On 20/11/17 11:30, Jaromil wrote:
1- it [ rc.local ] is not created by default
It exists on my stretch systems. As Olaf Meeuwissen said it is created
by initscripts.postinst:
#
# Create /etc/rc.local on first time install and when upgrading from
# versions before "2.86.ds1-16"
Hello.
On my HP EliteBook laptop, where I've just upgraded from
Debian-Wheezy to Devuan-Jessie, the SD cards don't show up on the Xfce
desktop, while USB devices still do.
I have checked that /dev/mmcblk0p1 is created - when there is only
one partition.
On my HP desktop with th
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017, John Hughes wrote:
>On 20/11/17 11:30, Jaromil wrote:
>
> 1- it [ rc.local ] is not created by default
>
>It exists on my stretch systems.
I always and only mean Debian 9. So I will reformulate:
1- /etc/rc.local does not exist by default on Debian 9.
this is not
Hi Didier,
On 11/21/2017 12:59 PM, Didier Kryn wrote:
Hello.
On my HP EliteBook laptop, where I've just upgraded from
Debian-Wheezy to Devuan-Jessie, the SD cards don't show up on the Xfce
desktop, while USB devices still do.
I have checked that /dev/mmcblk0p1 is created - when t
Hi again Didier,
On 11/20/2017 02:23 PM, aitor_czr wrote:
Hi Didier,
On 11/21/2017 12:59 PM, Didier Kryn wrote:
Hello.
On my HP EliteBook laptop, where I've just upgraded from
Debian-Wheezy to Devuan-Jessie, the SD cards don't show up on the
Xfce desktop, while USB devices still do
The problem persists
I come from:
debian whezy to debian jessie
debian jessie to devuan jessie
devuan jessie to devuan ascii
*
root@(none):/mnt/datos/sistemas/linux/devuan# sh rdascii.sh
=
Actualizan
Hi Jaromil, list,
Jaromil writes:
> dear Olaf,
>
> On Mon, 20 Nov 2017, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
>
>> Crying wolf like this time and again is not doing Devuan any good.
>
> No, I am the wolf.
I do not mean this personally. I just recalled the mail that set off
the redis discussion and this one an
On 21/11/17 14:21, Jaromil wrote:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017, John Hughes wrote:
On 20/11/17 11:30, Jaromil wrote:
1- it [ rc.local ] is not created by default
It exists on my stretch systems.
I always and only mean Debian 9. So I will reformulate:
1- /etc/rc.local does not exist by defa
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 14:48:49 +0100
John Hughes wrote:
>
> No, no systemctl commands are needed, systemd-rc-local-generator will
> enable rc-local.service if /etc/rc.local is executable, which it is
> by default on Debian Stretch (AKA Debian 9).
>
Yes, but will 'systemd-rc-local-generator' exi
On 21/11/17 11:58, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
A quick check of the packages that would pull [ initscripts ] in (as per
massaged
`apt-cache rdepends`) on Stretch gives:
$ apt-cache rdepends initscripts | sed -n '/^ /p' | while read pkg; do \
echo $pkg ; apt-cache depends $pkg | grep initscri
On 21/11/17 14:54, Rowland Penny wrote:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 14:48:49 +0100
John Hughes wrote:
No, no systemctl commands are needed, systemd-rc-local-generator will
enable rc-local.service if /etc/rc.local is executable, which it is
by default on Debian Stretch (AKA Debian 9).
Yes, but will '
dear John and Olaf,
Thanks for proving me wrong, this is exactly what I hoped for.
In fact my mail was perhaps badly worded and contained already a rant,
but was really about asking this list for a critical analysis. For 2
main reasons: 1) there are very knowledgeable people (like you both)
that
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 03:07:07PM +0100, John Hughes wrote:
[cut]
>
> If you have the initscripts package installed then /etc/rc.local will be
> created for you (if it doesn't exist) and it will be run (if you are using
> sysvinit or systemd at least).
>
> If you don't install initscripts (i.e
On 21/11/17 15:20, Jaromil wrote:
dear John and Olaf,
Thanks for proving me wrong, this is exactly what I hoped for.
I'm not actually sure you've been "proved wrong" -- in the case of a
Debian 9 system without the initscripts package installed (i.e. a fresh
install with systemd as pid 1 for
On 21/11/17 15:53, KatolaZ wrote:
Also, it is not clear to me *when* the automagic systemd tool that
should create the systemd service (if rc.local is executable) is
run.
man systemd.generator
...
Generators are small binaries that live in
/usr/lib/systemd/user-generators/ and ot
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 04:05:47PM +0100, John Hughes wrote:
> On 21/11/17 15:53, KatolaZ wrote:
> >
> >Also, it is not clear to me *when* the automagic systemd tool that
> >should create the systemd service (if rc.local is executable) is
> >run.
>
> man systemd.generator
> ...
> Generators
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017, John Hughes wrote:
> > Then I believe we also agree that rc.local is a serious regressions?
>
> What regression?
the fact that besides creating it and making it executable, one must
also activate the service unit.
> > In Debian right now I don't even see a debate,
>
> A de
Le 20/11/2017 à 14:37, aitor_czr a écrit :
Hi again Didier,
On 11/20/2017 02:23 PM, aitor_czr wrote:
Hi Didier,
On 11/21/2017 12:59 PM, Didier Kryn wrote:
Hello.
On my HP EliteBook laptop, where I've just upgraded from
Debian-Wheezy to Devuan-Jessie, the SD cards don't show up on
On 21/11/17 16:19, Jaromil wrote:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017, John Hughes wrote:
Then I believe we also agree that rc.local is a serious regressions?
What regression?
the fact that besides creating it and making it executable, one must
also activate the service unit.
No, you don't. systemd runs s
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017, John Hughes wrote:
> On 21/11/17 16:19, Jaromil wrote:
> > On Tue, 21 Nov 2017, John Hughes wrote:
> >
> > > > Then I believe we also agree that rc.local is a serious regressions?
> > > What regression?
> > the fact that besides creating it and making it executable, one must
On 21/11/17 16:19, Jaromil wrote:
no, the "rumors" I refer to are, as I said, coming from an upstream
project whose CI has broken.
You said:
Here the rumors I've heard from bitcoin core development: a CI script
was broken for three reasons, of which the mandatory activation of
rc.local via s
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017, John Hughes wrote:
>I followed your link to "gitian-building-setup-gitian-debian.md"
>
>Which says that you need to create the rc.local and reboot. I see no
>mention of systemctl. Am I looking in the wrong place?
nono, as I wrote: that script doesn't works anym
On 21/11/17 17:53, Jaromil wrote:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017, John Hughes wrote:
I followed your link to "gitian-building-setup-gitian-debian.md"
Which says that you need to create the rc.local and reboot. I see no
mention of systemctl. Am I looking in the wrong place?
nono, as I wrote
When I check the file does not exist: /root/.gnupg/trustedkeys.kbx
But I do not know when and how it is created
Bets Regards
--
Ismael
Devuan User : http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=devuan
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From: "Ismael L. Donis Garcia"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, November 21,
Hi Didier,
On 11/21/2017 04:37 PM, Didier Kryn wrote:
Le 20/11/2017 à 14:37, aitor_czr a écrit :
Hi again Didier,
On 11/20/2017 02:23 PM, aitor_czr wrote:
Hi Didier,
On 11/21/2017 12:59 PM, Didier Kryn wrote:
Hello.
On my HP EliteBook laptop, where I've just upgraded from
Debian
Hi Ismael,
On 11/21/2017 06:18 PM, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote:
gpgv: Firmado el mar 21 nov 2017 02:04:03 CST
gpgv: usando RSA clave 94532124541922FB
gpgv: Imposible comprobar la firma: No public key
.temp/.tmp/dists/ascii/InRelease signature does not verify.
Parsing Packages an
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017, John Hughes wrote:
>Come to think about it, if the problem was that their rc.local
>was failing somewhere then they should be able to see that in the
>output of systemctl or journalctl.
>
>Assuming they're using systemd, of course. :-)
Not really. Its not ju
Le 20/11/2017 à 19:13, aitor_czr a écrit :
Hi Didier,
On 11/21/2017 04:37 PM, Didier Kryn wrote:
Le 20/11/2017 à 14:37, aitor_czr a écrit :
Hi again Didier,
On 11/20/2017 02:23 PM, aitor_czr wrote:
Hi Didier,
On 11/21/2017 12:59 PM, Didier Kryn wrote:
Hello.
On my HP EliteBook
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 14:53:28 +
KatolaZ wrote:
> As Olaf explained, the problem seems to originate in the fact that the
> initscripts package is not any more marked as important. Hence, if you
> don't have it, you won't get it by default. I personally agree on the
> fact that this is somehow a
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 05:53:49PM +0100, Jaromil wrote:
>
> nono, as I wrote: that script doesn't works anymore, if ran on a
> freshly debootstrapped version of Debian 9. It seemed that rc.local
> wasn't executed anymore. But there is some confusion, since both brctl
> and ifconfig are legitimatel
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 22:55:36 -0500
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > nono, as I wrote: that script doesn't works anymore, if ran on a
> > freshly debootstrapped version of Debian 9. It seemed that rc.local
> > wasn't executed anymore. But there is some confusion, since both
> > brctl and ifconfig are legit
the official line is that the "ip" command replaces "ifconfig". I only use
the Busybox version of ifconfig. You could use the Busybox version in the
interim. The ip command is cool, though.
jacksprat
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On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 22:55:36 -0500
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 05:53:49PM +0100, Jaromil wrote:
> >
> > nono, as I wrote: that script doesn't works anymore, if ran on a
> > freshly debootstrapped version of Debian 9. It seemed that rc.local
> > wasn't executed anymore. But there
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From: aitor_czr
To: dng@lists.dyne.org ; Ismael L. Donis Garcia
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [DNG] Error when updating from jessie to ascii 32bit
Hi Ismael,
On 11/21/2017 06:18 PM, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote:
gpgv: Firmado el mar 21 nov
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 10:32:34PM +, jacksprat wrote:
> the official line is that the "ip" command replaces "ifconfig". I only use
> the Busybox version of ifconfig. You could use the Busybox version in the
> interim. The ip command is cool, though.
No one is removing ifconfig yet, it's me
On Tue, 2017-11-21 at 23:50 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
>
> No one is removing ifconfig yet, it's merely not installed by default
> anymore -- so if you insist, just "apt install net-tools".
>
> ifconfig is inadequate for a number of widespread setups, though, and will
> provide bad output withou
I find it quite confusing to have a collection of "commands" with space
in the name, as if it would be a single command with lots of sub
commands in it. But then, "the colour of the button isn't that
important" -- it all hangs on the documentation.
Apparently there an "IP Command reference ip-
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 05:34:15PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 22:55:36 -0500
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 05:53:49PM +0100, Jaromil wrote:
> > >
> > > nono, as I wrote: that script doesn't works anymore, if ran on a
> > > freshly debootstrapped version o
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 03:47:26PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 14:53:28 +
> KatolaZ wrote:
>
> > As Olaf explained, the problem seems to originate in the fact that the
> > initscripts package is not any more marked as important. Hence, if you
> > don't have it, you won't ge
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
> A program called ip. It has commands such as ip route, ip addr, ip
> link, and several others. It's confusing and underdocumented, but so is
> ifconfig (which I never even began to master).
I have a knowledgebase item 'iproute2 transition' on
http
On 11/20/2017 10:55 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 05:53:49PM +0100, Jaromil wrote:
>>
>> nono, as I wrote: that script doesn't works anymore, if ran on a
>> freshly debootstrapped version of Debian 9. It seemed that rc.local
>> wasn't executed anymore. But there is some confusio
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 18:21:14 +0100, John wrote in message
:
> (Damn but the systemd journal is great :-))
..is there a way to decode and read those binary systemd journal logs
on classic POSIX/Unix etc forensic systems _not_ running systemd?
--
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from A
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 02:59:11AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 18:21:14 +0100, John wrote in message
> :
>
> > (Damn but the systemd journal is great :-))
>
> ..is there a way to decode and read those binary systemd journal logs
> on classic POSIX/Unix etc forensic systems _
On 22/11/17 02:59, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 18:21:14 +0100, John wrote in message
:
(Damn but the systemd journal is great :-))
..is there a way to decode and read those binary systemd journal logs
on classic POSIX/Unix etc forensic systems _not_ running systemd?
Is there an
On 22/11/17 06:50, KatolaZ wrote:
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 02:59:11AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
..is there a way to decode and read those binary systemd journal logs
on classic POSIX/Unix etc forensic systems _not_ running systemd?
No, there is no way to do that, and we are probably spiralli
On 21/11/17 19:46, Jaromil wrote:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017, John Hughes wrote:
Come to think about it, if the problem was that their rc.local
was failing somewhere then they should be able to see that in the
output of systemctl or journalctl.
Assuming they're using systemd, of cour
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 02:59:11 +0100
Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 18:21:14 +0100, John wrote in message
> :
>
> > (Damn but the systemd journal is great :-))
A T
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Le 22/11/2017 à 07:19, John Hughes a écrit :
Is there any way to read a file in format X without a program that
reads format X?
The question is why use yet another "proprietary format"? Just to
force people to be use systemd for every task they need to do with their
computer.
The l
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