[lopsa-discuss] School spies on children at home with webcams

2010-02-18 Thread Benjamin Krueger
This story came out yesterday. A public school utilized webcams in laptops to spy on children and their families both at school and at home. The practice came to light after the Principal reprimanded a student for behavior at home, using a picture from a webcam as evidence. http://www.boing

Re: [lopsa-discuss] School spies on children at home with webcams

2010-02-18 Thread Luke S Crawford
Benjamin Krueger writes: > I have no particular question for the list, other than this. How did > we get to a place where sysadmins will implement such blatantly > illegal and unethical systems? What can we do to discourage this kind > of behavior in the IT field? On one hand, I agree with you,

Re: [lopsa-discuss] School spies on children at home with webcams

2010-02-18 Thread Brian Mathis
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Benjamin Krueger wrote: > This story came out yesterday. A public school utilized webcams in laptops > to spy on children and their families both at school and at home. The > practice came to light after the Principal reprimanded a student for > behavior at home,

Re: [lopsa-discuss] School spies on children at home with webcams

2010-02-18 Thread Robert Hajime Lanning
Brian Mathis wrote: > As much as I like Cory Doctorow, you should instead read the Ars > Technica version > (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/02/school-under-fire-for-spying-on-kid-via-webcam-at-home.ars) > > where they actually tried to do a little bit of journalism. They point >

Re: [lopsa-discuss] School spies on children at home with webcams

2010-02-18 Thread John BORIS
Luke, As a former US Government Employee I resent the comment that I was hired because I could be briw beat into doing what my boss ordered even if it was against the law. All Government workers are not mindless drones that mimic the work of the information workers in Orwell's 1984. Granted the pe

Re: [lopsa-discuss] School spies on children at home with webcams

2010-02-18 Thread Dan Foster
Hot Diggety! Benjamin Krueger was rumored to have written: > This story came out yesterday. A public school utilized webcams in > laptops to spy on children and their families both at school and at > home. The practice came to light after the Principal reprimanded a > student for behavior at home,

Re: [lopsa-discuss] School spies on children at home with webcams

2010-02-18 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> This story came out yesterday. A public school utilized webcams in > laptops to spy on children and their families both at school and at > home. The practice came to light after the Principal reprimanded a > student for behavior at home, using a picture from a webcam as > evidence. Here is my on

Re: [lopsa-discuss] School spies on children at home with webcams

2010-02-18 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> This story came out yesterday. A public school utilized webcams in > laptops to spy on children and their families both at school and at > home. The practice came to light after the Principal reprimanded a > student for behavior at home, using a picture from a webcam as > evidence. Heheh. FWIW,

Re: [lopsa-discuss] School spies on children at home with webcams

2010-02-18 Thread Brad Knowles
On Feb 18, 2010, at 3:58 PM, John BORIS wrote: > As for this I worry about Orwell's predictions coming to fruition as > Technology advances. It is very easy now to monitor almost everything. > If you have EZ-pass or some other electronic toll device you can easily > be cited for speeding on a Tur

Re: [lopsa-discuss] School spies on children at home with webcams

2010-02-18 Thread Dave Close
John BORIS wrote: >If you have EZ-pass or some other electronic toll device you can easily >be cited for speeding on a Turnpike as your are marked on entry and exit >with a time stamp. A short calculation can get your speed and bingo you >get mailed a ticket for speeding. That scenario hardly ne

Re: [lopsa-discuss] School spies on children at home with webcams

2010-02-18 Thread Tracy Reed
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 10:06:24PM -0800, Dave Close spake thusly: > That scenario hardly needs advanced technology. I recall that 40 years > ago both Pennsylvania and Oklahoma used a turnpike system where you > were given a ticket at the on-ramp and then paid at your offramp based > on the combina

Re: [lopsa-discuss] School spies on children at home with webcams

2010-02-18 Thread Yves Dorfsman
Edward Ned Harvey wrote: > > Here is my one point of skepticism: How can "a school" spy on you? A > school is made of brick and stuff. Whenever somebody does something > unethical in a school, or Microsoft, or Apple, or Google, or the government, > people quickly say "Microsoft stole software"

Re: [lopsa-discuss] School spies on children at home with webcams

2010-02-18 Thread unix_fan
- Original Message > From: Tracy Reed > To: discuss@lopsa.org > Sent: Thu, February 18, 2010 10:20:05 PM > Subject: Re: [lopsa-discuss] School spies on children at home with webcams > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 10:06:24PM -0800, Dave Close spake thusly: > > That scenario hardly needs