Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot error wuth MySQL

2013-03-16 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2013-03-14 at 11:32 +0100, Robert Schetterer wrote: > Am 14.03.2013 09:28, schrieb Cesar: > > dovecot: auth: Error: mysql: Query failed, retrying: MySQL server has gone > > away: 125 Time(s)(125 Times Wow)For example part of maillog show me:About > > MySQL auth failed:Mar 10 03:55:05 ga

Re: [Dovecot] Question regarding Postfix and Dovecot

2013-03-16 Thread Noel Butler
On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 15:33 +0100, mourik jan heupink wrote: > destination_recipient_limit Not sure what happened there but evolution did not like all the chars in your post when invoking reply... probably time to update this darn thing, its the last ubuntu POS that hasn't been updated to opensu

Re: [Dovecot] Question regarding Postfix and Dovecot

2013-03-17 Thread Noel Butler
On Sun, 2013-03-17 at 10:20 +, Daniel Reinhardt wrote: > I really find the lack of error logging, and the virtual lack of > documentation for Dovecot very disturbing. I am so close to dropping this > side project of being able to support multiple domains on a mail server. I know I came in l

Re: [Dovecot] Question regarding Postfix and Dovecot

2013-03-17 Thread Noel Butler
On Sun, 2013-03-17 at 03:25 -0700, Professa Dementia wrote: > > And just a friendly word of advice: change your attitude or you will > find your cries fall on deaf ears. > > Dem > and that shit is helpful how? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [Dovecot] Question regarding Postfix and Dovecot

2013-03-17 Thread Noel Butler
On Sun, 2013-03-17 at 09:13 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 3/17/2013 5:25 AM, Professa Dementia wrote: > > > We are very sorry you are not satisfied with the software. Please feel > > free to return the software for a full refund of all the money you paid. > > You do not speak on behalf of Do

Re: [Dovecot] Question regarding Postfix and Dovecot

2013-03-17 Thread Noel Butler
On Sun, 2013-03-17 at 21:30 -0700, David Benfell wrote: > > The standard response is also borne of frustration--a frustration that > seemingly expects people to worship the ground that developers walk on. > One thing that shows a good developer, is one who listens, to the negatives as well as

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot 2 in ubuntu 12.04 or Debian Squeeze

2013-03-18 Thread Noel Butler
On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 22:56 -0700, pvsuja wrote: > Mar 19 09:33:16 mailspace dovecot: imap(suja): Invalid certificate: self > signed certificate in certificate chain: /C=IN/ST=Karnataka/O=xxx/OU=YYY > CA/CN=mailserver.domain.com/emailAddress=sys...@domain.com > Mar 19 09:33:16 mailspace dovecot:

Re: [Dovecot] Reduce logging auth-worker

2013-03-23 Thread Noel Butler
On Sat, 2013-03-23 at 03:28 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > maybe you should explain why not using syslog as > everybody else Why do you think you speak for everybody else? Because you sure as hell don't, so stop pretending to. WTF is in the air this week, it seems to contain a few self proclai

Re: [Dovecot] Reduce logging auth-worker

2013-03-24 Thread Noel Butler
On Sat, 2013-03-23 at 10:57 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > _deleted usual drivell_ > > Anyone who knows anything about syslog on large production servers knows > > avoiding it is best practice, it's also about the only thing DJB and I > > ever agreed on > > blablablanla > > in large environm

Re: [Dovecot] Please help to make decision

2013-03-24 Thread Noel Butler
On Sun, 2013-03-24 at 20:12 +0400, Tigran Petrosyan wrote: > Hi > We are going to implement the "Dovecot" for 1 million users. We are going > to use more than 100T storage space. Now we examine 2 solutions NFS or GFS2 > via (Fibre Channel storage). > Can someone help to make decision? What kind of

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot service not responding after about a week of uptime

2013-03-24 Thread Noel Butler
On Sun, 2013-03-24 at 21:22 +0100, Matthieu wrote: > >> Mar 24 19:13:21 hebus dovecot: master: Warning: /tmp is no longer mounted. > >> See http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Mountpoints > >> Mar 24 19:13:21 hebus dovecot: master: Warning: /var/tmp is no longer > >> mounted. See > >> http://wiki2.dovecot

Re: [Dovecot] Disk Encryption

2013-03-27 Thread Noel Butler
nope On Wed, 2013-03-27 at 07:23 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote: > Did anyone else get 13 identical copies of this response from Daniel??? > > On 2013-03-27 12:47 AM, Daniel Reinhardt wrote: > > If you are concerned about data being left on a hard drive when it fails > > and you are returning it t

Re: [Dovecot] maildirsize problem

2013-04-03 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 02:27 +, mastertoi...@netzero.net wrote: > passdb { > driver = pam > } > > i am still not sure why maildirsize is not updating.thanks > ___ Because dovecot (dovecot-lda) is not delivering the mails to the maildir, postfix is. signature.asc Description:

Re: [Dovecot] client limit and STARTTLS

2013-04-05 Thread Noel Butler
Hi David, On Fri, 2013-04-05 at 13:05 -0700, David Benfell wrote: > doveconf: Warning: service auth { client_limit=256 } is lower than > required under max. load (3072) > doveconf: Warning: service anvil { client_limit=256 } is lower than > required under max. load (2051) > service auth { >

Re: [Dovecot] password encryption

2013-04-06 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2013-04-05 at 23:36 -0700, Jim Pazarena wrote: > I have just come to the realization that password encryption using the > crypt function in linux, ONLY USES THE FIRST 8 CHARS. I have written > routines using crypt allowing 16+ chars, and find that anything past 8 > is ignored. Wow. >

Re: [Dovecot] MOSTLY SOLVED: Re: client limit and STARTTLS

2013-04-08 Thread Noel Butler
On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 01:09 -0700, David Benfell wrote: > > Are your certificate chains valid? Simply saying "isn't working" is > > almost a requirement for a *sigh* > > log output please, or a better description than "isn't working" ;) > Yes, the certificate chains were screwed up. And you

Re: [Dovecot] A dovecot book ?

2010-03-03 Thread Noel Butler
There is only one authoritative source who should be writing it if a book is to be written and we all know who that author should be. But for what version, as 1.x is in wide usage and will be for a long time, 2.0 is almost upon us, much of 1.x is not applicable to 2.x , so should Timo be writing 2

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-04 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 22:43 +0100, Marcus Rueckert wrote: > On 2010-03-04 22:59:59 +0200, Timo Sirainen wrote: > > Do you think I'd break a lot of people's filters if I removed the > > prefix? :) Anyone strongly for/against removing it? It seems kind of > > annoying to me whenever I happen to thin

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-05 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 03:57 -0500, Charles Marcus wrote: > On 3/5/2010 1:17 AM, Noel Butler wrote: > > of the myriad of lists im' on and have been on for many many years, > > only nanog and bind lists dont use tags. > > postfix doesn't, and I know you're on

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-05 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 05:57 -0500, Charles Marcus wrote: > On 2010-03-05 5:28 AM, Noel Butler wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 03:57 -0500, Charles Marcus wrote: > >> On 3/5/2010 1:17 AM, Noel Butler wrote: > >>> of the myriad of lists im' on and have been on fo

Re: [Dovecot] I stream read - stale NFS file handle

2010-03-15 Thread Noel Butler
perhaps supply a bit more information? like the output from dovecot -n On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 18:29 -0400, Joe wrote: > Hi, > > I am running dovecot/postfix/amavisd within a jail on freebsd. I have a > nullfs mounted within the jail that links back to an NFS server. > > I am constantly getting

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot user

2010-03-26 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2010-03-25 at 21:50 -0700, Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: > On Mar 25, 2010, at 9:48 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > > Timo Sirainen put forth on 3/25/2010 1:30 PM: > >> I think the next v2.0 release (rc1?) will include the new changed > >> default_login_user. I'm still not completely sure what i

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot user

2010-03-26 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 15:32 +0100, Marco Nenciarini wrote: > Timo Sirainen ha scritto: > > On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 20:01 +1000, Noel Butler wrote: > >>>>> "dovehole" - you go inside dovecot via a hole, right? > >>>> That is downright pornographi

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot user

2010-03-27 Thread Noel Butler
On Sat, 2010-03-27 at 00:01 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Noel Butler put forth on 3/26/2010 8:12 PM: > > > Nice Marco... > > OK, Timo, we must have a winner here with " dovenull", surely :P > > I fear anything with "null" in it will be confusing

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot upgrade problems

2010-04-07 Thread Noel Butler
Hi, Firstly its clear you did not remove your existing version installed by your OS's package manager. Backup your conf file before doing so. By default most source installs of any software install into /usr/local/ you might also want to consider make uninstall from your existing source build dire

Re: [Dovecot] Virusscanning

2010-04-12 Thread Noel Butler
On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 22:07 +0200, Heiko Schlittermann wrote: > Frank Elsner (Mo 12 Apr 2010 19:18:53 CEST): > > On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:06:34 +0200 Andreas Schulze wrote: > > > Hello list, > > > > > > I use currently a non-dovecot pop3 proxy which has the ability > > > to scan all passing mails

Re: [Dovecot] Virusscanning

2010-04-13 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 11:25 +0200, Sven wrote: > > Noel Butler schrieb: > > On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 22:07 +0200, Heiko Schlittermann wrote: > > > > > >> Frank Elsner (Mo 12 Apr 2010 19:18:53 CEST): > >> > >>> On

Re: [Dovecot] Virusscanning

2010-04-13 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 07:27 -0400, Jerry wrote: > On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:37:04 +1000, Noel Butler > articulated: > > > So, you want postfix to accept the virus, send it to dovecot's > > deliver which then calls a virus scanner and finds it infected and > > dele

Re: [Dovecot] Virusscanning

2010-04-13 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 13:21 +0200, Andreas Schulze wrote: > Am 13.04.2010 20:37 schrieb Noel Butler: > > So, you want postfix to accept the virus, send it to dovecot's deliver > > which then calls a virus scanner and finds it infected and deletes it, > > that makes

Re: [Dovecot] catch-all not working with postfix dovecot lda

2010-04-15 Thread Noel Butler
Postfix must first "know the user(s)" therefore this isa postfix issue and not dovecot dovecot deliver assumes the MTA has verified the user to accept mail from and does not do further authentication On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 01:00 +0200, fakessh wrote: > its tha archive to the cross post to postfi

Re: [Dovecot] catch-all not working with postfix dovecot lda

2010-04-15 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 03:50 +0200, fakessh wrote: > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 01:53:32 +0200, Pascal Volk > wrote: > > On 04/16/2010 01:18 AM fakessh wrote: > >> how to build a catch-all with dovecot lda > >> the question then. is not a postfix issue > > > > Still a Postfix issue. > > Dovecot doesn't

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot SQL user_query

2010-05-03 Thread Noel Butler
On Mon, 2010-05-03 at 16:00 -0700, Alex wrote: > Hello folkz, > Is it possible to setup in dovecot-sql.conf file to run user_query > twice if its first run didn't yield any values. > And likewise don't proceed with the second run if the first user_query > execution produced the result. > I have t

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot deliver LDA problem

2010-05-04 Thread Noel Butler
bugger sent that direct, please send that output to the list :) On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 09:04 +1000, Noel Butler wrote: > Alex, > > Please show the output of dovecot -n > > > On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 15:23 -0700, Alex wrote: > > > Thanks for the hint. > > &g

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot deliver LDA problem

2010-05-04 Thread Noel Butler
Hi, On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 16:14 -0700, Alex wrote: > auth default: > mechanisms: plain digest-md5 cram-md5 > passdb: > driver: sql > args: /etc/mail/dovecot-sql.conf > userdb: > driver: prefetch > userdb: > driver: static > args: uid=51 gid=51 You are using MySQL, so

Re: [Dovecot] log_path and info_log_path - ownership of parent directory

2010-05-06 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 11:02 -0400, Phil Howard wrote: > The Ubuntu package didn't create the directory for these. What > ownership/permissions are needed for it? Does it need to be owned by the > dovecot user? Yes, it needs to be owned by whoever is the user in auth segment, so long as that us

Re: [Dovecot] during change sql password on squirrelmail

2010-05-06 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 22:35 +0300, Yavuz Maşlak wrote: > Hello > > I use squirrelmail1.4.20, compatible2, change_sql plugin, dovecot, postfix, > mysql,virtualuser. > > I can change my email password successfully on squirrelmail. When I change > my password the squirrelmail throw me a page whic

Re: [Dovecot] Thunderbird very slow startup, 1.2.11, mbox, postfix local delivery to /var/mail

2010-05-07 Thread Noel Butler
Try a different client and see if its the same results if so, return with your dovecot -n output Cheers On Fri, 2010-05-07 at 02:56 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Eray Aslan put forth on 5/7/2010 12:44 AM: > > On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 12:02:33AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >> Anyone have any id

Re: [Dovecot] v2.0.beta5 released

2010-05-09 Thread Noel Butler
please keep your childish immature sour grapes dummy spits off this list On Sun, 2010-05-09 at 22:03 +0200, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > You don't really need to wonder that your release cycles 'get longer' > when you do major feature changes to something you consider to be > 'beta' (and not alpha)

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot/deliver ... Can't open log file /var/log/dovecot/error.log: Permission denied

2010-05-11 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 16:17 -0400, Phil Howard wrote: > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 14:38, Bradley Giesbrecht < > bradley.giesbre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 11, 2010, at 11:26 AM, Phil Howard wrote: > > > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:59, Gerard Seibert >> >wrote: > >> > >> Virtual docum

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot/deliver ... Can't open log file /var/log/dovecot/error.log: Permission denied

2010-05-14 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2010-05-14 at 09:05 -0400, Phil Howard wrote: > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 19:25, Noel Butler wrote: > > > > %d is derived from the right hand side of a username, dovecot's deliver > > couldn't care less about verifying the domain, since that is the M

Re: [Dovecot] %d is empty in mail_location

2010-05-14 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2010-05-14 at 14:03 -0400, Phil Howard wrote: > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 14:00, Thomas Leuxner wrote: > > > Am 14.05.2010 um 19:51 schrieb Phil Howard: > > > > > It is the version packaged in Ubuntu 9.10 … > > > > This one is ancient. Also it has configuration syntax changes compared to >

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot/deliver ... Can't open log file /var/log/dovecot/error.log: Permission denied

2010-05-17 Thread Noel Butler
On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 09:28 -0400, Phil Howard wrote: > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 17:48, Noel Butler > wrote: > > > > > MySQL makes it such a dream, even with customers adding > aliases and so > on, its a simple instruction to my

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot/deliver ... Can't open log file /var/log/dovecot/error.log: Permission denied

2010-05-20 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 08:54 -0400, Phil Howard wrote: > > I guess you've been bitten by a proper database solution given > your apprehension for using one. > > It's called experience. I could explain many cases where SQL is > overkill and overhead. But I don't do mail

[Dovecot] OT Re: dovecot/deliver ... Can't open log file /var/log/dovecot/error.log: Permission denied

2010-05-21 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 09:04 -0400, Phil Howard wrote: > > > > The reason we moved from qmail/vpopmail CDB to qmail/vpopmail/mysql was > > for a MASSIVE IMPROVEMENT in performance, then added dovecot in for > > even more performance improvements, I too was hesitant, but a large > > university

Re: [Dovecot] with dovecot deliver amavisd not work

2010-05-26 Thread Noel Butler
HUH? This has nothing to do with dovecot, dovecot gets the message once postfix is done with it. if its not working, ask on postfix list. On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 18:51 +0200, fakessh wrote: > hello all reader > hello list > hello dovecot network > > since I've installed dovecot deliver. e-mails

Re: [Dovecot] auth socket goes away on reload

2010-06-03 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 09:48 -0700, David Jonas wrote: > >> > >> Is there an obvious way around this? I know I could somehow merge the > >> changes into the running sqlite db but that undermines the simplicity of > >> the design I have. Maybe a patch to reopen the db if it's replaced? Or > >> perh

[Dovecot] [OT] Re: Evolution and Thunderbird do different things?

2010-06-09 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 16:10 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote: > On 2010-06-09 2:02 PM, Tom Hendrikx wrote: > > Recalling now, I think this issue triggered me to ditch Evolution after > > 2 days of testing some years ago, and into using the same client > > everywhere. But YMMV... > > Everything I've re

Re: [Dovecot] "failed to store into mailbox 'INBOX': Not enough disk space." with large mail

2010-06-09 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 21:48 +0200, Johannes Dröge wrote: > Hello, > > I am having this error message on some rare emails with more than 6 mb > or so. Neither the dovecot server nor the filesystem where the maildir > resides have any quota or are full at the time of delivering. > > The mails go

Re: [Dovecot] "failed to store into mailbox 'INBOX': Not enough disk space." with large mail

2010-06-09 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 08:28 +1000, Noel Butler wrote: > On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 21:48 +0200, Johannes Dröge wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I am having this error message on some rare emails with more than 6 mb > > or so. Neither the dovecot server nor the filesystem

Re: [Dovecot] "failed to store into mailbox 'INBOX': Not enough disk space." with large mail

2010-06-11 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2010-06-11 at 09:17 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote: > > They're actually pretty reliable... but for me its more the privacy (or > lack thereof) issue that keeps me from using them more... > eh? you have far more risk of privacy invasion from google (by their own admission so they know ho

[Dovecot] OT Re: Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-16 Thread Noel Butler
caution OS war related statements within :) On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 07:29 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote: > We are not in disagreement, we just apparently do things differently. I > prefer the 'rolling release' type of system that always has *everything* > reasonably up to date, and gentoo gives me

Re: [Dovecot] OT Re: Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-16 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 21:49 +1000, Noel Butler wrote: > dovecot in mainstream, but hey, he still prefers sendmail over postfix, > which is fine for system only users, but most of us do a lot more, and > Claus has told me directly they will never support MySQL so we removed Just want t

[Dovecot] OT Re: Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-17 Thread Noel Butler
re-sent , this never made it to the list, my anti spam system ate it :) On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 07:07 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > > That's an interesting position/observation given that RHEL, SLES, and CentOS > (RHEL derivative) have the largest datacenter footprint in the US by far. > Acros

Re: [Dovecot] Error: dict: Leaked a t_pop() call

2010-06-19 Thread Noel Butler
On Sat, 2010-06-19 at 03:31 -0700, Brendan McCollam wrote: > I'm running dovecot 1.0.7 on CentOS 5.5, and I've configured it to work this version is so old it is essentially unsupported > > The response seems to be "nobody keeps their quota in MySQL", but the Lots of people do, us include

Re: [Dovecot] Error: dict: Leaked a t_pop() call

2010-06-19 Thread Noel Butler
On Sat, 2010-06-19 at 09:53 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote: > On 6/19/2010 6:43 AM, Noel Butler wrote: > > don't use postfix admin, > I apparently left out "I" (dont use it), this either way should have been clear by the rest of my paragraph, unless of course you were trolling.

Re: [Dovecot] Error: dict: Leaked a t_pop() call

2010-06-19 Thread Noel Butler
On Sat, 2010-06-19 at 14:05 -0700, Brendan McCollam wrote: > > > that 1.0.7 is a pretty old release, and you don't have much control over > what the distro maintainers choose to package. > This is the biggest problem most people face. But the freedom of the Open Source world to use whats we w

Re: [Dovecot] step-to-step Installation Guide

2010-06-23 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 09:53 +0200, Gerhard Waldemair wrote: > Am 23.06.2010 um 09:47 schrieb Marcus Linnenkohl: > > > Hello, > > > > I'm new here, and I'm from Germany, so please be patient with me because my > > English is not so good ;) > > > > I am searching for a Step-to-Step Guide to firs

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot evaluation on a 30 gb mailbox

2010-06-24 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 16:58 -0700, Daniel L. Miller wrote: > On 6/24/2010 4:23 AM, Timo Sirainen wrote: > >> I'd recommend also installing and configuring imapproxy - it can be > >> beneficial with squirrelmail. > >> > > Do you have any about a real world numbers about installation with and

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot evaluation on a 30 gb mailbox

2010-06-24 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 02:18 +0100, Timo Sirainen wrote: > On 25.6.2010, at 1.37, Noel Butler wrote: > > > If its running on a SOHO, you probably wouldn't even be able to measure > > the difference, but for an ISP/Telco or large institution, you will > > certainly no

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot evaluation on a 30 gb mailbox

2010-06-25 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 13:49 +0100, Timo Sirainen wrote: > On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 14:44 +0200, Amon Ott wrote: > > > For whatever it is worth, we use imapproxy, because it allows us to use > > one-time passwords for webmail users. One login, not many. > > With large enough auth cache, I think tha

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot evaluation on a 30 gb mailbox

2010-06-25 Thread Noel Butler
apologies, I sent this direct to Eric not the list ore OP, my bad :) On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 13:46 -0700, Eric Shubert wrote: > > > now i would also need to edit the dovecot.conf file > > could you guide me on what changes do i need to dovecot.conf file ? > > Others on this list would be mo

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot evaluation on a 30 gb mailbox

2010-06-25 Thread Noel Butler
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 01:02 +0100, Timo Sirainen wrote: > On 26.6.2010, at 0.57, Noel Butler wrote: > > > As I mentioned earlier It doesnt with squirrelmail, I tried it on > > production and the I/O increased a bit, watching logging alone was > > giving me a > > h

Re: [Dovecot] backing up emails

2010-06-28 Thread Noel Butler
On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 14:27 +0800, Angelo Chen wrote: > auth default: > passdb: > driver: pam > userdb: > driver: passwd > You're using system accounts so yes, but I'd hope that if server is on any importance you would be doing more than just backing up that. /home /etc /var/mai

Re: [Dovecot] backing up emails

2010-06-29 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 22:28 +0800, Angelo Chen wrote: > Hi Noel, > > > I use exim4 and it delivers right into ~/.Maildir, so I assume /home contains > all the emails, right? why we need to back up /etc and /var/mail? Thanks, > No real experience with Exim, last time I looked at it was 10 y

Re: [Dovecot] system v. virtual mailboxes, was Re: Thunderbird problem

2010-07-01 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 18:11 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote: > but if they don't virtual users is > just as easy/legitimate as system users with no shell access. I agree, virtual users are not only easier to deal with, it gives you greater flexibility, but most importantly, better security. in the

Re: [Dovecot] system v. virtual mailboxes, was Re: Thunderbird problem

2010-07-01 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 04:01 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Anyone who isn't looking at mail logs or log summaries daily and taking action > on any problems needing attention doesn't count as a mail OP. That's one of the most ridiculous things I've seen todate. Do you seriously expect ISP admins

Re: [Dovecot] system v. virtual mailboxes, was Re: Thunderbird problem

2010-07-01 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 06:14 -0400, Jerry wrote: > I agree. If the system is constructed correctly it certainly does not > need that sort of attention. There is software available that can > monitor the system to a high degree of satisfaction. However, Noel, I > firmly believe that there are OPs (

Re: [Dovecot] system v. virtual mailboxes, was Re: Thunderbird problem

2010-07-01 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 12:12 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > > > Mail Administration is not complicated, all too many people like to over > > complicate their setups and only cause themselves work. > > > > I've had more than one CEO in the past say to me that they like to see > > key NOC staff d

Re: [Dovecot] system v. virtual mailboxes, was Re: Thunderbird problem

2010-07-01 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 18:16 -0400, Charles Sprickman wrote: > On Thu, 1 Jul 2010, Noel Butler wrote: > > > (I wrote a script to convert from vpopmail structure to a better > > structure when we moved from that mess to postfix/dovecot/mysql a few > > years back, that conv

Re: [Dovecot] system v. virtual mailboxes, was Re: Thunderbird problem

2010-07-01 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 21:43 -0700, Frank Cusack wrote: > On 7/1/10 9:59 AM +0200 Steffen Kaiser wrote: > > I do _not_ argue about security here. I really wonder why some distros > > still allow ssh-access by default for every user and some don't. Even a > > virtual-user based setup requires system

Re: [Dovecot] Australian Internet Filtering Position

2010-07-07 Thread Noel Butler
This has NOTHING to do with Dovecot I am an Australian, and are on other appropriate lists for such discussions such as our communist dictatorship ALP govt power tripping, but I'm afraid all you have done here, is SPAM, please do not do this again. On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 09:21 +1000, Ryan Hallowa

Re: [Dovecot] system v. virtual mailboxes, was Re: Thunderbird problem

2010-07-07 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 09:26 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Noel Butler put forth on 7/1/2010 4:46 PM: > > < snipped the juvenile stabs > > > > oh but as a parting shot, with all that mail we get, little spam, scams > > or viruses gets to our users, that says we are

Re: [Dovecot] system v. virtual mailboxes, was Re: Thunderbird problem

2010-07-08 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 08:42 +0200, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: > * Noel Butler : > > *sigh* > > > > are you really this stupid or just trolling ? > > Seriously, I think you should all go offlist with your insults. Stop stealing > other peoples attention with your

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 2.0 progress?

2010-07-21 Thread Noel Butler
It is anticipated to be next week or so, pending bug reports on rc3 On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 12:37 +0100, Guy wrote: > Hi, > > Been having a look at the roadmap on the wiki for Dovecot 2.0 and I was > wondering how that's progressing? Are you able to offer a guesstimate on how > far it is from stab

[Dovecot] OT dovecot w/postfix, mysql , postfix does unnecessary lookups

2010-07-30 Thread Noel Butler
I know this unnecessary lookups question is really a postfix one, but I'm curious if anyone else sees the behaviour of postfix continuing looking up users after it clearly have got its answer that it is "not a local domain" response. (this msg is an extract from what I sent to WV some time ago,

Re: [Dovecot] OT dovecot w/postfix, mysql , postfix does unnecessary lookups

2010-08-03 Thread Noel Butler
:) On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 21:50 +1000, Noel Butler wrote: > I know this unnecessary lookups question is really a postfix one, but > I'm curious if anyone else sees the behaviour of > postfix continuing looking up users after it clearly have got its answer > that it is "not a

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP access to dovecot list archives?

2010-08-04 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 14:48 +0100, Timo Sirainen wrote: > On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 09:38 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote: > > Can you confirm the Server Settings? > > > > Type: IMAP > > Server Name: dovecot.org > > Port: 143 > > Username: anonymous > > Connection Security: None > > Auth method: Password

Re: [Dovecot] Maildir over NFS

2010-08-06 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 13:31 -0600, CJ Keist wrote: > > For our new mail server I'm looking to switch to the Maildir format. > Some years ago I remember reading that it was not recommended to run > Maildir format over NFS. Now I'm looking at several posts that seem to > indicate that Maildir

Re: [Dovecot] Maildir over NFS

2010-08-06 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 16:27 -0400, Patrick Domack wrote: > . > > Looking at the new methods for v2.0, still on the fence though with them. > Yeah, know what ya mean, I've decided, if it aint broke, dont break it :) <>

Re: [Dovecot] Maildir over NFS

2010-08-07 Thread Noel Butler
On Sat, 2010-08-07 at 09:17 -0600, CJ Keist wrote: > All, > Thanks for all the information. I think I'm leaning towards > locally attached fiber disk array. Couple of advantages I see, one it > will be faster than NFS, second it will allow us to separate user home > directory disk quotas

Re: [Dovecot] Maildir over NFS

2010-08-07 Thread Noel Butler
On Sat, 2010-08-07 at 15:18 -0700, Maxwell Reid wrote: > On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 3:06 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > > Noel Butler put forth on 8/6/2010 4:29 PM: > > > > > Actually you will not notice any difference. How do you think all the > > > big boys do i

Re: [Dovecot] Maildir over NFS

2010-08-09 Thread Noel Butler
On Sun, 2010-08-08 at 00:27 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Care to elaborate on this point? The NFS server sits in user space. All > cluster filesystem operations take place in kernel space. > helll 2001 is calling you, NFS has been in kernel for many years now. it seems I'm missin

[Dovecot] OT Re: Maildir over NFS

2010-08-13 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 06:21 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote: > Simply being wrong does not a troll make, however... No , what makes one a troll is the amount of constant crap emitted from a person over many mediums. > It was pointed out to you a couple of months ago on the spam-l list that spam

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot 2.0 convert script

2010-08-15 Thread Noel Butler
On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 14:06 -0700, Marc Perkel wrote: > Since my old config had this: > > protocols = imap imaps pop3 pop3s > > ssl_cert_file = /usr/share/ssl/certs/imapd.pem > ssl_key_file = /usr/share/ssl/certs/imapd.pem > > then the convert script should have added > > ssl = yes > > Just t

Re: [Dovecot] Standards of expectations for software installs

2010-08-16 Thread Noel Butler
On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 10:22 -0700, Marc Perkel wrote: > a > > > No - I'm saying that an upgrade that does exactly the same thing as the > earlier version should "just work" without having to research cryptic > error messages you get after the new software fails to load. What I'm > saying is tha

Re: [Dovecot] EVERYONE USING DOVECOT PLEASE SIGN: Thanks, Administrators of Dovecot!

2010-08-17 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 12:28 -0400, Jerrale G wrote: > > *Timo Sirainen and Charles Marcus* > eh Charles Marcus is not a developer, he has nothing to do with Dovecot other than he is a participant of this list

Re: [Dovecot] EVERYONE USING DOVECOT PLEASE SIGN: Thanks, Administrators of Dovecot!

2010-08-18 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 16:43 +, Spyros Tsiolis wrote: > > eh Charles Marcus is not a developer, he has nothing to do > > with Dovecot > > other than he is a participant of this list > > Yeah, but I will have to give Charles some credit. > I've crossed swords with him before and, without wanti

[Dovecot] OT [Fwd: Fwd: Re: EVERYONE USING DOVECOT PLEASE SIGN: Thanks, Administrators of Dovecot!]

2010-08-18 Thread Noel Butler
CharlesMarcus LOL, you kinda contradicted yourself here charlie boy and personal RBL? yup, but its not just used by me, its used by a few if you read the link, a few involving millions of emails a day, but shouldnt be a problem giving the geographical locations... and lied? list msgs caught in sp

Re: [Dovecot] nfs director

2010-08-26 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 08:54 +1000, Edward avanti wrote: > Halo, > Please can you explain why this is advantage over a hardware load balancer. it is no advantage over a dedicated hardware solution, but director does not do the exact same thing. > I fail to see advantage if anything it add in mo

Re: [Dovecot] nfs director

2010-08-26 Thread Noel Butler
hers sit there with one or two users on it. I really thought we got over the NFS corruption stuff when Daniel wrote Maildir ... *sigh* On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 22:28 -0700, Brandon Davidson wrote: > Noel, > > On 8/26/10 9:59 PM, "Noel Butler" wrote: > > >> I fail

Re: [Dovecot] nfs director

2010-08-27 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 04:04 -0700, Brandon Davidson wrote: > To each their own. If your setup works without it, then fine, don't use > it... but I don't see why you feel the need to disparage it either. It's I'll some it up put well by someone who mailed me offlist... mx-in-1 gets the connectio

[Dovecot] OT list modification Re: nfs director

2010-08-27 Thread Noel Butler
10-08-28 at 13:11 +1000, Noel Butler wrote: > On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 04:04 -0700, Brandon Davidson wrote: > > > > To each their own. If your setup works without it, then fine, don't use > > it... but I don't see why you feel the need to disparage it either. It&#

Re: [Dovecot] nfs director

2010-09-01 Thread Noel Butler
On Sat, 2010-08-28 at 09:18 +0200, Cor Bosman wrote: > Noel, I think you just dont quite understand the problem the director is > solving. > > The issue is that NFS is not lock-safe over multiple servers. We have 35 > imap servers accessing a central NFS cluster. (we have over a million > mailbo

Re: [Dovecot] nfs director

2010-09-02 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 07:16 +1000, Edward avanti wrote: > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > > > On 8/31/2010 10:22, Ariel Biener wrote: > > > > > > Oh, and Timo, I don't think we are just "a couple of NFS users". Maildir > > > and NFS are not as uncommon as > > > you'd thin

Re: [Dovecot] nfs director

2010-09-02 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 07:22 +1000, Edward avanti wrote: > why you reply with 7 page of rubbish? nasty, he was trying to explain it, even though you (i, and some others) feel its irrelevant , perhaps this subject could have bene modified to remove director :) By a quick skim of this (I didnt ge

Re: [Dovecot] nfs director

2010-09-02 Thread Noel Butler
FFS Gerard keep your self appointed net copping to hte other usual lists, even though on one of them (MailSCaner) you were told by JF that anyone can post in anyway they want, including top post. your not a moderator here, stop playing one. On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 18:19 -0400, Jerry wrote: > On Fr

Re: [Dovecot] nfs director

2010-09-02 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 22:36 -0700, Tim Traver wrote: > > As I read down the thread, I realized that many of the posters were > pointing out that it shouldn't be used because postfix or qmail can > deliver without problems. But in doing that, you lose the performance > gain (and in my case the us

Re: [Dovecot] nfs director

2010-09-07 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 09:50 +0200, Cor Bosman wrote: > Hi Noel, > > > I do take exception to be told this issue can be fixed, but NFS users > > are not worth it, which is essentially what he told us, I dare say if > > I guess he told you this in private? The way i understand it the yep, we ha

Re: [Dovecot] nfs director

2010-09-07 Thread Noel Butler
Tim, On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 12:26 -0700, Tim Traver wrote: > yes, there is no change on the delivery performance, as dovecot-lda is > just a delivery program to the Maildir just like any other. The thing > that it does different is update the dovecot uidlist and update the > index with a new mail

Re: [Dovecot] Lost %d variable

2010-09-12 Thread Noel Butler
On Sun, 2010-09-12 at 01:24 -0400, Aladdin wrote: > > mail_location: > maildir:/var/mail/%d/%n:CONTROL=/var/mail/%d/%n:INDEX=/var/mail/%d/%n:INBOX= > /var/mail/%d/%n > This looks wrong- maildir:/var/mail/%d/%n it should be maildir:/var/mail/%d/%n/Maildir and it appears strange that yo

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