On Mon, 30 May 2016 17:15:54 +0200, Jaromil wrote in message <20160530151554.GA19164@reflex>:
> > > dear Arnt, > > On Mon, 30 May 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..this far I'm only aware of political, military, monetary etc > > power/might reasons why these zealots would want to subvert us, but > > I dunno enough on the tech details on how, when and where they would > > do that to us. > > I don't think anyone developing systemd is focusing at disrupting > alternatives. when that happens, is only because of their myopic > approach of rewriting and substituting everything that exists... ..no, they went into distros the banana republic politics way. And then we have those mission creepy next steps. > > > why systemd-udev can subvert vdev. I'd be surprised to say the > > > least. > > > > ..then you are too damned naïve. BTDT, still bleeding. > > ...so yea, I'm not aware of active subversion played by systemd, but > I'd be happy to know about past episodes. They obviously don't care > about anything else but their own success, but then I think we should > limit ourselves to assume "good faith" and just call it ignorance, > incompetence and arrogance. ..now that there, is ignorant denial. "Lead your target, if you wanna stop it from nuking you", is what I helped teach our AA gunners. ..the Norwegian political surveillance police chief is very explicit for a secret service Norwegian officer, in todays Dagbladet.no: http://www.dagbladet.no/kultur/tillit-kan-ikke-tas-for-gitt/60141390 or https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dagbladet.no%2Fkultur%2Ftillit-kan-ikke-tas-for-gitt%2F60141390&edit-text= ..the Norwegian secret service tradition is the delay&deny-loop for _years_ after the entire world knows they're doing it. ;o) And "it's only against terrorism" and that creepy mission creep. > Time will tell who was right, ..you're betting on Edward Snowdon as the man behind systemd? ;o) Would change _everything_. > I think we > are fighting pretty well our fight and that we should focus at making > our own initiative better and finding more allies for it. ..aye, and meanwhile I agree it's wise to duck and evade enemy fire instead of yahooing straight into it. > > ..I should have said "packaged into .debs ready for user tests?", > > Parazyd is planning to package Openrc. > > vdev has alreadyscripts for packaging, but needs a maintainer I think. > > nothing else so far. I personally try them out installing from source. > > ciao ..ok, thanks. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
