Re: [lopsa-discuss] Recommendations for a Network Service Monitor?

2009-03-04 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On 2009 Mar 4, at 17:52, Atom Powers wrote: I have a relatively small shop, about 30 servers in three locations, and I need help finding a service monitor that can notify me when something is amis, or about to go badly. Specifically I am looking for a product that can send alerts when a serv

Re: [lopsa-discuss] [SAGE] Looking for examples of policies concerning trusted insiders (aka, sysadmins)

2009-03-12 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On 2009 Mar 12, at 14:33, Jason Foutz wrote: I think you're mixing technical competence and ethics. Every certification I'm aware of is a measure of technical knowledge. I know doctors are expected to follow a code of ethics. I don't believe they're formally tested for comprehensive knowledg

Re: [lopsa-discuss] licensing

2009-03-13 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On Mar 13, 2009, at 13:17 , Richard Chycoski wrote: > Licensing to ensure a minimum level of skill (like drivers' licences - > look how well *that* works! :-) is a public safety issue. Drivers' licensing is a joke; the public has spoken, any warm body must be licensable, and there's hell to pay

Re: [lopsa-discuss] licensing

2009-03-13 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On 2009 Mar 13, at 17:54, Luke S Crawford wrote: da...@lang.hm writes: except when it makes sense to have ssh root logins enabled (so that central management tools can do root privilage required functions on the box for example) I can't come up with a reasonable case for setting PermitRootL

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Professional standards.

2009-04-14 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On Apr 14, 2009, at 13:27 , Michael Tiernan wrote: I have to ask you good folks something. I admit to not being nearly as omniscient as I'd like so I have to ask others for some of my education. I really don't understand the route this conversation has gone down and I'm hoping that I'm not the on

Re: [lopsa-discuss] AOL's whitelisting

2009-05-05 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On May 4, 2009, at 19:21 , seph wrote: > Cat Okita writes: >>> They require that I use *nslookup*, and paste examples. host isn't >>> good >>> enough here. Let's hear it for lazy programming. >> >> What's lazy programming here? They're asking you t

Re: [lopsa-discuss] background tasks in shell scripts

2009-08-14 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On Aug 14, 2009, at 21:08 , da...@lang.hm wrote: is there a way in shell scripts (primarily bash) to background some tasks and then wait for them to complete before doing another command? I've got a nightly log analysis run that has lots of things in the form (greatly simplified for explina

Re: [lopsa-discuss] How to migrate 345GB of mail from one imap server to another

2009-08-19 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On Aug 18, 2009, at 14:37 , Derek J. Balling wrote: What are you using to come up with that 30-days value... the "rough number" I get[1] for 345GB at GigE speeds is less than an hour. Just copying files is likely to be fast. Moving messages via IMAP protocol will be slow. If you can conver

Re: [lopsa-discuss] A sed challenge

2009-11-30 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On Nov 30, 2009, at 21:20 , Tom Limoncelli wrote: This sounds like a job of sed but my sed fu is weak. Not really; sed can be abused into that kind of conditionality, but it's not simple. Redefine the spec so that an existing block is deleted but the new block goes at the end always, and y

Re: [lopsa-discuss] A sed challenge

2009-11-30 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On Nov 30, 2009, at 22:16 , Tom Limoncelli wrote: Ok, do it in awk :-) This could be one-liner-ed if your awk is liberal about where a pattern-action pair can occur (some require it to be at the beginning of a line). function go() { print "# BEGIN project" print "hi" print "# END

Re: [lopsa-discuss] A sed challenge

2009-11-30 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On Nov 30, 2009, at 23:16 , Phil Pennock wrote: See, you're editing a file. I do wonder why people fixate on stream processing tools for editing a file, when there are command-line interfaces available to script file-editing. And no, {sed -i} is still stream-orientated. Agreed, but I took

Re: [lopsa-discuss] A sed challenge

2009-11-30 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On Nov 30, 2009, at 23:29 , Phil Pennock wrote: PS: gratz on getting the new Netnews RFCs out! Wrong Allbery :) -- brandon s. allbery [solaris,freebsd,perl,pugs,haskell] allb...@kf8nh.com system administrator [openafs,heimdal,too many hats] allb...@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineer

Re: [lopsa-discuss] A sed challenge

2009-12-01 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On Dec 1, 2009, at 16:14 , Aleksey Tsalolikhin wrote: On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: $ perl -ni -e 'print unless /^# BEGIN project/../^# END project/' / etc/rc.machine $ cat rc-addition >>/etc/rc.machine Hi, Randal. This is very handy. What is the .. part cal

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Measuring sysadmin performance

2009-12-06 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On Dec 6, 2009, at 10:30 , Tom Limoncelli wrote: I've never been impressed by long surveys. The benchmark for these is that "10% response rate" is considered extremely good. That's depressing. Someone needs to tell this to the faculty committee that just mandated we send out surveys when

Re: [lopsa-discuss] IPv6 and Multicast

2010-04-22 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On Apr 21, 2010, at 06:51 , Tom Limoncelli wrote: Multicast in IPv4 and IPv6 are about equal. On the LAN they were really well. The problem is how to route them on the WAN. The multicast routing protocols are still evolving. It turns out to be more complicated than one would expect. *blink*

Re: [lopsa-discuss] IPv6 and Multicast

2010-04-22 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On Apr 21, 2010, at 13:17 , Edward Ned Harvey wrote: I don't know. I never see any signs that multicast is used anywhere. Why not? Pain in the butt to get working everywhere. That said, back before we decided the RIAA made it too risky, we used to have multicast mp3 streams on campus

Re: [lopsa-discuss] cfengine vs. puppet vs. chef

2010-05-22 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On May 22, 2010, at 11:45 , Yves Dorfsman wrote: Has anybody done, or can point me to a *rational* comparison between those guys, or even one including commercial products? Part of the problem is that the most significant differences are difficult to quantify: for (probably the biggest) e

Re: [lopsa-discuss] cfengine vs. puppet vs. chef

2010-05-22 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On May 22, 2010, at 15:45 , Dana Quinn wrote: This discussion makes me wonder - *why* isn't there a really good commercial product? (and I do believe there isn't a good commercial I'm under the strong impression that commercial offerings are either (a) productized internal tools (b) add-ons

Re: [lopsa-discuss] cfengine vs. puppet vs. chef

2010-05-25 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On May 25, 2010, at 09:04 , Nick Silkey wrote: Maybe Im being obtuse, but isnt ALL cfg mgmt inherently declarative? I know that gets tossed around by the Puppet community as a unique win for it over others in the space. Ideally yes. (I still think Haskell should be a killer language for CM,

Re: [lopsa-discuss] cfengine vs. puppet vs. chef

2010-05-25 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On May 25, 2010, at 09:10 , Nick Silkey wrote: This is a huge consideration, especially if youre a big edu with a decade of dinosaurs. Modern ruby/gems, modern python, etc for Solaris 8, AIX, Tru64 ... kill me now. cf2 was easily built for our rainbow Python 2.5 was one of the easier things t

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Manipulating EXT2 image files

2010-06-03 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 3, 2010, at 15:36 , Adam Moskowitz wrote: > (mke2fs), but here's the catch: I need to be able to do the equivalent > of mkdir, cp, chown, chmod, and chgrp *WITHOUT MOUNTING THE IMAGE > FILE*, > and to be able to do all of this from a script.

Re: [lopsa-discuss] [SAGE] Fwd: Sunfreeware.com Comments Needed Urgently

2010-06-06 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On Jun 6, 2010, at 23:58 , Philip Brown wrote: I'm not sure why exactly you think it deserves continued funding. He You may have decided that he's been superannuated --- I have no opinion on the matter --- but the above is, frankly, insulting, -- brandon s. allbery [solaris,freebsd,perl,pu

Re: [lopsa-discuss] What do you ask when hiring a network admin?

2010-06-15 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On Jun 14, 2010, at 12:18 , Esther Schindler wrote: Howdy, folks -- me again. I haven't posted here in a while because I've been busy as editor in chief of ITExpertVoice.com -- which until now has focused only on Windows 7. Happily the site has now expanded, so I can publish more articles th

Re: [lopsa-discuss] What do you ask when hiring a network admin?

2010-06-15 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On Jun 14, 2010, at 13:18 , David Nolan wrote: other industries where the terminology is well defined. A hospital administrator looking to hire a new podiatrist doesn't have to make sure that the candidates all really are foot doctors... ...but might have to make sure they don't specialize in

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Stupid sed question, or, Is sed even the smartest way to do this?

2010-06-16 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On Jun 16, 2010, at 05:37 , Trey Darley wrote: Say you've got a simple ascii text file, say, 250,000 lines long. Let's say it's a logfile. Suppose that you wanted to access an arbitrary range of lines, say, lines 10,000 - 13,000. One way of doing this is: sed -n 1,13000p foobar.txt Tr

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Verizon: No p2p blocking

2010-06-17 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On Jun 17, 2010, at 09:04 , Edward Ned Harvey wrote: I've said before that I really like FiOS, partially because they don't do any shenanigans with my traffic, the way RCN or Comcast did when I used them. And here's an article supporting that claim. ;-) ...now if only they'd offer residen

Re: [lopsa-discuss] What do you ask when hiring a network admin?

2010-06-24 Thread Brandon S Allbery KF8NH
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/24/10 09:34 , Doug Hughes wrote: > It's more than that. Negative references open you up to lawsuits for > slander or libel (depending if written or spoken). Even if you are > right, you end up in a costly court proceeding to prove it. On the oth

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Some thoughts on Inetleectual Property

2010-07-02 Thread Brandon S Allbery KF8NH
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/2/10 17:05 , John BORIS wrote: > As to the Web site he told them that he was going to give up the web > site work in a month and since he wasn't compensated for the initials > design work he wanted compensation. If he wasn't compensated he was > p

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Some thoughts on Inetleectual Property

2010-07-05 Thread Brandon S Allbery KF8NH
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/5/10 10:44 , Brian Mathis wrote: > - they said they would pay him to do the updates (only payment for updates) This is unclear; was the original "redesign" considered an "update", or not? Certainly in ordinary speech it is often used that way.

Re: [lopsa-discuss] How to improve a junior sysadmin's problem-solving skills

2010-07-15 Thread Brandon S Allbery KF8NH
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/15/10 04:15 , Luke S Crawford wrote: > You need to make it clear that there is no longer a script, and that > their job is now, essentially, to figure things out. +1 When I first got a job involving larger projects (with more severe consequen

Re: [lopsa-discuss] How to improve a junior sysadmin's problem-solving skills

2010-07-15 Thread Brandon S Allbery KF8NH
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 One more comment: I see a number of respondents here despairing because some people don't have the "run and find out" urge. I'd like to point out that the in-built urge to do so is independent of the expertise to do so; the former can't be taught, bu

Re: [lopsa-discuss] How to improve a junior sysadmin'sproblem-solving skills

2010-07-15 Thread Brandon S Allbery KF8NH
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/15/10 12:27 , Derek J. Balling wrote: > I think there's certainly that fear. I mean, as I was a junior, I had a > mentor who was very understanding about the "junior guy making mistakes"[1], > but I've witnessed less understanding sysadmins bera

Re: [lopsa-discuss] off-topic? What animal is a system administrator?

2010-08-24 Thread Brandon S Allbery KF8NH
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/24/10 16:50 , Tom Perrine wrote: > What animal most exemplifies the System Administrator personality "type"? > > MIT uses the Beaver for Engineers, Lawyers are often referred to as sharks, > etc. > > If you had to create a sysadmin logo (over a

Re: [lopsa-discuss] off-topic? What animal is a system administrator?

2010-09-01 Thread Brandon S Allbery KF8NH
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/31/2010 11:36 PM, Jeff Falgout wrote: > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Tom Perrine > wrote: >> If you had to create a sysadmin logo (over and above the a.s.r >> Etherkiller), what animal would you put on it? > > Goat, as in Scape Goat ye

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Solaris to Linux administration cross-training

2010-10-07 Thread Brandon S Allbery KF8NH
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/6/10 11:02 , Robert Brockway wrote: > I switch between Linux & Solaris often. To me they feel like I'm speaking > different dialects of the same language. If I forget something in one > dialect $SEARCHENGINE will deliver the answer in seconds