Re: [Dng] Crunchbag Linux calls it quits

2015-02-07 Thread emninger
Am Sat, 07 Feb 2015 12:00:02 + schrieb dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org: > I am a crunchbanger, and my sense is that the community was fine with > systemd, that it intended to roll right on in to Jesse without asking > any questions. The thinking was "Crunchbang is based on Debian, and > so it will

Re: [DNG] network-manager depends on libpam-systemd (Daniel Reurich)

2016-05-03 Thread emninger
It's a bit late, but in wicd you can use usb adapters (i did with a ralink based one) or share wifi via ethernet. It's tricky, yes, but with the use of scripts it can be done. At the time, i had a big help from someone in the (german) ubuntu user forums. Also: Ceni is an excellent ncurses based to

Re: [DNG] OpenRC and Devuan

2016-05-03 Thread emninger
Am Tue, 03 May 2016 08:27:05 + schrieb dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org: > From: parazyd > To: Hendrik Boom > Cc: dng@lists.dyne.org > Subject: Re: [DNG] OpenRC and Devuan > Message-ID: <20160503071226.GA10101@hansolo> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On Mon, 02 May 2016, Hendrik B

[DNG] e: network-manager depends on libpam-systemd (Daniel Reurich)

2016-05-04 Thread emninger
Am Wed, 04 May 2016 10:07:01 + schrieb dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org: > How do you like ceni? There isn't much detail in the man > page. How does it deal with suspend? (With wicd-gtk I have > to reconnect after wake-up.) > > I see there is a debian package available here: > > http://aptosid.com

[DNG] Some questions re the devuan release

2016-05-13 Thread emninger
Finally i succeeded in installing devuan to this odd samsung ultrabook (it's nice but beeing amd based it's getting crazily hot with the standard free video drivers) and now i have some questions: Is there a place where to ask "dumb" questions (let's say, simple user related). I don't want to dist

Re: [DNG] Some questions re the devuan release

2016-05-14 Thread emninger
Am Sat, 14 May 2016 05:28:42 + schrieb Irrwahn > Sounds reasonable to mention the default desktop flavor. It > really doesn't already? (I didn't pay attention last time I > installed.) No. When it comes to choose the software to install, it says Devuan default desktop (i should have known,

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 20, Issue 74

2016-05-14 Thread emninger
Am Sat, 14 May 2016 11:21:02 + schrieb Steve Litt > On Sat, 14 May 2016 00:13:28 +0200 > wrote: > > > > 4) As for the desktop: On another machine i use Manjaro JWM Open-RC > > - and from a functional (and esthetical!) point of view it's > > marvellous. > > JWM is wonderful. Extremely l

Re: [DNG] Some questions re the devuan release

2016-05-14 Thread emninger
Am Sat, 14 May 2016 07:55:35 -0400 schrieb ". fsmithred" : > I've installed devuan beta from the amd64 netinstall and DVD, and > from the i386 CD, and in all cases, when I got to the tasksel window, > there was a checkbox for default devuan desktop followed by a list of > desktop environments to c

Re: [DNG] Some questions re the devuan release

2016-05-14 Thread emninger
Am Sat, 14 May 2016 12:00:02 + schrieb ". fsmithred" : > You can get a newer kernel from devuan jessie backports repo, but be > careful. The apt priority of backports is set as high as the main > repo, so it's very easy to accidentally get a flood of packages from > backports. Add the followin

[DNG] Suspend blocks wifi

2016-05-14 Thread emninger
Suspend to ram (done by xfce powermanagement) soft blocks wifi. After a suspend (to ram) i have to do a 'sudo rfkill unblock wifi' to reconnect. I also tried with a little script i made for tinycorelinux to suspend to ram: #!/bin/sh xscreensaver-command -lock & sleep 3 && sudo su "root" -c "e

Re: [DNG] Some questions re the devuan release

2016-05-14 Thread emninger
Am Sat, 14 May 2016 15:13:38 + (UTC) schrieb Go Linux : > On Sat, 5/14/16, emnin...@riseup.net wrote: > > Subject: Re: [DNG] Some questions re the devuan release > To: ". fsmithred" > Cc: "dng" > Date: Saturday, May 14, 2016, 10:04 AM > > > > > > > Ceni, you can get from launchpad u

[DNG] zram init

2016-05-14 Thread emninger
In the repositories i do not find a zram-init script? Is there any problem with (for devuan)? I see it runs in tinycore (which not even knows what systemd is ;) ). ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listi

Re: [DNG] dealing with wifi

2016-05-14 Thread emninger
Am Sat, 14 May 2016 17:07:06 + schrieb Didier Kryn : > You have mostly two ways to deal with wifi. > > 1) you select the station and enter the key everytime you > connect. 2) your system remembers the ssid's and keys of all stations > you need and it connects you automatically - thi

Re: [DNG] Some questions re the devuan release

2016-05-14 Thread emninger
Am Sat, 14 May 2016 19:21:29 + schrieb Steve Litt : > > In Voidlinux, wpa_supplicant is > > started as a hook of dhcpcd ... > > Yeah, what's up with that nonsense? And then the hook isn't enabled by > default, so you have to either ask, do 3 hours searching contradictory > web info, or do

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 20, Issue 79

2016-05-14 Thread emninger
Am Sat, 14 May 2016 19:21:29 + schrieb Steve Litt : > But as I said before, I think Debian's JWM package is so bad that > either the package should be refactored, or JWM should be compiled fro > source. Ok, i'll go that way ... ;) Btw, for bad packages: Did you ever try the preconfigured use

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 20, Issue 78

2016-05-14 Thread emninger
Am Sat, 14 May 2016 17:07:06 + schrieb Didier Kryn : > You have mostly two ways to deal with wifi. > > 1) you select the station and enter the key everytime you > connect. 2) your system remembers the ssid's and keys of all stations > you need and it connects you automatically - thi

Re: [DNG] JWM: was Some questions re the devuan release (Steve Litt)

2016-05-14 Thread emninger
Am Sat, 14 May 2016 19:21:29 + schrieb dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org: > But as I said before, I think Debian's JWM package is so bad that > either the package should be refactored, or JWM should be compiled fro > source. Hola. Try out this ~.jwmrc: $HOME/.jwm/keys $HOME/.jwm/m

Re: [DNG] JWM: was Some questions re the devuan release (Steve Litt)

2016-05-14 Thread emninger
Am Sat, 14 May 2016 19:21:29 + schrieb dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org: > But as I said before, I think Debian's JWM package is so bad that > either the package should be refactored, or JWM should be compiled fro > source. Hola. Try out this ~.jwmrc: $HOME/.jwm/keys $HOME/.jwm/m

Re: [DNG] Some questions re the devuan release

2016-05-14 Thread emninger
Am Sat, 14 May 2016 19:21:29 + schrieb Irrwahn : > Short list of Devuan repository URLs: > > ## stable (jessie) NB: I ommitted the deb-src entries here! > deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged stable main contrib > non-free deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged stable-updates >

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 20, Issue 83

2016-05-15 Thread emninger
Am Sun, 15 May 2016 12:00:01 + schrieb Irrwahn : [...] > As I already mentioned in an earlier message, I need the > non-free catalyst fglrx driver, which for reasons beyond my > knowledge is currently not available in neither testing nor > unstable. So I pull that one from Jessie. > > Eve

[DNG] About subject lines

2016-05-16 Thread emninger
Am Sun, 15 May 2016 21:45:10 + schrieb Steve Litt : [ . . . ] > Hi emninger, > > Could you please alter email subjects to reflect what you're actually > replying to? It helps those of us receiving the message to track > threads (client threading doesn't always

Re: [DNG] Brief OpenRC/Jessie Discussion on the linux-elitists lists

2016-05-16 Thread emninger
As for me, i understand those who are hurted by the use of the term mafia (one half of my family is from "there" ;) ), but i also understand the may be improper but innocent use of that term in a different social and cultural context. May be it's a good way to try to understand the reasons of the

Re: [DNG] About subject lines

2016-05-16 Thread emninger
Am Mon, 16 May 2016 10:54:45 + schrieb Didier Kryn : > Cheers emniner, > > My exasperation isn't that much against the authors of emails > with bad subject, but rather against the junk software which produces > that (I'm curious about by which mechanism). Moderating them out > would

Re: [DNG] Brief OpenRC/Jessie Discussion on the linux-elitists lists

2016-05-17 Thread emninger
Am Mon, 16 May 2016 13:41:14 + schrieb dev : > Very well spoken. Debian leadership has demonstrated it's disinterest > in remaining "Free". There is another motive driving Debian > development now and Systemd will end up being the core of Debian. To > remove it will only mean uninstalling the

Re: [DNG] JWM Package worth the effort? was About subject lines

2016-05-17 Thread emninger
Am Tue, 17 May 2016 12:00:02 + schrieb Florian Zieboll : > I use JWM for the guest account on my old 1GB RAM laptop and vote for > a JWM based desktop environment in Devuan as the lightest possible and > really straight forward *intuitive GUI* I know. If the "Devuan JWM > Edition" is going to

[DNG] about fglrx (especially to Irrwahn)

2016-05-17 Thread emninger
Hi. Indeed upgrading my system in some way i lost fglrx, and now, when i try to reinstall it from the repositories i'm getting that there is no fglrx driver. When i reactivate the Jessie repositories, the driver is there but when i try to install it, synaptic or apt-get lament that fglrx depends on

Re: [DNG] about fglrx (especially to Irrwahn)

2016-05-18 Thread emninger
Am Wed, 18 May 2016 03:54:05 + schrieb Irrwahn : [ . . . ] > The virtual package xorg-video-abi 18 is provided by xserver- > xorg-core version 1.16 from Jessie (currently that's 2:1.16.4-1, > to be precise). So you'd have to downgrade that package, and in > consequence downgrade xorg (and

Re: [DNG] JWM: was Some questions re the devuan release

2016-05-19 Thread emninger
Am Thu, 19 May 2016 10:41:02 + schrieb Irrwahn : > On Sun, 15 May 2016 09:39:29 +1000, Ozi Traveller wrote: > > I agree, and I think JWM in out of date, as the version of the > > source from the developer's site is much later. > > The version of JWM in Debian Sid (and thus in Devuan > Cere

[DNG] some problems with login after fresh install of jessie

2016-05-19 Thread emninger
Hi! To make a long story short: Because of lots of overheating problems with an amd64 based Samsung notebook, which made any reliable woking impossible, i decided to downgrade to jessie (from ascii) with a fresh install. So far that worked fine. I chose as desktop lxde (and unticked Devuan default

[DNG] desktop environment independent logout tool

2016-05-19 Thread emninger
Is there somewhere a desktop independent tool, to logout from an xsession (and even better: with a suspend and reboot command too :) )? I tried with lxde-logout in a jwm desktop, but apparently that does not work. I also tried a script (found in arch), called oblogout (which originally came from

Re: [DNG] Artistic decisions - keyboard mappings

2016-05-19 Thread emninger
Am Thu, 19 May 2016 10:41:02 + schrieb Irrwahn : [ . . . ] > > 2) Terminate X via Ctrl-Alt-Backspace > > > >Seems like an easy, useful, historic way to kill a > > malfunctioning X. > > That would coincide with my preferences, but I dare not > speculate about the usefulness for said

Re: [DNG] some problems with login after fresh install of jessie

2016-05-20 Thread emninger
> > password make disappear the login window, but the screen remains > > with yellow or green background of the slim theme. > > > Hallo Emninger, > > I just installed JWM (next to DWM and LXDE) and can not confirm your > problem: slim automagically finds and inclu

Re: [DNG] ***SPAM*** Dng Digest, Vol 20, Issue 102

2016-05-20 Thread emninger
Am Thu, 19 May 2016 15:46:15 + schrieb Florian Zieboll : > Here a quick "universal logout" hack for slim: [ . . . ] I thank you for your effort and help. I'll save it for the momentm but i won't try it out before i did not figure out my login problem (cfr. the related msg).

Re: [DNG] desktop environment independent logout tool

2016-05-20 Thread emninger
Am Thu, 19 May 2016 15:46:15 + schrieb Florian Zieboll : > Here a quick "universal logout" hack for slim: [ . . . ] I thank you for your effort and help. I'll save it for the momentm but i won't try it out before i did not figure out my login problem (cfr. the related msg).

Re: [DNG] some problems with login after fresh install of jessie

2016-05-20 Thread emninger
I think i go a bit closer to my problem with the login via a display manager: I tried several login managers, and with allo of them trying to login as user brings me into nirwana. Now, i tried to login as root (+ passwd) via Slim and voilà, it worked! So, my suspect here - but without any idea h

[DNG] My comment on Vendor Lock-in

2016-05-20 Thread emninger
Am Sat, 21 May 2016 00:44:24 + schrieb Steve Litt : > Hi all, > > Boston LUG list. One guy said "there are alternatives to Gnome." The > next guy said "yeah, but a lot of software needs Gnome, implying > alternatives won't do the trick. Then I had my say: > > http://blu.org/pipermail/discuss

[DNG] sudo or su?

2016-05-21 Thread emninger
I followed the standard settings of the installer which leads me to have root and (a) user. Now, i know there are different philosophies about the use of sudo. Frankly, is there any relevant difference between 'sudo + command' or 'su -c + command'? TIA! ___

Re: [DNG] some problems with login after fresh install of jessie (solved)

2016-05-21 Thread emninger
Am Sat, 21 May 2016 00:44:24 + schrieb emnin...@riseup.net: > Just to clarify, happens the same with lightdm. The slim.log file, i > deleted the old one, so it's a fresh on, just after hanging, says: > > > slim: unexpected signal 15 > > slim: waiting for X server to shut down > > slim:

[DNG] xpdf needs to uninstall lxde and lxde-desktop-tasks !?!

2016-05-22 Thread emninger
Anyone here knows, why the hell the installation of xpdf (in devuan) needs to deinstall lxde and lxde-desktop-tasks? I do not understand the reason why (in slackware for example there did not exist this problem). May be that's an inherited dependency problem (?) Me, as a simple user, i would lik

Re: [DNG] xpdf needs to uninstall lxde and lxde-desktop-tasks !?!

2016-05-22 Thread emninger
Am Sun, 22 May 2016 16:39:26 + schrieb Florian Zieboll : > No spiderwebs or other dust here... (Jessie): > > | root@nulldevice:~# apt-get install xpdf lxde task-lxde-desktop > | Reading package lists... Done > | Building dependency tree > | Reading state information... Done > | lxde is alread

[DNG] Evince

2016-05-22 Thread emninger
Hi. I do not know if it is intended to do such trivial suggestions but ... ;) Being on my way to adapt my (jwm/fluxbox) setup to what i had before on slackware, i stumbled into this: Devuan comes with evince by default. Now, i installed epdfviewer which says in its description: "Lightweight pdf

[DNG] Logout problem

2016-05-23 Thread emninger
Thanks to Ozi i got two desktop independent logout/hibernate tools which generally work fine (cb-exit and oblogout). But i have a problem when i try the suspend/restart commands: I get this error msg: --- Error org.freedesktop.UPower.GeneralError: not authorized --- The command in the above tool

Re: [DNG] Logout problem

2016-05-23 Thread emninger
Add-on: > I also found an instruction to > create /var/lib/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/custom-actions.pkla > with this content: > > > [Actions for user ] > Identity=unix-user: > Action=org.freedesktop.upower.*;org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.*;org.freedesk​top.udisks.* > ResultAny=y

[DNG] voice notifying - how to turn off

2016-05-23 Thread emninger
All of a sudden i'm getting many notifying msgs as voice msg as well (also all i do in synaptic or sakura may be even other programs). Now, i'd like to know, which is the standard notify daemon for devuan and if it can eventually turned off/removed (and be substituted bei dunst)? Or, otherwise, h

Re: [DNG] Evince

2016-05-23 Thread emninger
Am Mon, 23 May 2016 10:37:45 + schrieb Irrwahn : [ . . . ] > There is no such thing as a default PDF viewer for Devuan. Ok, i said it in the wrong way: Installing Devuan + LXDE desktop brings Evince ... My idea was simply, that's not really coherent with the idea of Devuan. Moreover, removin

Re: [DNG] voice notifying - how to turn off [SOLVED]

2016-05-23 Thread emninger
Am Mon, 23 May 2016 12:00:01 + schrieb dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org: > Re: voice notifying - how to turn off (Irrwahn) I understood where the problem lay and so i solved: It was i had installed dex to give to jwm the possibility to autostart the .desktop files in /etc/xdg/autostart and in ~/.co

[DNG] logout does not work

2016-05-23 Thread emninger
This problem is driving me nuts: I cannot logout neither from lxde using lxde-logout nor from jwm using jwm -exit. And even C-A-Backsp does not work. I'm logged out yes, but then i end up in dead terminal with the underline cursor up left. This is true as any user, also as root. The /var/log/sli

Re: [DNG] Evince

2016-05-23 Thread emninger
Am Mon, 23 May 2016 18:11:51 + schrieb Irrwahn : > (Another example would be EOM, which is a simple and very > fast image viewer, clone of EOG.) Offtopic, but: Why not viewnior? It's fast, small and very efficient (i knew it from crunchbang which for sure was not that bad as distro). ___

[DNG] How to change default session

2016-05-23 Thread emninger
Where it is coded, that lxde (startlxde) is the default session (for slim; it's also the topmost one in lightdm, but lightdm has the "memory" function)? I can cycle thru the available sessions by F1 but i would prefer to automatically have jwm as default (and not lxde). I found an instruction on

Re: [DNG] How to change default session

2016-05-23 Thread emninger
Am Tue, 24 May 2016 00:42:55 + schrieb Didier Kryn : > Doesn't slim use the last one on next session? Unfortunately not; lightdm does. PS. If lightdm is the future: is there a way to free it from the gnome-accessibility and other dependencies? May be someone able to package can have a look

Re: [DNG] How to change default session

2016-05-23 Thread emninger
Am Tue, 24 May 2016 00:42:55 + schrieb Adam Borowski update-alternatives --config x-session-manager That's it!! :) Now, there remains the question: How can i add JWM to the recognized sessions?f 'update-alternatives --config x-session-manager' only sees lxsession, startlxde and openbox but

Re: [DNG] How to change default session

2016-05-23 Thread emninger
Am Tue, 24 May 2016 00:42:55 + schrieb dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org: > update-alternatives --config x-session-manager Addendum: I reflected a bit about the problem how to add jwm to the available choices for update alternatives: I looked into x-session-manager and i found this lines: #!/

Re: [DNG] How to change default session

2016-05-23 Thread emninger
Am Tue, 24 May 2016 05:41:47 + schrieb Irrwahn : > If you really want to take that route: Good luck with that. I understand :) And, no, i will not!!! I don't want to stress the people willed to help ;) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https:/

Re: [DNG] How to change default session

2016-05-23 Thread emninger
Am Tue, 24 May 2016 05:41:47 + schrieb Irrwahn : > No need to, since there is no such dependency at all: > > /lightdm_1.10.3-3_amd64.deb > --\ Depends (11) > --- adduser > --- dbus > --- debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0 > --- libc6 (>= 2.14) > --- libgcrypt20 (>= 1.6.0) >

Re: [DNG] How to change default session

2016-05-24 Thread emninger
Am Tue, 24 May 2016 07:27:11 + schrieb Irrwahn : Thanks!!! > Protip: If you'd like to avoid such unwanted installs, > there is an easy way to tweak apt, namely by creating > this file: > > $ cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01norecommends > APT::Install-Recommends "0"; > APT::Install-Suggest

[DNG] OpenRC

2016-05-24 Thread emninger
Is there a link to an instruction how to use (and setup) openrc together with sysvinit? I'd like to use openrc as a tool to administrate daemons and services since i find it a lot more "logical" (easy?). One question for example is, if can be used the (needed) openrc scripts from other distros (l

Re: [DNG] How to change default session

2016-05-24 Thread emninger
Am Tue, 24 May 2016 07:27:11 + Irrwahn wrote:: > I tried that a few days ago, and got some ... umm ... > "interesting" results. I just tried that again on a clean > VM install (dropped a one-liner for ~/.xsessionrc) and at > first it did indeed look better. However, after exiting from > j

Re: [DNG] How to change default session

2016-05-24 Thread emninger
Am Tue, 24 May 2016 14:12:07 + schrieb Irrwahn : > Checked with your above script. Again, works for me: C-M-BS > kills X server dead instantly. So does for me now; there was a typo in ~/.xsession.rc :-( I changed the cmd_login line in slim to be sure it loads correctly all i want. If i exec

[DNG] Configure Xterm

2016-05-24 Thread emninger
I would like to have in the terminal (i use xterm), directories shown not only with a different colour (i managed that) but also with final slash (i liked that in some bsd and in slackware), e.g.: ~/.bogofilter/ ~/.claws-mail/ etc. Someone knows by chance how to set that in .Xresources? Thanks a

[DNG] Pulseaudio ...

2016-05-24 Thread emninger
Is pulseaudio necessary? As i understand it (and as i remember), it shouldn't be needed (in lubuntu at least in former times) it was not installed ... (?) But it's a long time i was away from Debian ... ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mail

[DNG] Please excuse me for using a wrong smtp server

2016-05-26 Thread emninger
Please excuse me for using - sometimes - a wrong (not subscribed) smtp server. Using several mail services for different purposes, soemtimes i was too hasty sending a mail out. So, sorry for that. (I hoped, being not registered with that account, the mails wouldn't be accepted ;) ). Cheers! __

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 20, Issue 138

2016-05-26 Thread emninger
Am Thu, 26 May 2016 06:38:05 + schrieb Steve Litt : > Before you do this, allow me to ask you this question: Do you want the > capability of respawning daemons that crash? OpenRC can't do that. If > you prefer respawning, consider using s3, daemontools-encore or even > Runit to manage your dae

Re: [DNG] OpenRC: Was: Re: Dng Digest, Vol 20, Issue 138

2016-05-26 Thread emninger
Am Thu, 26 May 2016 12:50:19 +0200 schrieb Svante Signell : > On Thu, 2016-05-26 at 11:28 +0200, emnin...@riseup.net wrote: > > Please keep the subject, even if you are reading the mails via the > Digest service! You're right! Sorry about that, i was too fast :-( Btw, could that be corrected ex

Re: [DNG] Evince

2016-05-26 Thread emninger
I do not find the msg, but someone here suggested to use xpdf, possibly with a more esthetic skin. I for one, would love that, since i find xpdf really very functional and with acceptable print options too. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https:

Re: [DNG] Logout problem

2016-05-26 Thread emninger
Some time ago Ozi Traveller helped me out for my logout problem sending me 2 desktop environment independent logout tools (cb-exit and oblogout, which essentially do the same, only oblogout is a bit more eye candy). I had some problems with them but solved by changing the localauthority settings of

[DNG] Thanks for your help

2016-05-26 Thread emninger
Hi all! I wanted to say thank you to you all for patience and your help. I've finished now, more or less, my installation with a "custom made" jwm desktop. So far, so fine. The remaining logout problem, seems to be solved by the installation of lxdm (which is not that much bigger than slim; i als

Re: [DNG] Thanks for your help

2016-05-27 Thread emninger
Am Fri, 27 May 2016 12:00:01 + schrieb Didier Kryn : > Dear emninger, when you are finished more more than less, it would > be very valuable if you could give us a summary, like a simple howto, > because digging the thread to trace back everything you tried is a > lot of wor

Re: [DNG] [OT] Re: You might have seen this already...

2016-05-29 Thread emninger
Am Sun, 29 May 2016 12:00:02 + schrieb KatolaZ : > You know what baffles me? It is that all this fuss has been made in > the name of making "Linux Desktop" a better experience, while the > major use of Linux is on servers, backend infrastructure, and high > performance computing, where users g

[DNG] What's the correct place for backgrounds, wallpapers etc.

2016-05-31 Thread emninger
I see in the Jessie installation the Devuan backgrounds are placed in /etc/alternatives. Is that a good place? One would expect them rather in /usr/share/wallpapers, or not? Cheers. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cg

[DNG] comunity driven repositories

2016-05-31 Thread emninger
Hello list! Is it possible/wished to have comunity driven repositories for devuan? Background: trying to put together the stuff to make a viable JWM desktop for devuan, i realize there are some key applications/scripts/tools which are *NOT* in the devuan repositories (not even in testing or unstab

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 20, Issue 159

2016-05-31 Thread emninger
Am Tue, 31 May 2016 21:45:52 + schrieb Jaromil : [ . . . ] > yes we share the space on git.devuan.org > > from there code can go to jenkins builds and repository > here a sketch > https://devuan.org/os/press/devuan-ci-graph.png > > so be welcome to create a user on the gitlab and push there

Re: [DNG] comunity driven repositories [was: Dng Digest, Vol 21, Issue 1]

2016-06-01 Thread emninger
Am Wed, 01 Jun 2016 04:55:50 + schrieb Jaromil : > I understand the issue. this may end up being many packages etc. > > I would say for your intentio a good start is to put notes together on > how to get your installation running (compiling from source stuff if > necessary), maybe a guide on

Re: [DNG] comunity driven repositories

2016-06-01 Thread emninger
Am Wed, 01 Jun 2016 04:55:50 + schrieb Jaromil : > I would say for your intentio a good start is to put notes together on > how to get your installation running (compiling from source stuff if > necessary), maybe a guide on https://talk.devuan.org where it can > grow with comments What sectio

[DNG] use zram for /tmp - how?

2016-06-04 Thread emninger
Anyone of you knows a way how to use zram for /tmp ? (I inherited a sony_vaio with 16 gb of ram - which i never ever will/could use, so i thought to use the excessive ram configuring zram). For OpenRc there are scripts to utilize zram either/and for swap and/or for tmp. They are looking like this

Re: [DNG] use zram for /tmp - how?

2016-06-04 Thread emninger
Am Sat, 04 Jun 2016 21:14:23 + schrieb parazyd : > For /tmp I would definitely use tmpfs. > It's as simple as adding an entry to the fstab > > tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nodev,nosuid,size=2G 0 0 > > In this example, your /tmp will be 2 gigabytes big, but tmpfs will > keep your /tmp in RAM, while n

Re: [DNG] use zram for /tmp - how?

2016-06-04 Thread emninger
Am Sat, 04 Jun 2016 21:14:23 + schrieb Florian Zieboll : > just guessing as I am usually rather low on ram... following the > debian wiki link, for a first try i'd adapt the $SIZE and replace the > mkswap/swapon lines of the script with "mount /dev/zram$i /tmp" and > comment out the stop/swapo

[DNG] adblocking using /etc/hosts

2016-06-05 Thread emninger
I don't know, if it is the right place here to ask such trivial questions, if not please tell me, no problem at all. I wanted to suggest, for the future, may be for a better user experience, if it is possible and reasonable to create a small script, which would configure /etc/hosts in a way that a

Re: [DNG] use zram for /tmp - how?

2016-06-05 Thread emninger
Am Sun, 05 Jun 2016 12:00:01 + schrieb Didier Kryn : > I have a laptop with 16GB of ram. I configured it like this with > the primary goal of not using swap at all. And my /tmp is a tmpfs > with a 4G limit. This allows me to use an SSD as hard disk drive. I > didn't want to swap to an SS

[DNG] how to make xterm window not close automatically after executing a command?

2016-06-05 Thread emninger
If i do 'xterm -T Htop -e htop' the terminal window rests open, if i do 'xterm -T Sysinfo -e inxi -F' the window closes. In some way it's logical, to me, since htop has not finished its job until i do not do F10. Inxi, otoh, has finished. But how can i make, that also the windows with the -inxi -F

Re: [DNG] how to make xterm window not close automatically

2016-06-05 Thread emninger
Buon dì, KatolaZ Am Mon, 06 Jun 2016 00:16:43 + schrieb KatolaZ : > You should try ' -e "inxi | less" Thx for the hint! But unfortunately,that does *NOT* work in any terminal program (sakura, lxterminal & cie) within X. Using the command with xterm though, produces a nearly unreadable outp

[DNG] devuan installer and overheating

2016-06-06 Thread emninger
Finally i succeeded in installing a devuan ascii into qemu (running on an archlinux openrc system). And here too, i noticed that the debian installer is somehow "extreme" in using ressources. Note this is *NOT* an amd graphics based machine but a sony_vaio with nvidia graphics. (On another laptop,

Re: [DNG] devuan installer and overheating

2016-06-07 Thread emninger
Am Tue, 07 Jun 2016 08:33:08 + schrieb Simon Walter : > I have not noticed this. What are the models of your notebook > computers? > > You could do everyone a favour and debug it a little. Do you know > which process was spinning the CPU? a Samsung NP535U3C (amd processor and graphics) a So

[DNG] package request

2016-06-10 Thread emninger
Would it be possible to package palemoon for devuan? Since a while, i am unhappy with firefox/iceweasel and trying here and there i found that, from a users point of view, palemoon would be a very valid and viable substitute. As far as i am able to check, most, if not all privacy related settings

[DNG] task-lxde-desktop is needed?

2016-06-10 Thread emninger
When i removed slim i saw the package task-lxde-desktop was removed as well. I checked a bit and i saw: This package is used to install Devuan desktop, featuring the LXDE desktop environment, and with other packages that Devuan users expect to have available on the desktop It depends on

Re: [DNG] package request

2016-06-10 Thread emninger
Am Fri, 10 Jun 2016 14:36:05 + schrieb dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org: > > Would it be possible to package palemoon for devuan? > > Are there a reasons for that? > > I use palemoon myself on Devuan. Just downloaded their bundle and > opened in /opt/palemoon, set the bin in PATH and ready for u

Re: [DNG] package request

2016-06-11 Thread emninger
Am Sat, 11 Jun 2016 04:33:34 + schrieb Irrwahn : > The deb-packaged version by Steven Pusser I already mentioned > in another subthread did not show such issues at the time I > installed it: > > https://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=home%3Astevenpusser&package=palemoon > > N

Re: [DNG] package request

2016-06-11 Thread emninger
Am Fri, 10 Jun 2016 17:48:02 + schrieb Go Linux : > I use palemoon sometimes. I actually run it (and tor) from my /user > directory. The problem with ANY browser other than FF/Iceweasel is > the lack of addons - I use about 25. (Chrome is the worst at this.) > Palemoon has some of them avai

[DNG] installer iso with wpa_supplicant

2016-06-12 Thread emninger
I just realized that in the devuan jessie installer in the basic install (i.e. before you select software and DE) there is no wpa_supplicant - so you (at least me) cannot configure a wireless connection from commandline. (Jaromil in chat confirmed my observation) Are there any plans to correct th

[DNG] problem with devuan on qemu

2016-06-12 Thread emninger
I try to install devuan ascii on qemu, following the respective instructions on the git (https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/wikis/try-devuan-on-qemu). Boot is fine, i choose expert installation but when it comes to tasksel the installation of software always fails. I can pass by this step

[DNG] task-lxde-desktop 3.33+devuan0.3

2016-06-13 Thread emninger
Sorry if i am coming back to task-lxde-desktop: Finally - and i really do not understand how, but anyway - i succeeded installin devuan ascii on qemu. I did not install any desktop, but started from the base installation and installed manually xorg, jwm, menu and lxdm. Now, looking for lxsession-

[DNG] missing linefeed in libffi6:amd64

2016-06-13 Thread emninger
Trying to install the gtk2 engines i' am getting the following error msg: - There is missing a final linefeed in the filelisting file of the package E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpgk returned an error code (2) - ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.or

[DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

2016-06-14 Thread emninger
Hi all. I have an urgent problem with the Devuan Jessie 1.0 installer: When it comes to install the basic system at a certain point the installation stops with an error. On console 4 i see the following error msg: . dpkg: error processing package rsyslog (--configure): dependency problems -

Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

2016-06-14 Thread emninger
Am Tue, 14 Jun 2016 18:08:50 + schrieb Paweł Cholewiński : > Hi, > could You reproduce this error with another install? If yes, are there > any other errors before package dependency problem with libjson-c2 on > console4? > > Regards, > Paweł I can reproduce this error with any install from

Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

2016-06-14 Thread emninger
Am Tue, 14 Jun 2016 14:22:41 + schrieb Florian Zieboll : > From tty 2 or 3, you can wget that missing library, then move the deb > to /target and chroot there to install it manually. > > libre Grüße, > > Florian Hi Florian! I tried it that way but it did not work. I was prompted by the msg

Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

2016-06-15 Thread emninger
Am Wed, 15 Jun 2016 01:26:45 + schrieb dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org: Hi Robert! > Note that my following comments apply only to a graphical install, > full-desktop version, which is actually the only kind I've attempted > so I can't say what would happen with a minimal install in > text-mode...

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 21, Issue 70

2016-06-15 Thread emninger
Am Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:16:48 + schrieb dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org: Hi Simon! > Since it is a universal OS. I would suggest we disable the graphical > installer if it causing people to be put off. This may sound like > heresy, but the text base installer is not minimal and it is fully > fun

Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

2016-06-15 Thread emninger
The following reply escaped me without editing the subject and the author line. Please simply delete it or at least do not regard it. Sorry for the mistake! :-( Am Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:16:48 + schrieb Simon Walter : Hi Simon! > Since it is a universal OS. I would suggest we disable the graphi

Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

2016-06-15 Thread emninger
Am Wed, 15 Jun 2016 01:26:45 + schrieb Robert Storey : Hi Robert! > Note that my following comments apply only to a graphical install, > full-desktop version, which is actually the only kind I've attempted > so I can't say what would happen with a minimal install in > text-mode... > > I've g

Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

2016-06-15 Thread emninger
Am Wed, 15 Jun 2016 01:26:45 + schrieb : > i Florian! I tried it that way but it did not work. I was prompted by > the msg that libjson-c2 does not exist. May be it's provided by > another package but i did not succeed in finding it out :-( > > In the meantime, i tried another way: The instru

Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

2016-06-15 Thread emninger
Since we discussed in irc also about the installer problems (i have, but others, at least partly share) i thought it might be a good idea to describe exactly what i did and tried: I use the installer cd I used both, graphical and text mode installer, so far no difference. I chose several langua

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