[DNG] ..no response on https://talk.devuan.org/t/mirroring-devuan/45/7 so I try here

2015-12-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
devuan.org/ ? ..I have a partial (source,amd64,i386,i386-hurd) lan Debian mirror (bad isp link) and I understand some packages are identical over here at Devuan, so I guess I can play mirror guineapig here. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar be

Re: [DNG] Our friendly community

2015-12-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
. how much disk space do I need to convert my Debian mirror to a Devuan mirror? ..I understand you have no rsync servers going, but e.g. debmirror works with http transport. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...

Re: [DNG] Apply Rainer's patch to netman.

2015-12-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
t; > $ git diff --relative > ../aitor_czr-20.2.2015.patch ...or $ git diff --relative > ../aitor_czr-$(date +%FT%T-%Z).patch oor ;o) $ git diff --relative > \ ../aitor_czr-$(git log |head -n1 |cut -d" " -f2)-$(date +%FT%T-%Z).patch -- ..med vennlig hilsen =

Re: [DNG] Apply Rainer's patch to netman.

2015-12-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 16:42:47 +0100, aitor_czr wrote in message <5676cc77.9030...@gnuinos.org>: > > Hi Arnt, > > > On 12/20/2015 02:21 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 13:02:28 +0100, aitor_czr wrote in message > > <567698d4.1080...@gnuino

Re: [DNG] Apply Rainer's patch to netman.

2015-12-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 17:52:49 +0100, Arnt wrote in message <20151220175249.6d049...@nb6.lan>: > On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 16:42:47 +0100, aitor_czr wrote in message > <5676cc77.9030...@gnuinos.org>: > > > > > Hi Arnt, > > > > > > On 12/20/2015

Re: [DNG] Don't feed the troll

2015-12-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
basis, instead of a debian-user clone without Don > Armstrong. ..can his subscriptions be auto-rejected? > SteveT > > Steve Litt > November 2015 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques > of the Successful Technologist > http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques --

Re: [DNG] nmap in Debian Wheezy

2015-12-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 09:01:55 -0300, Emiliano wrote in message : > Sorry, I forgot to mention that this system runs Wheezy. ..is Squeeze the last known good Debian? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ances

Re: [DNG] Preferred automounter behavior?

2015-12-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
dd1, /mnt/sdd2, ... Just my > $0.01 worth. > > Greg ..where did the "/media tradition" come from anyway? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case

Re: [DNG] I've got the automounter running

2015-12-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
to try scare the idiots from yanking the removables, while we try finish _all_ the writing to try prepare the media for the inevitable yank, and only then stop the blinky lights and show the "Finished writing to disk, you may now safely remove the disk. Ok." etc eye candy. -- ..med

Re: [DNG] Ian Murdock's Twitter hijacked?

2015-12-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
o improved relevance: https://translate.google.com/ ;o) > ..are we trigger happy today; the key to improved relevance: https://translate.google.com/#auto/en/tvilsomme%20ting%0Aforskjellige%20tvilsomme%20ting%0Adenne%20tvilsomme%20planen -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a n

Re: [DNG] Ian Murdock's Twitter hijacked?

2015-12-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
Hum, ..have I seen this before?: http://dilbert.com/strip/2012-09-27 ..todays translation: http://heltnormalt.no/dilbert/2015/12/29 ..key to improved relevance: https://translate.google.com/ ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear

Re: [DNG] FW: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ed in on demand thru gigabit straws... ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___

Re: [DNG] FW: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-02 Thread Arnt Karlsen
he competition. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.

Re: [DNG] Devuan Weekly News LX

2016-01-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
and the discussion that followed turns out to be instructive > for managing mount points. Teodoro Santoni's comments provide [useful > tips about UUID's][2], Arnt Karlsen talked about the [purpose of ..er, I did not, I asked the (I believe timely) question "..where did the

Re: [DNG] OT: Desktop recording

2016-01-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ws you to insert notes/balloons, pause for user > interaction, and/or mix the video down into different formats? > > [1] http://www.debugmode.com/wink/ > [2] http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/about.php -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a

Re: [DNG] Giving Devuan sans-initramfs capabilities

2016-01-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
; > http://0pointer.net/blog/projects/stateless.html ...which is also © Lennart Poettering. Let them systemd guys prove us wrong in the _long_ run. ;o) ..in the short term, I'm pleasantly surprised to see more traffic here in devuan-* than in debian-user. ;oD -- ..med vennlig hilsen =

Re: [DNG] Devuan Weekly News LX (Errata)

2016-01-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 16:53:00 +, hellekin wrote in message <568aa36c.9010...@dyne.org>: > On 01/04/2016 03:07 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > >> > >> https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan-news/wikis/past-issues/volume-03/issue-060 > >> > >> tips ab

Re: [DNG] a 'rounded' guide to devuan migration and minmalism

2016-01-14 Thread Arnt Karlsen
k group, as it somewhat > hurts security and isn't needed for mounting anyway. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best cas

Re: [DNG] Beware

2016-01-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
entering a > password. ..why did Debian kill ssh into localhost? Is su or sudo safer than ssh nowadays? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case

Re: [DNG] Beware

2016-01-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
kernel-vulnerability-cve-2016-0728/ https://gist.github.com/PerceptionPointTeam/18b1e86d1c0f8531ff8f https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-Kernel-2016-0-Day https://www.debian.org/security/2016/dsa-3448 -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bea

Re: [DNG] Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

2016-01-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
done mostly "to know thy enemy", it's also quite handy for luring in e.g. patent litigation poisons, "good" design ideas, "binary [in the chemical warfare sense] poisons" etc tools to scuttle e.g. GNU, Debian etc Linux, e.g. by telling e.g. our dear Lennart tall st

Re: [DNG] Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

2016-01-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
've heard"... > > Slip of the tongue? > > What do you think? ..money owns political power. > Cheers, > > > Wim > > 2016-01-22 0:34 GMT+01:00 Arnt Karlsen : > > > On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 15:46:55 +0100, Didier wrote in message > > <56a0ef5

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop.

2016-01-26 Thread Arnt Karlsen
time, it will be left standing and form part of case law. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] ..tails boum boum boum: Tails 2.0 is out, systemd "coup d'etat" against torproject.org?

2016-01-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
big nasty pile of things they must fix yesterday, and then "help" them out... ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three:

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop

2016-01-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ime, I overheard an AA commander mention "Geneva" explaining the ban on below-40mm grenades on personell to his gun crew as I passed by to pick up an AA target "drone" I had just landed. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear

Re: [DNG] Never say that again: was Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

2016-01-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
nd ditto agencies. Even if Steve is all right on Karen, she's still a small fish in this game, if my Groklaw etc experience is worth anything. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in

Re: [DNG] Jessie netboot alpha2 (AMD64)

2016-01-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
s.devuan.org/alpha-iso-cd/ ..has anyone here tried innstall off a mini.iso in e.g. http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/dists/jessie/main/installer-amd64/201507023%2Bdevuan/images/netboot/ ??? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in hi

Re: [DNG] Jessie netboot alpha2 (AMD64)

2016-01-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ed innstall off a mini.iso in e.g. > http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/dists/jessie/main/installer-amd64/201507023%2Bdevuan/images/netboot/ > ??? > > -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenari

Re: [DNG] Are my messages delivered?

2016-01-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ere is mail list bounces unsubscribing me. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop.

2016-01-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
bought my last brand new computer in 1997. ;o) ) ..that way you can simply buy new gear with the cheapest possible disk and pour your money on good cpu, ram etc. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios a

Re: [DNG] Jessie netboot alpha2 (AMD64)

2016-01-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
do compared to https://www.debian.org/mirror/size ? ..I never got any response to my first question here: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20151217.015613.57a0b639.en.html -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry.

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop

2016-01-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
litical ..yeah, quite like groklaw.net and devuan... ;oD -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___

Re: [DNG] xserver-xorg-core in Debian unstable now requires libsystemd0

2016-01-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ck ), e.g. I don't understand why the systemd coups were neccessary, if systemd is any good, it should win on its technological merits and on its performance, and not on its banana republic politics. ..so either way, I guess we should try provide a viable non-systemd back-up infrastr

Re: [DNG] ..tails boum boum boum: Tails 2.0 is out, systemd "coup d'etat" against torproject.org?

2016-01-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 13:11:53 +, hellekin wrote in message <56ab6519.8080...@dyne.org>: > Arnt Karlsen: > > > > and: > > https://tails.boum.org/news/version_2.0/index.en.html > > > > ... > > > > Change to systemd as init s

Re: [DNG] xserver-xorg-core in Debian unstable now requires libsystemd0

2016-01-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
do in the mean time. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@l

Re: [DNG] Jessie netboot alpha2 (AMD64)

2016-01-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 19:06:04 +0100, Florian wrote in message <20160128190604.2f421976.f.zieb...@web.de>: > On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 18:20:29 +0100 > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..and we are sure we didn't fall for another > > http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TheKenThompsonHack

Re: [DNG] Never say that again: was Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

2016-01-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
have that choice, > and it's not related to this mailing list. ..one of several problems with that approach, is you will miss e.g. warnings etc info on systemd sabotage on Devuan etc non-systemd distros and on our future clientele, e.g. newspapers, banks, etc. Not a worry this month though. ;o)

Re: [DNG] Never say that again: was Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

2016-01-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 12:15:40 +, hellekin wrote in message <56aca96c.3030...@dyne.org>: > On 01/28/2016 01:16 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > >>>> > >>>> ..small fish, nice tits. ;o) > >>> > >>> The preceding half sentence is one ex

Re: [DNG] Never say that again: was Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

2016-01-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 15:20:43 +, Rainer wrote in message <871t8zjdpw@doppelsaurus.mobileactivedefense.com>: > Arnt Karlsen writes: > > On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 12:15:40 +, hellekin wrote in message > > <56aca96c.3030...@dyne.org>: > >> On 01/

Re: [DNG] ..tails boum boum boum: Tails 2.0 is out, systemd "coup d'etat" against torproject.org?

2016-01-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 14:05:02 +0100 (CET), Rainer wrote in message : > On Fri, 29 Jan 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..as a first step, we should mimick qubes-os.org sans systemd > > and/or pc etc hardware, so we can see and learn etc how etc > > systemd does what it

Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me

2016-01-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
o-i-find-that-out https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Debian+%22what-provides%22 https://duckduckgo.com/?q=linux+%22what-provides%22 -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of

Re: [DNG] Bad UEFI: was Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

2016-02-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
EFI mounted filesystem stuff, the user > probably doesn't | understand what half the things returned by mount > our, and uses a | command that supposedly achieves what he needs. > ` > > I hope you're a bit more careful when taking medical or legal advice. ...or financial a

Re: [DNG] Bad UEFI: was Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

2016-02-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
backed-up etc out of production and into a maintenance mode, where mounting /sys/firmware/efi/efivars read-write, _may_ be warranted. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Bad UEFI: was Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

2016-02-06 Thread Arnt Karlsen
unbootable or worse." Malware > > authors and others who might have bad intentions for your hardware > > generally want it to keep working. > > Perhaps not in warfare. ..against whom? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

2016-02-06 Thread Arnt Karlsen
like it > > actually. > > > > golinux > > IMO, netbarx is the best choice :) > > Aitor. ..it's immune to "netbarf"? ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

2016-02-06 Thread Arnt Karlsen
es to compensate for the absence of their techological etc performance merit. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___

Re: [DNG] writable efi

2016-02-06 Thread Arnt Karlsen
e.g. by reading an "ad" flash movie off a web site and writing it into a new bad /sys/firmware/efi and then "try" a kexec reboot? Etc? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios alway

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

2016-02-06 Thread Arnt Karlsen
offence from my comment on the name, which he may have interpreted as "netbark", I never meant to offend him or anyone else here. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of

Re: [DNG] writable efi

2016-02-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
systemd now, I'd say Donald Trump's run for president will survive Debian. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

2016-02-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
immune to "netbarf"? ;o) ..it is. ;o) ..I vote for netbarx. :o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case.

Re: [DNG] Easynetaid is for now netman's new name

2016-02-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
@celsius:~$ dpkg -l |wc -l 15854 # ..a lot of crap on my Debian Sid box. ;o) arnt@celsius:~$ -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and ju

Re: [DNG] writable efi

2016-02-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 07 Feb 2016 14:47:54 +, Rainer wrote in message <87pow84lwl@doppelsaurus.mobileactivedefense.com>: > Arnt Karlsen writes: > > On Sun, 7 Feb 2016 10:42:04 +, Dave wrote in message > > <56b71f7c.9060...@barradas.free-online.co.uk>: > >> My

Re: [DNG] writable efi

2016-02-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 07 Feb 2016 13:10:16 +, Rainer wrote in message <87h9hkmzt3@doppelsaurus.mobileactivedefense.com>: > Arnt Karlsen writes: > > > [...] > > >> > /sys/firmware/ and everything in it is mounted rw on my Gigabyte > >> > legacy board wit

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 17, Issue 39

2016-02-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
flavor a year ago, rather than todays Raspian Jessie. I have one of each ready for guinea pig service. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst c

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 17, Issue 39

2016-02-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 7 Feb 2016 22:09:44 +, KatolaZ wrote in message <20160207220944.gc...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Sun, Feb 07, 2016 at 10:49:48PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > > > If it is inly a matter of recompiling for armhf with the

Re: [DNG] Migration to devuan Jessie failed on rpi-zero

2016-02-08 Thread Arnt Karlsen
t off Raspian Wheezy? ..acconding to the foundation, it's "A(?)+ minus camera" etc and clocked 30% faster, which might cause a need for slightly higher cpu etc voltage settings. > The problem wouldn't be compiling the packages, which can be done with > a cross-compiler

Re: [DNG] Migration to devuan Jessie failed on rpi-zero

2016-02-08 Thread Arnt Karlsen
quot; > I have no experience in setting up a distro, toolchain and > the like but always prepared to learn something new. It would be > usefull for myself too because my next webradio will be a Pi Zero in > a lunchbox. > > Nick -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards fr

Re: [DNG] Migration to devuan Jessie failed on rpi-zero

2016-02-09 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 18:46:11 +0100, info wrote in message <56ba25e3.2080...@smallinnovations.nl>: > On 09-02-16 06:21, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 14:24:39 +0100 From: Arnt Karlsen > > To: dng@lists.dyne.org Subject: Re: [DNG] > >

Re: [DNG] state of what's working for modern desktop usage

2016-02-09 Thread Arnt Karlsen
med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Are you still paranoid if you turned out to be right?

2016-02-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
't (or at least usually don't) > sell 'code access rights' should be taken with a grain of salt. ..he also wrote this piece: http://www.infoworld.com/article/2692889/open-source-software/coreos-an-existential-threat-to-linux-vendors.html where his "Red Hat goes Atomic on Core

Re: [DNG] Are you still paranoid if you turned out to be right?

2016-02-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
hree give you the feel for what I'm talking > about. ..you were too naïve and not nearly paranoid enough: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/NEWS ..our dear Lennart explained my Sid networking problems: ;o) https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Systemd-2016-F

Re: [DNG] Enlightenment anyone? ;)

2016-02-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
o devuan? It's Perrrsssonal now. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case.

Re: [DNG] systemd==bad

2016-02-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
x27;m about to start adding Wheezy LTS > repos to my systems. ..this would be the very best starting point for Devuan as a distro. > > But then I still have Squeeze and Lenny systems running (they aren't > broken ...) - don't think I have anything older than that ! -- ..m

Re: [DNG] Devuan Rpi2 Lxde

2016-03-12 Thread Arnt Karlsen
is what aitor is rightfully doing. The > packages are already there, and there is no need to support another > port... ..this means Devuan is _not_ the answer for the millions of armv6+FP2/rpi0/1 users out there. Pity, we could have used them here. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Re

[DNG] ..booting an old Sid->Ceres past runlevel 1... no login joy

2016-05-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
anyone have a lean Devuan machine so I can see /etc/rcS.d/ and /etc/rc2.d/ listings? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: b

Re: [DNG] ..booting an old Sid->Ceres past runlevel 1... no login joy

2016-05-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 18 May 2016 13:05:31 -0400, Boruch wrote in message <20160518170531.gk32...@e15-2016.optimum.net>: > On 2016-05-18 18:24, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > DNG, I'm still left with runlevel 1, the damned thin will only > > accept root's passwd on the console, I can

Re: [DNG] ..booting an old Sid->Ceres past runlevel 1... no login joy

2016-05-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 18 May 2016 19:23:27 +0200, Irrwahn wrote in message <48e882e7-9b75-2bb5-769f-a93c4126e...@freenet.de>: > On Wed, 18 May 2016 18:24:23 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > [about booting a system after Debian\Sid to Devuan\Ceres transition] > > > ..now having thrown

[DNG] ..all joy now, was: ..booting an old Sid->Ceres past runlevel 1... no login joy

2016-05-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 18 May 2016 16:10:19 -0400, Boruch wrote in message <20160518201019.ga1...@e15-2016.optimum.net>: > On 2016-05-18 21:27, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Wed, 18 May 2016 13:05:31 -0400, Boruch wrote in message > > > Sounds to me like an issue with 'pam', an

Re: [DNG] Artistic decisions - keyboard mappings

2016-05-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ke this: > > > > setxkbmap -option caps:none > > Yes, and where should I put this command? ..and, can it be disabled or reset automagically after e.g. 30 seconds? Or on e.g. leaving the text editor briefly? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a

Re: [DNG] Artistic decisions - keyboard mappings

2016-05-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
t man timeout. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing

Re: [DNG] Pulseaudio ...

2016-05-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
software#Sound_servers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_server ..why not try https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JACK_Audio_Connection_Kit on ditching PulseAudio? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunter

Re: [DNG] postgres

2016-05-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
portbug postgres ". ..we have reportbug set up to devuan.org and not debian.org? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best

Re: [DNG] Linux-libre-4.5.4

2016-05-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
Aitor. ..thank you! :o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Request for Removal of slim package from Devuan

2016-05-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
it kills the graphics, keyboard and touch pad drivers. Ssh-ing in works, but the easiest fix is yank the power, do a fsck boot and then boot to the console and switch to kdm or wdm etc. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in hi

Re: [DNG] You might have seen this already...

2016-05-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
goes beyond money, these guys act like they try to win WWIII, e.g. by subverting GNU/Linux to defeat Tor. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best

Re: [DNG] apt-get upgrade does nothing

2016-05-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
a lot > of packages would be old and in need of upgrade. Does anyone have any > suggestions? ../etc/apt/sources.list etc points to the right mirrors and is correctly seen by apt, dns etc? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters

Re: [DNG] Linux-libre-4.5.4

2016-05-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 29 May 2016 16:12:10 +0200, Jaromil wrote in message <20160529141210.GC13046@reflex>: > On Sat, 28 May 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > It would be a test bed for Devuan... > > > > ..maybe a side-by-side installation, so we can boot e.g." >

Re: [DNG] Request for Removal of slim package from Devuan

2016-05-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
up a patch if there isn't already. > > Also worth pointing out that lilo is without an upstream maintainer > as of recently. ..which means it too may develop into a problem. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ance

Re: [DNG] apt-get upgrade does nothing

2016-05-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
27; deb http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-updates main deb-src http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-updates main -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: be

Re: [DNG] Request for Removal of slim package from Devuan

2016-05-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
new bug-fix build coming out of git that will need guinea pigs. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case,

Re: [DNG] Request for Removal of slim package from Devuan

2016-05-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 30 May 2016 13:26:03 +0200, Irrwahn wrote in message : > On Mon, 30 May 2016 13:08:21 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Mon, 30 May 2016 09:51:20 +0100, dev1fanboy wrote in message > > <49f74ba291012d3690f645b43a2f79c0.startm...@www.startmail.com>: > > &g

Re: [DNG] Linux-libre-4.5.4

2016-05-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 30 May 2016 13:36:43 +0200, Jaromil wrote in message <20160530113643.GB32479@reflex>: > On Sun, 29 May 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > we'd love to have a vdev package, but maintainance of it in > > > Devuan is not yet assigned. please note tha

Re: [DNG] Linux-libre-4.5.4

2016-05-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 30 May 2016 17:15:54 +0200, Jaromil wrote in message <20160530151554.GA19164@reflex>: > > > dear Arnt, > > On Mon, 30 May 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..this far I'm only aware of political, military, monetary etc > > power/might reasons w

Re: [DNG] Linux-libre-4.5.4

2016-05-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 30 May 2016 20:15:23 +0100, Antonio wrote in message : > On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Svante Signell > wrote: > > > On Mon, 2016-05-30 at 17:15 +0200, Jaromil wrote: > > > > > > dear Arnt, > > > > > > On Mon, 30 May 2016, Arnt K

[DNG] ..weird new zzz-dist on Debian mirrors, to defeat us?, Fw: zzz-dist

2016-05-31 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ebian-mirr...@lists.debian.org Subject: zzz-dist > Hi, > > I found new 'zzz-dists' directory on mirror servers. > What is zzz-dists ? > > http://ftp.debian.org/debian/zzz-dists/ > > -- > ISHIKAWA Mutsumi > , > -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards fro

Re: [DNG] ..weird new zzz-dist on Debian mirrors, to defeat us?, Fw: zzz-dist

2016-05-31 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 00:12:58 +0200, Jaromil wrote in message <20160531221258.GA9551@reflex>: > On Tue, 31 May 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..weird new zzz-dist is pushed out on Debian mirrors, > > to defeat our "merged" mirror scheme???, Fw: zzz-dist >

[DNG] ..is there a way to block bad mirrors?

2016-06-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
R] Unable to connect to ftp.acc.umu.se:http: [IP:130.239.18.173 80]", which denies me mariadb-test-data, python-matplotlib-data, python-numpy-doc, selektor, urweb-doc, urwed-mode and a bunch of libspring-*, which is why I prefer setting up my own devuan mirror. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = wi

Re: [DNG] ..is there a way to block bad mirrors?

2016-06-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists

[DNG] ..setting up my own lan Devuan mirror, was: ..is there a way to block bad mirrors?

2016-06-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 13:30:58 +0200, Jaromil wrote in message <20160601113058.GA8132@reflex>: > On Wed, 01 Jun 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..is there a way to block out bad devuan mirrors? > > I'm having trouble getting a few packages out of > > ftp.a

Re: [DNG] man init

2016-06-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
T(8) NAME init, telinit - process control initialization SYNOPSIS /sbin/init [ -a ] [ -s ] [ -b ] [ -z xxx ] [ 0123456Ss ] /sbin/telinit [ -t SECONDS ] [ 0123456sSQqabcUu ] /sbin/telinit [ -e VAR[=VAL] ] DESCRIPTION " -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards

Re: [DNG] Caching binary .deb packages

2016-06-06 Thread Arnt Karlsen
in du -sch) is packages.devuan.org? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] How to acknowledge ported version of Open Source program?

2016-06-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
as themselves, which is why you _can_ write your own program as a drop-in replacement to the original C program you once thought of to try port. ..to protect ideas, you need to patent them, which may be done in combinations with copyright protections and contractual terms in e.g. any canned EULA worm

Re: [DNG] resolved

2016-06-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
med at you, either way, you do not wanna have a cranky cranked up nuke in your laptop. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst

Re: [DNG] How to acknowledge ported version of Open Source program?

2016-06-08 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ation over to the programmer guy (or gal) who then writes a program reimplementing those specified ideas. ..a different language reimplementation of the eriginal ideas will most probably require at least some manmade "new work" under copyright law. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with K

Re: [DNG] Killing background processes on logout [was Re: resolved]

2016-06-09 Thread Arnt Karlsen
I should've said 'operators' or 'developers' > rather than 'users'. ..say 'operators' and||or||and/or 'developers', depending on context. > I really need to work harder at getting myself up to speed so I can > actually be 'useful

[DNG] ..another new(?) step towards Debian systemd: linux-image-4.6.0-1[-rt]-amd-signed, with MSTF keys...

2016-06-11 Thread Arnt Karlsen
really need to stop relying on untrustworthy people. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case

Re: [DNG] secure boot

2016-06-12 Thread Arnt Karlsen
> Windows 8 Logo program (obviously to stave off accusations from the > > EU). It is gone for Windows 10 Logo, and thus you can expect > > hardware vendors to drop it -- such > > features cause development and support costs. This would be the > > case even with no un

Re: [DNG] Shim

2016-06-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
re you ok with them viewing you as a crack head conspiracy theorist until they know, or get get first hand experience the hard way themselves? ..good luck, you'll need it! -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry..

Re: [DNG] Mini init script written in Perl boots.

2016-06-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bi

Re: [DNG] policykit - another time ...

2016-07-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
are left with two options: either elaborate > a polkit-shim or discard applications which use it. > > Didier ..is there no --without-policykit switch we can use to recompile? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunte

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