On 04/23/2016 10:54 AM, Go Linux wrote:
On Fri, 4/22/16, Simon Walter wrote:
What is the reason people use CentOS? It's in the name and Cpanel is evidence.
I think that people use Centos to avoid the cost of an expensive support
contract with Redhat.
But still have the cozy fe
On 04/23/2016 12:14 PM, Go Linux wrote:
On Fri, 4/22/16, Simon Walter wrote:
Subject: Re: [DNG] M$ Linux-frendly
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Friday, April 22, 2016, 9:28 PM
On 04/23/2016 10:54 AM, Go Linux wrote:
On Fri, 4/22/16, Simon Walter wrote:
What is the reason people
On 04/23/2016 04:20 PM, aitor_czr wrote:
On 04/22/2016 11:17 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
In my opinion there's no magic line where things on one side are window
>managers and things on the other side are desktop environments. I think
>we can all agree that Unity, KDE and Gnome are desktop environment
On April 26, 2016 4:36:04 AM GMT+09:00, Mitt Green
wrote:
> aitor_czr wrote:
>
>> Seeing that the kde project switched to
>> cmake i guess it might be not so ugly aswell.
>
>I suppose, KDE shouldn't be a role model :)
>
> KatolaZ wrote:
>> Seeing that 90% of free software uses autohell
>>
On April 26, 2016 2:37:42 AM GMT+09:00, KatolaZ wrote:
>On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 05:36:44PM +0100, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
>> kato...@freaknet.org writes:
>> >Seeing that 90% of free software uses autohell I guess it might be
>not
>> >so ugly :)
>>
>> That's the Microsoft Windows argument: "Seei
On 04/28/2016 09:28 AM, fsmithred wrote:
You could get the label from lsblk, do 'pmount label' and it will be
mounted at /media/label. Every time you plug in a thumb drive labeled
backup, it'll go to the same place. If you unmount the drive, /media/label
will no longer exist, so you could even h
On 04/29/2016 04:53 AM, p wrote:
Thanks for beta :)
Yes! Thank you! It's good to see devuan.org now goes to beta.devuan.org.
Good stuff.
On 04/29/2016 05:24 AM, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote:
When you will come out devuan jessie v1.0.0-beta_i386_CD.iso?
Me too. I need this for visuali
Mitt Green wrote:
>> The current init system is old. Ancient.
>> We should all agree on it. Devuan is looking
>> for a new init system that is not systemd and my
>> personal choice for this task from now on is
>> Gentoo's OpenRC.
>
> Unix is old. Ancient. We should all agree on it.
> Devuan is
KatolaZ wrote:
> Many people have kept wheezy on their production
> servers to see what happens with systemd in Jessie. And might prefer
> to migrate to Devuan eventually, if it has proved to be a credible
> option.
Put me down in that camp. I've a lot of systems on Wheezy - plus a few on older
Jaromil wrote:
>> Instead of an openRC effort at this point, I'd rather see a hook
>> for apt-get / aptitude / etc, to move all files specific to init
>> systems not being used to their own file hierarchies, eg.
>>
>> /var/cache/init-systems
>>/sysvinit
>> /etc
>> /lib
>> /us
Steve Litt wrote:
> There's a special place in hell for people using ambiguous
> abbreviations, acronyms, and nicknames.
You mean, like the whole IT industry - and in fact pretty well any industry ?
Such terms are routinely used because they make speech and writing less
verbose. I did my appre
Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> But leaving these two general remarks aside, I don't quite understand
> what you wanted to express.
That "freedom of choice" is very important - as demonstrated by two posts
setting out the reason why (for the poster's situation) the correct option is
both one way and
On 05/05/2016 03:18 AM, Stephanie Daugherty wrote:
Process supervision is something I'm very opinionated about. In a
number of high availability production environments, its a necessary
evil.
However, it should *never* be an out of the box default for any
network-exposed service, Service fa
Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Some may think I am insane, but sometimes even the company of a four
> legged friend can be beneficial.
Not at all, ours is just coming up to 2 year old now. It's fairly widely
accepted that pets can be very therapeutic.
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On 05/05/2016 11:11 PM, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
Simon Walter writes:
[...]
On 05/05/2016 05:45 AM, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
It greatly reduces the number of "low-quality" (or rather, "no quality")
bug reports I receive as I don't (usually) get frantic phone calls
Go Linux wrote:
>
At the risk of dragging on this OT thread longer than it would have lasted ...
I can understand that you consider the topic inappropriate for the list. But
generally I'd considered this list a friendly place, where a certain amount of
'banter' would be tolerated.
In this c
On 05/06/2016 08:05 PM, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
Simon Walter writes:
On 05/05/2016 11:11 PM, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
Simon Walter writes:
[...]
On 05/05/2016 05:45 AM, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
It greatly reduces the number of "low-quality" (or rather, "no quality")
bug
Peter Olson wrote:
> So I cleared out another partition and moved the backup of my Debian 8.3 onto
> it. Ran update-grub, which found the backup in its new location.
>
> But, when I try to boot it grub is confused and is pinned to the old UUID of
> the
> root filesystem. (I have already updat
On May 9, 2016 7:40:50 PM GMT+09:00, Jaromil wrote:
>
>TL;DR some people find it cozy to stay here, therefore dng will keep
>existing, but if you don't like it, there are more options with less
>"noise".
>
>
>On Mon, 09 May 2016, Teodoro Santoni wrote:
>
>> In this mailing list there has been a
emnin...@riseup.net wrote:
> Please do not take my question wrong (probably i am missing something):
> If it's that way, how can devuan then rely on debian as for packages
> etc.? At least in a forseeable future ... ?
The thing is that Debian is already there, pretty well complete, and the
major
On 05/28/2016 09:55 PM, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
This means the leading sentence would be more appropriately worded as
"In my opinion, it's actually quite strange that UNIX(*) enables users
of the system to run background jobs".
Well put!
On 05/29/2016 02:48 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
I see poette
On 05/29/2016 03:20 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote:
After all, it is money that counts.
I am of the opinion that it is veracity that counts. I am also of the
opinion that there are many who share the previous opinion with me.
Therefore not all software will cater to the ignorant.
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On 05/29/2016 04:13 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote:
Hi,
The last statement is not an expression of my opinion but sadly what
the majority think. Yes, I too hold the belief that 'veracity' is of
prime importance.
Edward, I am glad you clarified that and I am glad to be in such good
company!
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On 06/02/2016 12:10 AM, Go Linux wrote:
On Wed, 6/1/16, hellekin wrote:
Subject: Re: [DNG] What's the correct place for backgrounds, wallpapers etc.
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Wednesday, June 1, 2016, 1:23 AM
You may also install desktop themes in your user's $HOME: ~/.themes/foo
Steve Litt wrote:
> My opinion: If the init specification of a daemon exceeds 25 lines,
> that's a problem. Many sysvinit and OpenRC daemon init specifications
> are over 100 lines, especially if you take into account all the stuff
> imported from the "functions" file. I never want one of those l
ip in
coordination with /etc/network/interfaces? Or shall I use ifup?
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is nothing hidden that will not be
revealed." Which is why open source trumps closed source. Which is why
many people see through Redhat and their greedy moves.
Here is another little "fact" I came across:
https://wiki.debian.org/LXC#Incompatibility_with_systemd
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On 06/03/2016 06:45 AM, Jaromil wrote:
> however this is all abstract speculation now. I'm not even sure we'll
> make such a big change in testing. most people and organizations
> switching to Devuan today (me included) are in need of a system that
> does not change their workflow arbitrarily.
On
On 06/03/2016 04:43 PM, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 08:56:50AM +0900, Simon Walter wrote:
>> I am working on some cdist scripts for setting up some network interfaces.
>>
>> So far I am modifying the /etc/network/interfaces and then bring down
>> a
rface.d/* line in the
interfaces file. Then route with iptables between the a physical NIC
(eth0 for example) and the virtual NIC (tap0) and have all the
containers connected to br0.
Are there any glaring problems with this setup?
Thanks everyone again for all the advice and explanations.
Si
On 06/04/2016 04:27 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
I always feel a lot better when I can singlehandedly fix what goes
wrong with my possessions.
Here here! Give this man a beer! I usually use both hands, but I do know
what you mean.
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Florian Zieboll wrote:
> Seriously, what else besides dependencies on other daemons that have to
> be running and some testing for the existence of certain (everything is)
> files would be necessary to pass to a parser script, which could be
> packaged with the respective init system?
Are we in
Steve Litt wrote:
> In all daemontools-inspired process supervisors, dependency handling,
> if you indeed need it, is just this easy:
>
> ==
> #!/bin/sh
> if ping ; then
> exec /path/to/app_depending_on_network
> fi
> sleep 1
> ===
Florian Zieboll wrote:
> i was not talking about replacing sysvinit's shellscripts, but suggest
> to implement a routine that creates them "on the fly" on installation
> of a new daemon, from /one/ init-independent "meta" configuration file,
> packaged with the daemon.
OK, my experience in this
On 06/04/2016 09:39 PM, Didier Kryn wrote:
Le 04/06/2016 14:00, Nate Bargmann a écrit :
* On 2016 04 Jun 04:52 -0500, Jaromil wrote:
On Fri, 03 Jun 2016, Joel Roth wrote:
My system is devuan/jessie, upgraded from debian.
It's interesting that 'man init' brings up the
systemd man page.
stran
On 06/05/2016 12:16 AM, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
Simon Walter writes:
[...]
I am adding containers (LXC) and
virtual network to the box, I think I will add an tap and bridge
interface to an /etc/network/interface.d/ file. If I use something
like:
auto br0
iface br0 inet static
pre-up ip
On 06/06/2016 08:48 PM, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
Simon Walter writes:
On 06/05/2016 12:16 AM, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
Simon Walter writes:
[...]
I am adding containers (LXC) and
virtual network to the box, I think I will add an tap and bridge
interface to an /etc/network/interface.d/ file
Simon Walter wrote:
>> You don't need the tap port for that, the bridge will happily work
>> without any ports statically assigned to it.
>
> And will I be able to set up iptables with just the bridge? I was thinking of
> using shorewall. I've never used it
Adam, Rainer, Simon,
Thanks guys. I thought I knew what I was doing, but now I think I might
be able to execute this better with all of your advice.
Cheers,
Simon
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On 06/07/2016 05:45 AM, Jim Murphy wrote:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Klaus Hartnegg wrote:
All programmers please read this, and treat it as a list of things not to do.
https://lists.dns-oarc.net/pipermail/dns-operations/2016-June/014964.html
Systemd manages to shoot itself in the foot,
On 06/07/2016 02:45 PM, emnin...@riseup.net wrote:
Finally i succeeded in installing a devuan ascii into qemu (running on
an archlinux openrc system).
And here too, i noticed that the debian installer is somehow "extreme"
in using ressources. Note this is *NOT* an amd graphics based machine
but
it differently. Though
I don't think you need to include such a notice in your source code. If
you are naming it the same and calling it a Python version, then maybe
coordinate with the original author. That's just my opinion. I am not a
lawyer.
Simon
_
ch of that the you es ay spy agencies were involved is speculation.
I'd love it if some info was leaked. It would cause everyone to be much
more critical, think twice, and review code more.
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Steve Litt wrote:
> I'm all for corporations making money. I get paid, why shouldn't they?
Indeed. I find it "interesting" to hear some people suggesting they shouldn't
have to pay for anything - and think that if anyone suggested they shouldn't
get paid for whatever they do/produce then they
KatolaZ wrote:
> Despite being originally intended as a "guerrilla weapon" (and RMS and
> the others were very careful at designing it), copyleft is indeed the
> only way to keep free software free, forever.
Indeed.
I've heard a few descriptions of RMS - most of them uncomplimentary. Having met
On 06/07/2016 06:59 PM, Simon Hobson wrote:
Steve Litt wrote:
I'm all for corporations making money. I get paid, why shouldn't they?
Indeed. I find it "interesting" to hear some people suggesting they shouldn't
have to pay for anything - and think that if anyone sug
On 06/07/2016 07:38 PM, emnin...@riseup.net wrote:
Am Tue, 07 Jun 2016 08:33:08 +
schrieb Simon Walter :
I have not noticed this. What are the models of your notebook
computers?
You could do everyone a favour and debug it a little. Do you know
which process was spinning the CPU?
a
On 06/08/2016 12:15 PM, Simon Walter wrote:
On 06/07/2016 07:38 PM, emnin...@riseup.net wrote:
Am Tue, 07 Jun 2016 08:33:08 +
schrieb Simon Walter :
I have not noticed this. What are the models of your notebook
computers?
You could do everyone a favour and debug it a little. Do you know
On 06/07/2016 09:35 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 15:31:31 +0900, Simon wrote in message
<57566a43.4050...@gikaku.com>:
On 06/07/2016 02:51 PM, Hughe Chung wrote:
I've been porting an Open Source program to Python 3.4 for my
personal use. The original source code w
On 06/08/2016 07:49 PM, KatolaZ wrote:
[sorry for the long reply]
Very well put.
Killing all the processes at logout should be easily doable using
cgroups (which existed much before Poettering got his bachelor
degree), and is indeed easily doable with screen, nohup, and hundred
of similar am
Jack L. Frost wrote:
> Yeah, I was going to say that too: a rewrite in another language is a
> completely new piece of software ...
I wouldn't be too sure.
It will vary considerably on the details.
At one extreme, you look at what the original is doing and write new code to do
the same manipula
Edward Bartolo wrote:
> One strategy would be to deny
> server access to anyone not using systemd. This would force Devuan to
> set up an entirely independent infrastructure. I think, this may do
> some serious disruption: be prepared as Devuan is not yet totally
> divorced from Debian.
I suspec
On 06/09/2016 07:07 AM, Dan Purgert wrote:
Didier Kryn wrote:
[snip]
I cite:
"Systemd and cgroup developers are working together to turn systemd into a
global cgroup manager that creates higher-level control knobs and prevents
direct access to the kernel. Many Systemd changes are already r
t for you. You don't
need options. I know how everyone will use the machine." These guys just
want to be worshiped. They don't play well with the other kids.
Simon
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Simon Walter wrote:
> After some testing, I have a question about an option in
> /etc/default/shorewall:
> wait_interface
> If I add the bridge interface to that line, shorewall will not start unless a
> container is brought up. I suppose that is why I was thinking of bridgin
On 06/09/2016 10:24 PM, Simon Hobson wrote:
Or I could do as Mr. Hobson does and run shorewall in a container. Would that actually be
a more insulated "secure" approach?
"Security" is a relative thing, and depends on your priorities. Putting the
firewall in it&#x
ty 38400 tty4 linux
p6::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/init 6
p0::powerfail:/sbin/init 0
EOF
Hence there is a bug about LXC containers not working with systemd yet.
So maybe this is a good base and just the MIRROR needs changing.
Kind regards,
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seem to be a problem.
I then modified the containters config and network settings and it
started and seems to work fine.
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ssage to say the device does not exist.
I am a bit confused about the distros relationship with ifupdown. Isn't
/etc/network/interfaces Debian specific? So I am guessing the ifup/down
is a different program on say CentOS. I should try to stay relevant even
though I use mostly Devaun now.
C
On 06/10/2016 05:11 PM, KatolaZ wrote:
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 12:41:36PM +0900, Simon Walter wrote:
Hi all,
I am wondering if it is a good idea to submit a modified version of the
debian template to the upstream LXC project.
I am not sure who wrote those scripts. It seems like that is part
On 06/10/2016 05:35 PM, Simon Walter wrote:
On 06/10/2016 05:11 PM, KatolaZ wrote:
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 12:41:36PM +0900, Simon Walter wrote:
Hi all,
I am wondering if it is a good idea to submit a modified version of the
debian template to the upstream LXC project.
I am not sure who
On 06/10/2016 06:16 PM, Jaromil wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Simon Walter wrote:
I will give the templates a go now.
thanks!
I am going to try Greg's template on the BETA release.
My simple edit on the alpha4 worked fine, but Greg's templates didn't
work as well. So I am t
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> How *do* we deal with secure boot? I am terrified of buying a new
> machine because I'm afraid I won't get to install anything on it
> wxcept for an OS from one of the big companies that have
> sweetheart deals with Microsoft.
Well (under UK law at least, other EU coun
Didier Kryn wrote:
> The dealer will just be instructed to not sell it to people who claim they
> will do anything else than using the pre-installed Windows.
Eventually yes.
But it will make their management aware of us for them to issue the instruction.
But bear in mind that a lot of the "sal
Edward Bartolo wrote:
> I have been 'told' that any kernel can still be booted under UEFI
> Secure Boot.
For now, how long until that changes ?
> Refer to forums.debian.net thread:
> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=609579&sid=c65ab3dc5f980e0c1f79b7b7a5116511#p609579
And as pointed out
On 06/10/2016 10:39 PM, Greg Olsen wrote:
On 2016-06-10 08:59, Simon Walter wrote:
[snip]
> > I will give the templates a go now.
I had some issues:
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LANGUAGE = "en_US:en"
I tried to use some other apps like LilDebian, DebianKit, and
LinuxDeploy, but for some reason they didn't work for installing Debian.
So I didn't try Devuan.
It's nice to have Devuan on my portable computing device.
Thank you,
Simon
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Edward Bartolo wrote:
> But I still am convinced with a signed kernel one can still use it to
> boot any installed OS. My reasoning goes like this: once the signed
> kernel boots, it would be in control of the machine. A running kernel
> can be used to run any executable provided the latter is co
On 06/14/2016 09:26 AM, Greg Olsen wrote:
On 2016-06-13 01:28, Simon Walter wrote:
[snip]
> > This might be a bit surprising but I actually wrote lxc-devuan with
> > *non-Devuan* OS's in mind. To not discourage people from running
Devuan,
> > it automatically
Hi Greg,
I've read had a look and a test. Please see my ramblings below. I am in
no hurry. So please take your time. ;)
On 06/14/2016 10:02 AM, Greg Olsen wrote:
On 2016-06-14 00:39, Simon Walter wrote:
> Well, maybe I didn't say it correctly. Is there already a devuan-keyri
On 06/15/2016 10:26 AM, Greg Olsen wrote:
On 2016-06-14 09:22, Simon Walter wrote:
> I think that maybe you read my email too fast. So I will try to be
verbose.
Hi Simon,
If I misread then I apologize.
No need to!
...
>
> Also I notice gcc-4.8-base is being removed towards t
se a mouse for everything, are we?
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(internal network speed) and saves
bandwidth usage for the Devuan community.
I think this would be really useful and professional.
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On 06/15/2016 08:52 PM, emnin...@riseup.net wrote:
We are not so spoiled that we need to use a mouse for everything, are
we?
Simon
My problem (the failure while installing the base system) happens in
both, the graphical and the text mode installer.
I'd suspect there's something
On 06/18/2016 10:31 AM, Greg Olsen wrote:
...
In the meantime, I added Simon Walter as a Developer for lxc-devuan.
Simon,
As a developer you can push directly to the main development branch. I
added a "draft" Contribution guide, and I'll be following the same
process myself as
Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> This is published here in the hope that it is useful for someting.
>
> The basic design of udev is similar to that of a forking server: There's
> a parent process listening for uevents from the kernel on a netlink
> socket which passes these events to worker processes fo
On 06/20/2016 07:28 AM, Greg Olsen wrote:
Hi Simon,
No rush. Unless I find some glaring bug, after a bit more testing I
intend to refocus on pushing upstream and what's needed to make
"lxc-devuan" packages for Jessie/Ascii/Ceres. It'll be the first .deb
package I've mad
Steve Litt wrote:
> Of all the escapades of FreeDesktop.Org, managers of Lennart and the
> Redhats, these name thingies are some of the least onerous. I put a
> shellscript on the list a few months ago that delivers the wifi device
> name, and that script can be used in init scripts and the like.
On 06/21/2016 05:28 PM, KatolaZ wrote:
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 08:22:41AM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote:
[cut]
I studied 'and' and 'or' boolean operators back when I studied Delphi
Pascal. I am embarrassed to have written such a stupid thing. It must
be due to the fact I wrote the email just
KatolaZ wrote:
> Be careful, because conditional expressions in C are subject to
> "short-circuiting", meaning that only the minimum number of
> expressions sufficient to determine the value of a chain of && and ||
> will be evaluated. In particular, a chain of || expressions will be
> evaluated
On 06/21/2016 06:09 PM, KatolaZ wrote:
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 05:47:59PM +0900, Simon Walter wrote:
[cut]
Be careful, because conditional expressions in C are subject to
"short-circuiting", meaning that only the minimum number of
expressions sufficient to determine the value of
Irrwahn wrote:
> We could. But it is a kludge, and very bad style.
Is this the right time to introduce ...
... wait for it ...
... you're probably not going to like it ...
... no spoilers ...
... it is "safe for work" ...
... unless your work is writing C code ...
http://www.io
An interesting task would be to look at the various algorithms offered, work
out how the compiler is likely to handle them when turning into code (or even
look at the code generated), and then work out the efficiency of the different
methods in terms of CPU cycles/character.
Of course, it's poss
Steve Litt wrote:
> Good point. Here in my house, I trust everyone with a physical console,
> so individual computers have simple or no firewalls.
I'm running servers where you have to assume everyone is out to get you.
> My Internet
> firewall is pFSense, and every once in a while I use OpenBS
Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>> All in all, the easiest way by far is to use stable and user(admin)
>> set names for interfaces !
>
> This is going to bite you in the posterior in case of canned OS
> installations intended to be usable on a wide range of differently
> configured 'servers' and not supp
Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> Lastly, if the target system is Linux (as here), one can safely assume
> that EBCDIC won't be used.
>
> None of this matter anyhow for solving algorithm exercises in an
> entry-level book about a programming language.
On the other hand, it might just give a newbie to C
Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>> If you just use the default kernel naming scheme then you open
>> yourself to the problem that udev was designed to solve - that of
>> random device names.
>
> If you'll neither believe me nor the code wrt causes these 'random
> device names', may I try some kind of aut
I wrote:
>> Unless the admin transfers the installation to another system. Assuming
>> that everything used to work fine with eth0 - eth3, all hell will
>> break lose because the sole four interfaces are now called eth4 - eth7.
>
> But the point is, the admin can then, with one simple edit, retur
Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> In absences of post hoc driver shuffling, these names *are not*
> random. But as that's clearly something you're not willing to believe
> in, this discussion seems pretty pointless.
I think we must be making assumptions about what each other are talking about -
you appe
Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> Reportedly, Linux hotplug already had the same problem.
OK, that's what I'd have been seeing in the past then.
> During initialization, the kernel walks through the bus or busses it
> finds in order to locate all devices and enables them by calling the
> responsible dri
On 06/23/2016 11:26 AM, Adam Borowski wrote:
...
[1]. Actually, the English alphabet had more letters: þ, ð, ƿ[2] and ȝ, but
they got dropped as early printing presses imported from Germany lacked
these characters. Before the technology was copied and fonts could be
manufactured domestically, th
Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> That's you're preferred set of workarounds.
I suspect that we're all in "violent agreement" that different users (or types
of users) have different preferences and priorities. In the general case there
is definitely an issue to be solved - just different approaches to
Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> I can neither count on being 'in control of hardware' nor on 'people
> editing configuration files'.
Then apologies, it appears I misunderstood your position.
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On 06/29/2016 08:14 PM, emnin...@riseup.net wrote:
Since we're so serious may be some fun is nice, making life
easier ... :) I stumbled upon this by chance and i liked it a lot (I
post the link although i think probably many of you know it already):
http://systemd-free.org/img/systemd-can.jpg
emnin...@riseup.net wrote:
> Since we're so serious may be some fun is nice, making life
> easier ... :) I stumbled upon this by chance and i liked it a lot (I
> post the link although i think probably many of you know it already):
>
> http://systemd-free.org/img/systemd-can.jpg
That lightened u
emnin...@riseup.net wrote:
> Dealing with a login (manager) problem, i looked into my /etc/inittab
> and i found this:
>
> ---
> # Note that on most Debian systems tty7 is used by the X Window System,
> # so if you want to add more getty's go ahead but skip tty7 if you run
> X. #
> 1:2345:respawn
On 07/07/2016 08:02 AM, Paweł Cholewiński wrote:
Hi,
during "apt-get update" error appear "Error
http://auto.mirror.devuan.org jessie-security/main amd64 Packages
Undetermined Error".
When I looked at
"http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/dists/jessie-security/"; address
has changed to
"http://am
On 07/08/2016 08:13 AM, Daniel Reurich wrote:
On 08/07/16 03:28, Jaromil wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jul 2016, hellekin wrote:
On 07/06/2016 11:02 PM, Paweł Cholewiński wrote:
Hi,
during "apt-get update" error appear "Error
http://auto.mirror.devuan.org jessie-security/main amd64 Packages
Undetermined
hink "name and shame" is appropriate with this level of depravity. If
we can't trust them, word should get out the their opinions are bought.
That is my free opinion ;)
Simon
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