Re: [DNG] sane-utils depends on libsystemd0

2017-05-10 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
n there no need to play nice with something that isn't there, so passing --without-systemd to ./configure is perfectly fine and will skip any systemd checks. Not specifying the option will check for systemd but should disable the systemd support when not found. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuw

[DNG] [Q] Devuan on HP Zbook Studio G3 Mobile Workstation

2017-05-19 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
which is fine with me. If need be, running with ascii would be acceptable (I've been using stretch for ages :-). Thanks in advance for any information you can provide, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F

Re: [DNG] [Q] Devuan on HP Zbook Studio G3 Mobile Workstation

2017-05-19 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, fsmithred writes: > On 05/19/2017 09:39 AM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Looking at the device mentioned in the subject for use at the office >> with Devuan. If anyone has any experience with this device, I'd like to >> know. Installation

Re: [DNG] trash

2017-05-29 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
ot;, it's a compile-time option. To get rid of the Depends:, you will need to drop libsystemd-dev (and maybe dh-systemd) from the debian/control file and rebuild the package. That's all. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27

Re: [DNG] [Q] Devuan on HP Zbook Studio G3 Mobile Workstation

2017-06-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi all, Olaf Meeuwissen writes: > Hi, > > fsmithred writes: > >> On 05/19/2017 09:39 AM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Looking at the device mentioned in the subject for use at the office >>> with Devuan. If anyone has

Re: [DNG] [Q] Devuan on HP Zbook Studio G3 Mobile Workstation

2017-06-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Edward, Edward Bartolo writes: > Quoting Olaf Meeuwissen from preceding post: > "I didn't have to do any of the things mentioned in the forum post above." > > For the sake of clarity which disk format did you use: MBR or GPT? > That forum thread makes it clear

[DNG] Full disk encryption (was Re: some ASCII issues)

2017-06-29 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
ther install of the same OS; and there isn't any reason to encrypt > something which is published and widespread. Hmm, /var/ is arguably not part of the rest of the OS. Ditto for /srv/, /opt/ and /usr/local/. But then again, who uses those. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2

Re: [DNG] systemd allows elevated access from unit files?

2017-07-04 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
sysadmin wrote and running as root. The security conscious call that privilege escalation. Anyone capable of putting such a unit file on your system(d) will own your box as soon as the service runs. > But hey, that's why we are here on Devuan. Indeed. -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2

Re: [DNG] systemd allows elevated access from unit files?

2017-07-05 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, Adam Borowski writes: > On Tue, Jul 04, 2017 at 08:14:40PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> Evilham writes: >> > Hi there, >> > >> > Am 03/07/2017 um 16:08 schrieb dev: >> >> "So, yeah, I don't think there's anything to f

Re: [DNG] A problem with a license

2017-07-05 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
e non-compliant with the basic freedom 0. We > would like suggestions as of whether the clause should be removed or > the package should go in Devuan/non-free (I can't see any other5B > alternative). Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since

Re: [DNG] systemd allows elevated access from unit files?

2017-07-06 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Simon, Simon Hobson writes: > Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > >> No idea whether systemd services run by non-system users makes sense but >> then again, lots of systemd probably doesn't make much sense. > > Do you mean "systemd service" as in "somethi

Re: [DNG] VBScript Injection via GNOME Thumbnailer

2017-07-19 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
7367 867778 867721 864273 864274 867806 868264 > # 868184 867810 867808 867811 867812 867896 867798 867821 > # 867824 867825 867826 867893 867823 867894 867897 Totally untested, but you might try to replace imagemagick with graphicsmagick. It's at deb8

Re: [DNG] VBScript Injection via GNOME Thumbnailer

2017-07-20 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, Adam Borowski writes: > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 08:28:25PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> Adam Borowski writes: >> > On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:07:35PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: >> >> Actually, imagemagick is one of worst offenders here. The version in &

Re: [DNG] High level language primitives [ was Please keep 32-bits alive]

2017-07-29 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
nt > - what else? Software would be Free as in freedom. -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the

Re: [DNG] KVM + QEMU on Devuan 1.0

2017-07-29 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
tps://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie/virtual/ I'm looking at using this on Devuan to play around with d1h when I get the time. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 S

Re: [DNG] Scanner and sane-utils

2017-08-05 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
scanner should be assigned an appropriate group by the rules in /lib/udev/rules.d/60-libsane.rules which run /bin/setfacl -m g:scanner:rw $env{DEVNAME} You can check whether this happened with the getfacl command. What scanner are you using? Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2F

Re: [DNG] Scanner and sane-utils

2017-08-07 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, viverna writes: > il devuanizzato Olaf Meeuwissen il 06/08/17 alle > ore 03:06 ha scritto: >> Hi, >> >> viverna writes: >> >> > Hello folks, >> > I'm a new Devuan user (from Debian) from few week. >> > In Debian world I had a

Re: [DNG] suggestion

2017-08-17 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
#x27;update_pciids' utility > in /usr/sbin. > After running that everything got more clear for me. > > "RUN the 'update_pciids' utility as part of the installation process > on the target!" Ditto for update-usbids, modulo most of what has been mentioned in

Re: [DNG] How to use golang-1.7?

2017-08-18 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
mething like go-1.7 and symlink go with something suitable (or not as seems to be your case). Failing that, I'd head over to /usr/share/doc/golang-1.7/ for a more info like a README.Debian or README, whatever. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-2

Re: [DNG] Security updates in Devuan

2017-09-07 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
lled: (none) Candidate: 2.4.10-10+deb8u10 Version table: 2.4.10-10+deb8u10 0 500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-security/main amd64 Packages 2.4.10-10+deb8u9 0 500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie/main amd64 Packages This matches what is

Re: [DNG] Docker on Devuan?

2017-09-07 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
evuan/ I basically just use the vendor provided package for Debian. Works fine so far. I've also put together a Devuan base image and have a few issues[2] that I plan to work on in the not too distant future. [2]: https://gitlab.com/paddy-hack/devuan/issues Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeu

Re: [DNG] Docker on Devuan?

2017-09-08 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, goli...@dyne.org writes: > On 2017-09-07 07:22, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> Hi Ozi, >> >> Ozi Traveller writes: >> >>> Just wondering whether anyone has managed to get docker installed on >>> Devuan? >>> >>> If so, how? And are y

Re: [DNG] docker images

2017-09-26 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
27;d like to replace my manually built chroot > on my notebook via docker, add another one for skype jail, etc. > For that it would be cool to have a well-maintained minimal base. > (for now, I still have lots of stuff on ubuntu and debian, which > I'd like to replace in the futur

Re: [DNG] Systemd-free => Gnome-free? [Was: Re: Gnome?

2017-09-27 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
s.list to track the Devuan releases you are willing to install from, e.g. jessie and ascii, and then something like sudo apt-get update for release in jessie ascii; do apt-get depends network-manager/$release | grep systemd done Much more authorative and up-to-date than IRC logs. Hope

Re: [DNG] ..weird net outage, and aptitude showed me 611 untrusted packages, was: New behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-28 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
is one cause. A successful update always fixed it. Another is truncated or missing Packages files which result from botched `apt-get update` runs. If `apt-get update` downloads all files without error, you should not see any mention of untrusted packages. # Assuming of course, that all your sourc

Re: [DNG] ID Quantique "Quantum" PCI-e RNG's - does anyone have more info?

2017-10-21 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
` package to keep my /dev/urandom "topped up" when randomizing disks. Greatly shortened the time needed to fill my disks. No idea about the quality of randomness, though. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-21 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
s enabled. It turned out that all my upgradable packages are from the backports suite. Slightly worrying is that a number of these are for devuan-ized packages. The 'pulseaudio' package you mentioned is one. Another that is probably trouble was 'reportbug'. The other (source) pa

Re: [DNG] Error after upgrade debian wheezy to devuan jessie...

2017-10-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
sbin/ldconfig.real, also an ELF binary. Both are unlikely to be directly responsible for the error message you posted. # Running Devuan jessie, BTW. I know it doesn't answer your question completely but hope this helps anyway, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member sinc

Re: [DNG] Virtualbox?

2017-10-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
office doesn't really work with a 3.16 kernel. # FTR, my test were done on old, decommissioned laptop where that 3.16 # kernel works like a charm :) Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F4

Re: [DNG] Runit for Devuan: was Debian testing drop redis

2017-11-02 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
r f in /sbin/shutdown /sbin/reboot; do mv -f $f $f.old done or something. Moreover, I think something like this would be better handled using Debian's alternatives mechanism. See `man update-alternatives` for details. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Membe

Re: [DNG] Virtualbox?

2017-11-04 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, fsmithred writes: > On 10/25/2017 08:05 AM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> Using the virtualbox package from either jessie (4.3.36-dfsg-1+deb8u1) >> or jessie-backports (5.1.8-dfsg-6~bpo8+2) with a stock linux-image-amd64 >> (3.16+63) from jessie works fine. That is, it in

Re: [DNG] Virtualbox?

2017-11-06 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Gregory, Gregory Nowak writes: > On Sun, Nov 05, 2017 at 10:55:42AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> The only issue I have at the moment is that the box' clock runs behind >> at the pace of 20 seconds to the minute! That's despite the fact that >> both the h

[DNG] / on lvm2 volume (was Re: WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable)

2017-11-08 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
7;t > used a machine without the root filesystem being on a LVM type system > (VXVM in fact) since around 1998. I used to mount /usr read-only on my server machines but that quickly becomes a bore when you need to install security upgrades every so often. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, L

[DNG] [ANNOUNCE] Devuan Docker Base Images available

2017-11-08 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
/devuan/issues [6]: https://gitlab.com/paddy-hack/devuan/toggle_star Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my

Re: [DNG] / on lvm2 volume (was Re: WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable)

2017-11-09 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Rick, Rick Moen writes: > Quoting Olaf Meeuwissen (paddy-h...@member.fsf.org): > >> I used to mount /usr read-only on my server machines but that quickly >> becomes a bore when you need to install security upgrades every so >> often. > > Suggestion: Make r

Re: [DNG] Virtualbox?

2017-11-09 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, Following up on my own post. Olaf Meeuwissen writes: > Hi, > > Gregory Nowak writes: > >> On Mon, Nov 06, 2017 at 05:44:17PM -0500, zap wrote: > > # Actually, none of the quoted stuff was written by zap ;-) > >>> > I do have one question though, wh

Re: [DNG] epkowa backend for Perfection V100

2017-11-14 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
inux-libre kernel. There were no reports of the epson software trying > to install any headers during installation. However, I am not sure if > the iscan software only works through a GUI. The epkowa backend is, at least should be, usable with any SANE frontend, graphical or not. Matter of

Re: [DNG] epkowa backend for Perfection V100

2017-11-15 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
ite is needed to, doh!, communicate with the device. I forgot why Julien Blache decided to use setfacl but we discussed it for quite a bit IIRC. You might find this in the sane-devel archives. Anyway, the upshot of this is that doing an `ls -l` on the device does not tell the whole story. You&

Re: [DNG] upgrading from jessie to ascii

2017-11-17 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
eks (but probably a good while longer). $ apt-cache policy base-files base-files: Installed: 9.2+devuan7 Candidate: 9.2+devuan7 Version table: *** 9.2+devuan7 500 500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-20 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
ectory tarball and checked initscripts.postinst. Nothing changed and rc.local will still be created. Crying wolf like this time and again is not doing Devuan any good. FWIW, I just modified the /etc/rc.local on two of my Devuan ASCII machines to fix up ownership on an ext4 mount and that wor

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-21 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Jaromil, list, Jaromil writes: > dear Olaf, > > On Mon, 20 Nov 2017, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > >> Crying wolf like this time and again is not doing Devuan any good. > > No, I am the wolf. I do not mean this personally. I just recalled the mail that set off the redis

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
stem that runs it (and Devuan's `init` package should list it as a preferred alternative ;-) Any init systems that deviate from age old traditions, should, ideally, clearly document that. If they don't, cluebat their maintainers ;-) And for the masses that don't know what /

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
uld all practice a bit of restraint, do some minimal research and include references before making "wild claims". As a Debian Care Taker, you should perhaps take care even more ;-) > [...] Thanks and keep up the good work, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FS

Re: [DNG] Debian Busters latest kernel

2017-11-29 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
). > Having just checked my sid install there are no signs of apparmor being > a dependency for the kernel or for Samba. As Adam mentioned, its a Recommends: of the kernel but you may be left with a non-booting machine unless you pass an `apparmor=0` to the kernel at boot time. Hope this he

Re: [DNG] Debian Busters latest kernel

2017-11-30 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Dave, Cc:ing this to the list again, hope you don't mind. Dave Turner writes: > On 29/11/17 11:07, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> Hi Dave, >> >> Dave Turner writes: >> >>> On 27/11/17 21:58, Rowland Penny wrote: >>>> Hi, a guy has

Re: [DNG] Virtualbox?

2017-12-02 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
;s a few questions though, do you have other kernel images installed? Which kernel are you running when you try to install virtualbox? The following should help answering these dpkg-query -W | grep linux-image uname -a Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member

Re: [DNG] ascii an waiting for dhcp on boot

2017-12-06 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
, > for example when plugging in a USB network card. Please note that this does > not > have anything to do with detecting a network cable being plugged in.) > > Hm ... what to do about it? Any idea? Downgrade to 0.8.13? From the changelog for 0.8.14: * Ignore link stat

Re: [DNG] ascii an waiting for dhcp on boot

2017-12-07 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Svante, Svante Signell writes: > On Wed, 2017-12-06 at 20:08 +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> >> Downgrade to 0.8.13?From the changelog for 0.8.14: >> >> * Ignore link state when bringing up hotplug interfaces at boot. >> Closes: #814785, #834820 >> &g

Re: [DNG] eudev missing dependency

2017-12-28 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
dev/mtp-probe itself. This makes me believe that the message is actually not saying that mtp-probe cannot be found but that it can not (or no longer) find /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:14.0/usb3/3-4 for some reason. BTW, on my system libmtp-runtime appears to have been pulled in by vlc. Hope th

Re: [DNG] upgrade to ascii

2017-12-31 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
ading-devuan-from-jessie-to-ascii/ Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Fo

Re: [DNG] Should I, or should I not, make a Devuan VimOutliner package?

2018-01-10 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
venient for them. Upstream can use ,, as the hard-coded default and the Debian maintainer can simply plonk a system-wide configuration file in place. Since everyone seems to be donating ;-) that was my two yen. -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member si

Re: [DNG] upgrade to ascii

2018-01-15 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, KatolaZ writes: > On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 01:59:23PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> Hi, >> >> [...] I just upgraded >> myself using (almost) the same without any problems and blogged about >> it here >> >> https://paddy-hack.gitlab.i

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

2018-02-15 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
ng Debian's Stretch, *not* Buster. Buster will be for Devuan's Beowulf and work on that is unlikely to begin before ASCII becomes the "stable" Devuan release. So if your Debian "test" system is tracking *testing* you're are, in effect, comparing apples and orange

Re: [DNG] golang and emacs

2018-03-07 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Hendrik, Hendrik Boom writes: > Anyone know the proper thing to make emacs edit go language code properly? > > i.e, use proper indentation and so forth? There's a go-mode package on melpa-stable. See https://github.com/dominikh/go-mode.el Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeu

Re: [DNG] Please, provide a means to remove the default wallpapers.

2018-03-10 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
he Devuan Distribution to provide a means to >>> permanently remove the purple wallpapers (golinux's creation). I would >>> like to have either wallpapers that users can individually choose or >>> some light blue/green gradient wallpapers. >>> >>>

Re: [DNG] Please, provide a means to remove the default wallpapers.

2018-03-10 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi again, Olaf Meeuwissen writes: > Hi, > > goli...@dyne.org writes: > >> This is the best answer of all. >> >> Yes, just remove desktop-base to eliminate all styling you find >> objectionable and recreate it as you wish. > > Seems a bit drastic ju

[DNG] Xfce clock visibility with darkpurpy (was Re: Please, provide a means to remove the default wallpapers.)

2018-03-11 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, goli...@dyne.org writes: > On 2018-03-11 00:29, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> Hi again, >> [...] >> Apart from getting the clock in the Xfce systemtray to display in a >> colour that contrasts with the darkpurpy theme rather than the dark >> shade of grey that is

Re: [DNG] Please, provide a means to remove the default wallpapers.

2018-03-11 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Jochen, J. Fahrner writes: > Am 2018-03-11 02:09, schrieb Olaf Meeuwissen: >> The problem is that desktop-base has an explicit Depends: on >> clearlooks-phenix-darkpurpy-theme where alternatives could be provided >> or a meta-package to pull in a theme so that admins can

Re: [DNG] Xfce clock visibility with darkpurpy (was Re: Please, provide a means to remove the default wallpapers.)

2018-03-12 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, goli...@dyne.org writes: > On 2018-03-11 07:43, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> Hi, >> >> goli...@dyne.org writes: >> >>> On 2018-03-11 00:29, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >>>> Hi again, >>>> [...] >>>> Apart from getting the cloc

Re: [DNG] Xfce clock visibility with darkpurpy (was Re: Please, provide a means to remove the default wallpapers.)

2018-03-12 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, KatolaZ writes: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 09:43:40PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > > [cut] > >> >> I do my agenda and task scheduling with Org-mode so have no real need >> for Orage. The only reason I still have it installed is because I've >&g

Re: [DNG] Xfce clock visibility with darkpurpy (was Re: Please, provide a means to remove the default wallpapers.)

2018-03-12 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, goli...@dyne.org writes: > On 2018-03-11 07:43, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> Hi, >> >> goli...@dyne.org writes: >> >>> On 2018-03-11 00:29, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >>>> Hi again, >>>> [...] >>>> Apart from getting the cloc

Re: [DNG] printing in a D-Bus free system

2018-03-16 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
it can only read *whole* files :-(, you have a problem though. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donat

Re: [DNG] printing in a D-Bus free system

2018-03-16 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, Joel Roth writes: > Cups was sponsored by Apple, [...] Correction, Apple bought CUPS in February 2007 after they adopted it for inclusion in MacOS X in March 2002[1]. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUPS#History Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associ

Re: [DNG] [j...@debian.org: [SECURITY] [DSA 4139-1] firefox-esr security update]

2018-03-16 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
also have no real problem with getting them ;-) # Already get "duplicates" from Ubuntu as well :-/ What I'd definitely do like to see is Devuan Security Announcements for the *forked* packages. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-0

Re: [DNG] printing in a D-Bus free system

2018-03-16 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Didier, Didier Kryn writes: > Le 16/03/2018 à 09:19, Olaf Meeuwissen a écrit: >>> This is getting off the topic in the subject line, [...] >> Indeed;-) >> >>> In PostScript, I don't readily find any built-in operators that could >>> give a re

Re: [DNG] Error when updating ascii 32 bit

2018-03-18 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
ill existed on my system. I ran for f in `cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/udev.list`; do sudo rm $f; done sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/udev.list sudo dpkg --configure eudev and that allowed eudev to configure itself without error. I realize that ascii is not quite ready for release yet, but I do believe

Re: [DNG] Solved with Jessie netinst, but not Ascii. [Was: Re: Does devuan install from USB really need a CDROM?

2018-03-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
ain, > after I overcome a more immediate problem. > > The dd of Jessie netinst did copy OK, and install, but there's a boot > problem with it, and I'll start another subthread to keep things > coherent. Boot problem, you say? Well it might be just that you've put t

Re: [DNG] Unbootable system due to cryptsetup depending to two libs in /usr

2018-04-02 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Docker image build scripts explicitly specify it in their debootstrap invocation[2]. Please note that these runs in a Debian jessie container that has been migrated to Devuan and uses debootstrap-1.0.87 which also has these options. [2]: https://gitlab.com/paddy-hack/devuan/blob/master/bootstrap

Re: [DNG] DSA openssl openssl1.0

2018-04-03 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
ion table: *** 1.0.2l-2+deb9u3 500 500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-security/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 1.0.2l-2+deb9u2 500 500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages > [...] Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2

Re: [DNG] lsb_release on ascii

2018-04-17 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
uan (or an alternative that mentions packages.devuan.org and Devuan Ports). My `apt-cache policy` output does not match any of that so I *think* that's why I get an 'n/a' for the codename. # The code is a bit hard to follow which is why I am not sure :-/ Any chance the `ap

Re: [DNG] lsb_release on ascii

2018-04-20 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Tom, Looks like we're on to something! Tom writes: > On 17 April 2018 at 22:17, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > >> I get the same 'n/a' with the same versions of base-files and lsb-base. >> FTR, lsb-release has the same version as lsb-base. >> >> I&#x

Re: [DNG] Fwd: Announce: docker-buildpackage

2018-05-02 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
//gitlab.com/paddy-hack/devuan for details. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free So

Re: [DNG] Congratulations! and some migration questions

2018-05-12 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
7;; it's potterware but it just works. > I prefer to use netplug: > apt-get install netplug > it is not potterware. Battled Network Manager Fought wicd Now I have peace! # At least for my wired interfaces Documentation is crisp clear. Functionality is simple. Thanks, -- Olaf Meeuw

Re: [DNG] Congratulations! and some migration questions

2018-05-12 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
share/doc/base-password/user-and-groups.txt.gz (outdated?) https://wiki.debian.org/SystemGroups I'm off now, reconfiguring my wireless setup. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E

[DNG] Origin: field of *_InRelease files (was Re: npm and nodejs)

2018-05-23 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
against the "mirrors" pseudo-package. In my case, `lsb_release -cs` yields 'n/a'. There may or may not be an issue with lsb_release itself but there is definitely an issue with the *_InRelease files for some of the package repositories. Is anyone looking at this? Hope this helps,

Re: [DNG] Creating .deb packages with jenkins-debian-glue

2018-05-31 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
he relevant details. It's now showing a > different error. The "n/a" sounds like you've also been hit by http://bugs.devuan.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=199 Try using packages.devuan.org. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004

Re: [DNG] Devuan ascii installer netinstall iso UPDATE

2018-06-01 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
md5 -f $file where $file is one of the SSH server's keyfiles in the installation target. IIRC, these should be below /target/etc/ssh/. There is an option to execute a shell in the installer itself or you can switch virtual terminals with one of the Alt-Fn key combos. Don't quite remem

Re: [DNG] "Origin:" now set to "Devuan"

2018-06-02 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
e several issues related to incomplete > or wrong information retrieved (openly or silently) by > lsb_release. This includes also a few cases in which Devuan is not > correctly "recognised" as a host system. I've also closed the bug report I filed about this. http://bugs.

Re: [DNG] Creating .deb packages with jenkins-debian-glue

2018-06-02 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi KatolaZ, KatolaZ writes: > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 03:29:30PM +0200, KatolaZ wrote: >> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 09:16:27PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> > >> > The "n/a" sounds like you've also been hit by >> > >> > http://b

Re: [DNG] ASCII installation static IP problem

2018-06-14 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
tem ignore static > IP by design? ] Not if you don't install a desktop ;-) # You mentioned installing on a Lenove Think*Server*. I *never* put a # desktop on my servers ... Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0

Re: [DNG] devuan from scratch?

2018-06-14 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
ou. Want to learn how it works? Use the Source, Luke. The nice part about the README.md is that it explains (some of) the *why* behind steps. That is arguably missing from the Source. BTW, that README.md follows a somewhat different road as debootstrap (building some bits from source for exampl

Re: [DNG] ASCII installation static IP problem

2018-06-19 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Steve, Steve Litt writes: > On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 19:54:11 +0900 > Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > >> Hi Don, >> >> Don Wright writes: >> >> > [ ... ASCII using Expert (text) from >> > devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_dvd-1.iso ...] >> > >>

Re: [DNG] One week into Devuan 2.0 ASCII -- Some stats

2018-06-19 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
eowulf/main/Contents-amd64.gz \ | zegrep admin/systemd$ spits out tons of hits. Maybe that's why? -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Software

Re: [DNG] One week into Devuan 2.0 ASCII -- Some stats

2018-06-19 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi again, Hit send a bit too early :-( Continuing inline. Olaf Meeuwissen writes: > Hi Arnt, > > Arnt Karlsen writes: > >> On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 13:27:35 +0100, Simon wrote in message >> <71def11e-d133-4358-b824-46f00dda6...@thehobsons.co.uk>: >> >>>

Re: [DNG] ASCII installation static IP problem

2018-06-21 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Don, Don Wright writes: > Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > >>Installing a desktop, by default, pulls in wicd (or network-manager). >>You can prevent this by using apt-get's --no-install-recommend option. > > Not an option within the de??an installer - which was the conte

Re: [DNG] installer woe

2018-06-26 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
ou mentioned that Purism ISOs boot fine for you. Could it be that your BIOS has Trusted Boot or Secure Boot or similar enabled? Guess you oughta ask the Purism people about that (after you check their documentation of course). Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate M

Re: [DNG] systemd and ssh-server

2018-07-26 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
away and Devuan *could* add this dpkg.cfg.d file to a suitable package (and the find invocation in that package's postinst). The latter only after a good deal of testing of course. Disclaimer: None of the above has been tested (although I do use this approach to clean out /usr/share/doc in my

[DNG] Provides: libsystemd0 (was Re: systemd and ssh-server)

2018-07-26 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
lain init-freedom? Remember, coming up with a neat name is half the fun of an open source software project ;-) Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Supp

Re: [DNG] systemd and ssh-server

2018-07-26 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
libsystemd to force them to check if systemd is available... which is > exactly what we are trying to avoid by nooping libsystemd0... :P Exactly. Any package that Provides: libsystemd0 is *not* at liberty to change that library's documented API. No matter how much you may dislike that API and w

Re: [DNG] Provides: libsystemd0 (was Re: systemd and ssh-server)

2018-07-26 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, Minor correction in-lined below. Olaf Meeuwissen writes: > Hi, > > KatolaZ writes: > >> The medium-term plan is to replace libsystemd0 with a libnosystemd >> which Provides: libsystemd0 and noops everything, with the possibility >> of shelling-out some acti

Re: [DNG] Provides: libsystemd0 (was Re: systemd and ssh-server)

2018-07-27 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, Arnt Karlsen writes: > On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 22:00:06 +0900, Olaf wrote in message > <87va92gnjd@member.fsf.org>: > >> Hi, >> >> Minor correction in-lined below. >> >> Olaf Meeuwissen writes: >> >> > Hi, >> > >>

[DNG] util-linux needs an upgrade on ceres

2018-08-03 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
(<< 2.32-0.2~) and is installed. Version of util-linux to be configured is 2.27.1-1+devuan0.1. Looks like util-linux needs a bit of tender loving care on ceres. [1]: https://gitlab.com/paddy-hack/devuan/pipelines/27093166 Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate

Re: [DNG] UFW - ERROR: problem running ufw-init

2018-08-04 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
. The latter might have been used to embed a hard-coded kernel version. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttp

Re: [DNG] rsync variant

2018-08-26 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
iff. Haven't used it myself but sound (and looks) like it fits your bill. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my

Re: [DNG] rsync variant

2018-08-27 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, Hendrik Boom writes: > On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 06:05:39PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> Hendrik Boom writes: >> >> > On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 12:39:11PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: >> >> Is there a reason not to use `rsync -n` ? >> > >> &g

Re: [DNG] util-linux needs an upgrade on ceres

2018-09-04 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
; On 04/08/18 01:42, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> My monthly Devuan Docker image rebuild bombed today on ceres[1]. The >> base images for jessie, ascii and beowulf(!) built just fine. >> >> Looking into this, I found this in the debootstrap.log >> >> dpkg: dep

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-23 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
kage does not seem to exist ... Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software

Re: [DNG] Devuan + remote desktop of Ubuntu = how?

2018-10-23 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
once that's working you should have no problem showing their desktop on your Devuan machine using Remmina over SSH. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Suppo

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, Stephan Seitz writes: > On Di, Okt 23, 2018 at 08:16:51 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: >>On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 08:27:25PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >>> Make that: "there *was* a command, chkconfig:" >>> >>> It's no longer present in De

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
your way to remove them forcibly. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundat

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