[DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-18.txt

2022-10-20 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations WG of the IETF. Title : The ALT Special Use Top Level Domain Authors : Warren Kumari Paul Hof

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call?

2022-10-20 Thread Martin Schanzenbach
On 20.10.22 12:05, Brian Dickson wrote: > On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 1:16 AM Eliot Lear wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > First, I would like us to continue to consult on the registry matter at > > least through the London IETF, and would ask the chairs for some time in > > London for this purpose. I would

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call?

2022-10-20 Thread Paul Wouters
On Oct 20, 2022, at 04:16, Eliot Lear wrote: > >  > As a matter of practicality, a registry surely will be form. Wikipedia is a great reference to list them all. Even the costs of maintaining the page is decentralized without a single authority that has ownership over the page content. It’s

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call?

2022-10-20 Thread Joe Abley
Hi Andrew, On Oct 20, 2022, at 15:57, Andrew Sullivan wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 09:40:01PM +0200, Eliot Lear wrote: >> >> They're asking for the registry. > > Who is asking for it? And more importantly, what will a registry do? As I > pointed out already in this thread, the registry

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call?

2022-10-20 Thread Peter Thomassen
On 10/20/22 15:05, Brian Dickson wrote: I fear those challenges mean that GNS simply won't be possible to properly have registry entries, and without GNS, or possibly using GNS as an alternative namespace example, the registry makes no sense. Here's the problem that the GNS draft includes (a

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call?

2022-10-20 Thread Andrew Sullivan
Hi, [ObDisclaimer] On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 09:40:01PM +0200, Eliot Lear wrote: They're asking for the registry. Who is asking for it? And more importantly, what will a registry do? As I pointed out already in this thread, the registry won't be complete, it won't be accurate, and it won't

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call?

2022-10-20 Thread Eliot Lear
On 20.10.22 21:13, Andrew Sullivan wrote: Hi Eliot, Still employed and still not speaking for them, I have a question: On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 10:15:22AM +0200, Eliot Lear wrote: As a matter of practicality, a registry surely will be form. What evidence do you have for this assertion? T

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call?

2022-10-20 Thread Andrew Sullivan
Hi Eliot, Still employed and still not speaking for them, I have a question: On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 10:15:22AM +0200, Eliot Lear wrote: As a matter of practicality, a registry surely will be form. What evidence do you have for this assertion? As a practical matter, after all, if a registr

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call?

2022-10-20 Thread Brian Dickson
On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 1:16 AM Eliot Lear wrote: > Hi, > > First, I would like us to continue to consult on the registry matter at > least through the London IETF, and would ask the chairs for some time in > London for this purpose. I would also be available for side meetings > with any interes

[DNSOP] Murray Kucherawy's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp-05: (with COMMENT)

2022-10-20 Thread Murray Kucherawy via Datatracker
Murray Kucherawy has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp-05: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call?

2022-10-20 Thread Timothy Mcsweeney
Sounds like some people want .alt to be the internet police. Nobody wants it except like 5 people not the entire world. > On 10/20/2022 8:01 AM EDT Eliot Lear wrote: > > > Hi Vittorio > > On 20.10.22 13:19, Vittorio Bertola wrote: > > But IANA is not the registry for everything under the

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Lars Eggert's Discuss on draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp-05: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2022-10-20 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Oct 20, 2022, at 5:02 AM, Lars Eggert via Datatracker wrote: > -- > DISCUSS: > -- > > ## Discuss > > ### "Abstract", paragraph 1 > ``` > This document d

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Zaheduzzaman Sarker's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp-05: (with COMMENT)

2022-10-20 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Oct 20, 2022, at 12:07 AM, Zaheduzzaman Sarker wrote: > >> On 19 Oct 2022, at 22:54, Paul Hoffman wrote: >> >> On Oct 19, 2022, at 6:38 AM, Zaheduzzaman Sarker via Datatracker >> wrote: >>> -- >>> COMMENT: >>> ---

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Murray Kucherawy's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp-05: (with COMMENT)

2022-10-20 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Oct 19, 2022, at 11:01 PM, Murray Kucherawy via Datatracker wrote: > -- > COMMENT: > -- > > I'm not sure how I feel about this being a BCP. If it's more of

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call?

2022-10-20 Thread Eliot Lear
Joe, On 20.10.22 14:44, Joe Abley wrote: To be clear, Eliot, you're not suggesting that these topics shouldn't be discussed here, right? It's a working group mailing list.  Of course things can be discussed here.  My issue is that we are suffering from that lack of high bandwidth. Eliot

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call?

2022-10-20 Thread Joe Abley
On Oct 20, 2022, at 08:26, Eliot Lear wrote: > On 20.10.22 14:14, Jim Reid wrote: >> IMO, it doesn’t say that at all Eliot. A fairer PoV here would be when the >> IETF gets handed non-IETF problems, it keeps well away (perhaps after a >> discussion of the merits and/or scope of that problem). >

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call?

2022-10-20 Thread Eliot Lear
Hi Jim, On 20.10.22 14:14, Jim Reid wrote: IMO, it doesn’t say that at all Eliot. A fairer PoV here would be when the IETF gets handed non-IETF problems, it keeps well away (perhaps after a discussion of the merits and/or scope of that problem). As I wrote, we should discuss this in London,

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call?

2022-10-20 Thread Jim Reid
> On 20 Oct 2022, at 13:01, Eliot Lear wrote: > > ducking that says that when the IETF faces tough problems, others must step > in. IMO, it doesn’t say that at all Eliot. A fairer PoV here would be when the IETF gets handed non-IETF problems, it keeps well away (perhaps after a discussion o

Re: [DNSOP] [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp-03

2022-10-20 Thread Lars Eggert
Linda, thank you for your review. I have entered a Discuss ballot for this document based on my own review. Lars > On 2022-10-4, at 1:18, Linda Dunbar via Datatracker wrote: > > Reviewer: Linda Dunbar > Review result: Ready with Issues > > I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. Th

[DNSOP] Lars Eggert's Discuss on draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp-05: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2022-10-20 Thread Lars Eggert via Datatracker
Lars Eggert has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp-05: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call?

2022-10-20 Thread Eliot Lear
Hi Vittorio On 20.10.22 13:19, Vittorio Bertola wrote: But IANA is not the registry for everything under the sun, it is the registry for things that fall under the purview of the IETF and are part of IETF standards. If we agree that names under .alt do not belong to and at the IETF, then it m

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call?

2022-10-20 Thread Vittorio Bertola
> Il 20/10/2022 10:15 CEST Eliot Lear ha scritto: > > As a matter of practicality, a registry surely will be form.  It is > simply a matter of whether the IANA will host it.  If the IANA does not > host it, then by shifting it elsewhere this group is actually weakening > the IANA function, a

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call?

2022-10-20 Thread Eliot Lear
Hi, First, I would like us to continue to consult on the registry matter at least through the London IETF, and would ask the chairs for some time in London for this purpose.  I would also be available for side meetings with any interested party, before or during the IETF.  If people would lik

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Zaheduzzaman Sarker's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp-05: (with COMMENT)

2022-10-20 Thread Zaheduzzaman Sarker
> On 19 Oct 2022, at 22:54, Paul Hoffman wrote: > > On Oct 19, 2022, at 6:38 AM, Zaheduzzaman Sarker via Datatracker > wrote: >> -- >> COMMENT: >> -- >> >>