Am Sat, 14 May 2016 11:21:02 +0000 schrieb Steve Litt <sl...@troubleshooters.com>
> On Sat, 14 May 2016 00:13:28 +0200 > <emnin...@riseup.net> wrote: > > > > 4) As for the desktop: On another machine i use Manjaro JWM Open-RC > > - and from a functional (and esthetical!) point of view it's > > marvellous. > > JWM is wonderful. Extremely low memory, very fast performance. I > reviewed it here: > > http://troubleshooters.com/lpm/201406/201406.htm#jwm > > The only problem I had with it was visual cues during window > switching. If you got it to look esthetical, you know quite a bit more > about it than I do. > > Do you know if JWM enables one to configure hotkeys to run programs, > such as running xterm when you press F5 or whatever? This is the keys file of Manjaro JWM OpenRC edition (you'll find the iso on the manjaro site) ------- <?xml version="1.0"?> <JWM> <!-- Key bindings. --> <Key key="Up">up</Key> <Key key="Down">down</Key> <Key key="Right">right</Key> <Key key="Left">left</Key> <Key key="h">left</Key> <Key key="j">down</Key> <Key key="k">up</Key> <Key key="l">right</Key> <Key key="Return">select</Key> <Key key="Escape">escape</Key> <!-- Key window. --> <Key mask="A" key="Tab">nextstacked</Key> <Key mask="A" key="F4">close</Key> <Key mask="A" key="#">desktop#</Key> <Key mask="A" key="F2">window</Key> <Key mask="A" key="F10">maximize</Key> <Key mask="CA" key="Right">rdesktop</Key> <Key mask="CA" key="Left">ldesktop</Key> <Key mask="SA" key="Right">sendr</Key> <Key mask="SA" key="Left">sendl</Key> <!-- Key applications. --> <Key mask="4" key="w">exec:firefox</Key> <Key mask="4" key="e">exec:pcmanfm</Key> <Key mask="4" key="r">exec:gmrun</Key> <Key mask="4" key="t">exec:sakura</Key> <Key mask="4" key="d">showdesktop</Key> <Key mask="4" key="m">exec:gnome-mplayer</Key> <Key mask="4" key="x">exec:scrot -e 'mv $f ~/Screenshots' && sleep 1 && notify-send 'Screenshot has been saved in ~/Screenshots'</Key> <!-- Key system. --> <Key mask="4" key="F1">root:3</Key> <Key mask="4" key="p">exec:xterm -T Pacli /usr/bin/pacli</Key> <Key mask="4" key="j">exec:xterm -T JWMConf /usr/bin/jwmconf</Key> <Key mask="4" key="l">exec:i3lock -c bfc674</Key> <Key mask="4" key="u">exec:jwm -restart</Key> <!-- Key sound. --> <Key mask="4" key="Next">exec:amixer set Master 5%- </Key> <Key mask="4" key="Prior">exec:amixer set Master 5%+ </Key> <Key mask="4" key="0">exec:amixer set Master toggle</Key> <!-- Key toggle. --> <Key mask="4" key="Up">maxtop</Key> <Key mask="4" key="Down">maxbottom</Key> <Key mask="4" key="Left">maxleft</Key> <Key mask="4" key="Right">maxright</Key> </JWM> ---------- Btw, you may note the jwmconf file, which is a nice ncurses utility to configure easily jwm. Here i link you some images of the look and feel of their jwm (holmes, a brasilian, does a phantastic job!): https://old.forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=33909.0 https://old.forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=32847.0 https://old.forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=32683.0 (this is the look of the systemd version, but it's simple to transport; not any dependency with systemd ;) ). As for me, i was testing jwm for a lubuntu version intended for g3 / g4 macintosh. At the time being, we had problems with the option rounded corners. But that was it. > > > Why not as default desktop for Devuan? > > I think (and I could be wrong) that the Devuan project gets closer to > the metal than Debian, but not as close as Slackware. JWM would be > perfect for slackware, I would think. I'm not sure what you mean by "closer to the metal" (sorry, not a native here ;) )? It's curious, my linux parcour was netbsd on a mk68 Mac, Ubuntu then, but getting annoyed i went crunchbang substituting openbox by fluxbox then siduction and as they went systemd i looked for alternatives and used slackware the last 2,3 years, in a setup very close to crunchbang (always with fluxbox). And i waited eagerly for a viable Devuan (which now seems to be there). > > I just downloaded the Devuan JWM package. Of course it still ran > lxsession on boot. So I changed /etc/rc5.d/S3slim to Z3slim, but same > thing. I had to put an "exit 0" on top of /etc/init.d/slim, and then > make an ~/.xinitrc like this: > > #!/bin/sh > exec jwm > > It ran jwm after I ran startx, but without the nice Devuan wallpaper. > I assume something like the following needs to be done in .xinitrc: > > #!/bin/sh > gconftool-2 --set /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop --type > boolean false > sh /usr/local/wallpaper/fehbg.command & > exec dwm > > In the preceding, fehbg.command looks something like this: > > feh --bg-scale "/wherever/devuan_wallpaper.png" > > Somebody should tell instructions for how to modify slim to use jwm > directly on bootup. Good point! At least you could do F1 to switch between what is in /usr/share/xsessions. My question rather is: my ~.xinitrc was (is) empty. Is that by default? > Be aware that Devuan's JWM package is horribly debianized. You need to > go through two useless levels of menus (one that's just "debian") > before you get to the stuff you really want. It's a shame the Debian > product has screwed up such a nice window manager, but I can't say I'm > surprised: I've been seeing them screwing up nice, simple programs > (including my VimOutliner) for years. > > So if you want a Devuan JWM package, you might want to make it > yourself rather than use Debian's. Frankly, i do not have any problem with "stealing" the nice settings of manjaro, you can see here: https://old.forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=33049.msg273858#msg273858 Btw,it's possible to use icons in the jwm menu and to use an xdg-menugenerator, which instantaneously updates the menu according to new programs you install (or remove). If there is any interest, would be fun for me to help (for what i can do, hey, i'm not a programmer nor a power user) someone skilled to build up a viable and gracious jwm desktop for devuan. Cheers. _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
