Re: [Dng] Some downgrades may be needed e.g. cups Re: Towards systemd-free packages

E in the bag. Contrary to GNOME it is fast, configurable and consumes by "todays standards" minimal resources. Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA. Mag. Dr. Nikolaus Klepp Einnehmerstraße 14 A-4810 Gmunden Tel.: +43 650

Re: [Dng] Some downgrades may be needed e.g. cups Re: Towards systemd-free packages

Am Dienstag, 3. Februar 2015 schrieb Steve Litt: > On Tue, 3 Feb 2015 20:15:50 +0100 > Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > Am Dienstag, 3. Februar 2015 schrieb Steve Litt: > > > On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 16:14:10 +0100 > > > Godefridus Daalmans wrote: > > > > >

Re: [Dng] Some downgrades may be needed e.g. cups Re: Towards systemd-free packages

I often install linux to new users coming from the > > windows environment, the feedback from those users have always been > > very bad for kde4 and very good for kde3. > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > >>> Nik, how

Re: [Dng] Some downgrades may be needed e.g. cups Re: Towards systemd-free packages

Am Dienstag, 3. Februar 2015 schrieb Steve Litt: > On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 16:14:10 +0100 > Godefridus Daalmans wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Jude Nelson posted an enormous rdepends list, of what packages would > > need to be changed for Devuan Jessie,but from my own experimentation > > I concluded that

Re: [Dng] Some downgrades may be needed e.g. cups Re: Towards systemd-free packages

Am Dienstag, 3. Februar 2015 schrieb Steve Litt: > On Tue, 3 Feb 2015 20:15:50 +0100 > Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > Am Dienstag, 3. Februar 2015 schrieb Steve Litt: > > > On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 16:14:10 +0100 > > > Godefridus Daalmans wrote: > > > > >

Re: [Dng] printing (was Re: Readiness notification)

Am Sonntag, 14. Juni 2015 schrieb Laurent Bercot: > On 14/06/2015 11:58, KatolaZ wrote: > > Sorry for asking a silly question, but what's the problem in having > > cups "running" all the time? And better, if you start/stop cups when > > you need it, why should cups notify systemd (or any other init

Re: [Dng] TPM

Am Dienstag, 23. Dezember 2014 schrieb John Morris: > On Mon, 2014-12-22 at 17:23 -0600, T.J. Duchene wrote: > > > What can it do in the right? Nothing that can't be done without the TPM > > chip. One of the first things that you learn in computer engineering is > > that anything problem can be

Re: [Dng] vdev update and design document

Am Montag, 5. Januar 2015 schrieb Martijn Dekkers: > On 5 January 2015 at 07:47, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult < > enrico.weig...@gr13.net> wrote: > > > On 05.01.2015 00:40, Jude Nelson wrote: > > > > >> In VAX/VMS there was a feature that could in theory be useful, > > >> though I've never see

Re: [Dng] Some downgrades may be needed e.g. cups Re: Towards systemd-free packages

> Nik, how reasonable would it be to use TDE without KDE apps? Would > doing so still yield benefits over and above, let's say, Xfce? Does TDE > have any systemd dependencies? > > Thanks, > > SteveT > Oh, I forgot one thing: On TDE you can move windows from desktop to desktop using the pager,

Re: [Dng] recommendation for consideration: keep as close to debian as possible

Am Samstag, 14. Februar 2015 schrieb Luke Leighton: > to support the purchase of a new (recent) printer which requires hplip > 3.16 for example i had to compile hplip *from source code* because > TDE *even with latest packages* forces hplip 3.12 *not* 3.16. Sorry, this statement is not true: TD

Re: [Dng] FreeBSD experiment

Am Dienstag, 24. Februar 2015 schrieb Robert Storey: > Although I'm very hopeful that Devuan will be my future distro of choice, > we're still not there yet. I thought it might be prudent for me to survey > the other possibilities that do not depend on systemd. So yesterday, I > decided to give Fre

Re: [Dng] plan to install valentine pre-alpha on real hardware.

Am Freitag, 27. Februar 2015 schrieb Martijn Dekkers: > > > > for example > > > > dd if=/home/daffyduck/download/devian.iso of=/dev/sde > > > > Did that. > > > > Wouldn't boot. > > > > http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ > some computers need a partition table on the usb-stick to boot. -- Pl

Re: [Dng] Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is

Am Donnerstag, 5. März 2015 schrieb william moss: > On 03/04/2015 07:06 PM, Ed Ender wrote: [...] > > Opera for the browser. > Thunderbird or Claws for email, though the Opera client is good. Does it have maildir? All those one-big-file-for-everything mailbox style clients are pestilenze for bac

Re: [Dng] Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is

Am Donnerstag, 5. März 2015 schrieb Gravis: > > Here is just one example of what I am referring to. > > http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data > > yeah, if you actually read the article you will learn that google > (like everyone else) complies with the law. if you l

Re: [Dng] Which DE will initially be fully supported in Devuan?

Am Montag, 23. März 2015 schrieb Anto: > Hello Everybody, > > I hope I am not too early to ask this. > > I have been switching desktops that are available in Debian so many > times. But I always go back to XFCE. I have been on XFCE (again) for > almost a year now. > > From the recent discussi

Re: [Dng] [dng] vdev status updates

From the FreeBSD point of view: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/dirstructure.html Anyway, symlinking /bin to /usr/bin is quite strange. Nik Am Donnerstag, 30. April 2015 schrieb James Powell: > From my personal knowledge, having built LFS a few times, though this doesn't > compar

Re: [Dng] Everyone's favorite DE: GNOME3

Am Freitag, 29. Mai 2015 schrieb Didier Kryn: > > Le 29/05/2015 01:45, Neo Futur a écrit : > > I dont really want to troll, but I have to say I m not included in > > this "everyone" and the trinity, the kde3 fork, is great at many > > levels, and systemd-free, and is my favorite DE > > > > A

Re: [Dng] straw poll, non-free firmware for installers

Am Mittwoch, 3. Juni 2015 schrieb James Powell: > While keeping to the libre creed is nice, at least having the option for > firmware will help compatibility with hardware that requires it. Sadly, this > is becoming more commonplace as newer hardware is released. More and more > modern hardware

Re: [Dng] straw poll, non-free firmware for installers

Am Donnerstag, 4. Juni 2015 schrieb Steve Litt: > [...] > Why, why, WHY was that not stated *right up front*? From the > beginning, *scream* "Don't waste time: If you get a prompt saying > unsupported hardware, load the right stuff into your thumbdrive and > just try again." Very explicit, exact in

Re: [Dng] printing (was Re: Readiness notification)

Am Sonntag, 14. Juni 2015 schrieb Laurent Bercot: > On 14/06/2015 15:29, Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > And I thought the historic solution would be to give your web printing > > service an id higher than cups, eg.: > > > > /etc/rc*/S04cups > > /etc/rc*/S99awsomeweb

[DNG] chromium: unconditionally downloads binary blob

Just seen on the crypto mailing list, for all those chromium users ... Nik -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: [cryptography] chromium: unconditionally downloads binary blob Date: Mittwoch, 17. Juni 2015, 14:12:17 From: Alexander Klimov An: cryptogra...@randombit.net

Re: [DNG] I am not using systemd and plan to avoid it

Am Mittwoch, 15. Juli 2015 schrieb James Powell: > Look at the number who use it and dislike it... > > Sent from my Windows Phone > > From: Alberto Zuin - liste > Sent: ‎7/‎15/‎2015 2:14 PM > To: dng@lists.dyne.org

[DNG] popcon submitter counts falling

Has anybody seen this? http://popcon.debian.org/ https://qa.debian.org/popcon-graph.php?packages=coreutils&show_installed=on&want_legend=on&want_ticks=on&date_fmt=%25Y-%25m&beenhere=1 Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA. ___

Re: [DNG] systemd in the era of hotplugable devices

Am Mittwoch, 22. Juli 2015 schrieb Steve Litt: > Pre-cisely! I don't have Lennart Poettering's coding skills or system > wisdom, nor do I have the budget by which his team operates, but even I > was able to put together the most challenging part of hotplugging, > using inotifywait: > > http://www

Re: [DNG] An abrupt end to Debian Live CD version?

Am Freitag, 13. November 2015 schrieb Steve Litt: > Proud or not, you don't want to assist the systemd marketeers in > shutting down discussion about systemd's architecture, do you? Well, you could use "crunchy-granola" for systemd fanboy ;-) Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are n

Re: [DNG] Removing of systemd causes removal of CUPS

Am Freitag, 20. November 2015 schrieb Antonio Trkdz.tab: > Dear All, > > I recently upgraded to Devuan from Wheezy. > I investigate the possibility to remove any trace of systemd from my > system, but > in the list of packets to be purged there is also CUPS and a bunch of its > dependencies. > >

Re: [DNG] Removing of systemd causes removal of CUPS

Am Mittwoch, 25. November 2015 schrieb Antonio Trkdz.tab: > Hi Daniel, > > thank you for your reply. > I suspected it wasn't a good > idea. > > Do you know which is the correct -t argument to pass to apt-get in case I > would like to install from angband on a one off basis? > I tried -t nosystemd

Re: [DNG] problems with CUPS

Hi! Have you tried this: # apt-get install cups=1.7.5-11+deb8u1.0nosystemd1 Nik Am Montag, 30. November 2015 schrieb Antonio Trkdz.tab: > Dear All, > > I finally removed systemd from my devuan system with: apt-get purge systemd > libsystemd0 libsystemd-daemon0. > > I would like to install CU

Re: [DNG] Which email client can I use to properly quote emails?

Am Dienstag, 15. Dezember 2015 schrieb Didier Kryn: > Le 14/12/2015 21:57, Edward Bartolo a écrit : > > On 14/12/2015, Teodoro Santoni wrote: > >> Actually you *can* quote previous replies with gmail classic (and > >> javascriptnightmare gmail too): click on "reply to all" and use the > >> form, a

Re: [DNG] Our friendly community

> Marco d'Itri's response to that post is illuminating: > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg00644.html > > "I strongly recommend that the people who cannot live with libsystemd0 > installed on their systems leave Debian, because their life is going to > suck more and more as we

Re: [DNG] Devuan's goal: was Our friendly community

Am Montag, 21. Dezember 2015 schrieb John Hughes: > On 21/12/15 11:52, Rowland Penny wrote: > > On 21/12/15 10:03, John Hughes wrote: > >> > >> > >> What I'm looking for is choice -- I want people who want systemd to > >> be able to run it, and people who dont want it to be able to use > >> sysvi

Re: [DNG] About the angband repos

Am Mittwoch, 23. Dezember 2015 schrieb dev1fanboy: > For the people who have used the angband repos, can these repos be added > during a dist-upgrade or must it be done after? I'd suggest to do it befor, because if you do it later, you'll have to be careful about cups. Nik -- Please do not em

Re: [DNG] I've got the automounter running

Am Montag, 28. Dezember 2015 schrieb Hendrik Boom: > On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 08:54:29PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 19:37:08 +0100, Didier wrote in message > > <56818154.2070...@in2p3.fr>: > > > > > Le 28/12/2015 19:22, Simon Hobson a écrit : > > > > The cache gets written

Re: [DNG] GNOME3 and Co.

Am Sonntag, 3. Januar 2016 schrieb Mitt Green: > [...] > By the way, TDE (trinitydesktop.org) does not > need systemd to run, and was working > great in my installation, they have builds for > Stable and Testing/Unstable. And even complete > and bloated setup has much less packages > comparing to G

Re: [DNG] GNOME3 and Co.

Am Montag, 4. Januar 2016 schrieb Mitt Green: > I don't really understand, why a desktop environment > depends on a initialisation system. I'm sure M$ has a good answer to this question. And GNOME has a registry, too, which is a very good thing to have, I was told ;-) > GNOME3 is by the way a

[DNG] what is sssd?

Does anybody know what sssd is good for? I was a bit surprised to see a whole bunch of these sssd-something packages in debian, while I was searching for sss. It's homepage says: "SSSD is a system daemon. Its primary function is to provide access to identity and authentication remote resource t

Re: [DNG] "Common knowledge?"-question

Am Freitag, 22. Januar 2016 schrieb Rainer Weikusat: > Can the effect of the following C function > > static void print_start(char const *name, char const *what) > { > char *buf, *p; > unsigned name_len, what_len, total; > > name_len = strlen(name); > what_len = strlen(what); >

Re: [DNG] Ad filtering and blocking

Am Sonntag, 24. Januar 2016 schrieb Edward Bartolo: > Thanks for your reply. I am noticing that since some time ago websites > are starting to 'brainwash' users to use cookies. This is often done > by displaying a high contrast banner at the top threatening that by > using their website one MUST al

Re: [DNG] "Common knowledge?"-question

Am Montag, 25. Januar 2016 schrieb KatolaZ: > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 09:27:15AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > The following works in plain old C: > > > > #include > > #include > > static void print_start(char const *name, char const *what) > > { > > unsigned name_len

Re: [DNG] "Common knowledge?"-question

Am Montag, 25. Januar 2016 schrieb Rainer Weikusat: > "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" writes: > > [...] > > > What about making the source smaller and not the executable? > > > > static void print_start(char const *name, char const *what) { > > if

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

Am Donnerstag, 25. Februar 2016 schrieb Go Linux: > I sometimes hang out on the xfce forum and ran across this today. It seems > that xfce 4.14 is moving from gtk2 to gtk3 and predictably in very gnomish > fashion, features/functionality are being removed. So Devuan might want to > contemplat

Re: [DNG] Digital camera management borked

Am Mittwoch, 2. März 2016 schrieb Rob: > Original Message > Subject: Re: [DNG] Digital camera management borked > Local Time: March 2, 2016 9:59 pm > UTC Time: March 2, 2016 9:59 PM > From: nuisa...@protonmail.com > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > > > > Original Message -

Re: [DNG] Digital camera management borked

Am Donnerstag, 3. März 2016 schrieb Go Linux: > On Wed, 3/2/16, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > Subject: Re: [DNG] Digital camera management borked > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Date: Wednesday, March 2, 2016, 4:22 PM > > Am Mittwoch, 2. März 2016 schrieb Rob: > >

Re: [DNG] Digital camera management borked

Am Donnerstag, 3. März 2016 schrieb Go Linux: > > > Jude . . . how is vdev going to handle usb mounting of cameras? > > golinux If it's sane, it will just do what the kernel says. In my case: removeable media: mount it as a user. nik -- Please do

Re: [DNG] UEFI Secure Boot workaround?

Am Freitag, 4. März 2016 schrieb Arnt Gulbrandsen: > Simon Hobson writes: > > Not really, but I don't see any sign of that as a question in > > the post I was replying to ! > > You said secure boot's security is blown out of the water because it's > possible to run untrusted code under certain c

Re: [DNG] UEFI Secure Boot workaround?

Am Freitag, 4. März 2016 schrieb Arnt Gulbrandsen: > Dr. Nikolaus Klepp writes: > > Am Freitag, 4. März 2016 schrieb Arnt Gulbrandsen: > >> You said secure boot's security is blown out of the water because it's > >> possible to run untrusted code

Re: [DNG] Devuan Rpi2 Lxde

Am Samstag, 12. März 2016 schrieb KatolaZ: > On Mon, Mar 07, 2016 at 09:19:14AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > [cut] > > > > good to have a pivuan for armv6 + FP2 for rpi0, but it is true that > > > with the new rpi3 it would be far better and easier to invest time in > > > a pivuan for armhf, wh

Re: [DNG] Raspberry Pi 2 image

Am Montag, 11. April 2016 schrieb Go Linux: > >> you can login as root with credentials "root:porcoddio" > > > Thanks, downloading it... > > >For security reasons, i changed the password to "salaamalekum" > > > > I'm not getting the obsess

Re: [DNG] Which desktops work without systemd

Am Sonntag, 24. April 2016 schrieb Hendrik Boom: > > One more thing: I think this whole wm/de thing is a useless > > distinction that never should have been made. > > The point at which I consider that it's no longer a window manager is > when it starts to interfere with the conventions X set up.

Re: [DNG] Which desktops work without systemd

Am Sonntag, 24. April 2016 schrieb Hendrik Boom: > On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 11:00:21AM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > Am Sonntag, 24. April 2016 schrieb Hendrik Boom: > > > > One more thing: I think this whole wm/de thing is a useless > > > > distinction

Re: [DNG] how to make xterm window not close automatically after executing a command?

xterm -T Sysinfo -e inxi -F -hold enjoy :-) Nik Am Montag, 6. Juni 2016 schrieb emnin...@riseup.net: > If i do 'xterm -T Htop -e htop' the terminal window rests open, if i do > 'xterm -T Sysinfo -e inxi -F' the window closes. > > In some way it's logical, to me, since htop has not finished its j

Re: [DNG] systemd==bad

Am Montag, 11. Juli 2016 schrieb emnin...@riseup.net: > 1] I remember a novel of H. P. Lovecraft where there is a monster, > which, once it'll be awaken it would engulf all the world. I believe to > remember its name was jabbawagga, but it's only a vague memory ... ;) Cthulhu :-) -- Please do

Re: [DNG] OT: true read-only disk

Am Donnerstag, 18. August 2016 schrieb Didier Kryn: > Le 18/08/2016 16:59, Simon Hobson a écrit : > > OT, but there seem to be a few people who understand such in-depth stuff > > here ;-) > > > > I'm in the process of recovering (with ddrescue) files of a failing drive - > > no backups as "it's o

Re: [DNG] Openrc

Am Freitag, 16. September 2016 schrieb KatolaZ: > That looks like a great plan, but who will supervise the supervisors? > :) The NSA .. or BND ... . If you don't have something to hide, then you have nothing to fear ;-) -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also shari

[DNG] devuan on RPi2

Hi all! This weekend I tried to get devuan working on RPi 2. I used this image: https://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie_beta/devuan_jessie_1.0.0-beta_armhf_raspi2.img.xz The RPi boots fine, but it crashes reliably while installing xorg + terminator. "crashing" means, the kernel thinks the sd-ca

Re: [DNG] devuan on RPi2

installing the same packages does not pull in systemd. Nik Am Montag, 28. November 2016 schrieb Dr. Nikolaus Klepp: > Hi all! > > This weekend I tried to get devuan working on RPi 2. I used this image: > https://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie_beta/devuan_jessie_1.0.0-beta_armhf_rasp

[DNG] beta2 running surprisingly well

Hi all! I just tried beta2 netinstall on X61/T60/T61. Basic installation was flawless. the only thing I have to complain about is that when I installed "xorg xdm terminator xterm" it also installed "libsystemd0". Purging libsystemd0 removed sane-utils, but that's no big loss :-) And it boots f

Re: [DNG] Networking on installation: was Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release

Am Donnerstag, 8. Dezember 2016 schrieb Rick Moen: > So, banning software patents is difficult, because of the ease of > instantiating software in hardware. On the contrary, it's quite easy: what ever can be implemented using a turing machine is not patentable. -- Please do not email me anythi

Re: [DNG] Networking on installation: was Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release

Am Donnerstag, 8. Dezember 2016 schrieb KatolaZ: > On Thu, Dec 08, 2016 at 10:38:52AM +0100, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 8. Dezember 2016 schrieb Rick Moen: > > > So, banning software patents is difficult, because of the ease of > > > instant

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

Am Mittwoch, 22. Februar 2017 schrieb Rick Moen: > Quoting Jochen Fahrner (j...@fahrner.name): > Other DEs outside the gtk2-to-gtk3 conundrum: > > KDE: Qt5 > Cinnamon, MATE: gtk3 (to the extent that these are DEs distinct from GNOME3) > Enlightenment & Moksha Desktop: Elementary (from EFL) > Ét

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

Am Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2017 schrieb Jaromil: > Golinux has done an outstanding work with the looks of Devuan, > starting from the website to finish with the purpy desktop, but we > must admit the integration of this part is one of the main reasons we > are so late, since the Linux desktop has b

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

Am Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2017 schrieb goli...@dyne.org: > That won't be possible for jessie at this late date. Theming takes a > LOT of time and is painstaking work. I'm not a fan of TDE - too clunky > and cluttered for my taste but it will be under consideration for ascii > along with other

[DNG] Image for RPi3 ?

Hi all! Where can I get a working image fo devuan ascii for the RPi3? The image from https://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie_beta/embedded/devuan_jessie_1.0.0-beta2_arm64_raspi3.img.xz does not work, "apt-get update" fails with a library mismatch. Nik -- Please do not email me anything that

Re: [DNG] Image for RPi3 ?

Am Montag, 27. März 2017 schrieb Steve Litt: > On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 14:20:28 +0100 > KatolaZ wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 03:15:26PM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > Hi all! > > > > > > Where can I get a working image fo devuan ascii

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

Am Dienstag, 20. Juni 2017 schrieb Hendrik Boom: > On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 09:12:39AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > > > A few years ago I took over maintenance of a handy application of > > interest to radio amateurs. It had been dropped from Debian due to a > > compile failure with a newer ver

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

Hi! > It's because the community that GNOME is serving is *not you. *And it is > very, very important for Free Software to serve a community that is not > like us! "Why?" and "Could you please tell that the systemd folks?" I agree, that 90% of the people are hapy with limited choice. But as you

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

Am Mittwoch, 21. Juni 2017 schrieb Bruce Perens: > > I agree, that 90% of the people are hapy with limited choice. But as you > already said, that field is served by apple and M$. No > need for us to > follow down that road. Salvation is not on to be found on the highway :-) > > What you are sayin

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

Am Mittwoch, 21. Juni 2017 schrieb Bruce Perens: > Our side won. Today there are more hams in the US than ever before in > history, and we are no longer expecting the demise of Ham Radio. One looles, one wins: in Germany the number of Ham operators decreased by 15% in the last 8 years. Nik --

Re: [DNG] Trinity on Jessie

Hi! Am Sonntag, 25. Juni 2017 schrieb Arnt Karlsen: > On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 19:23:12 +0200, Arnt wrote in message > <20170625192312.0e037...@nb6.lan>: > > > On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 12:29:01 +, Gary wrote in message > > : > > > > > Follow up on my Trinity blurb the other day: > > > ' > > > Don't

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

Hi ! Am Montag, 26. Juni 2017 schrieb k...@opal.lcl.aspodata.se: > From https://busybox.net/downloads/BusyBox.html > mdev > mdev [-s] > -s Scan /sys and populate /dev during system boot > It can be run by kernel as a hotplug helper. To activate it: > echo /bin/mdev >/p

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

Hi! Am Montag, 26. Juni 2017 schrieb Rick Moen: > Quoting Dr. Nikolaus Klepp (dr.kl...@gmx.at): > > > Hi ! > > > > Am Montag, 26. Juni 2017 schrieb k...@opal.lcl.aspodata.se: > > > From https://busybox.net/downloads/BusyBox.html > > > mdev > > >

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

Am Montag, 26. Juni 2017 schrieb Rick Moen: > root@mini:/proc# uname -r > 2.6.39-3.slh.1-aptosid-amd64 > root@mini:/proc# yes, 2.6 series worked that way :-) Problem is: $ uname -r 4.9.0-0.bpo.3-amd64 Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

Am Montag, 26. Juni 2017 schrieb Rick Moen: > Quoting Dr. Nikolaus Klepp (dr.kl...@gmx.at): > > > yes, 2.6 series worked that way :-) > > > > Problem is: > > > > $ uname -r > > 4.9.0-0.bpo.3-amd64 > > Well, exploring improved kernels is good. Bu

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

Am Montag, 26. Juni 2017 schrieb Rick Moen: > Quoting Dr. Nikolaus Klepp (dr.kl...@gmx.at): > > The answer to your implied question of 'What do I use if the older > hotplug subsystem is no longer supported by my very recent Linux kernel?'[1] > is 'Use a diffe

Re: [DNG] trinity on devuan, re: dng v33/56/ #2

Hi! I suggest you try this aproach and forget about q4os: https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/DevuanInstall Nik Am Montag, 26. Juni 2017 schrieb Gary Olzeke: > @Dr. (Nik) Kepp asked for my sources. list -- well its on a disconnected > drive. > But I only had the 3 Jessie main repositories. I had i

Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance!

Am Freitag, 30. Juni 2017 schrieb Aldemir Akpinar: > On 30 June 2017 at 09:14, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > * On 2017 30 Jun 00:55 -0500, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > > >> Maybe it's me, but what the hell is a DNS resolver doing inside an init > >> system? > > > > The same thing that a time sync (NTP

Re: [DNG] Please keep 32-bits alive

Am Dienstag, 25. Juli 2017 schrieb Didier Kryn: > > https://around.com/ariane.html > > Even with a high level language carefully designed to discourage > loose programming and dirty low-level tricks, it is still possible, > although with strong efforts, to fuck the compiler and keep program

Re: [DNG] Which desktops work without systemd

Am Dienstag, 15. August 2017 schrieb Arnt Karlsen: > On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 10:45:54 +0200, Svante wrote in message > <1502786754.3090.22.ca...@gmail.com>: > > > On Thu, 2016-04-21 at 19:57 +0200, Rob van der Putten wrote: > > > Hi there > > > > Hi > > > > > Which desktops work without systemd? >

Re: [DNG] Alternative to renaming: mactoname

Am Freitag, 25. August 2017 schrieb Narcis Garcia: > In the meanwhile, hotplug users will survive with this: I prefer this in the grub config: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="... net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0 ..." Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with

Re: [DNG] Purism Librem and disabling Intel ME: it can be done [ Re: TALOS 2 - The Libre Owner Controlled POWER9 Workstation/Server ]

Am Dienstag, 5. September 2017 schrieb Edward Bartolo: > So, it means, without my knowledge as a computer user, I have a HIDDEN > OPERATING SYSTEM running under my nose. Securitiwise, it is like > running MS Windows notwithstanding I am running Devuan ASCII! > > With all this, a tinfoil hat is com

Re: [DNG] systemd-udevd: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1

Am Mittwoch, 11. Oktober 2017 schrieb John Morris: > On Tue, 2017-10-10 at 01:49 +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > > By the manual, the correct solution in configuring Grub as to pass the > > kernel these parameters: > > > > biosdevname=0 net.ifnames=0 > > Those fix similar problems but not e

Re: [DNG] systemd-udevd: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1

Am Mittwoch, 11. Oktober 2017 schrieb Didier Kryn: > Le 11/10/2017 à 08:10, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp a écrit : > > Am Mittwoch, 11. Oktober 2017 schrieb John Morris: > >> On Tue, 2017-10-10 at 01:49 +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > >> > >>>By the manual, the

Re: [DNG] systemd-udevd: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1

Am Samstag, 7. Oktober 2017 schrieb Tobias Hunger: > On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Didier Kryn wrote: > > Then maybe I misunderstood the reason for EFI. > > UEFI is a huge step forward in pretty much all areas and makes booting > both simpler and more powerful. > > Grub on BIOS basically w

Re: [DNG] systemd-udevd: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1

Am Montag, 16. Oktober 2017 schrieb Steve Litt: > > > * UEFI allows for more security with secure boot. E.g. my thinkpad > > > *only* boots things that I have signed with my key. > > Does Devuan have a key? If not, I guess that's all we need to know > about what distro Tobias Hunger REALLY uses. I

Re: [DNG] systemd-udevd: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1

Am Samstag, 21. Oktober 2017 schrieb Arnt Gulbrandsen: > John Franklin writes: > > That’s not an apology. Would you like to try again? > > I'm not Steve, but the occasion fits: > > Tobias, until I read your posting a couple of days ago I did not realise > that UEFI/Secure Boot can be configured

Re: [DNG] systemd-udevd: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1

Am Samstag, 21. Oktober 2017 schrieb Arnt Gulbrandsen: > Dr. Nikolaus Klepp writes: > > Well, that's not true: If you are lucky, your vendor installed > > a bios that allows you seamingly do so. But most likely he > > didn't. Most likely his implementation

Re: [DNG] UEFI and Secure Boot

Am Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2017 schrieb John Morris: > On Tue, 2017-10-24 at 09:01 +0200, marc wrote: > > > Secureboot is designed for them, not for you. You might come > > up with a really exotic use case, where it might help you. But > > if you look at it carefully enough, it relies on secureboo

[DNG] regressions in gnome applications after upgrade from jessie to ascii

Hi all! I upgraded my testsystem from jessie to ascii. Everything went smooth, TDE + devuan running fine. But I oberserved some regressions in GNOME applications, espeially "terminator": - The applications set the working directory to the "~". This is quite a bad surprise, as it breaks compati

Re: [DNG] Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

Am Montag, 30. Oktober 2017 schrieb J. Fahrner: > https://osseu17.sched.com/event/ByYt/replace-your-exploit-ridden-firmware-with-linux-ronald-minnich-google Nice. But it they suffer from the "not invented here"-syndrome: instead of using prooven good busysbox, they rewrite userspace in GO .. oops

Re: [DNG] Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

Am Montag, 30. Oktober 2017 schrieb Didier Kryn: > Le 30/10/2017 à 08:44, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp a écrit : > > Am Montag, 30. Oktober 2017 schrieb J. Fahrner: > >> https://osseu17.sched.com/event/ByYt/replace-your-exploit-ridden-firmware-with-linux-ronald-minnich-google > >

Re: [DNG] Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

oops, I forgot the link to the paper: look at page 4. https://www.usenix.org/system/files/conference/atc15/atc15-paper-minnich.pdf Nik Am Montag, 30. Oktober 2017 schrieb Dr. Nikolaus Klepp: > Am Montag, 30. Oktober 2017 schrieb Didier Kryn: > > Le 30/10/2017 à 08:44, Dr. Nikolaus Klep

Re: [DNG] RMS: was Google abandons UEFI in Chromebooks

Am Samstag, 4. November 2017 schrieb John Hughes: > > On 03/11/17 21:08, J. Fahrner wrote: > > > > Windows NT is based on DEC VMS, not a very modern OS ;-) > > I.E. more "modern" than Unix. > > Being "modern" is not always a good thing.  I'd have assumed that wasn't > a controversial idea aroun

Re: [DNG] WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable

Am Mittwoch, 8. November 2017 schrieb Steve Litt: > On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 21:30:02 +0100 > marc wrote: > > > Hello > > Hi Marc, > > === > Quote from John Hughes > > > I come from a Unix background -- separate /usr was deprecated in > > > the 1990's w

Re: [DNG] (forw) Re: [skeptic] MINIX: ?Intel's hidden in-chip operating system

Am Montag, 13. November 2017 schrieb dan pridgeon: > > From: info at smallinnovations dot nl > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 5:42 AM > Subject: Re: [DNG] (forw) Re: [skeptic] MINIX: ?Intel's hidden in-chip > operating system > > On 09-11-17 02:24, Rick Mo

Re: [DNG] eudev in experimental for ascii

Hi! Am Montag, 27. November 2017 schrieb Jaromil: > > dear DNG readers, > > for those who have Devuan ASCII running, we have a package of eudev in > experimental to test and feedback is very welcome, since this is the > candidate package to substitute udev. eudev is maintained upstream by > tal

Re: [DNG] eudev in experimental for ascii

I forgot to mention: RDX drives got full funtionality back again :-) Am Montag, 27. November 2017 schrieb Dr. Nikolaus Klepp: > Hi! > > > Am Montag, 27. November 2017 schrieb Jaromil: > > > > dear DNG readers, > > > > for those who have Devuan ASCII ru

[DNG] ascii an waiting for dhcp on boot

Hi! When bootin ascii and eth0 is present and configured as dhcp and eth0 is not connected to a network, then the boot process is blocked at ~ 1 minute at the stage where eth0 is configured. This is quite anoying and did not happen on jessie. Is there an easy way to get the old behaviour (i.e.

Re: [DNG] ascii an waiting for dhcp on boot

Hi! Am Mittwoch, 29. November 2017 schrieb Didier Kryn: > Le 29/11/2017 à 08:38, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp a écrit : > > Hi! > > > > When bootin ascii and eth0 is present and configured as dhcp and eth0 is > > not connected to a network, then the boot process is blocked at ~

Re: [DNG] ascii an waiting for dhcp on boot

Hi! On 2017-11-29 08:37, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Hi! > > Am Mittwoch, 29. November 2017 schrieb Didier Kryn: > > Le 29/11/2017 à 08:38, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp a écrit : > > > Hi! > > > > > > When bootin ascii and eth0 is present and configured as

Re: [DNG] ascii an waiting for dhcp on boot

Hi Ralph! Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017 schrieb Ralph Ronnquist: > Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote on 05/12/17 18:41: > > Hi! > > > > On 2017-11-29 08:37, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > >> Hi! > >> > >> Am Mittwoch, 29. November 2017 schrieb Didier Kryn: &

  1   2   3   4   >