dear John and Olaf, Thanks for proving me wrong, this is exactly what I hoped for.
In fact my mail was perhaps badly worded and contained already a rant, but was really about asking this list for a critical analysis. For 2 main reasons: 1) there are very knowledgeable people (like you both) that often are capable of checking better than me 2) I am a lazy wolf and prefer writing a mail than checking myself. I also note as you point out that this behavior may be counterproductive for the public perception of this project: a way or another I also represent Devuan and maybe I should hold off this attitude and post only things that I am sure of. This is difficult for me, since I conceive spaces for debate as this and other mailinglists as spaces where to share doubts, fears, needs and dreams even more than findings and announcements, for which an article or a twit @DevuanOrg may be better. anyway, point taken. I know well that I'm wrong sometimes, just like now. So now I agree that considering this and the other discussion about redis, there is no real "vandalism" happening in Debian. About redis was just a maintainer fumbling around broken scripts through releases, while the rc.local case its just that people don't care about the regressions introduced by systemd. Then I believe we also agree that rc.local is a serious regressions? because it now needs to be activated via two new systemctl commands, forcing millions of people around the world to go lookup those commands instead of keeping the default. I believe defaults should be kept intact. In the worst case there should be clear documentation of their change. In Debian right now I don't even see a debate, only rumors of "deprecation" in other avenues. Whatever that may mean for Debian and its future. ciao _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
