Hi.
>> I don't support Fedora because it is not a free distro.
>
> Why do you say that Fedora is not a Free distro?
"Fedora does have a clear policy about what can be included in the
distribution, and it seems to be followed carefully. The policy requires
that most software and all fonts be avai
On 23/02/2022 15:40, Quiliro Ordóñez wrote:
> Hi.
>
>>> I don't support Fedora because it is not a free distro.
>>
>> Why do you say that Fedora is not a Free distro?
>
> "Fedora does have a clear policy about what can be included in the
> distribution, and it seems to be followed carefully. Th
El 2022-02-23 09:44, Daniel Pocock escribió:
> The censorship of certain blogs from Planet Fedora and censorship of
> certain developers on mailing lists
Censorship would also be a good reason for me not supporting them. But
I have not investigated that case.
_
Hello,
the freedom no. 0 is to use software for any purpose.
If you want to use software on a special computer model, you might need
non-free firmware. That is bad enough.
It isn't a restriction by licence but an actual one.
So distributors as users have the choice:
Either to use (or distri
Thank you for your take on this issue, Michael.
El 2022-02-23 10:49, Dr. Michael Stehmann escribió:
> Hello,
>
> the freedom no. 0 is to use software for any purpose.
>
> If you want to use software on a special computer model, you might
> need non-free firmware. That is bad enough.
>
> It isn'
Hello,
Am 23.02.22 um 17:19 schrieb Quiliro Ordóñez:
The choice for the user is to dump either the nonfree software or to
dump the hardware. The later choice is the best one because the user
will think about what she buys next time. It is a way to take
responsability and stop relying the abun
El 2022-02-23 13:10, Dr. Michael Stehmann escribió:
> Hello,
>
> Am 23.02.22 um 17:19 schrieb Quiliro Ordóñez:
>
>> The choice for the user is to dump either the nonfree software or to
>> dump the hardware. The later choice is the best one because the user
>> will think about what she buys next
> Oh, you want to educate the user to use his/hers freedom in a proper way.
> That's interesting!
Freedom has typically moved forward more quickly with advocacy and
education (to the benefit of the free) than without. This doesn't negate
the idea that such opportunities to educate can be abuse
El 2022-02-23 18:13, faifl...@danwin1210.de escribió:
>> Oh, you want to educate the user to use his/hers freedom in a proper way.
>
>> That's interesting!
>
>
> Freedom has typically moved forward more quickly with advocacy and
> education (to the benefit of the free) than without. This doesn't
With each of your messages, I understand your position better.
El 2022-02-23 17:52, faifl...@danwin1210.de escribió:
>> since Richard is a stronghold for freedom, we are relatively save
> while he maintains it.
>
> He really isn't anymore. His position was clearly weakened even years
> before the
Figo:
> Of course. The problem as I see it is not dissent, even I dissent. The
> problem I think is that Free Software has lost the ball to the other team
"Lost the ball"? that sounds really pessimistic. This is not what we need
if we are going to inspire and activate the Free Software Movement
I appreciate what the last email says about delegating, but can’t wholly
agree with the assertion that the failure is on the part of followers- it
specifically falls on FSF not the broader base.
This excerpt from “A Club is Not a Movement” (
https://news.techworkerscoalition.org/2021/10/26/issue-2
You realize I didn’t write that article, yes?
Maybe give it a read in-full first, and then consider its main point:
effective base building and movement organizing is difficult given the
tendencies in FSF and LibrePlanet and elsewhere that are more inclined to
favor their own small in-groups (club
I have to say, so much of this list is marked with passionate commentary
that is less kind and caring, and more aggressive and impatient. I wonder
if that might have something to do with the failure of free software as a
movement, more than FSF or LibrePlanet (or LiePlanet).
On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 a
You sound like a nice person.
But seriously, the point is that a small group of free software acolytes
are that club; perhaps some of them are on this list.
Consider, by analogy, the citizen science movement; it has very few
spokespeople, and very many groups facilitating involvement among curiou
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