You sound like a nice person. But seriously, the point is that a small group of free software acolytes are that club; perhaps some of them are on this list.
Consider, by analogy, the citizen science movement; it has very few spokespeople, and very many groups facilitating involvement among curious minds. I’ve yet to see anything anywhere in free software gatherings (except in Cuba) approaching that kind of inclusive space with nice people. Instead it’s almost all been gatekeeping by “smart jerks” and the like who would prefer to huddle with their existing friends. Which is fine, I suppose, for a club, but a failure for a movement. And that’s completely and entirely besides the point that corporate conferences are better organized. Don’t get distracted by that point. As a PS- I think a few hacker spaces have also been an exception to the rule, but those were not explicitly focused on free software, they are invariably committed to liberation from larger social structural nonsense, like police spying on non-white neighbors with ineffectual and biased tech systems. On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 7:25 PM <faifl...@danwin1210.de> wrote: > > I have to say, so much of this list is marked with passionate commentary > that is less kind and caring, and more aggressive and impatient. > > You're being sanctimonious, Danny. What happened through LiePlanet was a > witchburning, a lynch mob. It's hilarious when that a lynch mob says > things like "you don't want free speech, you just want freedom from > consequences." > > As if they're about due process and democracy and FREEDOM, and not a > fucking lynch mob! > > Turns out the article is mostly Deb Nicholson's work. Doesn't mean all the > points are invalid, but anybody can take a pile of valid points and crap > out a pile of them with their own scent. > > Can't say I'll ever care what that person has to say. > > NOT A SLANT AGAINST THE WEBSITE, which so far, seems to have simply > published what someone gave them. Not sure about the website one way or > the other. But Deb Nicholson is a hypocrite extraordinaire. > > > > > I wonder if that might have something to do with the failure of free > software as a movement, more than FSF or LibrePlanet (or LiePlanet). > > Actually Danny, the fact that people already sympathetic to corrupt > industries have chosen to betray a movement in favour of said industries > probably has a lot more to do with it-- logically, and historically. But > you could be right I suppose. I mean let's not rule it out altogether. > > > > passionate commentary > > I'll take passionate commentary over lifeless, meaningless corporate > bullshit any day. But to each their own. > > Have fun telling people (like Deb has) that corporate takeovers are not > clubs, but movements! > > > _______________________________________________ > Discussion mailing list > Discussion@lists.fsfellowship.eu > https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/mailman/listinfo/discussion >
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