I have to say, so much of this list is marked with passionate commentary that is less kind and caring, and more aggressive and impatient. I wonder if that might have something to do with the failure of free software as a movement, more than FSF or LibrePlanet (or LiePlanet).
On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 7:04 PM <faifl...@danwin1210.de> wrote: > > You realize I didn’t write that article, yes? > > Yes. And you realise my critique isn't with the article, but with you > wrote, yes? > > > > Maybe give it a read in-full first, and then consider its main point: > effective base building and movement organizing is difficult given the > tendencies in FSF and LibrePlanet and elsewhere that are more inclined to > favor their own small in-groups (clubs) over possible newcomers out there.. > > > Yours is an oversimplification. > > At a certain level of organisation in-groups (clubs or otherwise) are > unavoidable, and not always detrimental. Attacking them for existing in > the first place is also pointless. There are of course aspects of these > that are worth addressing, but only if they are addressed in a way that > doesn't create much more tragic problems (like the destruction of the > whole thing, which is tragic). LiePlanet has only made things worse, but > in the short run-- the short run really doesn't matter here. It's their > mistake to grab quick results-- it will collapse. > > An increasing number of people believe it already has. Some even argue (as > I) that this is the inevitable outcome. > > Clubs are not the entire picture. But as to overall strategy, you > underestimate what is possible with a few of the right people in the right > place at the right time. That's not the goal, obviously-- and the FSF has > indeed failed to gain the numbers it wants to. > > This didn't happen in a vacuum. Many of the FSF's failures are due to > counter-revolutionary tactics from the same people LiePlanet has chosen to > side with. They seek success by changing sides, but this is not a favour > to Free Software. It is the triumph (for now) of Open Source, which above > all is a lie, a scam. And NOT Free Software. Not even about freedom. > > Now, as to the article, that's another matter. I am pro-union and consider > (at this point) joining unions to be a better strategy than joining the > FSF. The FSF is dead. > > But that's no reason to join Open Source, which stands for nothing-- and > can bring in so many people stand for nothing alongside it! > > > Instead, people should take Free Software and bring it to unions. Not > because I said so, only because it will work better than kowtowing to the > ridiculous and empty pageant the coup has turned the FSF into. > > > _______________________________________________ > Discussion mailing list > Discussion@lists.fsfellowship.eu > https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/mailman/listinfo/discussion >
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