs of
Hi Steve,
"Steve Prud'Homme" writes:
> 24.2.1 (i686-pc-cygwin)
Please help us more by sharing more information.
I assume Org is 7.8.11 but we would need to know more
about the document you tried to export.
If you haven't, reading the section in the manual on
how to report bugs is useful too!
"Sebastien Vauban"
writes:
>> But then org-agenda-to-appt will be called each time your generate
>> a new agenda... not sure you really want this right.
>>
>> Why not simply calling it interactively when you need it?
>
> I can't count on myself to do it at a regular enough interval (at least
> da
Bastien writes:
> Dear all,
>
> Jambunathan (like anyone) is free to fork the code, to build
> a community around his fork and to submit his changes to Emacs.
> He has commit access to Emacs, so that should even make things
> easier for him.
>
> This is free software, and the ability to fork is w
Hi all,
we already try to use [FR], [BUG] and [PATCH] for feature
requests, bugs and patches, and [BABEL] for Babel related
questions.
I suggest to use [HTML], [LaTeX], [TEXI]... when the email
is about one of the exporters.
I'm fine with either [FR,HTML] or [FR] [HTML] -- the whole
point is to
Jambunathan K writes:
> Aha! You are not forced to fill people's Inboxes.
^^^
now
Hi Tassilo,
Tassilo Horn writes:
> Ah, ok. I'm not a big fan of optimizations that break correctness, and
> the current behavior is simply wrong wrt. the docs of
> `org-startup-folded' and the #+STARTUP property.
I just updated the docstring of org-startup-folded and mentioned
`org-agenda-inhi
Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and
what in fact did happen. You don't know how to make a good report? See
http://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback
Your bug report will be posted to the Org-mode mailing list.
-
> Yes - we want to know - tell us and don't talk in riddles.
I offer no ready-made solutions. Riddles need work, true.
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On 14/02/13 10:50, Jambunathan K wrote:
>
>> Yes - we want to know - tell us and don't talk in riddles.
>
> I offer no ready-made solutions. Riddles need work, true.
>
My last question:
Solutions for what?
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This is a list to discussion Org-mode.
To discuss moral aspects of using or contributing to Emacs,
please use news:alt.religion.emacs
Who knows, you might also end up quoted in emacs/etc/DEVEL.HUMOR,
which is my own personal Graal.
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Bastien
Hi Thorsten,
Thorsten Jolitz writes:
> Some enlightment is welcome.
Can't really help here... as I lost track of the exact problem
you are trying to solve :)
--
Bastien
Tassilo Horn writes:
> Since recently, after starting up emacs and bringing up an org agenda
> which loads all my agenda files into buffers as a side-effect, all
> entries in all files are fully expanded, although org-startup-folded
> is set to t.
>
> I've tried adding a
>
> #+STARTUP: fold
>
>
Bastien writes:
> This is a list to discussion Org-mode.
You can lock me out. You hold the keys, right.
> To discuss moral aspects of using or contributing to Emacs,
> please use news:alt.religion.emacs
>
> Who knows, you might also end up quoted in emacs/etc/DEVEL.HUMOR,
> which is my own per
Jambunathan K writes:
> Bastien writes:
>
>> This is a list to discussion Org-mode.
>
> You can lock me out. You hold the keys, right.
Well, we don't have a habit of kicking people out for their
first few off-topic posts. I'm confident you will not flood
the list with OT posts.
--
Bastien
Jambunathan K writes:
> Bastien writes:
>
>> Dear all,
>> Jambunathan (like anyone) is free to fork the code, to build a
>> community around his fork and to submit his changes to Emacs. He
>> has commit access to Emacs, so that should even make things easier
>> for him.
>> This is free software
Hi Tassilo,
Tassilo Horn writes:
> So the problem seems to be that only if an agenda file is opened during
> execution of `org-agenda-list', it's expanded completely. Else,
> `org-startup-folded' works correctly.
Exactly -- hence this commit:
http://orgmode.org/cgit.cgi/org-mode.git/commit/?i
Bastien writes:
Hi Bastien,
>> Ah, ok. I'm not a big fan of optimizations that break correctness,
>> and the current behavior is simply wrong wrt. the docs of
>> `org-startup-folded' and the #+STARTUP property.
>
> I just updated the docstring of org-startup-folded and mentioned
> `org-agenda-i
Thanks for reporting this and for the patch.
I've applied a different patch, which appends attributes to the
default ones, which is what most users expect IMHO.
Best,
--
Bastien
Bastien writes:
> Actually, one of the reasons I want to step down in the long run is
> that I'm a bit frustrated of not having time enough to focus on big
> new features.
You are a student of philosophy, aren't you? Where you put your efforts
is where your allegiances lie. The rest all is m
Hi Tassilo,
Tassilo Horn writes:
> I have seven agenda files, all not too big (~10K on average), and I use
> an averagely performant computer (5 years old dual core laptop). For
> me, the difference between `org-agenda-inhibit-startup' set to t or nil
> is not noticable at all. In both cases,
Bastien writes:
Hi Bastien,
>> So the problem seems to be that only if an agenda file is opened
>> during execution of `org-agenda-list', it's expanded completely.
>> Else, `org-startup-folded' works correctly.
>
> Exactly -- hence this commit:
>
> http://orgmode.org/cgit.cgi/org-mode.git/commit
Hi Tassilo,
Tassilo Horn wrote:
> "Sebastien Vauban" writes:
>
>>> But then org-agenda-to-appt will be called each time your generate a new
>>> agenda... not sure you really want this right.
>>>
>>> Why not simply calling it interactively when you need it?
>>
>> I can't count on myself to do it at
Bastien writes:
> Jambunathan K writes:
>
>> Bastien writes:
>>
>>> This is a list to discussion Org-mode.
>>
>> You can lock me out. You hold the keys, right.
>
> Well, we don't have a habit of kicking people out for their
> first few off-topic posts. I'm confident you will not flood
> the l
Glyn Millington writes:
> Jambunathan K writes:
>
>> Bastien writes:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>> Jambunathan (like anyone) is free to fork the code, to build a
>>> community around his fork and to submit his changes to Emacs. He
>>> has commit access to Emacs, so that should even make things easier
>
François Pinard writes:
> Jambunathan K writes:
>
>> I offer to take over maintainership of Org.
>
> -1
>
> François
>
> P.S. I love the Org project, and I strongly hope it stay lovable. The
> human qualities of a maintainer, and the crowd surrounding him/her, are
> very important to me. In th
For the sake of record, I will Footnote what Bastien wrote. There will
be lots of Footnotes, not one or two. But I wouldn't alter the article.
Bastien writes:
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> Jonathan Leech-Pepin writes:
>
>> Either there's some
>> underlying reason for your apparent dislike for Bastien
Jambunathan K writes:
> I offer to take over maintainership of Org.
What's your point ? Trolling ? If not, why do you ask questions in a way
that will upset people ? I think it's ok to focus on the code, and focus
on what will make the software better and more efficient for as many
people as pos
Bastien writes:
>> I have seven agenda files, all not too big (~10K on average), and I
>> use an averagely performant computer (5 years old dual core laptop).
>> For me, the difference between `org-agenda-inhibit-startup' set to t
>> or nil is not noticable at all. In both cases, it's less than
"Nicolas Richard" writes:
> but you cannot make an unrealistic offer (don't tell
> me you had not foreseen the many negative responses) and then just
> somehow say "Too bad for you, I offered to save your souls and you
> refused it."
Well, I just did. How can you openly refuse to believe what j
Another question: Why are people Jambu-bashing and Bastien-hugging when
I have clearly said that Nicolas Goaziou's work has not been duly
recognized. People are selective about what they want to see or hear.
--
What Free Software needs is contributors and a good outlet. For
Orgmode, the latter problem is solved because Emacs serves as a good and
well-known and well-respected clearing house.
Recruit more contributors. Get out of the way of existing
contributors. Ignore, just plain ignore the riffraff.
> >> Note: Anger is futile, particularly over the internet.
> >
> > Sure it is ; but you do look angry.
>
> You should come see me in my apartment, as I type these words. No one
> is having more fun than I am having right now.
If that is true, if this is "fun" for you, then you shall underst
Hi!
When I set variable org-return-follows-link to true I expect that it
will work on links in tables too (when org-table-editor is on). But
it does not.
Is it wrong behaviour of org-mode?
With best regards,
Vasil
+1 This is great, I wanted to do something but did not know how. I
am going to look at the patch. If you have an interest in explaining
to an interested Noob what you did. I would be grateful.
Best,
Evan
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:17 AM, Bastien wrote:
> Hi Greg,
>
> Daimrod writes:
>
>> He
Hello Nicolas,
It took me quite some time, but I'm at the end of converting a 90 slides
presentation from the old to the new exporter.
In that presentation, there is (just!) one thing which does not work anymore:
the frame subtitles.
Before, I could write:
--8<---cut here---
Karl Voit writes:
> So there does not seem to be anybody who is able to fix this issue.
> Is there at least somebody who can confirm this weird bug?
I tried your snippet, everything fine here with:
Org-mode version 7.9.3e (7.9.3e-1032-g791a8d)
yas, latest git
hth
Memnon
> I called the community riffraffs for a reason. They are in truth
> riffsraffs.
I have two post-graduate degrees, but I cannot code in elisp so I guess I
am among the worthless ones (riffraff: 1. People regarded as disreputable
or worthless. 2. Rubbish; trash.). To be honest, I do not care who
> I have two post-graduate degrees, but I cannot code in elisp so
I am quoting from this article.
I am wondering, people with two-postgraduate degrees and those with
doctoratal and post-doctoral degrees can do better than secretaries.
, http://www.gnu.org/gnu/rms-lisp.html
|
| The editor
I offer to take over maintainership of Org, gcc, and the Linux kernel.
Offer closes in 7 days. Only pre-conditions will be that Org gets
ported to Notepad, gcc to be turned into a llvm front-end and Linus
sodomized to death. All that under my supervision.
Principals and idiots can PM me with y
On 02/14/2013 10:36 AM, Jose E. Marchesi wrote:
>
> Note: Fear leads to anger; anger leads to hate; hate leads to the dark
> side.
>
Hate leads to suffering. Get it right.
Was that a shark we just jumped over?
On 02/13/2013 04:31 PM, Allen S. Rout wrote:
>
> It would probably be most peaceful
Bastien writes:
> Actually, one of the reasons I want to step down in the long run is
> that I'm a bit frustrated of not having time enough to focus on big
> new features. But the flow of new users and new contributors is
> rewarding enough so that maintaining Org keeps being fun :)
A good main
Jambunathan K writes:
> I never remember being rude to you.
I do not remember you've ever been rude with me. It's not personal.
It's just that I would like Org to return to its peaceful and happy
road. You announced in some earlier message that you were unsubscribing
from the list. Another a
Hello Tom,
On 13 February 2013 11:31, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
> Aloha all,
>
> Currently, the texinfo exporter translates a dedicated target in a comment:
>
> # <>
>
> to this:
>
> @c <>
>
> It shouldn't need to be within a comment to work successfully in the
Texinfo exporter.
@anchor{} is not visi
Evan Misshula writes:
> +1 This is great, I wanted to do something but did not know how. I
> am going to look at the patch.
I'm glad to know other people like it too :)
> If you have an interest in explaining to an interested Noob what you
> did. I would be grateful.
Sure,
I knew I wanted s
Hi Jon,
Jonathan Leech-Pepin writes:
> Hello Tom,
>
> On 13 February 2013 11:31, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
>
>> Aloha all,
>>
>> Currently, the texinfo exporter translates a dedicated target in a comment:
>>
>> # <>
>>
>> to this:
>>
>> @c <>
>>
>> It shouldn't need to be within a comment to work su
Hi Tom,
On 14 February 2013 12:02, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
> Hi Jon,
>
> Jonathan Leech-Pepin writes:
>
> [...]
>
> Thanks. I've moved the anchors outside comments and all is well. In
> fact, the entire manual now exports texinfo that makeinfo compiles
> without any complaints.
>
>
That's great.
Hello Tom
On 13 February 2013 14:58, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
> Aloha all,
>
> When the H: option is set to a number > 4, the texinfo exporter
> generates a detailed node listing with links to nodes that texinfo
> doesn't recognize. IIUC, texinfo recognizes nodes for chapter, section,
> subsection,
Hi,
the new exporter currently does not respect `org-export-babel-evaluate' and
evaluates babel src blocks always on export. I did the tiniest change to ox.el
as in the attached patch.
(This is my first patch sent - I hope it works and helps...).
Best regards, Gregor
>From a955c54f3ecda02b70
Hello Org-Mode team,
I wrote myself a small bash script that uses dmenu and emacsclient
to get notes into Org-Mode via org-protocol-capture. I've set up
some capture templates that fill in the provided information and
configured them to immediate finish without further interaction.
Most of the ti
Alan Schmitt writes:
> Hi Eric,
>
> Eric Schulte writes:
>
>>> The suggestion: instead of appending '"org-babel-ocaml-eoe";;' to the
>>> code, how simply put ';;' (which will make sure everything is flushed)
>>> then detect the toplevel is done by seeing the string '# ' at the
>>> beginning of th
Hi Sébastien,
"Sebastien Vauban"
writes:
> The conclusion is: just a comment, no real error. Closed!
IIUC, and to make sure everyone understands: HTML Tidy doesn't
distinguish between
Some text
and
Some text
and suggests that there may be a duplicate tag.
--
Bastien
"Sebastien Vauban"
writes:
> Hello Nicolas,
>
> It took me quite some time, but I'm at the end of converting a 90 slides
> presentation from the old to the new exporter.
>
> In that presentation, there is (just!) one thing which does not work anymore:
> the frame subtitles.
>
> Before, I could
Hi Tassilo,
"Sebastien Vauban"
writes:
> It's an optimization done by Bastien.
I think it's fine to have this by default, the time spared is worth
it IMHO. But I understand many people may want to turn this off.
> There is a variable to inhibit it.
(setq org-agenda-inhibit-startup nil)
I
Hi Gregor,
This patch looks good to me, but I'll leave the actual application of
anything dealing with the new export engine to Nicolas.
Thanks for contributing!
Gregor Kappler writes:
> Hi,
>
> the new exporter currently does not respect
> org-export-babel-evaluate' and evaluates babel src bl
Dear Jose E Marchesi
I am happy to hear of your endeavors. I am publicly messaging you in my
capacity as a well-known and well-recognized idiot [1].
I am myself running an experiment very similar to yours, albeit on a
smaller scale.
The tasks you have taken upon yourself seem to be big, but re
Hello,
Eric Abrahamsen writes:
> Is there any way to use the new exporter mechanisms to emulate table
> cells that span rows or columns on export? I'm envisioning something
> like this:
>
> | | <2col>Grains | |
> | Year | Oats | Wheat |
> | 2007 | 10lbs | 40lbs |
>
>
Hi Nicolas,
thanks for your replies. I can see that for org syntax stability and to
prevent parsing hassle using a variety of characters for emphasis is not
desireable. On the other hand, org-emphasis-alist had several advantages that
seem not possible with your suggestions.
When writing, I
"Sebastien Vauban"
writes:
> Bastien wrote:
>> "Sebastien Vauban" writes:
>>
>>> However, I've left it in the `org-finalize-agenda-hook' hook, so that the
>>> `appt-list' is fed up as soon as I begin using agenda functions.
>>
>> But then org-agenda-to-appt will be called each time your generate
>
Hello,
Gregor Kappler writes:
> the new exporter currently does not respect `org-export-babel-evaluate' and
> evaluates babel src blocks always on export. I did the tiniest change to
> ox.el as in the attached patch.
> (This is my first patch sent - I hope it works and helps...).
Applied. T
Hi Jon,
Jonathan Leech-Pepin writes:
> Hi Tom,
>
> On 14 February 2013 12:02, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
>
>> Hi Jon,
>>
>> Jonathan Leech-Pepin writes:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> Thanks. I've moved the anchors outside comments and all is well. In
>> fact, the entire manual now exports texinfo that makeinfo
Bastien writes:
Hi Bastien,
>> It's an optimization done by Bastien.
>
> I think it's fine to have this by default, the time spared is worth it
> IMHO. But I understand many people may want to turn this off.
>
>> There is a variable to inhibit it.
>
> (setq org-agenda-inhibit-startup nil)
>
> I
* contrib/lisp/org-contacts.el: Use `org-agenda-prefix-format' to
format entry instead of unused org-agenda-format.
Signed-off-by: Rüdiger Sonderfeld
---
contrib/lisp/org-contacts.el | 6 +++---
1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
diff --git a/contrib/lisp/org-contacts.el b/contri
Hello,
org-bibtex.el contains a reference to longlines-mode, which is obsolete
in emacs trunk since Dec. 4. When the function was made obsolete, the
version of org distributed with emacs was changed to use
visual-line-mode (the successor to longlines-mode).
But it seems that this change hasn’t m
Hi Memnon,
Memnon Anon wrote:
> "Sebastien Vauban" writes:
>> Bastien wrote:
>>> "Sebastien Vauban" writes:
>>>
However, I've left it in the `org-finalize-agenda-hook' hook, so that the
`appt-list' is fed up as soon as I begin using agenda functions.
>>>
>>> But then org-agenda-to-appt w
Rüdiger Sonderfeld writes:
> * contrib/lisp/org-contacts.el: Use `org-agenda-prefix-format' to
> format entry instead of unused org-agenda-format.
>
> Signed-off-by: Rüdiger Sonderfeld
> ---
> contrib/lisp/org-contacts.el | 6 +++---
> 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>
> diff
Hi everyone,
may I suggest that we dry up this thread and the related threads? It seems to
me that what needed to be said has been said and we should stop providing an
arena for a monologue that has become full OT by now.
- Carsten
Hi org-mode users,
I know in a source code block, C-c ' will launch a buffer to edit the
source code and C-c ' again will install the buffer back to the code block.
Sometimes I just want to abort all the changes, so I am wondering: Is there
anyway to exit the buffer without installing the changes
Not To Miss writes:
> Hi org-mode users,
>
> I know in a source code block, C-c ' will launch a buffer to edit the
> source code and C-c ' again will install the buffer back to the code block.
> Sometimes I just want to abort all the changes, so I am wondering: Is there
> anyway to exit the buffe
Working with an agenda file, off the rack daily agenda.
org-agenda-entry-text-maxlines = 5
All nodes are TODO nodes
When I hit E or v E, I see the first few lines of the node
When I export using C-x C-w, all I get in the export file is the
headlines, not the additional context
Even a highlight/cut/
Hi,
I think the new code to handle split links has broken links that aren't
split.
Here is an ECM:
* Headline to split
[[Headline
to split]]
[[Headline to split]], not!
* Editing setup
#+name: setup-editing
#+header: :results silent
#+header: :eval no-export
#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(require '
Nicolas Goaziou writes:
> Hello,
>
> Eric Abrahamsen writes:
>
>> Is there any way to use the new exporter mechanisms to emulate table
>> cells that span rows or columns on export? I'm envisioning something
>> like this:
>>
>> | | <2col>Grains | |
>> | Year | Oats | Wheat |
Carsten
I opened this thread and I will have the last word.
I *guarantee* you, I would have taken up the maintainership. I seem to
be a lone dissenting voice which also wanted to *take up* responsibility
in a substantial manner at a throwaway price.
I had every right to make the restrictions
Jambunathan K writes:
> Jonathan was the lone saving grace and I should applaud him for
> balanced-ness he has shown.
Also Nicolas Richard.
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